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[edit]I responded to your comments. Would be good to get additional input from you in light of the updates. Beatmik (talk) 04:08, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Incorporating the DoD Guantanamo names
[edit]I saw that you wrote that the DoD names hadn't been posted to our article. I think we have to do this with caution, because the DoD list is marred by many errors.
I will put a more detailed note on the talk page.
Cheers! -- Geo Swan 19:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Someone asked on IRC; the verbose biography as posted earlier today had some personal information which was probably a bit more than intended (family details, etc) so I nuked the dubious revisions for them. Nothing too exciting, I'm afraid, pretty routine stuff... Shimgray | talk | 22:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- I was around when these revisions were still online - I don't remember seeing anything in them that is not in the current version....??? Chrisahn 22:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Pretty minor stuff by such standards, as I recall - personal names? - but a justifiable worry. No large chunks of text, though. Because of the way deletion works, I can't compare diffs to find out. But the chap in question was very worried, he seemed to have been talking to the other editor in question, and it didn't seem like too much of a big deal...
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[edit]Good idea pasting it over, thanks! --Jonovision (talk) 19:58, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
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- You are right. Sorry.Chrisahn (talk) 21:46, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
I wish to thank you for you recent comment at the AFD, and agree that is sad that some folks believe in some of the most ludicrous concepts imaginable. But folks do have the right to believe in nonsense... and as long as the article does not promote the film's content as science or economic fact, and continues to state that it is simply a veiwpoint created by an animator, we will be okay. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 01:19, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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I'm frequently at Sankt Oberholz café in Berlin, whose ISP seems to be blocked. That's cool as far as I am concerned, but I'd still be able to edit when I'm logged in. I understand that I have to ask for IP block exemption. Could you please exclude me from this IP block? Thanks! P.S.: Here's the start of the message I'm seeing: Editing from 80.237.128.0/17 has been blocked (disabled) by DeltaQuad ... ˜˜˜˜
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We can't do it this way. You should either find another place to log on, or wait for the block to expire, and go request it at WP:IPBE. — Daniel Case (talk) 16:45, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for the quick response, Daniel. I can't edit your talk page, so I hope you will see this.
I'd like go request it at WP:IPBE, but WP:IPBE#CONDITIONS points me to WP:APPEAL, which says the preferred way to appeal a block is to use the {{unblock}} template, but you can also contact the blocking administrator via email to request unblocking or alternatively submit a request to the Unblock Ticket Request System. Do I have to go through UTRS?
P.S. as for find another place to log on - of course there are other places, but I often work at this place. It would be sad if I couldn't edit WP for hours on end. wait for the block to expire - it expires in 2015... :-( Chrisahn (talk) 17:06, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
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I'd like to request unblock again. See above. The reason given by Daniel Case - "We can't do it this way" - is extremely short. Did I do anything wrong? I'm an editor with good standing, and I'd like to be able edit Wikipedia even if others at the place where I work are Wikipedia vandals. :-) Chrisahn (talk) 19:07, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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- None of the passage you selected applies. what DOES apply is further down (keep reading): "Some examples of appropriately editing others' comments: It is still common to simply delete gibberish, rants about the article subject (as opposed to its treatment in the article) and test edits, as well as harmful or prohibited material as described above." the portion removed "...or is Wiki just an ovary for Republicans and racist ideology??" doesn't even make sense, nor does it contribute to the improvement of the article. It's part gibberish (not making sense) and part rant. In short, it is completely unhelpful and removing it isn't out of line. Why do you feel it needs included? Niteshift36 (talk) 16:36, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that the words aren't very civil or helpful, but I wouldn't call them gibberish. It's fairly easy to see that the writer probably meant "outlet" instead of "ovary". A few lines further down, there's this sentence: "-5000 miles from home on a public computer not logged on my name." Just as nonsensical. Should we delete it? I think not. Chrisahn (talk) 18:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- And I think so. His poorly worded, POV response to a comment made 4 years ago doesn't help at all. That comment should have been archived long ago except that nobody has set up an archive yet. The sentence provides no value whatsoever and solely expresses his political POV. Niteshift36 (talk) 19:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- I saw this exchange on the recent changes page. Considering how old this comment is, and that it is not a personal attack, it could have been left alone. Really, the best thing to do is to create an archive, add time-date stamps to the unsigned comments, and archive all these old discussions. Erik (talk | contribs) 19:29, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- @Niteshift36: We have a different understanding of WP:TPO then. I again reverted the deletion initially made by an IP. This discussion is already about 50 times longer than the sentence in question, and I hope we can just leave it at that. Chrisahn (talk) 19:33, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- Apparently we do have a different understanding. And if you can give me even the slightest value for that comment, I'll leave it alone. But "because it's there" doesn't cut it. I think I set up the archive correctly. (it's been a while) The bots should sweep it all up soon. Niteshift36 (talk) 19:54, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- So your policy is "if a comment doesn't have value, I am free to delete it". Is that correct? Chrisahn (talk) 20:08, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- And I think so. His poorly worded, POV response to a comment made 4 years ago doesn't help at all. That comment should have been archived long ago except that nobody has set up an archive yet. The sentence provides no value whatsoever and solely expresses his political POV. Niteshift36 (talk) 19:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that the words aren't very civil or helpful, but I wouldn't call them gibberish. It's fairly easy to see that the writer probably meant "outlet" instead of "ovary". A few lines further down, there's this sentence: "-5000 miles from home on a public computer not logged on my name." Just as nonsensical. Should we delete it? I think not. Chrisahn (talk) 18:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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Sorry, you can't use A3 on a properly constructed list. The purpose of a list is to contain links to articles, and that is what this does. One part of A3 is for articles that only contain links that are on the net - that is often a form of advertising or promotion. Lists of articles are a part of the indexing system on Wikipedia, and while some can be regarded as 'listcruft' (when they are lists for the sake of making lists, this one does bring together a load of articles with common factors. Peridon (talk) 10:36, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- A3 applies to an article that "consists only of external links". There is no text, 27 external links, 11 links to other Wikipedia articles. While that's not "only" external links, it's over 70%. Chrisahn (talk) 11:04, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- My apologies. I was right that it shouldn't be deleted, though. Thanks for sorting it out and removing the stuff that didn't belong. Peridon (talk) 11:16, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
