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{{ping|PaPa PaPaRoony}} according to The Aviation Herald, there were 56 passengers onboard, with 6 being non-active crew for a later flight.[http://avherald.com/h?article=4e18553c&opt=0] Would we include this in the crew section in the infobox? I wouldn't say so because they were (from my understanding) passengers waiting to be crew on a later flight. I don't think we should value primary sources over secondary sources either, does the official statement say that there were 6 inactive crew? [[User:FozzieHey|FozzieHey]] ([[User talk:FozzieHey|talk]]) 23:34, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
{{ping|PaPa PaPaRoony}} according to The Aviation Herald, there were 56 passengers onboard, with 6 being non-active crew for a later flight.[http://avherald.com/h?article=4e18553c&opt=0] Would we include this in the crew section in the infobox? I wouldn't say so because they were (from my understanding) passengers waiting to be crew on a later flight. I don't think we should value primary sources over secondary sources either, does the official statement say that there were 6 inactive crew? [[User:FozzieHey|FozzieHey]] ([[User talk:FozzieHey|talk]]) 23:34, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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{{ping|PFozzieHey}} It was from the official statement of Minister of Transportation himself, Budi Karya Sumadi. I think we shouldn't change the number since it IS the official number given from the government. If the final report stated differently, however, THEN we may change the number.[[User talk:PaPa PaPaRoony|talk]]) 23:54, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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Sources
Flightradar24 is a good and valid source. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:59, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- Pigsonthewing, yes they are indeed. However the original file is lost. A lot of news outlets rely on them, so nothing to worry there. GeraldWL 11:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- No file was cited. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:17, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Too much edit conflicts
It is better if we do a queue.... Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 11:09, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
More sources
Edit conflicts are tough to compete, so here are sources:
- https://tekno.kompas.com/read/2021/01/09/17331497/posisi-terakhir-sriwijaya-air-sj182-yang-hilang-kontak-terekam-flightradar24?page=all
- https://www.tribunnews.com/nasional/2021/01/09/pesawat-sriwijaya-air-sj182-jakarta-pontianak-hilang-kontak-angkut-59-penumpang
- https://www.cnnindonesia.com/nasional/20210109180800-20-591574/sj182-hilang-warga-pulau-seribu-dengar-dua-kali-ledakan
- https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20210109-0
- https://www.cnnindonesia.com/nasional/20210109181048-20-591575/sj182-hilang-tiga-kapal-sisir-laut-temukan-rambut-dan-kabel
- https://www.cnnindonesia.com/nasional/20210109172716-20-591568/flightradar24com-catat-sj182-turun-drastis-dari-10-ribu-kaki
- https://tekno.kompas.com/read/2021/01/09/18214267/spesifikasi-pesawat-sriwijaya-air-sj182-yang-hilang-kontak
- https://tekno.kompas.com/read/2021/01/09/18214267/spesifikasi-pesawat-sriwijaya-air-sj182-yang-hilang-kontak
- https://www.kompas.com/tren/read/2021/01/09/183418265/pesawat-sriwijaya-air-hilang-kontak-tagar-sj182-trending-di-twitter
- https://www.jpnn.com/news/sriwijaya-sj182-hilang-kontak-setelah-melewati-ketinggian-11000-kaki
- https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SJY182
GeraldWL 12:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Map
A flight path map would be a good addition, and an update when they find the crash site to indicate that -- 70.31.205.108 (talk) 14:29, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- There is, actually, the flight map from Flightradar24, however I'm not sure if I can give critical commentary in the caption, as United States fair use requires that. Usually we just wait for the govt to release a map, on which it could be under public domain. As of now, various editors are sticking to news updates. GeraldWL 14:31, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- Someone with graphic skills can edit one of the base maps for the region, if it is available on COMMONS, to put in a flight path, in a new image file -- 70.31.205.108 (talk) 14:35, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Aircraft History
I put a picture of The aircraft involved when it was in Continental Airlines. Work By Colin Brown Photography on Flickr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monxrchyy (talk • contribs) 21:42, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Passenger list
@PaPa PaPaRoony: according to The Aviation Herald, there were 56 passengers onboard, with 6 being non-active crew for a later flight.[1] Would we include this in the crew section in the infobox? I wouldn't say so because they were (from my understanding) passengers waiting to be crew on a later flight. I don't think we should value primary sources over secondary sources either, does the official statement say that there were 6 inactive crew? FozzieHey (talk) 23:34, 9 January 2021 (UTC) @PFozzieHey: It was from the official statement of Minister of Transportation himself, Budi Karya Sumadi. I think we shouldn't change the number since it IS the official number given from the government. If the final report stated differently, however, THEN we may change the number.talk) 23:54, 9 January 2021 (UTC)