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Here in the list of highest grossing malayalam films, movie Madhura Raja is missing from the list. The movie has collected 100 crores gross. Please update the list. Sources which proves that the movie has done 100crores is given below for the references. Thanks. ^{[1] [2] [3] [4]} Ambeinghari (talk) 01:34, 1 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All WP:PRIMARY sources. Promotional figures claimed by producer himself are not added into Wikipedia. Continental Rift (talk) 13:31, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I could see all box office figures in this list are released by producers themselves. In that case how can we have other movies figures in this list ? Please check. Tousifmt (talk) 06:58, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Admin brother, can you please say any malayalam movie boxoffice collection that reported by online news portals... Malayalam movies collection are always announce by producer himself. You can check it bro. Anyway i know you dont change anything from this list, but i am just saying it. Anyway Lucifer 175cr 😂 will not believe by fans themselves, 175cr collection 25cr business total 200cr.... Nowadays wikipedia has become fun.... Anyway i am thinking when you will block me from wikipedia Psychotraveller (talk) 18:12, 28 July 2019 (UTC) . Bro One more doudt is indianexpress also fake... For me its a reliable source, but according to you what,[reply]

https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/malayalam/best-of-malayalam-cinema-2019-so-far-5822693/ Psychotraveller (talk) 18:12, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Members in this panel can you please cross check this provided source for MadhuraRaja. Psychotraveller (talk) 07:28, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What is the problem for Indian express sorce. It purely says that the movie collected 100cr then what is the problem Psychotraveller (talk) 07:31, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. Melmann 14:31, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here comes a frustrated Mammootty fanboy called Psychotraveller who makes an odd and misleading claim about Lucifer's 175 crore but has no shame in believing Madhura Raja 100 crore. LOL. You first go cross check the gross of MadhuraRaja with various trade sources from tracked centers. I know this guy is desperate and has no shame, so I am writing this for people who are reading this conversation. Read this paragraph, this Madhura Raja don't even have the collection of Munthirivallikal Thalirkkumbol in tracked centers, that means it's gross is less than 50 crore. As said there, it has not even have grossed 1 crore in Kochi multiplexes (a major center in Kerala, equivalent to Chennai gross for Tamil movies). If this film cant't even be compared with Munthirivallikal Thalirkkumbol, see how ridiculous it is to compare it with the Malayalam top grosser Lucifer. 2405:204:D209:F5CB:BC2F:A8B3:7D27:7C5E (talk) 17:09, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Add kurukshetra movie box office collection Yogeshsgowda (talk) 10:03, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Yogeshsgowda: Are you making a request of other editors' time? If so, bringing quality references might make this process go faster, instead of putting the burden onto others to research the changes you are asking to be made. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:24, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The villian movie box office update Yogeshsgowda (talk) 10:06, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Yogeshsgowda: See above response. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:25, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1iy5U9HrS1/?igshid=rztqcuae3h34 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yogeshsgowda (talk • contribs) 14:35, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's not a suitable reference. We want to see published content from mainstream publications, like major news websites, not a random image you found on an unverified Instagram account. See WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources. Also, please don't create new discussion sections. Just respond below if you have anything else to add. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:05, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For the movies Baahubali: The Beginning and Baahubali 2: The Conclusion, the primary language is Telugu. Not Telugu, Tamil. The movie is made in Telugu and dubbed to other language versions and was released simultaneously.

Like how the primary language for 2.0 movie is Tamil, even though it was released all over Indian in dubbed versions simultaneously.

