Why Christian metalcore was replaced?[edit]

How many times I have to say this?, you are confusing a band's faith with a music genre. There's not even an article for Christian metalcore, it will redirect you to metalcore.

Here are some discussion that you might want to read after reverting any edits.

• Talk:As_I_Lay_Dying_(band)
• Talk:As_I_Lay_Dying_(band)/Archive_1
• Talk:Norma_Jean_(band)#Genre

Do not ask why it was replaced, don't waste your time, it is a mayor consensus. Thank you --Kmaster (talk) 21:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi... I saw in this edit you added some refs to support the "most influential" peacock term... thanks! But I looked at the refs and didn't think that they were very sound... for one thing, they seemed to be two blogs and some user comments at Amazon, and for another, I couldn't find the actual terms. Praise, yes but not the "is considered as one of most influential records " phrasing. Do you think if you have time and interest you could find a reputable critic site and use something from there? I ran into this problem on the Beatles articles I worked on... ++Lar: t/c 04:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I'll try find more reliable sources. It's not difficult, because it's Shai Hulud ;-)--Kmaster (talk) 05:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. ++Lar: t/c 20:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey I was wondering if you could clarify some things for me, could you possibly list all of the Shai Hulud albums and who did vocals on them? It would be much appreciated. DH SH BH (talk) 02:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)DH_SH_BH[reply]

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Thanks for moving the discussion, I originally started it on my talk page to reduce "bouncing" from article to article, but it turned into a heated discussion so now it's best on the article talk page. Thanks again. — ^FatalError 18:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know, seems a little ironic doesn't it. Landon1980 (talk) 01:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I hate that User:IronCrow is mad enough to leave over this, he did make some good contributions while he was here. It's a shame he is unwilling to work with other editors, and becomes so angry over nothing really. You are right though, if he can't act better than that we are better off without him. You can't let your personal beliefs get in the way of editing, and until he can keep it under control he should stay retired. He does this quite often, I'd say he'll be back after he cools off a bit. We can't let someone pouting stop us from bettering the encyclopedia, I think we did the right thing. Thanks for alerting me to the situation, Cheers. Landon1980 (talk) 14:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your edit on the You're Ever So Inviting page. I couldn't agree more. ŁittleÄlien¹⁸² (_talk\^contribs) 21:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, hope you're doing well. I invite you to participate in a Christian music debate that I've started. I did it to keep the whole thing in one place, because it's starting to span across several band articles. Thanks. — ^FatalError 21:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kmaster, you recently reverted an act of vandalism on the New Found Glory article. However, when you did so you also reverted my edit as well, which had included "Emo" to the band's list of genres along with several references to back up this claim. You not only removed the term "Emo" from the article but also all of my references. I thought this might have been an accident, but when another user restored some of my information you reverted it again simply stating "not emo". Can you tell me why you reverted my edit?

Aurum ore (talk) 02:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, don't worry about it. I did add back the information, but since it seems to be pretty controversial I'm also trying to find references that they're "not emo" so that we can include a small section about the debate surrounding their genre (since there seems to be a lot of argument about what sub-genre(s) they really belong to).

Aurum ore (talk) 22:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, Aurum ore tried the same trick of using a minimal number of musical reviews to justify his "emo" tag over at the Simple Plan article. We fended him off, arguing that a review is really an opinion piece and not an RS under WP:RS and that the number (2 or 3) of reviews he posited describing SP as emo paled before the many news articles we were able to pull up describing SP as pop punk. You might want to review WP:UNDUE and see if his "emo" tag is a tiny minority position with no prominent adherants, and if it is, you can delete it regardless of whether his music reviews are RSs or not.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can see that as a fan of both punk and metal, you would want to somehow equate the most influential metal scene of the 80's as having been somehow influenced by punk, but read any interviews with the actual bands and you will see that they were reacting against the musical ineptitude of punk, rather than being influenced by its speed. Punk bands were not the first bands to play fast, and I'm tired of that stupid argument. Black Sabbath and Judas Priest (as well as many other 70's metal bands) released plenty of proto-speed metal songs years before punk broke into the mainstream. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.246.194 (talk) 23:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

would it not be better to re-write genre section to include 'has more in common wih industrial music, with nu metal riffs and samples' rather than just nu-metal as it seems to imply the album is a straight up nu-metal release? Winter.skin (talk) 05:10, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

gave it a shot, tell me what you think :) Winter.skin (talk) 04:56, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

