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:{{ping|Muhammed.suhail}} This reference has been mentioned at least four other times on this page, and you previously mentioned it on 20 November. Read the comments above if you want to understand why the source is problematic. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 08:21, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
:{{ping|Muhammed.suhail}} This reference has been mentioned at least four other times on this page, and you previously mentioned it on 20 November. Read the comments above if you want to understand why the source is problematic. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 08:21, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
I am not talking about Ramleela i am talking about The Great Father
In second para it shortly says about the movies that collected 50cr The Great Father is there in the list and it doesnt says that according to produver or actor [[User:Muhammed.suhail|Muhammed.suhail]] ([[User talk:Muhammed.suhail|talk]]) 09:45, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

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Mungarumale collected ₹75 crore

Information icon Hello, I'm Tevar shaa. I wanted to let you know that According to reports at that time, #Mungarumale was the first film to touch ₹50 crore and even within 300 days See this.[1] And ran for 1 year continuously in PVR with packed houses. And went on to run over 865 days and raked over ₹75 crore in its life time in #Karnataka. [2][3]

Actually the the Mungarumale collection is not announced by any primary sources like producer/actor/director/distributors, it is by critic, named C.H. Prahlada Rao, who told to "DNA" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tevar shaa (talk • contribs)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 November 2017

'Change the Worldwide gross' of Tamil film 'Mersal' from "200 Crores to 210 Crores" , the link is ' http://www.ibtimes.co.in/mersal-14-day-box-office-collection-ilayathalapathy-vijays-film-rs-210-crore-beat-vikram-record-747732 ' .. 183.78.95.2 (talk) 02:14, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I have no idea why I didn't highlight the row green in the first place, as there is enough sources to indicate that the film's general notability is only increasing, so I did that too. ToThAc (talk) 15:19, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

MERSAL

PLEASE UNDERLINE MERSAL MOVIE IN GREEN, because the movie is still running!!!!!!!

My 2nd request!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E5:D3CB:F001:51E8:ECC2:6941:CDB8 (talk) 09:33, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ToThAc (talk) 15:19, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 November 2017

Change the position of Tamil film 'Mersal' from 'no. 8 to no. 7' because it's Worldwide gross is higher than the film 'Dasavatharam' .. 183.78.95.233 (talk) 12:40, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thank you  — Ammarpad (talk) 22:01, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Malayalam movie Ramaleela

Malayalam movie Ramaleela has entered 59cr pls update that.. Ajayk97 (talk) 10:49, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Please provide a source for that. ToThAc (talk) 16:04, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mersal

Please update Mersal collection into 227 crore.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/mersal-box-office-collection-vijays-film-mints-rs-227-14-crore-worldwide-748516 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E5:D3CB:F001:541C:8796:AFDC:60F6 (talk) 12:33, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 November 2017

Please 'change the Worldwide gross' of Tamil film 'Mersal' from '210 Crore to 220 Crore' , the link is ' http://www.ibtimes.co.in/mersal-box-office-collection-vijays-film-mints-rs-227-14-crore-worldwide-748516 ' .. 183.78.95.73 (talk) 12:12, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: All Indian box office figures, including IBTimes, are estimates, so there is no reliability to presenting the difference between 210 Crore and 220 Crore as significant or that the new figure is more authoritative. See Indian cinema task force for more information. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:54, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 November 2017

Hi. I have been a editor of this wikipedia page before. Now I cant. Please let me edit. Thanks! R-360 (Creations) (talk) 02:13, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - the article is now under extended-confirmed protection. This permission is given to editors with 500 edits and 90 days tenure. I should note that, although unlikely, you could apply for these rights. Once you meet these requirements, you will be able to edit it again. If you have a specific request, please open a new one. Thanks. ProgrammingGeek talktome 02:45, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mersal

Hi guys, Please update mersal box office collection to 230 crore.


http://www.ibtimes.co.in/mersal-troubles-vijays-film-far-over-now-director-served-notice-story-theft-749056

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/mersal-box-office-collection-vijays-film-completes-25-days-business-gets-boost-adirindi-749016 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:77:6F2B:31E9:4D6D:C573:3B4E:B145 (talk) 11:08, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Maestro2016 (talk) 07:26, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 November 2017

'Change the Worldwide gross' of Tamil film 'Mersal' from '220 Crores to 230 Crores' , the links are, '[1]' and ' [2] .. 183.78.95.138 (talk) 05:17, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: There is no need to keep updating the estimated and unreliable gross receipts every week while the film is still in current release. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:26, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 November 2017

Please 'change the Worldwide gross' of Tamil film 'Kabali' from '45 Million US Dollar to 77 Million US Dollar' , the link is ' https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/05/11/armies-of-ajith-fans-mobilize-to-blast-vivegam-teaser-to-record-views/#3e18049816eb ' .. 183.78.95.171 (talk) 05:12, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: As mentioned in the edit summary, the most recent figure from International Business Times (IBT) puts Kabali's final worldwide gross at 286 crore in October 2017. IBT is the more reliable source according to ICTF FAQ, and IBT gives the most recent figure. And as mentioned on Kabali (film), higher estimates are inflated according to IBT. Maestro2016 (talk) 06:59, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Maestro2016: There is no "more reliable" here, with the exception being that I'm not a fan of Express Group (Financial Express / Indian Express), because they did a really piss-poor job of reporting the financial data, including "pre-release income" in the box office figures. They were complicit in the confusion and questionable data. 286 crore seems low if we consider Forbes put the figure higher than what Express Group was reporting. That said, if IBT is reporting a far lower worldwide gross, then the data should be presented in the form of a range as it was in this version of the article, i.e. from 286 crore to 499 crore. I'm unclear on why the range disappeared. If there is a wide discrepancy of opinion we should usually err on the side of ranges, rather than using either higher or lower absolutes. And in the table, it should be ranked based on the low number, since we know that it grossed at least 286 crore. There used to be a citation note that explained why the data was being presented in the form of a range. I'm not sure why it disappeared, but it presents necessary context and should be restored. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:08, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I've now restored the range and notes for Kabali. Maestro2016 (talk) 17:25, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Maestro2016: Thank you, sir. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:03, 15 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: already answered ProgrammingGeek talktome 16:40, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why Hindi movie collections are getting increased and Telugu Tamil movie collections are decreased