This is not a good list. It should be organized by location at least. Directing the user to a (definitely incomplete) list of ALL group rapes (in alphabetical order?) is not nearly as relevant as how it was before, where it showed all of the ones in the UK. This should be reverted or at least sorted by location. Or perhaps a separate list for group rapes in Britain (and it's very likely that that list will grow). Patric.m (talk) 10:03, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia. Sure, go ahead and group the list by country. Be bold. Or maybe create new pages List of sexual abuses perpetrated by groups in the UK, List of sexual abuses perpetrated by groups in the US, List of sexual abuses perpetrated by groups in Europe etc. Chrisahn (talk) 11:19, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Also, you should probably discuss this at Talk:List of sexual abuses perpetrated by groups where others can find it. User talk pages are meant for messages concerning a user, not an article. Chrisahn (talk) 11:25, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Good point, cheers. Patric.m (talk) 09:54, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]I'm not a native speaker of English about that "10 GW of energy". Also I can read "3 million volts per meter", that's right, but still no info about amperes.--Carnby (talk) 07:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Carnby! Thanks for your message.
- The problem with "10 GW of energy" is not related to language, but to physics. Watt is a unit of power, not of energy. Saying "10 GW of energy" is like saying "10 km/h of distance".
- I agree that not all the info you added is already in the article, but the source you gave is very likely a self-published source and thus not a reliable source and not allowed. Sorry. If you find a better source (maybe something like Scientific American?), we could add the data to the article. It should probably be added to the existing data about amperes etc., which already has some info about amperes, but not about volts.
- (Just for the record - we're talking about this edit.) Chrisahn (talk) 10:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Deborah Bone?? What makes you think an article that has existed for years suddenly needs to be deleted? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:01, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- I've declined the speedy deletion; there are at least two credible claims to importance. Remember that this is a much lower bar than notability. Fences&Windows 01:16, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, but I'm still surprised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:22, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]About this edit summary: the edit is fine (why the IP wants to complicate things?) but in fact 16 is an element of every finite field, as is every integer. (Sometimes it has a simpler name, like "0".) --JBL (talk) 13:57, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! The article finite field says "a finite field is a field that contains a finite number of elements". In that sense it's not true that every integer is an element of every finite field.
- If I'm not mistaken, one could say that the elements of a finite field are the integers 0..pk-1. That's why I wrote that 16 is not an element of every finite field.
- But if we treat a finite field as a set of congruence classes of integers, then every integer is an element of one of these congruence classes. In other words, every integer is an element of an element of any finite field. I guess that's what you meant, and of course I agree.
- Or one could say that every finite field has an element for which "16" is a valid name (but that name does not necessarily designate the integer 16). Anyway, we basically agree. I'm just being picky. Chrisahn (talk) 16:04, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- I agree with you that the integer 16 is an element of an element of every finite field, but what I meant is the last thing you wrote (that the symbol "16" represents a thing that is not an integer but is an element of the field -- I guess I shouldn't have said "as is every integer"). Anyhow, what's the internet for, if not for cat videos and being excessively pedantic about things that don't matter? :) Happy editing, JBL (talk) 18:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- I agree, and I can't find even an irrelevant little mistake in your response that we could squabble over, so I guess we'll just have to agree to agree. How disappointing. ;) Chrisahn (talk) 02:25, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- I agree with you that the integer 16 is an element of an element of every finite field, but what I meant is the last thing you wrote (that the symbol "16" represents a thing that is not an integer but is an element of the field -- I guess I shouldn't have said "as is every integer"). Anyhow, what's the internet for, if not for cat videos and being excessively pedantic about things that don't matter? :) Happy editing, JBL (talk) 18:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Thanks for your message. I clearly indicated on each of my edits why I deleted that particular part of the content. There simply is no content on the page that passes Wikipedia's criteria. Also see this message from 2013. But ok, I won't blank it. Chrisahn (talk) 10:21, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]Animal-industrial complex
[edit]I saw you (as did I) deleted some of the recent spamming of Animal–industrial complex being added to any and every "animal" article without regard to whether or not the topic is even relevant. The animal rights people have been expanding their "wallpapering" of Wikipedia. I can't quite pinpoint what is the policy that is being violated with this, but it sure doesn't seem right. Do you have any insight? Normal Op (talk) 20:49, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- It depends on what's added where. I sympathize to some extent with the animal rights movement, but my opinions or beliefs are as irrelevant as anyone else's when we're editing Wikipedia. We must not let our opinions guide our editing, and we must not abuse Wikipedia trying to push our agenda, whatever it may be.
- I'd say the article Animal–industrial complex (and to a lesser degree Critical animal studies) violates WP:NPOV in general and WP:UNDUE in particular, possibly even WP:FRINGE. As far as I can tell, the term animal–industrial complex isn't relevant and the article should be deleted.
