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Hello everyone,

I am nominationg to delete Indore–Ajmer Link Express, Indore–Bandra Express, Indore–Surat Express, Rajendra Nagar Patna – Indore Express, Indore–Jaipur Express via Ajmer because they are a reglar trains.

Ujjain - Bhopal passenger, Bhopal–Pratapgarh Express, Indore–Jabalpur Intercity Express, Jabalpur – Indore Overnight Express,Indore–Delhi Sarai Rohilla Express. These pages already exsist. Thank you.

Jaywardhan (talk) 20:20, July 14, 2017 (IST)

wikiproject india meeting never gonna happen. we can do a wikiproject ir meeting. pinging Field Marshal Aryan ❯❯❯   S A H A 13:38, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ArnabSaha, Hey I didn't receive your ping because you added the ping after you singed it. Regarding the meet, I am willing to do a chat based meet only. This community (WP:IRW) is too small for anything like that. Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 18:18, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Field Marshal Aryan, ok then no problem. but where to do? WP:Discord. ❯❯❯   S A H A 18:25, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ArnabSaha, Sure. Field Marshal (talk) 18:26, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Area 51 Machan, Suvadeep Saha56, SHISHIR DUA, Feroze Ahmad 2, ImSonyR9, 123sarangi, and Jazze7: pinging for more opinion. ❯❯❯   S A H A 05:37, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decent is ur suggestion, I'd, indubitably, be available for chat based meetings.

Regards SHISHIR DUA (talk) 10:23, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SHISHIR DUA, thanks. we will try to conduct it asap ❯❯❯   S A H A 16:30, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I can also make myself available for a meeting. Please let me know. Radhamadhab Sarangi^{Talk|Contribs} 15:42, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

iaspostb□x 01:24, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Aya Syameimaru!: cool, no? Just curious, how did you find it? Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 05:35, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I found it at Template:Wikipedia ads and Template:Wikipedia ads/navbox. It's a cool ad. iaspostb□x 06:41, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Aya Syameimaru!, great! I just wanted to see how far this has reached. :-) Field Marshal (talk) 14:22, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello fellow editors ! I have a doubt regarding inclusion of individual articles on normal passenger trains (which are ~ 15,000 in India). For example articles like Indore–Ajmer_Link_Express, Rajendra_Nagar_Patna–Indore_Express. These both examples are completely normal trains, which clear fails WP:GNG and their is no other subject specific guidelines for trains (that I am able to find). Most of these articles (that I have gone through) are unsourced or poorly sourced stubs. I believe that these articles should not be included on English Wikipedia, this may also be a case of WP:NOTTRAVEL. Can someone provide their views about it and what is the general consensus regarding it ? Thanks. Zoodino (talk) 15:50, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Zoodino. We don't get a lot of visitors here! Unfortunately I won't be able to respond fully right now as I'm about to go to sleep (IST). I would try to answer that question in my full capacity tomorrow. Until then, I would suggest you to have a look at this discussion that took place over here over a decade ago. Warm regards, Field Marshal (talk) 19:24, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Field Marshal Aryan: Thanks for guiding me to the archived discussion. But the discussion seems to be inadequate. The number of participants are very less. The statements such as "I feel each named train is notable just like people who say each village is notable", seems to be the editor's personal opinion without any backing from any of Wikipedia's notability policy. Their is also no clear result of the discussion.

Can we have a general discussion again (here only, just inputs from other editors) on the topic (if possible), so we can reach a general consensus whether such articles should be created or not. Zoodino (talk) 11:06, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Zoodino: Yep. The old discussion was pretty much inconclusive. We surely can, and seeing the huge mess this subject is, must have a discussion, even though not many are active here. I am pinging a few editors I know who can help (Vatsmaxed, ArnabSaha, Area 51 Machan, User:Naveenpf.

