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: {{ping|A Quest For Knowledge}}{{ping|AngusWOOF}}The Guardian specifically references the term in "The View: a good place to debunk Jenny McCarthy's autism quackery " https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jul/16/the-view-jenny-mccarthy-autism (6 July 2013). I don't know whether the rest of these are deemed Rel Sources but quackery features in the headlines of https://theweek.com/articles/462145/jenny-mccarthy-view-antivaccination-quackery and https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2013/07/18/abc-the-view-gives-jenny-mccarthy-platform-for-crackpot-autism-theories/OwZzcwYI1TNWm4kqfsn8bM/story.html.
: {{ping|A Quest For Knowledge}}{{ping|AngusWOOF}}The Guardian specifically references the term in "The View: a good place to debunk Jenny McCarthy's autism quackery " https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jul/16/the-view-jenny-mccarthy-autism (6 July 2013). I don't know whether the rest of these are deemed Rel Sources but quackery features in the headlines of https://theweek.com/articles/462145/jenny-mccarthy-view-antivaccination-quackery and https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2013/07/18/abc-the-view-gives-jenny-mccarthy-platform-for-crackpot-autism-theories/OwZzcwYI1TNWm4kqfsn8bM/story.html.
: This article doesn't use the term quackery but refers to her views as hogwash https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/1/9/16868216/oprah-winfrey-pseudoscience
: This article doesn't use the term quackery but refers to her views as hogwash https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/1/9/16868216/oprah-winfrey-pseudoscience
:: It's more that the category itself is non-neutral like "fake televangelists". Category was recently created (4 January) [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 19:45, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

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vaccine bias

Why do you have extensive quotes from vaccine proponents but never once do you list MDs, PhDs, or other researchers who agree with her opinion on vaccine harm? Why do you not cite the Zimmerman quote and testimony that clearly links vaccines to some cases of autism? I thought Wiki was objective but this is so slanted it reads like a NYT article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.168.112.125 (talk) 04:18, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because a large majority of doctors and other experts disagree with her, the idea is to explain what the scientific consensus on the issue is, not just to quote the rare scientist here or there who disagrees with this consensus. As for the Zimmerman quote, I don't know who Zimmerman is or what quote you are referring to, so I can't say if it should be in the article or not. Tornado chaser (talk) 05:14, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And this majority is not just some random occurrence. It exists because there is no evidence for such a link. Andrew Wakefield's original preliminary study with 12 patients was rigged, and studies since then say the link does not exist.
Whoever Zimmerman is or was, science is based on studies and not on quotes anyway. See ipse dixit. --Hob Gadling (talk) 05:28, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLP Violation with Category?

@JoBrodie:@AngusWOOF: I can't help but wonder if this is a WP:BLP violation.[1] Do we actually have reliable sources that label this article's topic as "autism quack" The word "quack" seems particularly unencyclopedic. Do reliable sources actually use this term when describing Jenny McCarthy? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 12:26, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@A Quest For Knowledge:@AngusWOOF:The Guardian specifically references the term in "The View: a good place to debunk Jenny McCarthy's autism quackery " https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jul/16/the-view-jenny-mccarthy-autism (6 July 2013). I don't know whether the rest of these are deemed Rel Sources but quackery features in the headlines of https://theweek.com/articles/462145/jenny-mccarthy-view-antivaccination-quackery and https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2013/07/18/abc-the-view-gives-jenny-mccarthy-platform-for-crackpot-autism-theories/OwZzcwYI1TNWm4kqfsn8bM/story.html.
This article doesn't use the term quackery but refers to her views as hogwash https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/1/9/16868216/oprah-winfrey-pseudoscience
It's more that the category itself is non-neutral like "fake televangelists". Category was recently created (4 January) AngusWOOF (barksniff) 19:45, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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