- Regarding "See also" sections - MOS:SEEALSO says: The links in the "See also" section should be relevant. The word relevant links to MOS:BUILD, which says: Ask yourself, "How likely is it that the reader will also want to read that other article?" As far as I can tell, the concept animal–industrial complex is rather a fringe idea, so it almost never should be included in a "See also" section. -- Chrisahn (talk) 22:06, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- I agree with everything you wrote. The Animal-ind complx article is rather new and came on my radar because they added it to something on my watchlist. The article was very esoteric and almost impossible to understand. Now they've added it to the Template:Animal rights, and are adding that template plus "see alsos" to every article related to animals, especially animal production for consumption articles. I'm about ready to take it to the Village Pump to see what the rest of the WP community thinks about it all. I think I'll do some more trimming before I do that, though. Thanks for the input. Normal Op (talk) 23:14, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
Seems they have added Animal–industrial complex to Template:Meat (along with about a dozen other AR and ethical vegan articles) so that trying to determine which pages link to AIC produces a list of 713 articles! In reality, there are probably 28 articles left to check. Normal Op (talk) 06:05, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link! I didn't know about the insource search parameter. I'll have a look. -- Chrisahn (talk) 17:48, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Sure thing. I love that search method and use it regularly to find all occurrences of, say, a nonRS website. I keep a sample search bookmarked in my web browser so it's always at my fingertips. Normal Op (talk) 18:00, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Good job on catching those SYNTH passages in the AIC article. Normal Op (talk) 20:08, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, there's been lots of garbage on that page, e.g. unrelated and/or misquoted sources. I tried to clean it up as much as I could.
- I also removed lots of spurious links to that page. I think the links that are left are OK.
- But I still think the article should actually be deleted, just like Category:Animal industrial complex was deleted soon after it was created. -- Chrisahn (talk) 22:10, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- I agree it should be deleted as a FRINGE topic. But no one can accuse us of not doing any BEFORE work (I put in my few hours work about 10 days ago). Maybe give it a few weeks and then nominate it for AfD if no better sources show up? Normal Op (talk) 23:49, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
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Value stream management
[edit]I'm working on the body of the Value stream management page, including references, now. I'm the author of the Project to Product book, which describes the body of work, and this page is all original content and good references describing the new discipline. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beatmik (talk • contribs) 21:04, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks for tagging Draft:Value stream management. :)
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Help
[edit]Hi Chrisahn ! I am User:Helppublic Recently, one Article viz., Royapettah created by me was accepted as an Article for Creation. I am in the process of improving the article. Meanwhile one User: Rasnaboy, edits the same article. But I feel the User deletes most of the article Subheadings and data and copyedits from other articles (I feel so), and adds images related to articles such as Thousand Lights Mosque, All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam, and Royapettah Clock Tower, Chennai. So, I reverted the images and data irrelevant to it. Now, the User send a message to my talk page and blaming me as edit warring. In this regard, I request your suggestion. Thank you. --Helppublic (talk) 09:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
My edit on Abuse of power
[edit]Hey Chrisahn, I see you reverted my edit on Abuse of power. I'm working on Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links, which uses a bot-generated list of links to disambiguation pages. Because Abuse of power links to Abuse of Power, it shows up on that list, even though the link to a DAB page in this case is intentional. That also means that different editors working on the project will keep needlessly looking for this DABlink in the future, because it stays on the list. However, making it link instead to Abuse of Power (disambiguation) stops the bot from reporting the link; it understands that the DABlink is intentional if it explicitly links to a '... (disambiguation)' page. That was the purpose of my edit. Hope that clears it up! Lennart97 (talk) 19:03, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation! I suspected something like this, but didn't quite understand it. I reverted my revert and added a note so that others hopefully won't revert again. :-) -- Chrisahn (talk) 19:17, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Excellent, thank you! Lennart97 (talk) 19:32, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Convert
[edit]Not being picky ago, but since you seem to know about good talkpage behaviour: [1] this is not the way to do it. And since you ask me what I think: ... ask me then. -DePiep (talk) 01:01, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- I don't see what's wrong with my edit or my comment. I made a suggestion about conversions between bits and bytes. The suggestion was misunderstood, the thread got deranged into one of these age-old discussions about WP:COMPUNITS. I'd love to add this conversion functionality, but I'm afraid if people think this is about WP:COMPUNITS, it will never happen. That's why I politely asked to close the discussion. When I have time, I'll start a new approach for this suggestion. I archived the discussion. See Template_talk:Convert/Archive 2#Bits and bytes. Please don't add it to the talk page again. Thanks. -- Chrisahn (talk) 01:09, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- You know it is disputed, still you reverted. That is called WP:editwarring. (To be clear: you are not the one to decide about closing a discussion you are involved in -- started even). -DePiep (talk) 01:15, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- No, you cannot editwar and discuss. So please restore the previous version, the one without your superiour edits. After that, you can argue. -DePiep (talk) 01:19, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]Input Welcome on Discrimination talk page
[edit]Hey there Chrisahn. Any input you have is welcome on the Talk:Discrimination#Adding Species section since you've covered this a few months ago during the Discrimination Template discussion and were referenced as an editor by the OP of the section (and you've thanked me for my edits on the topic), you may have something to say on the topic, perhaps help resolve the dispute or anything. Delayed Happy New Year by the way. Sdio7 (talk) 18:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I added a slightly updated copy of my comment from Template talk:Discrimination. Of course, the common meaning of the word "discrimination" hasn't changed since that long and detailed debate in October 2020, so I hope we can put the new discussion to rest soon. — Chrisahn (talk) 19:07, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
January 2021
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Chrisahn (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
@Drmies: I think there's a misunderstanding. Please have a closer look at what I deleted here. Here's a quick timeline: Walrus had started a meta discussion, and I responded. Now Walrus removed my response, but kept Walrus's initial comments. It's fine with me to remove that meta discussion, but then we must remove all of it, not just my part. Removing only my comments is not OK. So I went ahead and removed the rest of that meta discussion. I simply finished what Walrus had started. Please unblock me. Thanks.
