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Question from Mahammed parvez (17:44, 26 March 2024)[edit]

Hello I want create an article and publish it on internet.Iam new to Wikipedia joined recently what should I do --Mahammed parvez (talk) 17:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mahammed parvez, and welcome to Wikipedia! What topic do you wish to create an article about? HouseBlaster (he/him) 18:54, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I Want to create an article of a person my grandfather
I have all the proper references required.He's name is already mentioned in Wikipedia and now I want to create an article and publish live in Wikipedia Mahammed parvez (talk) 08:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mahammed parvez: it is strongly discouraged that you do this, per our policy on conflicts of interest. If you want to proceed, do you have two or three reliable sources (we have a not exhaustive list of sources Wikipedia considers reliable) which cover your grandfather in detail (this means multiple paragraphs) and are independent of your grandfather? By "independent", I mean not solicited by friends/family members. HouseBlaster (he/him) 14:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Dra FB (20:25, 28 March 2024)[edit]

Hi, I created a new page in Sandbox, and I'm not sure what the next step is in order to publish this page. I'd appreciate any help you caqn offer. Many thanks! --Dra FB (talk) 20:25, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dra FB: the first step is ensuring the topic is wiki-notable. Do you have three reliable sources (you can see a list of sources Wikipedia considers reliable here) which provide significant coverage and are independent of the subject (that is, neither created by the subject nor at the behest of the subject)? HouseBlaster (he/him) 20:43, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your feedback! I thought I checked the guidelines to ensure that the topic is wiki-notable, while writing the article. I will double check again. However, if the topic does fulfill the minimum requirements, what else could be the problem? Dra FB (talk) 16:12, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have two or three such sources? I don't like to proceed before ensuring the topic is wiki-notable, because no amount of editing can "fix" a lack of notability. I don't want to waste our time by giving you a list of things to fix just for the article to get deleted. HouseBlaster (he/him) 17:30, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Hemchandra Jain (18:09, 30 March 2024)[edit]

Hello mentor! I just created a draft article for a historical personality that finds very little mention anywhere, but those mentions suggest he did exist and he is an important figure in the history of Jainism (religion). In fact, he also finds mentions in Paul Dundas's book The Jains. How do I make sure that the article hits mainspace and not just stays in draft namespace? --Hemchandra Jain (talk) 18:09, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hemchandra Jain! To be eligible for an article on Wikipedia, a subject must be considered wiki-notable. To be considered notable, he must have received significant coverage (this means more than "mentions": we need multiple in-depth paragraphs about the subject) in reliable sources (we have a list of sources which are frequently discussed alongside how reliable Wikipedia considers them to be) which are independent of the subject (this means nothing written at the behest of the subject). Do you have two or three such sources? HouseBlaster (he/him) 18:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They are old scriptural mentions. Sivabhuti finds mentions in Avashyak Bhashya (a 5th century text) and in Paul Dundas's book The Jains and in a few other books as well, so multiple books mention him and the theory. Although less is known about him, but a popular theory as to what caused schism in Jainism considers him a central character and an article on him would make sense for researchers looking for information on him. Hemchandra Jain (talk) 19:51, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hemchandra Jain, given that the books only mention him, it does not appear that Sivabhuti is wiki-notable. Unfortunately, this means that Sivabhuti is not eligible for an article on Wikipedia, and no amount of editing can fix that. Best, HouseBlaster (he/him) 20:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
However, the books have an account of events from is life and several old research considers him instrumental in understanding the current state of affairs in Jainism. Is it still not eligible to be an article? Hemchandra Jain (talk) 20:17, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hemchandra Jain, it depends on the nature of the books. Are they affiliated with Jainism? If so, they are unlikely to be considered independent and thus are not useful for determining notability. I will note that "important" is not synonymous with "notable". Notability requires significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject (this is considered Wikipedia's "golden rule"). "Important" subjects often receive such coverage, but it is the coverage they receive which makes them notable—not their "importance". HouseBlaster (he/him) 20:28, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All the books are scholarly research on Jainism and its historicity. They are not published by Jains, per say, but Indian and international scholar researching Jainism and other Indic religions. Several books are not focused on Jainism, but are accounts of different perspectives on how sects and religions originated. Some are also reports of the Archaeological Survey of India. Hemchandra Jain (talk) 20:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If that is the case, the subject is likely to be considered notable. To minimize the chance of a deletion discussion, make sure that such sources are contained in the article (they don't have to be, because notability is assessed by the existence of sources, but the first place people look to check for notability are the sources in the article). Let me know if you have any other questions, HouseBlaster (he/him) 20:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Understood! I am sorry I am new to Wikipedia so I am just getting used to it. I have written an article with all credible sources (scholarly research or works of historians) about the single account of his life. I don't know if there is a review system on Wikipedia, but could you please review it, if it is not a problem for you, just so I wil know what to do and what not to do in future? :) Hemchandra Jain (talk) 20:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry! There is a review process (see this page for an introduction to "new page patrol"), but I generally try to avoid officially reviewing articles written by my mentees (to avoid the potential for a conflict of interest), but I am happy to take an unofficial look at the page. Sivabhuti appears to look fairly good, and I have made some minor improvements. One thing that sticks out to me is our guideline on references and punctuation: citations go after punctuation (like this,[1] this;[2] or this.[3] Not like this[1], this[2]; or this[3].). HouseBlaster (he/him) 21:07, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Understood it completely. I will take care of how punctuations and citations work. It was new for me. I will keep adding credible information as I find any, but first get a review from someone. I understand the reasons why you may not review my articles. Thank you so much for the guidance! Hemchandra Jain (talk) 22:07, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of course! Let me know if you have any additional questions. HouseBlaster (he/him) 23:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your remarks regarding Gibraltar[edit]