Except for Baahubali movies, all other movies in the list has only one primary language. Kindly, please change the primary language for both Baahubali movies to Telugu. Ambarish702 (talk) 00:05, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: @Ambarish702: You're four years late to raise this point. This was settled a long time ago. The Baahubali films were simultaneously shot in multiple languages, and we do not place undue focus on the ethnic industry that created the film. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:17, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In the Highest Grossing Telugu movies, Magadheera was removed just because IBTimes referred Andhraboxoffice in its content. Is it correct to remove the movie itself if the standard source refers to another source? There are numerous sources available substantiating the gross collections of Magadheera. But user Panda619 is interested towards deleting the movie just because of his Tamil bias and Telugu hatred. Lot of editors having Tamil ethnicity are trying to demean the recent success of Telugu movies. Why Wikipedia is tolerating such bias editing and giving Barnstar tags to such editors? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.237.50 (talk) 12:20, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Stop the baseless accusations and read WP:FRUIT -- Panda619 (talk) 12:31, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I also observe that editors of Tamil ethnicity are doing biased editing for Telugu movies. You guys are trying to project that Tamil film industry is bigger than Telugu film industry. By your biased editing in Wikipedia, you are trying to manipulate but you guys cannot do so any longer as the Telugu film industry has already overtaken the Tamil industry long back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.237.253.151 (talk) 14:49, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what value any of these distracting, unsubstantiated accusations have here. If there is a better source for Magadheera, then bring it. That's the issue at hand, right? Andhdraboxoffice.com is a faceless blog run by unknown parties and we do not use blogs as references, even if news sites choose to publish their figures on a slow news day. We care what established mainstream sources with clear journalistic and editorial policies say when they've used their own journalistic methods to arrive at an estimate. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:09, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the sources which claim that Magadheera's collections as 150 crores. https://www.ibtimes.co.in/rangasthalam-11-day-box-office-collection-ram-charan-film-crosses-rs-150-crore-766260 https://www.msn.com/en-in/entertainment/southcinema/aravinda-sametha-18-day-box-office-collection-jr-ntr-film-turns-fifth-all-time-highest-telugu-film/ar-BBP3s1b — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.254.29 (talk) 04:26, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why no one is interested in adding Magadheera to the Telugu list after the above mentioned sources are clearly showing the gross collections. It seems editors are more interested in removing Telugu movies rather than adding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.237.237.204 (talk) 04:19, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NODEADLINE. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:29, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnic Tamil editors are not even interested in adding Saaho, even though it is eligible to be added to the list because the movie got originated from Telugu industry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.237.224.212 (talk) 12:40, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