As for the comments I had struck because they didn't provide any arguments, I already said here, here, and here that this was a misunderstanding and an error on my part. I won't strike such comments again.
Accept reason:
Unblocked--but with the caveat that "meta discussion" is not a term I subscribe too. I have faith that no further disruption will follow. Happy editing. Drmies (talk) 21:42, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Anyone looking for why the thread was moved by me, can see my response in the thread above. Walrus Ji (talk) 16:20, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- You're saying the discussion starting with your "note" was off-topic, and I agree. That whole discussion, including your initial "note", was off-topic. Now you removed my comments, but you kept your "note". That's not OK. I simply finished what you had started: after you had removed my response, I also removed your "note", because it's off-topic. That's all. — Chrisahn (talk) 16:46, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chrisahn, I understand that this edit where you tried to remove my comment led to the block. VQuakr has also tried to explain this to you in the long thread. Yet you continue to claim that you did nothing wrong with your removal. In the unblock statement, you have not mentioned that you will no longer attempt to remove it if unblocked. Please clearly confirm, if you still intend to remove the note and complete your "unfinished" business. Walrus Ji (talk) 22:27, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Walrus Ji: When you deleted my comments from two sub-threads, you violated WP:TPO. (You tried to justify your action by WP:TALKOFFTOPIC, but you misread that policy, as I explained here.)
- The two sub-threads were: 1. The thread about your note "Chrisahn seems to have taken it upon himself...". 2. The thread about your sentence "No more pussy footing, grab em". The subjects of these threads are quite different, so let's look at them separately.
- 1. The thread about your note "Chrisahn seems to have taken it upon himself...". I agree that the note and the thread it started is off-topic. It doesn't add anything useful to the discussion about a new page title. I can think of three ways to deal with it:
- Remove it completely. I think that would be the best solution. (If you want, you can of course move its original content to your talk page and link to it.)
- Restore it to its state before you deleted it. I think that would be the worst solution.
- If you insist on keeping the off-topic note in the discussion about the title, I'll add a short comment to explain what happened. The whole sub-thread would then look like this:
- Note: User:Chrisahn seems to have taken it upon himself and is actively striking off comments that he does not like. He is neither an admin nor has any basis to do that. Accordingly I have reverted him. Others might want to keep a check on his actions on this thread. --Walrus Ji (talk) 18:57, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- I had struck (as in
struck) three comments that were not sustained by arguments except per User X. I thought striking such comments was common practice, but I was wrong (striking is only allowed for duplicate comments by the same account, and a few other rare cases). Walrus Ji reverted these comments to their original state, which was the right thing to do. Thanks. — Chrisahn (talk) 18:48, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- I had struck (as in
- 2. The thread about your sentence "No more pussy footing, grab em": All comments (yours and mine) in that thread are on topic – we're talking about your arguments for the title "insurrection". Please restore this sub-thread to its state before your deletion. (If you want, you can move the extended discussion we've had here to your talk page and link to it.)
- After we've put this whole mess behind us, I'll remove everything related to it from my user talk page. If you want to keep the content of #Meta discussion about my !vote or #Meta discussion about the note, you can move it to your user talk page. (Just to make sure there's no misunderstanding: Do not copy anything else from my talk page to yours.)
- Which of the three solutions for sub-thread 1 do you prefer? — Chrisahn (talk) 18:48, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chrisahn, replied at the bottom of the page, where new comments are placed. Walrus Ji (talk) 19:31, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chrisahn, I understand that this edit where you tried to remove my comment led to the block. VQuakr has also tried to explain this to you in the long thread. Yet you continue to claim that you did nothing wrong with your removal. In the unblock statement, you have not mentioned that you will no longer attempt to remove it if unblocked. Please clearly confirm, if you still intend to remove the note and complete your "unfinished" business. Walrus Ji (talk) 22:27, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- You're saying the discussion starting with your "note" was off-topic, and I agree. That whole discussion, including your initial "note", was off-topic. Now you removed my comments, but you kept your "note". That's not OK. I simply finished what you had started: after you had removed my response, I also removed your "note", because it's off-topic. That's all. — Chrisahn (talk) 16:46, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Anyone looking for why the thread was moved by me, can see my response in the thread above. Walrus Ji (talk) 16:20, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Comment from involved admin: I support unblocking, although I think Chrisahn should back off a bit and take a breather from that particular talk page. It's just a debate about a subtle non-momentus one-word change to the title of the article, in which the original title, the proposed title, or another alternative are all adequate. If the name changes or not, it isn't final, and isn't the end of the world. After a week or so, another debate will start. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:58, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think I had already reduced my involvement with the discussion when that silly fight between Walrus and me started. And I agree with the rest of your comment. I've said something similar a few hours after the start of the debate:
- We can't have another move request while this one is open, so I'm afraid we'll have to wait seven days until it fails, and then we can have a new request that meets WP:NCE and has a better chance of succeeding. Well, so be it. As you said, the current name isn't terrible. We can live with it for another 14 days.