You are reminded that the Gibraltarian category in question became a subcategory of the corresponding UK one only after the Cfm nomination was made. Please make sure your closing remarks are valid before they are put to the record. 83.229.61.201 (talk) 15:24, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is already in the UK category tree: Category:19th-century Anglican church buildings in Gibraltar is already in the tree (just not a direct subcategory) of Category:Churches in the United Kingdom. HouseBlaster (he/him) 15:56, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's by way of Category:Churches in British Overseas Territories which is like a connector category between that for UK and those for the overseas territories. What you said was an oversimplified version of the picture. 83.229.61.201 (talk) 17:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I certainly could have been more clear, but I don't think that makes my remark not valid. HouseBlaster (he/him) 17:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. With all respect it'd simply be wrong to label a church in Gibraltar to be in the United Kingdom; and the way the article is structured remotely under a greatgreatgrandparent UK category makes it hardly an entirely valid argument to put the article direct into an in the United Kingdom category. The same would apply for churches in the Falklands. 83.229.61.201 (talk) 18:06, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You may be amused to learn that the nominator had avoided the UK category when they enforced the upmerges re. the Falklands. 83.229.61.201 (talk) 18:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, I added the category within 15 minutes of the nomination. Also the IP is most likely Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Hong Kong geography warrior. Mason (talk) 19:30, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also thanks IP for reminding me that I forgot a merge target. [1] Mason (talk) 21:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024[edit]

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Indian Paintbrush move[edit]

The result was listed as moved per here but it never was. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 15:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dissident93: it is listed at WT:CFDW, and will be processed eventually. HouseBlaster (he/him) 15:44, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. I wasn't aware they needed to be processed unlike an article. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 16:00, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from TheREALflipflopflimflam (17:43, 4 April 2024)[edit]

Hi. Apparently you are my 'mentor'.

At the bottom of https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Riordan_array, there is an abrupt mention of recent book "Very recently there appeared the book[7] which should be a valuable source for further information."

What is policy? Delete it for advertisement? Or perhaps there is a more appropriate place for it (like the 'See also' or 'External links' pages*)?

  • Side note: I am not really sure what precise roles things like 'See also' & 'External links' play. What criteria suggest that some information is fit for one of these? --TheREALflipflopflimflam (talk) 17:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi TheREALflipflopflimflam, and welcome to Wikipedia! You are absolutely correct that this is too promotional and should be taken out. I think moving the book to a "Further reading" section is a good compromise. Per our Manual of Style, this should be its own section below the references. Would you like to try doing it yourself? Don't worry about breaking anything: every revision of Wikipedia is saved in the page's history and it is very easy to undo changes.

    We do have guidelines about what should be in an external links section. At Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout § Standard appendices and footers, you can read about the various inclusion criteria for the "end matter", including "See also", "Further reading", and "External links" sections. Let me know if you have any additional questions, and again: Welcome! HouseBlaster (he/him) 19:30, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Shah Of Nowhere (01:28, 7 April 2024)[edit]

Hello --Shah Of Nowhere talk! 01:28, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Shah Of Nowhere (01:29, 7 April 2024)[edit]

How to write war related articles? --Shah Of Nowhere talk! 01:29, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Shah Of Nowhere (01:31, 7 April 2024)[edit]

How to install twinkle, I tried but not find it in setting gadget. --Shah Of Nowhere talk! 01:31, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Shah Of Nowhere, and welcome to Wikipedia! To edit war-related articles, check out the lists at WikiProject Military History. If you want specific suggestions, check out the instructions at User:SuggestBot/Requests to get SuggestBot to send you a list of suggested articles. To install Twinkle, you must be autoconfirmed, which will happen automatically after your account is four days old (you also need at least ten edits total, but you have already done that). Let me know if you have any additional questions, 01:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Desi balak (16:34, 7 April 2024)[edit]

हेलो सर नया विकिपीडिया केसे बनाया जा सकता हे? --Desi balak (talk) 16:34, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Desi balak, नया विकिपीडिया से अगर आपका मतलब एक नई विकी बनना जो बिलकुल इस विकिपीडिया की तरह काम करती हो तो आप अपनी वेबसाइट में मीडियाविकी सॉफ्टवेयर स्थापित कर सकते हैं, इससे आप विकिपीडिया की तरह ही अपनी खुद की एक विकी बना सकते हैं। अगर आपको इस विषय में अधिक जानकारी चाहिए तो आप मेरे वार्ता पृष्ठ पर सन्देश छोड़ सकते हैं। – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:44, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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