On 2nd June, why editor EelamStyleZ changed the statement "It is sometimes colloquially known as "Kollywood", a portmanteau of Kodambakkam and Hollywood." to the statement "The Tamil film industry earns the highest overall worldwide gross collections after Bollywood films." without giving substantial evidence. Is it not biased editing towards Tamil movies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.237.224.212 (talk) 13:02, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Talk pages are not soapboxes. Stop stirring up this ethnic-war crap. You are totally speculating as to why X was not done or why Y has been done. None of it is constructive. The most likely answer to your questions: this is a volunteeer run project, there is no deadline, and perhaps editors haven't gotten to it yet. If you have a specific question for EelamStyleZ, go ask EelamStyleZ. But if you continue the unfounded ethnic bias accusations, it will very quickly be considered disruptive. And be forewarned that the community doesn't tolerate personal attacks. Unfounded accusations of bias or hostility toward any ethnicity would be considered a personal attack. Chillax. Incidentally, I have reverted EeelamStyleZ's change and have added Magadheera to the Telugu list. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:46, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Cyphoidbomb. It is not about personal attacks. I do not understand why the Telugu film industry is sometimes demeaned and Tamil industry is boasted by the editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.237.224.212 (talk) 15:26, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody at Wikipedia is deliberately demeaning the Telugu film industry. Also, it has just come to my attention that the Magadheera figures are in dispute, so be prepared for some pushback on that 150 crore figure. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:50, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since there are many different contradicting reports, 80 crore (12), 104 crore (1 2) and here (104 crore), an article where the director Rajamouli himself is talking about inflated Magadheera box office figures and confirming it was inflated (video). So I have removed it from the list because of the disputed figures. Panda619 (talk) 07:23, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have listened to the video posted by Panda619 in Telugu, the language which I can understand. In the video, Rajamouli never mentioned that Boxoffice collections of Magadheera were inflated but he was talking about the number of 100 days centres were inflated. hindustantimes.com wrote the article without understanding video content but by just seeing the subtitles. In the video, the subtitles are not matching the words what Rajamouli spoke about. Regarding different numbers mentioned by different sources, there are 3 numbers, share, net and gross, (share<net<gross) which sometimes the media persons interpret differently and write it in their own versions. I can bring hundreds of sources for other movies, where there are conflicting numbers by different media sources. Shall we delete all those movies from the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.237.223.167 (talk) 02:36, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's just your assumption, all three different figure sources clearly says GROSS and Rajamouli does mention box office, he talks about both box office and days, here another more descriptive article, which states what he says "I had previously told Allu Aravind (the producer) that, I am not happy with fake box-office figures and also with extension of the movie’s run even after it became a successful venture. So we agreed on certain terms and conditions. But however, later on, Allu Aravind went back on his words and there was an inflation of the box-office figures and a forceful extension in the number of days that the movie was running in theatres.", "But even though 80 percent of the figures quoted were true, there was an inflation of up to 20 percent. This inflated number was my main concern and I thought it was ingenuine." Panda619 (talk) 07:19, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here is one source showing the original highest grossing Tamil movies list in which Vishwaroopam is not listed at all and the remaining figures also not matching to numbers in Wikipedia. Based on these can we delete all the movies from the list? Tamil.samayam.com is the Tamil version of Times of India. I can bring many such standard sources with numbers not matching with Wikipedia numbers. https://tamil.samayam.com/tamil-cinema/movie-news/list-of-a-top-10-tamil-movies-of-all-time-worldwide-box-office-collection/articleshow/68112250.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.237.223.167 (talk) 02:58, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, of course you can bring many sources with numbers not matching with Wikipedia numbers, because that's how bad the Indian cinema's box office reporting and journalism is, all are inaccurate, here are some articles talking about issues in India's BO reports (1, 2, 3). I personally do think wikipedia should delete this page itself. anyway my issue with Magadheera is difference in figures are big, non-reliable sources, circular reporting and Rajamouli's statements and just because that above samayam article doesn't list Vishwaroopam (bilingual film), doesn't mean it did not gross what other sources say. Panda619 (talk) 07:51, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What about 2.0 collections? There is huge difference in the numbers between the source I provided and the Wikipedia. Why can't we delete 2.0 from the list? There were lot of sources available saying that Magadheera was all time blockbuster movie in south India and it collected a share of 84 crores and it was later released in Japan, where it recorded a massive hit. The 84 crore+ share (not Net) itself will come around 150 crores of gross. So, there is no point in deleting Magadheera at all. Again I am reiterating Rajamouli's statements did not talk about the collections at all. It talked about 100 days centres only. Is behindwoods.com a reliable source? It is a blog. It wrote in its own version by interpreting the subtitles in the interview. Listen to the interview carefully with the help of a guy who knows Telugu. Rajamouli did not utter a single word about inflation of box office numbers.

Nope, the above sources doesn't support what you say and for 2.0, a range could be given, but cannot be removed because different figures are from so called reliable sources, unlike Magadheera where figures are from non-reliable sources, circular reporting (there is no single source which states 150cr before andhraboxoffice's 2015 july report) and walking-back by director. Panda619 (talk) 09:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Change the collections of 2.0 to the range of 653-800 crores. I am again reiterating the interview did not mention about inflation of box office numbers. See the dates of sources, you have mentioned, they are published based on the interview's subtitles. That is why I am asking you to take the help of a Telugu interpreter because we are deriving everything here based on the Telugu interview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.234.32 (talk) 09:47, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

even if what you say is true, doesn't gonna change fact that there are conflicting sources, figures, non-reliable sources and circular reports. Panda619 (talk) 09:53, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why Sahoo collection was left although reports mention its has cross 350 CR ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.158.111.227 (talk) 05:06, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What's Sahoo? Do you mean Saaho? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:01, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please add Kurukshetra (2019 film) to the Kannada list whose box office exceeded 100 crore last week. Source: [1] [2] 2405:204:5602:F514:68CC:942:344F:2A2F (talk) 08:50, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: FilmiBeat is not a reliable source for financial data and I don't like to use slideshows (Asianet) as references, since they lack the journalistic weight of a properly written article, and could have been assembled by an intern, for all we know. I am also concerned because of this reference, which suggests that fans are potentially responsible for generating the 100 crore claim. While it is certainly possible that the film has grossed 100 crore, I'd rather we wait until other sources support this figure. When Wikipedia becomes the source of breaking news, lazy journalists sometimes copy this data and perpetuate information that might not be accurate. Since there is no deadline, it won't kill us to wait. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:01, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]