- :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 02:30, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
@Drmies: Please explain why you blocked me. You wrote: "Disruptive editing--continued removal of comments from article talk page after the rules were explained." I understand that my striking of comments was an error and disruptive, but that had long been reverted when you blocked me. Later Walrus Ji removed several of my comments from the talk page because they were off-topic (I agree), keeping only an initial note (by Walrus) and a link to the original content (that Walrus had copied to my talk page). I simply removed the remaning note by Walrus (which was off-topic as well), but I kept the link to the original content. I don't think that was disruptive. EDIT: But it would certainly have been better if Walrus and I had tried to find a consensus on how to deal with that off-topic stuff before deleting each other's comments. — Chrisahn (talk) 19:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- For disrupting the talk page. But I appreciate your last comment, and will unblock. Drmies (talk) 21:40, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! (The term "meta discussion" was introduced into this debate by Walrus to describe a thread that had supposedly gone off topic, so I used it as well. But as we saw here, it's hard to find consensus on whether something is a "meta discussion" or on topic...) — Chrisahn (talk) 21:59, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chrisahn, in case you have not noticed yet,No other Admin or page watcher (among the hundreds I reckon) reverted my edit where I MOVED your WP:OFFTOPIC comments from the Article talk to your user talk. I take it as a consensus and silent agreement with my decision to MOVE the off topic comments. VQuakr even tried to explain it to you, why my comment that was left was not off topic. I humbly request you to drop this now and move on to more productive work. If you want any of my comment that are still on that page removed, you should ask an admin to do it for you, rather than doing it yourself. Walrus Ji (talk) 19:29, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- VQuakr didn't state an opinion about whether any comments were off-topic. The conversation between VQuakr and me was about a different question. — Chrisahn (talk) 20:35, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed. Walrus Ji, you've pinged me a couple of times here; I don't think there is any need for you to keep doing that. I don't think there is anything for me to add to this section: more non-admin opinions here aren't going to help anyone, and the playful jab-trading tone I took earlier with Chrisahn isn't really appropriate to continue now that there has been admin action. VQuakr (talk) 20:56, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- VQuakr, noted. Chrisahn for the same reasons, please do not expect any further response from me on this talk page or this issue. Walrus Ji (talk) 21:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Walrus Ji: That's fine with me. If you change your mind and you want to add anything here in the next 24 hours, that's OK. But after that (starting 24 hours from now), DO NOT EDIT MY USER PAGES IN ANY WAY. In particular, DO NOT ADD ANY SECTIONS TO MY USER TALK PAGE. (Of course, I'll stay away from your user pages as well.) — Chrisahn (talk) 21:21, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- VQuakr, noted. Chrisahn for the same reasons, please do not expect any further response from me on this talk page or this issue. Walrus Ji (talk) 21:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed. Walrus Ji, you've pinged me a couple of times here; I don't think there is any need for you to keep doing that. I don't think there is anything for me to add to this section: more non-admin opinions here aren't going to help anyone, and the playful jab-trading tone I took earlier with Chrisahn isn't really appropriate to continue now that there has been admin action. VQuakr (talk) 20:56, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- VQuakr didn't state an opinion about whether any comments were off-topic. The conversation between VQuakr and me was about a different question. — Chrisahn (talk) 20:35, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Discretionary sanctions violation
[edit]Your edit here is a violation of the discretionary sanctions at Donald Trump, which prohibit reinstating controversial edits within 24 hours after they have been challenged in the absence of consensus at talk. You are aware that they were challenged because you commented at one of the talk page discussions about them. Please self-revert, or you risk being blocked. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 14:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Sdkb: This whole situation is a mess. I saw this edit with the comment "This shouldn't be contentious but feel free to revert". I looked at other articles about former US presidents and saw they all followed the pattern "X is an American [occupation] who served as the [n]th president", so I thought it shouldn't be contentious to apply this pattern to Donald Trump as well.
- When I started to edit the page, I saw the HTML comment saying we shouldn't edit the first sentence, so I had a quick look at the talk page – which is a bit of a mess itself... I think I found Talk:Donald Trump#Consensus #17, which looked like there wasn't a consensus, and either way it wasn't clear from that HTML comment what the consensus was supposed to have been, and the sentence had already been changed several times, so I went ahead with my edit.
- (My comment on the talk page was more of an afterthought, prompted by Talk:Barack Obama#Commentary on the phrase "served as".)
