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The presence of a bar chart in the Islamophobia article indicating the percentage level of Islamophobia among the general public in different countries has become the object of opposing views and reverts. The sticking point is the presence of data from two different sources: a Pew research study in the case of ten European countries, and data from two other sources in the case of levels of Islamophobia in the U.S. and Canada.

The combination of data assembled from different sources into a single bar chart purporting to compare the data, is fraught with problems of interpretation and possible statistical bias, even if a trained statistician did it.

But this chart was not compiled by a trained statistician. It was created by a Wikipedia editor (or editors), combining these data in a way that suggests comparability of the underlying percentages. This is a direct violation of WP:SYNTH, which is not permitted. An example of the combined bar chart can be seen in section “Public opinion” of version 868258579 of the article.

The North American and European data coming from different sources cannot be combined in a single chart because it is both statistically unsound, and it violates policy. No reliable source exists combining these data in this way.

An alternative version of the article retains the bars for the European countries, and drops the North American data.

Comments from those trained in analysis and representation of statistical data, as well as those familiar with interpreting policy on original research and SYNTH would be most welcome. Mathglot (talk) 03:56, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The comments given in this version about temperature data from multiple sources in no way supports the multiple-source argument in the general case. Thermometers the world over wil record approximately the same temperature and no issue of data interpretation exists. Also, surveys of human opinion are vastly different types of data than temperature recorded by scientific instruments with no human input or interpretation needed. Mathglot (talk) 04:18, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Polls have different methodologies and different std. errs. O3000 (talk) 12:03, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article's lead does not seem to differentiate between a fear of Muslims as a collective group of people and criticism, legitimate and illegitimate, of the religion's doctrines. The leading sentence defining it, while sourced to three very reputable dictionaries, is so broad that it could very well account for legitimate & scholarly criticism as covered by Criticism of Islam. I will refrain from changing this myself for now because I don't want to create an edit war or a POV issue. Thanks, trainsandtech (talk) 07:09, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It does right in the head, in cursive. On that subject I notice you call it "ideology" so that tells something about your views. Just saying. // Liftarn (talk) 07:14, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It seems fine to me. I don't know that there is a lot of doctrine that is shared by all Muslims, just as there is little doctrine that is shared by all Christians. And the doctrines Muslims share, such as the existence of God, are often shared by other religious. TFD (talk) 00:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The whole page is a mess. It's mixing fear, hate and prejudice together. It needs an overhaul. Someone might hate islam but have no fear or prejudice of the ideology. The page needs taking out and rewriting, logically. PAC196060 (talk) 10:56, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, actually, that's not possible. "Hatred of Islam" is pretty much the dictionary definition of Islamophobia. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:08, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well, not only. Islamophobia is to Islam as antisemitism is to Judaism. // Liftarn (talk) 06:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not exactly. Jews are an ethnoreligious group. Muslims are not. Antisemitism typically has nothing to do with Judaism. Jayjg ^(talk) 14:11, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are entitled to your opinion even if it's wrong. But as you may have heard sometime Wikipedia operates on reliable sources so your personal opinions on the matter are irrelevant. // Liftarn (talk) 08:12, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#Islamophobia, Antisemitism, and other religious hate in "racism in X" articles may be of interest to talk page watchers here. The issue is whether to include Islamophobia, Antisemitism, and other religious hate in Racism in country X articles. Icewhiz (talk) 19:32, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]