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Hello to the Wikipedia powers that be! I originated this article and was hoping to write about the reviving of its use for 2020 by Bret Baier, as several articles were written about it, including articles from Newsweek and The Hill. It looks like I have to get approval to edit the article because I have made less than 500 edits.[[User:JimmyPiersall|JimmyPiersall]] ([[User talk:JimmyPiersall|talk]]) 17:33, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello to the Wikipedia powers that be! I originated this article and was hoping to write about the reviving of its use for 2020 by Bret Baier, as several articles were written about it, including articles from Newsweek and The Hill. It looks like I have to get approval to edit the article because I have made less than 500 edits.[[User:JimmyPiersall|JimmyPiersall]] ([[User talk:JimmyPiersall|talk]]) 17:33, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
:{{hidden ping|JimmyPiersall}}You would most likely just have to request edits here on this talk page on the form "please change X to Y". You could also copy it over to your sandbox and request that your changes be implemented. It is possible to request an extended-confirmed status at [[WP:PERM]], but it is rarely granted. – '''[[User:Þjarkur|Thjarkur]]''' [[User talk:Þjarkur|(talk)]] 17:38, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
:{{hidden ping|JimmyPiersall}}You would most likely just have to request edits here on this talk page on the form "please change X to Y". You could also copy it over to your sandbox and request that your changes be implemented. It is possible to request an extended-confirmed status at [[WP:PERM]], but it is rarely granted. – '''[[User:Þjarkur|Thjarkur]]''' [[User talk:Þjarkur|(talk)]] 17:38, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks! [[User:JimmyPiersall|JimmyPiersall]] ([[User talk:JimmyPiersall|talk]]) 18:42, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Revision as of 18:43, 9 January 2020

Deletion of questions

There was a who and whom question in the first paragraph. I deleted both. This change was made to the article on July 18, 2018; after Donald Trump himself talked about the "trump derangement syndrome" on a twitter post. The purpose of this change was to make the article seem more dubious and wasn't directed at the article itself but coincides with the publication of the twitter post. This is an obvious attempt but regarding whoever made the "whom" and "who" change; there are many references to check in the bottom of the page. There is a journal paper which did a meta analytic study confirming bias on both sides and talks about this derangement syndrome, if someone is interested check on google scholar. I'm not citing it as I don't feel it to be that important for my time. You can add it in reference, just follow wiki citation rules. DOI: 10.2139/ssrn.2952510

not signing my post, someone edit the formatting. thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmraihan (talk • contribs) 18 July 2018 14:43 (UTC)

Trump's abuse of a term and subjagation of it is not a reference to the derivation of that term, first coined to describe Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama Haters, then cultist Trump Lovers.

HDS and it's consequent conditions are real. Those suffering them should seek help. It's available. Through Obamacare, even. Plain Dark Sedan (talk) 16:37, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lede relies on Op-Ed pieces

Curious as to why this article's lede, which undoubtedly has numerous watchers, is allowed to rely on 3 sources that are clearly opinion and not news stories.

This may be a difficult topic to cover without relying on opinion pieces but if that's the case then it should be using attributions and not speaking in the voice of Wikipedia. Slywriter (talk) 22:14, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. None of the authors qualify as WP:RS in psychiatry, psychology or sociology, and they are expressing evaluative opinions rather than factual claims. WP:NPOV stipulates lede should be clarified to specify partisan opinions where appropriate (including contrary opinions for balance), or they should be removed. Watchman21 (talk) 14:16, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A satirical term derived by a clinical psychologist to describe Hillary haters (HDS), then Obama Haters(ODS), and, finally, Trump Lovers (TDS).

As is typical, unoriginal right singers plagiarized the term. Plain Dark Sedan (talk) 16:39, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 December 2019

Revert Chicago Tribune line-

Also in July 2018, Eric Zorn stated in the Chicago Tribune that "'Trump Derangement Syndrome' afflicts Trump supporters more than it does critics of the president" as it is "the delusion suffered by those who still think he’s going to make this country a better place for average people."

It's an opinion of the columnist without any factual basis. This article is already loaded with weasel words, it doesn't need pure conjecture to boot Slywriter (talk) 21:03, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Another biased wiki article

Unsurprisingly, this article is again completely skewed towards "conspiracy theory" type labeling. Even mainstream sources disagree with the skewness of this article:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/01/03/its_worse_than_bush_derangement_syndrome__132696.html

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-men/201901/is-trump-derangement-syndrome-real-mental-condition

Have fun "unbiased" editors! 2601:602:9200:1310:C1E3:118A:73EB:2BA2 (talk) 18:31, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would also add: https://psmag.com/news/research-suggests-trumps-election-has-been-detrimental-to-many-americans-mental-health
Including many of the sublinks, linking to peer-reviewed studies, testimonial claims by experts, suggesting that this is a definable clinical entity. Journalists do not qualify as reliable sources in refuting the existence of a purported psychiatric condition. Watchman21 (talk) 08:42, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There's not much sense in crying about a satirical term first generated in response to psychologically unhinged haters of Hillary Clinton, for whom this term was originally derived as a description of. Afterward,it was modified to describe Obama Haters, then Trump Lovers.

It's an inherently biased term regardless of use, so your complaining is absurd to say the least. Plain Dark Sedan (talk) 16:32, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism

This term was originally coined to describe CONSERVATIVES, for their unreasonable and baseless hatred of Hillary Rodham Clinton. It was adapted to describe the same in relation to Barack Hussein Obama. After being used to describe slobbering Republicans in their cilt-like worship of Donald John Trump, Trump cult followers plagiarized the term to describe people who did not spend their lives worshipping Trump. Plain Dark Sedan (talk) 12:40, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 December 2019

Remove the link on Michael Goodwin in the "Examples of Use" section. It links to the article of an architect of the same name who died in 2011, not the presently active New York Post columnist who is being referred to who doesn't presently have a Wikipedia article. Deep Gabriel (talk) 01:12, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 DoneJonesey95 (talk) 04:17, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 December 2019

Remove the text below as it a columnist's opinion whose only purpose is to insult one side of a political debate (yes, I appreciate the irony given the topic):

 Also in July 2018, Eric Zorn stated in the Chicago Tribune that "'Trump Derangement Syndrome' afflicts Trump supporters more than it does critics of the president" as it is "the delusion suffered by those who still think he's going to make this country a better place for average people".[29]

Slywriter (talk) 01:36, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Unless a sourced statement is challenged presenting undue weight, which this is not, it is still a valid piece of information to include. Almost all usages of a term such as this will be, by the very nature of the term, opinions. Removing them solely because they are opinions would leave nothing left. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 03:40, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discredit criticisms

Can we get a single source for this claim? "The use of the term has been called part of a broader GOP strategy to discredit criticisms of Trump's actions, as a way of "reframing" the discussion by suggesting his political opponents are incapable of accurately perceiving the world." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.27.9.97 (talk) 03:22, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This source is used to support it, which is then reflected in the lead, a summary of the article:
PaleoNeonate – 04:37, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Add Bret Baier's use

Hello to the Wikipedia powers that be! I originated this article and was hoping to write about the reviving of its use for 2020 by Bret Baier, as several articles were written about it, including articles from Newsweek and The Hill. It looks like I have to get approval to edit the article because I have made less than 500 edits.JimmyPiersall (talk) 17:33, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You would most likely just have to request edits here on this talk page on the form "please change X to Y". You could also copy it over to your sandbox and request that your changes be implemented. It is possible to request an extended-confirmed status at WP:PERM, but it is rarely granted. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:38, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! JimmyPiersall (talk) 18:42, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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