- Anyway, I don't want to fight about it, and I won't touch that first paragraph again in the next few days. It will all be resolved soon anyway. :-)
- I also added a longer comment on your talk page at User talk:Sdkb#Donald Trump. Take care! And let's all cool down a bit. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 22:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chrisahn, agreed, and I apologize for taking an overly harsh tone above. Hopefully this will settle down soon. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 23:01, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comments, Chrisahn :) GoodDay (talk) 23:17, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Discretionary Sanctions violation at Donald Trump
[edit]I see from the recent thread above that you are aware of the 24-hour BRD page restriction at Donald Trump. You have again violated it with these two edits: 1 2 Please self-revert your reinstatement and engange in substantive discussion at talk. @Awilley, Sdkb, and Space4Time3Continuum2x:. SPECIFICO talk 14:28, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- OK, done. Please engage in a substantive discussion and provide evidence that Trump was personally involved in the negotiations. — Chrisahn (talk) 14:51, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- You will benefit from reviewing contemporaneous news accounts and subsequent outraged reaction. But nothing justifies aggressive editing and cutting wide swaths from this very intensively edited article when such cuts may be controversial. Fortunately, Awilley had the foresight to remove 1RR so that the damage can be mitigated. SPECIFICO talk 15:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Notice of noticeboard discussion
[edit] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Subtle_vandalism_targeting_relatively_novel_RM_method — Alalch Emis 23:26, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- In my view this action on the part of the complainant is out of order. I was about to add, after the edit complained of, 'For that reason, I decline to accept the usefulness or validity of the exercise, and abstain from entering my name anywhere therein.' Qexigator (talk) 00:07, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Multi page moves
[edit]Moving here to avoid spamming the article talk page; hope you don't mind. Disclaimer: I'm not a page move discussion expert. My understanding is that the intent behind multi page moves isn't really to address daughter articles. It so that if I'm a salad lover and want to propose moving Eruca vesicaria to Rocket, I'm sure to let the folks at Rocket know that we're discussing moving them to Rocket (flying thingy). You're not wrong that explicitly discussing daughter articles might be less work overall, but the bureaucratic overhead when we're already having so much trouble having productive discussion will kill any chances. Much better to move the parent article, then have a subsequent discussion on the daughter articles (if anyone even objects to a bold move of them). Everything from "more generally" onwards was more a most-mortem on the previous RM than directed at you. VQuakr (talk) 06:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
AntiTrout
[edit]![]() |
Here’s an AntiTrout (the polar opposite of a Trout) |
For pointing out the WP:OR problems with a suggestion I made on the talk page of the article on the Jan 6 2021 Storming of the Capitol. Treat as if it is a reward for pointing out someone else did something silly in a constructive way (therefore the polar opposite of a trout.) 4D4850 (talk) 14:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
- @4D4850: Thanks! :-) I didn't find your suggestion silly at all. The fivethirtyeight article you mentioned is very interesting – anyone interested in US politics should read it. It's unfortunate we probably can't use it on 2021 storming of the United States Capitol. But maybe https://twitter.com/leedrutman wrote something about the events of January 6 that we could use in 2021 storming of the United States Capitol, Aftermath of the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol or Domestic reactions to the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol? I haven't found anything yet. — Chrisahn (talk) 15:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Chrisahn: That would be good, except I can’t help look because of parental controls on my home tablet and my computer account, and the school controls on my school tablet. So I can’t help look at the aforementioned website. 4D4850 (talk) 17:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
ANI
[edit] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Alalch Emis (talk) 20:46, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
RAS Syndrome
[edit]If you'd like to continue the discussion on 'DC Comics' I've further explained why it's not a redundant acronym on the RAS talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.112.202.230 (talk) 21:07, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- You simply repeated what you had said many times before. There's no point in continuing the discussion. WP:DROPTHESTICK. — Chrisahn (talk) 08:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Though we're on opposite sides of the move review, I thank you for your work on removing content "not directly related to Trump the person" from the article here. It's been something people, especially a select few opposing virtually all additions of content, have been saying for a while, but I've not had the time to evaluate and make changes and others have just gotten flak when they do so. Not to mention the article has been wayyyyyy over the size recommendations for years and any time someone wants to remove something, it gets re-added by someone. But maybe since you're curating it and not just removing things randomly (from what I've observed I see your reasoning exactly even though you didn't expand greatly on it in edit summaries) this will go better. Regardless, thanks for your work :) -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 04:11, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Berchanhimez: Thanks! I must admit I gave up though. Some editors are spending a lot of time ensuring that nothing positive is said about Trump in the article Donald Trump. Even if almost everyone (media and politicans, including Trump's staunch opponents) agrees it's a positive and remarkable development, as in the case of the so-called Abraham Accords. These users also insist the article must say that "Trump actively supported the Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen", although his policy in this regard hardly differed from Obama's, and our wording in Barack Obama is much weaker. It's a subtle but pervasive and persistent violation of WP:NPOV. It looks like Wikipedia is getting infected by the awful polarization of American politics. Unfortunately, I don't have the time and energy to do much against it. (It shouldn't matter, but I guess I have to say it: I have zero sympathy for Trump. I think he's an uneducated and morally corrupt narcissist. But we must not let our opinions guide us when we contribute to Wikipdia. We must adhere to WP:NPOV.) — Chrisahn (talk) 15:31, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
provide reliable sources
