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Someone made a claim that WP:RAJ only applies to British authors like Lepel Henry Griffin, Max Arthur Macauliffe etc. I'm pretty sure I've heard Indian authors like Jadunath Sarkar and Narendra Sinha also come under the term Raj era source-[1] though. Does WP:RAJ apply to everything pertaining to Indian topics, if it was written before 1947? Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 22:00, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is kind of a complicated question. WP:RAJ applies mainly to the many British administrators who wrote "histories" and "caste biographies" based on their own personal experiences rather than using standard methods of historiography. Unfortunately, many Indian writers, both Raj era as well as post-Raj ones, writing on various caste and religion topics end up using Raj era sources and base their work on those sources. In short, I would suggest discounting most Raj era texts regardless of who wrote them and be careful about using obscure or popular texts post-Raj. Sticking to modern academic writers is probably the safest. Context, to quote TB below, matters. RegentsPark (comment) 18:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This comment made it a lot clearer for me, thanks Regents Park and TrangaBellam. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 23:33, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Context matters. Sarkar's methods might have fallen out of favor but he was a meticulous scholar and is still relied upon by other scholars. TrangaBellam (talk) 05:40, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see; would Autar Singh Sandhu, author of this book published in 1935-[2] be allowed as a reliable source on Wikipedia? Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 08:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @RegentsParkseems like you have solved my 70% doubt but some small ambiguities are there I'll get back to you. Rajeshfadnavis (talk) 18:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just after you blocked Joshi punekar's sock, they have come up with a new user account Rajeshfadnavis. Would request you to block as per WP:DUCK! Thanks & Regards. Ekdalian (talk) 16:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This user is back to edit warring immediately after the block expired block expired. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:36, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Second block. RegentsPark (comment) 21:10, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @RegentsPark, If the article is clearly violating NPOV rule of wiki what can be done ? Rajeshfadnavis (talk) 21:24, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Best is to explain the reasons why it violates WP:NPOV on the talk page. Then you can either wait for consensus or just boldly make your changes. If you make the changes and are reverted, then try to build consensus or, if that doesn't happen, use dispute resolution. RegentsPark (comment) 21:29, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RegentsParkGot it,so finally we have dispute resolution system.Say for example recently I was in discussion in 2 caste pages Daivadnya and gaud saraswat brahmin.Atleast in the first page I am able to add the content based on talk but second is pathetic even after having discussion for single edit I must rely on someone but they never help.Kindly try reducing the protection of this page (gaud saraswat brahmin) from extended editor to our level.If any sock or issue comes definitely we can increase the protection.Kindly look into it as I can feel some editors are not even following NPOV.Thanks Rajeshfadnavis (talk) 05:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RegentsParkOne more thing,one editor is there(not taking his name to respect his dignity) who had maintain his POV for years I have challenged it for NPOV purpose .Now instead of replying wherever he goes calls me sock(not even suspected !).Isn't this void of wiki rule , isn't this demotivating nature/destructive nature?.Until now I had neglected him and didn't took it personally as per wiki article.Just guide me as this is one kind of mental harassment!,how to deal with this kind of people? Rajeshfadnavis (talk) 05:53, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Hey Rajeshfadnavis, please show the diffs, and don't worry; I am going to warn them! Further action may also be taken! Ekdalian (talk) 12:45, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RegentsPark's page is lucky to me .I found many solutions here anyhow the wiki void behavior will be addressed if it is continued by the concerned editor. Rajeshfadnavis (talk) 14:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, first of all I'm new to editing Wikipedia so if that's not how wiki users contact each other than I'm sorry. I noticed that you (ReagentsPark) removed my edit from Battle of Panipat regarding advice given by Suraj Mal to Maratha. Reason mentioned for removal of edit was that source is unreliable. So if I will provide a source already used in the wiki article then will you republish the edit? Amitdabas123 (talk) 18:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @ReagentsParks Amitdabas123 (talk) 18:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Amitdabas123: This is perfectly appropriate and thanks for checking in with me. FYI, you don't need to ping someone when you're writing on their own talk pages because the system will automatically post a notification. The problems with the text you added are that (1) you're using a source that is not reliable. Generally, for historical events, you are better off using recent academic sources rather than older ones and, in most cases, sources pre-1947 are not considered reliable, additionally (2) the text you added was not written in an encyclopedic style. Think summary style, sticking to plain and clear sentences, as the best approach. If you have material that is not already covered in the article, you should summarize it in your own words, be direct, and cite it to recent academic sources. RegentsPark (comment) 18:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replying. As I said earlier can I use Kaushik Roy which has been used 5 times already as citation in the said article? You can check Suraj Mal's advice in Kaushik Roy's book which has already been used 5 times in the article. Here's the link https://books.google.co.in/books?id=jpXijlqeRpIC&lpg=PA85&pg=PA82#v=onepage&q=Suraj%20Mal%20&f=false

Also just now I noticed in the reference section of the article that "History of Jats" has been used as citation before I used it again and it was removed.

So can you please further advice me if I can use both already existing sources in the article to write the said Sub section of Suraj Mal's advice to Maratha commander-in-chief? Amitdabas123 (talk) 19:05, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just don't use pre-1947 sources if possible - whether they are already in the article or not. And paraphrase in a summary style. And include only information that is appropriate (i.e., don't just add information because it exists). If you need specific help about what is appropriate or not, you can post a message at WP:IN. RegentsPark (comment) 20:31, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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