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{{ping|PaPa PaPaRoony}} according to The Aviation Herald, there were 56 passengers onboard, with 6 being non-active crew for a later flight.[http://avherald.com/h?article=4e18553c&opt=0] Would we include this in the crew section in the infobox? I wouldn't say so because they were (from my understanding) passengers waiting to be crew on a later flight. I don't think we should value primary sources over secondary sources either, does the official statement say that there were 6 inactive crew? [[User:FozzieHey|FozzieHey]] ([[User talk:FozzieHey|talk]]) 23:34, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
{{ping|PaPa PaPaRoony}} according to The Aviation Herald, there were 56 passengers onboard, with 6 being non-active crew for a later flight.[http://avherald.com/h?article=4e18553c&opt=0] Would we include this in the crew section in the infobox? I wouldn't say so because they were (from my understanding) passengers waiting to be crew on a later flight. I don't think we should value primary sources over secondary sources either, does the official statement say that there were 6 inactive crew? [[User:FozzieHey|FozzieHey]] ([[User talk:FozzieHey|talk]]) 23:34, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
{{ping|PFozzieHey}} It was from the official statement of Minister of Transportation himself, Budi Karya Sumadi. I think we shouldn't change the number since it IS the official number given from the government. If the final report stated differently, however, THEN we may change the number.[[User talk:PaPa PaPaRoony|talk]]) 23:54, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

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Sources

Flightradar24 is a good and valid source. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:59, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pigsonthewing, yes they are indeed. However the original file is lost. A lot of news outlets rely on them, so nothing to worry there. GeraldWL 11:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No file was cited. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:17, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Too much edit conflicts

It is better if we do a queue.... Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 11:09, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

More sources

Edit conflicts are tough to compete, so here are sources:

GeraldWL 12:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Map

A flight path map would be a good addition, and an update when they find the crash site to indicate that -- 70.31.205.108 (talk) 14:29, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is, actually, the flight map from Flightradar24, however I'm not sure if I can give critical commentary in the caption, as United States fair use requires that. Usually we just wait for the govt to release a map, on which it could be under public domain. As of now, various editors are sticking to news updates. GeraldWL 14:31, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Someone with graphic skills can edit one of the base maps for the region, if it is available on COMMONS, to put in a flight path, in a new image file -- 70.31.205.108 (talk) 14:35, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Pulau_Laki&params=5.9575_S_106.52139_E_type:isle for coordinates. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 15:00, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Aircraft History

I put a picture of The aircraft involved when it was in Continental Airlines. Work By Colin Brown Photography on Flickr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monxrchyy (talk • contribs) 21:42, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Passenger list

@PaPa PaPaRoony: according to The Aviation Herald, there were 56 passengers onboard, with 6 being non-active crew for a later flight.[1] Would we include this in the crew section in the infobox? I wouldn't say so because they were (from my understanding) passengers waiting to be crew on a later flight. I don't think we should value primary sources over secondary sources either, does the official statement say that there were 6 inactive crew? FozzieHey (talk) 23:34, 9 January 2021 (UTC) @PFozzieHey: It was from the official statement of Minister of Transportation himself, Budi Karya Sumadi. I think we shouldn't change the number since it IS the official number given from the government. If the final report stated differently, however, THEN we may change the number.talk) 23:54, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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