[edit]YOU'RE REQUESTED TO PROVIDE RELIABLE SOURCES ON THE ECONOMY OF INDIA TOPIC gdp per capita DEBAISH GHOSH MAJUMDAR (talk) 11:04, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't quite understand what you're trying to say, but I guess you should read WP:BURDEN. (Also, writing in ALL CAPS is generally frowned upon. It's perceived as "shouting". If you want to talk to me, don't use all caps. Thanks.) — Chrisahn (talk) 11:58, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- I just checked the current infobox numbers for GDP per capita in Economy of India: $2,191 (nominal; 2021 est.), $7,333 (PPP; 2021 est.). The source for both is [2]. If you go to that page, click the "Select an indicator" button and select one of the "GDP per capita, current prices" options, you'll see the numbers "2.19 thousand" and "7.33 thousand", respectively. If you then click the link "IMF DataMapper, April 2021" in the top right corner of the chart, you will get to [3] and [4], respectively, and if you scroll down and export the "Selected Data" as an Excel file, you'll find the numbers 2190.901 and 7332.896, respectively, for 2021. If you believe these numbers are wrong or outdated, you'll have to provide a reliable source. — Chrisahn (talk) 13:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Track length of Should I Stay or Should I Go? by the Clash
[edit]Hello. I inserted 3:10 originally because of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QirsBCrXNI0 , and others in list. That was all. --Trainways (talk) 01:29, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi! Thanks for your message. I really appreciate it, because I wasn't sure whether your edit was simply vandalism – there are so many new accounts that try to sneak nonsense into articles... I saw that the YouTube video of the song on the official channel is 3:10 long and suspected that might have been the reason for your edit, but I wasn't sure. It would be great if you could mention such sources in your edit comment, or insert them into the article as a reference, i.e. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN1WwnEDWAM</ref>. Then other editors will know why you made the edit. Now for the content of the edit: The article is about the song, not the video, and I think we should provide the original length of the song as it was on the LP or single in 1982. I looked for reliable sources, but didn't find any. AllMusic says 3:09, Discogs says 3:06, but both aren't very reliable according to our list WP:RSP. I reverted the article back to 3:06, just because that's what we've had for years. But I'm not sure anymore what's correct. Maybe there isn't a correct answer – maybe the Clash didn't print the length of the song on any album or single cover back then, and any length information we may find is due to someone who wasn't involved with the recording at all trying to measure the length... So if you or someone else finds a reliable source, that would be great! Anyway – thanks for your message and happy editing! — Chrisahn (talk) 12:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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[edit]Kosovo OIC
[edit]I found this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Membership_of_Kosovo_in_international_organizations#Did_Kosovo_apply_for_OIC_observer_status%3F should we add Kosovo is interested in OIC membership/observer status? S.G ReDark (talk) 19:46, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think so. In the discussion you found, I gave a detailed explanation that the available sources are rather weak and inconclusive. Until we find new sources, I don't think we should make any claim about what Kosovo's government has done or intends to do in regard to OIC. If you find new WP:reliable sources, feel free to add to that discussion you found. (My talk page isn't the best place for further discussion of the issue.) — Chrisahn (talk) 20:08, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
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why?
[edit]sir why you undid the article on partition numbers? any specific reason? John2900 (talk) 11:42, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- See WP:OR, WP:RS and other policies. — Chrisahn (talk) 11:44, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- just tell me that if the mathematical work is useful and also published, then why we can't add it? and it doesn't even has any flaws! John2900 (talk) 11:44, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Then what to do if I want to publish it here? John2900 (talk) 11:46, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- You can't. See WP:OR. — Chrisahn (talk) 11:47, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- If I publish my content to arXiv which is official research platform of cornell University then can I publish it here? John2900 (talk) 13:30, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- You can't. See WP:OR. — Chrisahn (talk) 11:47, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Then what to do if I want to publish it here? John2900 (talk) 11:46, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
It's a privacy issue
[edit]your revert, so please remove from infobox. ww2censor (talk) 01:11, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- No. See Talk:Emily St. John Mandel, e.g. Special:Diff/1128625577. — Chrisahn (talk) 01:27, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Date format
[edit]Sorry, my error. Tony (talk) 02:56, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Tony1: No problem, it happens. I checked some more of your recent edits, and 98-99% of them are good, thanks for the work! I found a few that I think should be switched (back) from mdy to dmy: 2022 in Mali (date formats in the article are pretty messy, but according to Date format by country, Mali uses dmy); Cino Moscatelli; Armando Navarrete Navarrete; 2023 European League of Football rosters and staff, although they're playing American football ;-). I'd edit the articles myself, but I don't know how to use the script, and I guess it won't be much work for you? Let me know if I can help. Thanks! — Chrisahn (talk) 03:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't know there was an article on date formats by country. But I'm not sure that Mali counts. There's a definite requirement for majority native-English-speaking countries (US, Canada, UK, Ireland, Australia, NZ); and the others are simply whoever got there first. Thanks for checking through my edits. Would you like to use the script? Tony (talk) 04:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Thank you :)
[edit]Thank you for your comment [5] at the Nord Stream Explosion talk page [6]. And, greeting from America to you! Best regards~ BetsyRMadison (talk) 14:30, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Regarding Neely edit
[edit]Hi, I added per WP:RELIABLE "guideline" (or so I believe), you reverted per WP:RS/P "informational" (good to know). So I reverted per WP:FOXNEWS ("reliable" source), thought the issue cleared up and didn't expect another revert since I explained in the edit summary. Can you explain (in relation to WP:BRD) and/or just reinstate? Note I wasn't adding an WP:EXCEPTIONAL/"extraordinary claim". comp.arch (talk) 21:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- If you want to add that sentence, you should add a section at Talk:Killing of Jordan Neely. – Briefly: 1. Clashes between protesters and police are already mentioned in the previous sentence. 2. The information you added doesn't seem relevant. 3. There are three Fox News entries on WP:RS/P. – I won't respond again here, but feel free to start a discussion at Talk:Killing of Jordan Neely, and I'll respond there. — Chrisahn (talk) 22:09, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
You're right!