Some the named trains should stay like Lucknow Mail or the Gujarat Mail or even the legendary Deccan Queen while the slower passengers and MEMUs, as you said, are certainly not notable at all. The category that is the most problematic is Slow and fast passenger trains in India whereas some (actually, a lot) cleanup will be needed in Express trains in India. I will wait for more opinions now. Pinging the active editors of the old discussion: Logicwiki, Ekabhishek. To the people I pinged, sorry for disturbing: You have no obligation to participate if you are not willing. Thanks, Field Marshal (talk) 15:10, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Field Marshal Aryan: Thanks for being interested in the discussion and pinging other editors. As mentioned already by you, these stub articles seems to be mess. Cleaning up these articles will surely improve the project quality and unnecessary backlog. Waiting for more opinions. Zoodino (talk) 04:38, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Zoodino, I agree. Articles like these aren't required. Also we need to asses them individually. ❯❯❯   S A H A 07:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you can develop an agreed standard for individual trains beyond the GNG. In Europe and the Americas named passenger trains generally meet that standard with ease, but we don't have articles on unnamed services between cities. I'm not familiar with sources for Indian railways so I can't speak to what the coverage looks like. Mackensen (talk) 19:48, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think this WikiProject could benefit from coordinators who would help in the maintenance and upkeep of the wikiproject along with providing assistance to the members. At any given time, there should be a maximum of two coordinators. This will also, in a way, ensure that the project doesn't go dead like it was previously. Interested editors may enlist their names below and we can conduct a voting process. Note: This is starting out as a test; If enough people oppose having any coordinators at all, this whole thing will be scrapped. Pinging ArnabSaha as it is mainly his idea. Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 16:28, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Agree ❯❯❯   S A H A 16:51, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This article should be restored back to it's original name and data.It is a dedicated article of this 2 series narrow gauge diesel locomotives of Indian railways because there are not much information to make dedicated article of this 2 series locomotives. That is why this 2 series locomotives data have been combined together to make one article. There is no need of making article of narrow gauge locomotives of India. Narrow gauge locomotives are already added in 2 articles Locomotives of India and List of diesel locomotives of India. Steam and battery power locomotives of Indian railways will added in 2 separate articles. I think you will understood my point and restored the article back to its original name and data.Suvadeep Saha56 (talk) 12:04, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that there is not sufficient information available to create a dedicated articles of each of this "ZDM and NDM" locomotives. But that could not be reason for creating a special article for these 2 only. Even less information is available for narrow gauge battery and even for narrow gauge steam not much info is available, say for eg of BLR (Barsi light railways) locos. Regarding the "There is no need of making article of narrow gauge locomotives of India", the same can be said for ZDM and NDM too, they could be a part of Locomotives of India and List of diesel locomotives of India too, which they already are. Strictly speaking, we should have had, only Locomotives of India article and the individual loco articles. But in recent past, intermediate articles, such as List of diesel locomotives of India and List of electric locomotives of India etc were created. Considering all these, I preferred to rename the article to current as kind of compromise. Hope you understand, if you still dis-agree, then you can always continue this discussion on wikiproject talk page, let consensus decide over there. Vatsmaxed (talk) 12:33, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I think that you should discuss about it first before you move this page. No, it is not same because there is no dedicated article for this two series locomotives. It's better to restore the page back to its original name because it is a dedicated article of that 2 series narrow gauge diesel locomotives of Indian railway. Battery power and steam power locomotives of Indian railway should have separate articles like List of diesel locomotives of India and List of electric locomotives of India. If you want you can create separate article for narrow gauge battery and steam locomotives of India but restore the original article. I think its better if you should restore the article back to it's original structure and open a discussion in Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian railways and based on the discussion there you should change the name.Suvadeep Saha56 (talk) 12:59, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Suvadeep Saha56, I agree with Vatsmaxed here. The previous title would not have been able to accommodate the battery and steam based narrow gauge locomotives which don't have enough data to be warranted a separate article. The current title seems apt as we are not limited to two locomotive classes which anyways fall under the current title category. Also, yea, the discussion should be shifted to WikiProject Indian railways for greater visibility. Regards, Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 14:04, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Moved the discussion here from my talk page. Better this stays here so it is easier to find in future. Vatsmaxed (talk) 14:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]