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:::::Clearly, I'm not disputing the sources you have, or I would have reverted your edits again. However, by your own admission, even they don't agree on the release date. I also note that your ARIA source is not from the official ARIA website. As regards promo CDs, they are given away by record companies to selected media (especially radio stations) and record stores, to help promote a new release, anywhere from weeks to months in advance of the official release. That's one reason I don't accept that my memory is wrong. [[User:Editrite!|Editrite!]] ([[User talk:Editrite!#top|talk]]) 01:00, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
:::::Clearly, I'm not disputing the sources you have, or I would have reverted your edits again. However, by your own admission, even they don't agree on the release date. I also note that your ARIA source is not from the official ARIA website. As regards promo CDs, they are given away by record companies to selected media (especially radio stations) and record stores, to help promote a new release, anywhere from weeks to months in advance of the official release. That's one reason I don't accept that my memory is wrong. [[User:Editrite!|Editrite!]] ([[User talk:Editrite!#top|talk]]) 01:00, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
: {{replyto|Editrite!}} The image I uploaded is from The ARIA Report. These are not uploaded on the ARIA site, but are available via subscription (and these older issues can be purchased individually). It doesn't matter that the dates in The ARIA Report and the Australian Music Report differ - they are both from March 1990, which is what I have put. I'm well aware of what promo CD's are. Even if there was a promo for this album circulating in late 1989 (which I doubt), it wouldn't make a jot of difference, as release dates reflect the date that an album or single is ''commercially release; not when it a promo was pressed. Promo releases are not readily available to the public to purchase (and certainly weren't back then), and rarely in a shop. All of the evidence suggests your memory in this instance was off.[[User:Nqr9|Nqr9]] ([[User talk:Nqr9|talk]]) 08:32, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
: {{replyto|Editrite!}} The image I uploaded is from The ARIA Report. These are not uploaded on the ARIA site, but are available via subscription (and these older issues can be purchased individually). It doesn't matter that the dates in The ARIA Report and the Australian Music Report differ - they are both from March 1990, which is what I have put. I'm well aware of what promo CD's are. Even if there was a promo for this album circulating in late 1989 (which I doubt), it wouldn't make a jot of difference, as release dates reflect the date that an album or single is ''commercially released''; not when it a promo was pressed. Promo releases are not readily available to the public to purchase (and certainly weren't back then), and rarely in a shop. All of the evidence suggests your memory in this instance was off.[[User:Nqr9|Nqr9]] ([[User talk:Nqr9|talk]]) 08:32, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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Should be discussed in the talk page. I have restored the spelling that source used. If you still Have disagreement you are free to raise the issue on The talk page. don't edit war. Regards. --DBigXray 08:58, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The first source is WRONG, (that's why I changed it!) but the second is correct. I am a retired professional proofreader. If you're not sure about something e.g. spelling, do a Google search before jumping to conclusions. Now they are both wrong, instead of none, after my change/s. Editrite! (talk) 09:39, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
how can you call it wrong when Cambridge dictionary uses the spelling that I had added. --DBigXray 10:05, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, the reference you have found believe it to be optional, as you have seen. I have seen others that say "convener", which is technically more correct, since convene is the verb and you just add an "r" to form the noun,(which makes more sense) instead of changing the spelling. Anyway, all's well that ends well, as I see someone else has changed it back. Editrite! (talk) 22:20, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I can argue on the merits of convenor too, but I refuse to. Since both are correct. It was nice talking to you. regards.--DBigXray 06:02, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Kobayashi was also a nine-time world runner-up. I was counting the right table, but the wrong column. Pretty dumb of me, but not as dumb as confusing Japan with Earth. Anyway, just clearing that up. Thanks for settling the score, regardless of how it almost quintupled. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:05, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm curious to know why you removed my addition. It's factually correct and was the only cited example of his work in his later years. Michael Schlesinger aka Cadavra8Cadavra8 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:47, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think you've messaged the wrong editor. All I did, was delete one word "with" in the Personal life section, and changed one other word "of" in the Film and television career section, both grammar issues, which were mistakenly reverted by another editor anyway. Editrite! (talk) 07:43, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, okay, thanks, I'll check again. Cadavra8 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:28, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Go to the March 25 listing in Deaths of 2020 and check out the source. Editrite! (talk) 08:56, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyright/publishing dates on albums and singles are not necessarily the release dates

Hi, I reverted your edit on Girl Overboard page because publishing/copyright dates on albums and singles are not necessarily the same as the release date. Many, if not most, singles and albums released early in the new year will have the previous year's publishing/copyright date on them. Also, back in the 80s/90s, singles from overseas artists were often not released in Australia until months after their European/US release, so sometimes titles released well into the year would have the previous year's publishing/copyright date on them, despite not being released in Australia until the following year. Please do not confuse the two, and be mindful of checking that any changes you make are indeed correct before basing them solely on the publishing/copyright dates listed.Nqr9 (talk) 03:27, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Editrite!: Here's an upload of the relevant page from The ARIA Report, Australia's weekly, national chart publication that has been published since January 1990 and continues to be published currently - https://i.imgur.com/xmiriGP.jpg . Each edition of The ARIA Report contains a list of new release titles for the following week, and as you can see from that image, Paint a Picture was released in 1990. As I explained in my previous comment, copyright and publishing dates for albums, singles (and other media) do not always match the date the product was commercially released. Additionally, here's a Girl Overboard chart history I recently obtained from ARIA, our national chart compiler, showing the chart entry date for the Paint a Picture album was 5 March 1990 - https://i.imgur.com/kYiwtyP.jpg . It was not released in 1989. Please do not revert these edits back again.Nqr9 (talk) 11:56, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Before I get down to the nitty gritty, it's worth pointing out that the first album's release date in the discography section was not sourced (but the second was), before I made my edits, which has now been rectified. All the dates on both the CD and cover say 1989, and yes I remember buying it in 1989 (maybe it was a promo copy or ARIA made a mistake), it was manufactured in Australia and bought in Australia. To suggest that the release date is so different i.e. different years, doesn't make sense. What would be the point? As a then unknown Aussie band (not an overseas band) without a "track record" releasing their first album, it would not have been released overseas first. The record company normally releases a single first, to get people interested in the album which ties in with the article's timeline of October, 1989 for the first single, and the album is released soon after. If you bother to read the article, it also says that they started work on the first album in March 1990, which would have been physically impossible if you believe ARIA and it was released in early March. One other thing I should mention. Don't confuse release dates with chart entry dates. They bear little or no relationship to each other. An album or single can be released one day and chart the next day or the next week or the next month or even the next year depending on the circumstances! Editrite! (talk) 01:20, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Editrite!: Firstly, the article does not state that they began recording the album in March 1990 - the date beside Paint a Picture in that sentence implies that that's when the album was released. I have seen similar dates used like that in other Wikipedia articles. Secondly, it's not a matter of "believing" ARIA; The ARIA Report is a reliable, authoritative source for release dates, as these lists were published every week inside the publication. A similar, rival publication from the same period, the Australian Music Report, which was first published in 1974, has 12 March 1990 as the release date for Paint a Picture. I can pull that image out for you if you would like to see it for yourself. Yes, there is a week's difference in the dates, which is partly why I've left the release date as 'March 1990' rather than add the specific day, as I've done for Go (its release date, one week before its chart entry date, matches up nicely in contrast). That you "remember" buying the album in 1989 is inconsequential when there is better evidence to refute your claim. I suspect this is a false memory you have for this, or perhaps you are thinking instead of when you bought the "I Can't Believe" single, if you purchased that. As for the chart entry date correlating with the release date, the majority of titles released by artists with charting hit/s from this era will debut on the chart after their first week, or partial week in this instance as I suspect, of sales. It doesn't make sense that an album by an act with two contemporaneous top 50 hits would debut at the lower end of the top 100 3+ months after its release date, if it had been on sale since late 1989. On the topic of memories, I was a keen follower of music, new releases and the charts from this era, and distinctly recall Paint a Picture being advertised/seeing it for sale in-store after "The Love We Make" had already been a hit - and my memory in this instance is supported by the published release dates and chart entry date.Nqr9 (talk) 01:57, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The band began recording their debut album, Paint a Picture (March 1990)" is the direct quote. What it says (nothing about release date) and means is clear. It implies nothing, only in your mind. Don't deliberately misinterpret the facts to suit yourself. If you can't read or understand English, then you shouldn't be editing. If something else was meant, then the wording should be changed. Insulting my memory (which is excellent, by the way) won't get you anywhere. I only bought the album, not the single and have many promo CDs in my collection. My comments about release dates not being confused with chart entries were general in world terms, and not about Paint a Picture specifically. There is no point in continuing with this, as we're only going around in circles and wasting time. Yes, I did notice that you added the source in the discography for Paint a Picture, after the event! Editrite! (talk) 08:03, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Editrite!: I added the source merely to prove the point; I already knew it was correct, as I had looked up the release date when adding the specific date and supporting reference for Go. I didn't add the specific release date for Paint a Picture at the time, as I knew it had to have been on sale at least a day or two before 5 March 1990 (as sometimes happens - especially back then, with mid-week releases) to have debuted on the chart survey dated 5 March 1990 (reflecting sales from the previous week). I don't know why you're still disputing this - the facts are there, your memory about buying Paint a Picture in 1989 is wrong. Stating you appear to have a false memory in this instance does not suggest your memory is bad for everything; everyone is subject to false memories, and I even have a few myself. The excerpt from the article you have quoted, with March 1990 in brackets, does not suggest to me that the album was recorded in March 1990. I have seen many instances where an album's release date appears alongside the title in brackets on an artist's Wikipedia page. You're welcome to re-word this section of the article, if you wish - I didn't write this part of it. But please leave the release month as is. If you have something more tangible than a memory, and what the copyright and publishing dates on the album say, to support your claim that the album was released in 1989, then by all means, reveal them.Nqr9 (talk) 12:53, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Clearly, I'm not disputing the sources you have, or I would have reverted your edits again. However, by your own admission, even they don't agree on the release date. I also note that your ARIA source is not from the official ARIA website. As regards promo CDs, they are given away by record companies to selected media (especially radio stations) and record stores, to help promote a new release, anywhere from weeks to months in advance of the official release. That's one reason I don't accept that my memory is wrong. Editrite! (talk) 01:00, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Editrite!: The image I uploaded is from The ARIA Report. These are not uploaded on the ARIA site, but are available via subscription (and these older issues can be purchased individually). It doesn't matter that the dates in The ARIA Report and the Australian Music Report differ - they are both from March 1990, which is what I have put. I'm well aware of what promo CD's are. Even if there was a promo for this album circulating in late 1989 (which I doubt), it wouldn't make a jot of difference, as release dates reflect the date that an album or single is commercially released; not when it a promo was pressed. Promo releases are not readily available to the public to purchase (and certainly weren't back then), and rarely in a shop. All of the evidence suggests your memory in this instance was off.Nqr9 (talk) 08:32, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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