[edit]Sorry about the death of Cayley Anthony edit! Good catch.--Jerome Frank Disciple 14:31, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- I did change "Anthony" to "Casey" in the next sentence, as I think "Dominic Casey said Baez admitted to an affair with Casey" doesn't actually risk confusion. (Though if you want to reinsert "Anthony" and add "Casey" before it, that works too.)--Jerome Frank Disciple 14:34, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Looks good! The article isn't quite consistent, but in most cases a lone "Anthony" refers to Caylee, so your solution makes more sense than the previous version. Thanks! — Chrisahn (talk) 17:24, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- If you see any errors please feel free to fix or let me know! (I'll also take another look when I get a chance.) It definitely should be consistent. When I first came across the article, it was pretty thoroughly mixed usage (various passages would use: 1. "Casey" and "Caylee", 2. "Anthony" and "Caylee", or 3. "Casey" and "Anthony"). If I recall correctly, I initially thought WP:IAR was warranted for "Anthony" and "Caylee", but then I came across various discussions that, by community consensus, rejected alterations to WP:SAMESURNAME for minors (even very young minors), so I tried to ensure everything was "Casey" (for the mother) and "Anthony" (for the article subject, the daughter).--Jerome Frank Disciple 17:35, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- To me it feels a bit surprising when the given name refers to an adult and the surname to a child. But it's consistent and makes sense. I just fixed a few more spots where "Anthony" referred to the mother. There may be more, I haven't checked the whole article. — Chrisahn (talk) 17:58, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- I agree! I think it's a little unusual—probably not the norm for what our reliable sources usually do—but it doesn't bother me enough to want to push the issue or flaunt the apparent community consensus.--Jerome Frank Disciple 18:27, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- To me it feels a bit surprising when the given name refers to an adult and the surname to a child. But it's consistent and makes sense. I just fixed a few more spots where "Anthony" referred to the mother. There may be more, I haven't checked the whole article. — Chrisahn (talk) 17:58, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- If you see any errors please feel free to fix or let me know! (I'll also take another look when I get a chance.) It definitely should be consistent. When I first came across the article, it was pretty thoroughly mixed usage (various passages would use: 1. "Casey" and "Caylee", 2. "Anthony" and "Caylee", or 3. "Casey" and "Anthony"). If I recall correctly, I initially thought WP:IAR was warranted for "Anthony" and "Caylee", but then I came across various discussions that, by community consensus, rejected alterations to WP:SAMESURNAME for minors (even very young minors), so I tried to ensure everything was "Casey" (for the mother) and "Anthony" (for the article subject, the daughter).--Jerome Frank Disciple 17:35, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Looks good! The article isn't quite consistent, but in most cases a lone "Anthony" refers to Caylee, so your solution makes more sense than the previous version. Thanks! — Chrisahn (talk) 17:24, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
Edit warring at Discrimination based on skin color
[edit]I assume you are experienced enough to know about The three-revert rule. If not, here's a link: Wikipedia:Edit warring#The three-revert rule. I count four reverts at Discrimination based on skin color. If you intend to pursue this further, start a new discussion on the article's talk page at Talk:Discrimination based on skin color. Grayfell (talk) 05:06, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]I applaud your work at Entropy (Information theory) that removes content that is not sourced. The maths and comp sci articles that are near to entirely WP:OR—going on line after line, paragraph after paragraph, etc. without a citation—are unusable as teaching material. (We hold WP to it's word, that its content is only as good as its sourcing, see General Disclaimer. So we simply do not use articles that are without sources; while an expert might arrive and say "All this is fine.", to our reading, WP encyclopedic philosophy is not based on trust in expertise of its editors.) Probably preaching to the choir. Just want to encourage your bold efforts in support of reliably sourced content. Cheers. A professor, once. 73.8.193.28 (talk) 18:34, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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- I pinged the users who were mentioned by name in the tumblr posting, because it might affect their work on Wikipedia, and the posting even mentioned legal actions. If any other users had been mentioned in the post, I would have pinged them as well, regardless of their position or opinion. I have no opinion on the subject of ethnicity, because I know next to nothing about it. — Chrisahn (talk) 11:45, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- It doesn't need to be posted on pages like Lily Gladstone. If it needs to be escalated further, it can be at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard etc, if vandalism occurs because of that tumblr blog. oncamera (talk page) 11:55, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- I pinged the users who were mentioned by name in the tumblr posting, because it might affect their work on Wikipedia, and the posting even mentioned legal actions. If any other users had been mentioned in the post, I would have pinged them as well, regardless of their position or opinion. I have no opinion on the subject of ethnicity, because I know next to nothing about it. — Chrisahn (talk) 11:45, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- The tumblr post mentions Talk:Lily Gladstone and links to it rather prominently. I added a section on that talk page because the tumblr post might affect discussions on that page. You deleted the section. That's ok, I don't really mind. Maybe the project page is the better place for this stuff. — Chrisahn (talk) 12:00, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- I see you're involved in the bluesky conversations on DLB about Canvassing/Legal. oncamera (talk page) 12:36, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- What's DLB? Chrisahn (talk) 12:38, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- The bluesky link you just posted on the Wikiproject page. oncamera (talk page) 12:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- What's DLB? Chrisahn (talk) 12:38, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- I see you're involved in the bluesky conversations on DLB about Canvassing/Legal. oncamera (talk page) 12:36, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- The tumblr post mentions Talk:Lily Gladstone and links to it rather prominently. I added a section on that talk page because the tumblr post might affect discussions on that page. You deleted the section. That's ok, I don't really mind. Maybe the project page is the better place for this stuff. — Chrisahn (talk) 12:00, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't understand what you meant by "DLB", but I guess you mean the Bluesky user "Darcie Little Badger" who shared the tumblr link. — Chrisahn (talk) 12:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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Merge discussion
[edit]Hi, did you forget to create a merge discussion for the Cultural genocide, or is it located somewhere else than the article talk page? Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:27, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up! I created the discussion now, had forgotten about it. — Chrisahn (talk) 10:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)