alright thanks, looks like they were doing alot of other edits to pages i had to revert as well. Winter.skin (talk) 07:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi
Did you intentionally readd the DiscussMusic.net-review in this edit? It seems to be a very non notable review to me.
Cheers, Amalthea^Talk 19:01, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Me again. :)
I don't quite understand this change, even after reading Talk:Shogun (album)#Genre. If you say that allmusic often mislables album genres as "alternative metal", replacing sourced and verifiable genres with unsourced, fact-tagged ones really is "not the way Wikipedia works".
But also note that I know neither band nor album, so you might be completely right.
Cheers, Amalthea^Talk 23:21, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, love the userbox! Especially the word "real"—I was into 80s hardcore (that's the real stuff), and now there's this "metalcore" genre that seems to have NOTHING to do with hardcore, as in hardcore PUNK! As far as I can see, metalcore is pretty much completely a kind of metal. I'm not a very skilled user of WP mechanics—I don't know how to create templates—but if you check my user page, you'll see I've created a satirical version of the metalcore userbox. Best wishes, AdRock (talk) 03:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I figured out how to create it as a page, if you want to replace all that code: {{User:AdRock/Metalcore}} —AdRock (talk) 04:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Advice: AN3 is for violations of 3RR, not slow revert wars. Generic edit warring isn't suitable for that page, unless its close. Yours isn't. So what can you do? Try and talk to the other side, on the article talk or on their talk page. Try WP:DR. Maybe get them blocked, but you'll need a good reason William M. Connolley (talk) 23:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He doesn't seem to know how to stop. He seems to be constantly reverting to fit his personal satisfaction instead of ours. This person is trying to avoid 3RR as well by reverting after every 24 hours or so. He also has different IP identities although it's pretty much obvious it's that person (especially with his odd and no explanation reverts of Trap Them, Fuck the Facts, and Siege). How the heck can we stop this war when this user knows how to revert at the "safe" moments? Talk to me back at my discussion. Thanks! The Phantomnaut (talk) 06:57, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I made a edit which can be agreeable for both sides. The Phantomnaut (talk) 06:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently not, still didn't work. Well this is a challenge. But yeah, a semi protect would be good. The Phantomnaut (talk) 06:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Read the talk page for All That Remains, as I already left an explanation toward this ordeal before you changed it back, and my edits are never opinions, thanks. • GunMetal Angel 04:03, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It appears some editors who didn't review the talk page (or ignored it) are back at removing "metalcore" from the band's page again...In the past, I know you assisted in reverting the article back to its correct version...just a heads up. Thanks,--Danteferno (talk) 02:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Who Keeps Taking HOGAN'S HEROES Off The List. and well take it from there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.165.107 (talk) 17:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Kmaster, MxPx is on my watchlist and I noticed a recent revert war with you and a couple of anons regarding MxPx genre. I had been involved in this debate last year, and added my feelings and a citation in an attempt to stop any more reverts today, as well as started a topic on the discussion page to try to inject some sanity into the debate--and at least allow people who are not hiding behind an IP address to discuss the matter. I'm not hell bent on making a point here, but reading through your talk page here you definitely seem to be knowledgable on this topic, and we seem to disagree. If you would, I would welcome your input on the MxPx talk page to discuss further, and--as is so rare on Wiki these days--I promise to be civil and have a real discussion. This "war" has been raging back and forth for 18 months now, and I'd like to find a consensus. NiftySwifty (talk) 04:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Was reverted. The policy you cited contradicted your edit. "The form since 1996 should be used in favor of 1996–present in article text." TheWeakWilled (T * G) 20:28, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah never saw that before. I saw you reverted my edit. Thanks, might come in handy in the future. TheWeakWilled (T * G) 01:05, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The article you wrote me about, Overcast (band), was nominated for Speedy Deletion because there was little to no information in it that indicated the importance or notability of the band. The entire content of the article:

Overcast is an american metalcore band. Members: Brian Fair-Vocals Mike D' Antonio-Bass Pete Cortese-Guitar Scoot McCooe-Guitar Jay Fitzgerald-Drums They have existed from 1991-1998 and got back together later to make the album Reborn To Kill Again

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Hello my names's Mountain4567, I had a question. You used to be an admin for Monster Truck Madness Wiki correct? Mountain4567 (talk · contribs) 71.178.26.30 (talk) 02:32, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Yes I was, then I moved everything to MTMG, but they had server problems and lost most of the work. Kmaster (talk) 16:47, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So that wiki was closed and moved to another wiki, the wiki that I'm an admin of: https://racingmadness.fandom.com/wiki/Army_Armstrong. I was wondering if you were able to contribute to here by sharing your expertise on the MTM series? And another thing, since you have a profile account on here: https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Kmaster. Do you think we can continue this discussion on here? Mountain4567 (talk · contribs) 71.178.26.30 (talk) 17:23, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm just creating a new thread to continue our previous discussion. Do you think you would be able to edit for the Monster Truck Madness series on behalf of the The Racing Madness Wiki? Mountain4567 (talk · contribs) 71.178.26.30 (talk) 21:47, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]