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Saff V., In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ruhollah_Khomeini&diff=922852022&oldid=922850118 this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ruhollah_Khomeini&diff=922853484&oldid=922852022 this] edit, you removed a reliable source and well-sourced statements from the [[Ruhollah Khomeini]] article. Please stop or you'll be reported. [[User:Stefka Bulgaria|Stefka Bulgaria]] ([[User talk:Stefka Bulgaria|talk]]) 19:25, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
Saff V., In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ruhollah_Khomeini&diff=922852022&oldid=922850118 this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ruhollah_Khomeini&diff=922853484&oldid=922852022 this] edit, you removed a reliable source and well-sourced statements from the [[Ruhollah Khomeini]] article. Please stop or you'll be reported. [[User:Stefka Bulgaria|Stefka Bulgaria]] ([[User talk:Stefka Bulgaria|talk]]) 19:25, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
:{{re|Stefka Bulgaria}} - Pray explain to me about how [[Amir Taheri]]'s or Marvin Yakos' self-published work is a RS. I am inches away from dragging you to AE for a TBan. [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style="color: red">&#x222F;</span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:#070">WBG</b></span>]][[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<sup><span style="color:#00F">converse</span></sup>]] 12:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
:{{re|Stefka Bulgaria}} - Pray explain to me about how [[Amir Taheri]]'s or Marvin Yakos' self-published work is a RS. I am inches away from dragging you to AE for a TBan. [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style="color: red">&#x222F;</span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:#070">WBG</b></span>]][[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<sup><span style="color:#00F">converse</span></sup>]] 12:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
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{{re|Winged Blades of Godric}} When Saff V. pointed out that the Xulon publication was self-published (which I didn't know when I included the source in the article), then I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ruhollah_Khomeini&diff=922856887&oldid=922856439 removed] the source. As for the Adler & Adler publication, as far as I know, that's not a self-published source. Both sources were used to support the following statement:

{{talk quote|"One of Khomeini's first acts when he took power was to lower the age of marriage from eighteen to nine years old for girls, and down to fifteen years old for boys. Khomeini told the Muslim faithful that marrying a girl before she begins menstruation was a “divine blessing.” “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” These new laws also encourage polygamy and prevented women from leaving abusive husbands."|}}

In addition to those two sources, I also included the following sources to support that statement (and, as far as I can see, they are not self-published):

* {{tq|"Under Khomeini, child marriage was allowed once more, with the age of marriage being reduced from 18 to nine for girls (revised, after protests, to 13) and 15 for boys. New laws encourage polygamy and prevented women from leaving abusive husbands. The husband’s right of unilateral divorce was reinstated. New policies encouraged temporary marriage as ‘morally sanctioned substitute for Western dating’, with trial ‘sigheh’ marriages recommended for high-school students, and sex workers being invited to enter short-term marriage contracts with returning war veterans."|}}[https://books.google.com/books?id=dBoj3c5VPAMC&pg=PA166&dq=khomeini+child+marriage&hl=es&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT0I6u8q_lAhWx6uAKHeGcB70Q6AEIPDAC#v=onepage&q=khomeini%20child%20marriage&f=false I.B. Tauris ]

* {{tq|"Khomeini called marriage to a girl before her first menstrual period “a diving blessing,” and he advised the faithful: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” This practice continues to this day, despite the severe injuries girls often incur from early intercourse and childbirth.|}} [https://books.google.com/books?id=eanFm7hiM1cC&pg=PA48&lpg=PA48&dq=khomeini+children+bride&source=bl&ots=qesrR0VfWr&sig=ACfU3U1DBTomKEamRum9I1FhdujI-qcalg&hl=es&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjB48TJ76_lAhWSEBQKHSnXDXs4ChDoATAJegQICBAB#v=onepage&q=khomeini%20children%20bride&f=false Encounter Books]

[[User:Stefka Bulgaria|Stefka Bulgaria]] ([[User talk:Stefka Bulgaria|talk]]) 17:08, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

Hello Saff V.,

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The Bugle: Issue CLXI, September 2019

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Anan Lestaluhu

I already add the lead to Anan Lestaluhu. Can I remove the tag now? I forgot to remove =Anan Lestaluhu= tag. Wira rhea (talk) 05:30, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

definitely Yes !Saff V. (talk) 05:32, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Wira rhea (talk) 05:33, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Aftab (sunshine)

Please explain to me how this edit isn't a violation of WP:NOR and WP:V. Vanamonde (Talk) 14:36, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanamonde93: before press publish change button, I forgot to check to be sure that this source is there. I thought the source to be there because it might be the Chelcheragh operation had been referred to it. Of course, (before I added it to lead), Aftab operation had been also used on the body of the article, which had the source. Excuse me anyway, I have to be more careful.Saff V. (talk) 04:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You do realise the first of those sources is an opinion piece, and the second is a testimonial? Meaning that neither of them are reliable for anything other than the author's opinion? Vanamonde (Talk) 14:33, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Vanamonde93: if I were aware about their reliability, I never took them to RSN.I really didn’t know they are not reliable.Saff V. (talk) 18:37, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well, keep it in mind. A critical part of what makes a source reliable is whether there is some sort of editorial oversight independent of the author. Most news sources have editors; most academic papers have peer review; books from good publishers have the publisher's editorial staff. Opinion pieces don't have that. They are reliable for the authors views, but only occasionally reliable for factual information, and that only when the authors themselves are notable/reliable commentators. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:19, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Timeline of computing 2020–29

Hello Saff V.. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Timeline of computing 2020–29, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: I can't imagine how the context could be any clearer, and similar timelines are linked at the bottom of the page Thank you. Tracy Von Doom (talk) 11:20, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrolled granted

Hi Saff V., I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Chetsford (talk) 16:05, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I am blocked indefinitely from Arabic Wikipedia because my username indicates that I am from a place (Shara'b As Salam District) which is not acceptable in their policies.. Thanks for your work in Persian Wikipedia!. I am really grateful of your work.--SharabSalam (talk) 07:14, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


The Bugle: Issue CLXII, October 2019

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@Serial Number 54129: Thanks alot for your favor!Saff V. (talk) 11:54, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Saff V., In this and this edit, you removed a reliable source and well-sourced statements from the Ruhollah Khomeini article. Please stop or you'll be reported. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 19:25, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Stefka Bulgaria: - Pray explain to me about how Amir Taheri's or Marvin Yakos' self-published work is a RS. I am inches away from dragging you to AE for a TBan. WBGconverse 12:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Winged Blades of Godric: When Saff V. pointed out that the Xulon publication was self-published (which I didn't know when I included the source in the article), then I removed the source. As for the Adler & Adler publication, as far as I know, that's not a self-published source. Both sources were used to support the following statement:

"One of Khomeini's first acts when he took power was to lower the age of marriage from eighteen to nine years old for girls, and down to fifteen years old for boys. Khomeini told the Muslim faithful that marrying a girl before she begins menstruation was a “divine blessing.” “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” These new laws also encourage polygamy and prevented women from leaving abusive husbands."

In addition to those two sources, I also included the following sources to support that statement (and, as far as I can see, they are not self-published):

  • "Under Khomeini, child marriage was allowed once more, with the age of marriage being reduced from 18 to nine for girls (revised, after protests, to 13) and 15 for boys. New laws encourage polygamy and prevented women from leaving abusive husbands. The husband’s right of unilateral divorce was reinstated. New policies encouraged temporary marriage as ‘morally sanctioned substitute for Western dating’, with trial ‘sigheh’ marriages recommended for high-school students, and sex workers being invited to enter short-term marriage contracts with returning war veterans."I.B. Tauris
  • "Khomeini called marriage to a girl before her first menstrual period “a diving blessing,” and he advised the faithful: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” This practice continues to this day, despite the severe injuries girls often incur from early intercourse and childbirth. Encounter Books

Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 17:08, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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