We can see Hindi movie gross collections are getting increased with some sources and Telugu and Tamil movie collections are getting decreased with some other sources even if some sources showing higher collections. Everyone in India knows that Baahubali - The Beginning is the fourth highest grossing movie in India but it got relegated. Similarly, collections of Baahubali - The Conclusion are also got reduced. It is strategic demeaning of regional cinema. Please restore the original list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.49.82.85 (talk) 02:57, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It was lowered because later reports from the same source (IB Times) lowered the film's final worldwide estimate. However, I've found a more recent IB Times report that increased its estimate slightly, which would put it back into the top 5. Maestro2016 (talk) 13:58, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mersal

please update mersal box office collection into 235 crore worldwide.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/forget-mersal-its-time-celebrate-5-years-vijays-thuppakki-749294 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E5:D3CB:F001:8D5:5E92:C489:1262 (talk) 11:07, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Maestro2016 (talk) 14:07, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ramaleela Malayalam Movie Entered 55 Crore Club!

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/ramaleela-earns-rs-55-crore-55-days-arun-gopy-says-he-owes-success-specially-dileep-748819

https://www.filmibeat.com/malayalam/news/2017/ramaleela-box-office-collections-the-dileep-starrer-joins-the-55-crore-club-269390.html

http://www.manoramaonline.com/movies/movie-news/2017/11/08/its-official-dileep-ramaleela-enters-50-crore-club.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramaleela_(film)


^ Above are the links proving it. Ramaleela Malayalam Movie Entered 55 Crore Club.Italic text — Preceding unsigned comment added by PuliMurugan (talk • contribs) 02:52, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@PuliMurugan: The source of the content is the film's director. We don't use primary sources for controversial content, since a director would have every reason to inflate financial figures, and (big surprise) there is a lot of lying in the world of Indian cinema financials. We use sources that provide independent verification. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:58, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]


But then how will any movies box office collection be known? Most of the movies like Bahubali are known to everyone by the producer or someone else on how much the movie makes at boxoffice. Malayalam Manorama is a trustable news website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PuliMurugan (talk • contribs) 18:08, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Sir Here is the link which gives clear reference that Ramleela has entered 50cr club.This article is given by Times of India which is the most reliable source.The collection they said is not given by the producer or the director . https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/malayalam/movies/news/dileeps-ramaleela-enters-50-crores-club/articleshow/61564289.cms . Please take necessary actionsMuhammed.suhail (talk) 10:05, 19 November 2017 (UTC) Admin can yku please add Ramleela in the list the source is provided above which is by TOI Muhammed.suhail (talk) 08:45, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you @Muhammed Suhail... and that link was 1 or 2 weeks ago when the movie collected 50 Crores, Now the movie crossed 55 Crores. http://www.manoramaonline.com/movies/movie-news/2017/11/08/its-official-dileep-ramaleela-enters-50-crore-club.html Manorama Online or Malayalam Manorama is a trustable news channel and website. The movie crossed 55 Crores. Plz Update... Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PuliMurugan (talk • contribs) 22:11, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, wait, I'm really confused here. Do both of you live in a mindset where you're unaware of the well-known corruption in Indian film finances? Is that a shocking mystery to you? Because it's certainly not a mystery to me, and I am an outsider who has zero passion for any Indian film. But if you're both aware that Indian film finances are untrustworthy, there's no excuse for asserting that this data, as confirmed by the producers, is the true information. Even Muhammed.suhail's post of this reference says, "Now we hear that the film has also entered the 50 crores club. 'Ramaleela' is Dileep's second movie after 'Two Countries,' reportedly, to enter the 50 crores club." This is a cautious tip-toeing around information that was leaked to them. This isn't an independent confirmation. Do you believe the producers of Kabali who tried to generate hype that the film made 600 crore? Are you comfortable swallowing that data? If not, then please stop trying to republish rumours and producer claims as incontrovertible fact. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:21, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Cyphoidbomb Then you tell us how much ramaleela movie collected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PuliMurugan (talk • contribs) 19:46, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It made as much money as independent reliable sources have been able to confirm independently. If that number is not available yet, then we publish nothing. Wikipedia has no deadline. We're not under any obligation to act as shills for the producers by regurgitating their financial claims. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:50, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As you are providing only reliable sources in case of Ezra the source you are provided is not available then how did you add that movie in the List of Malayalam Movies expecting a reliable answer from you sirMuhammed.suhail (talk) 13:43, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Muhammed.suhail: There is something known as dead url, when a url stops working and dies. This is what happened to the Ezra source. Since most of the users around here must have examined the source and confirmed it's reliability for its inclusion in the article, there is no urgency to remove it. It seems to be a Yahoo News source, from the url. About the gross of Ramaleela, an OR Observation: The actor Dileep was arrested prior to the release of the film, so there is probably a lot of inflation of the figures by the producers as a publicity stunt. This was the latest source I could find which did not use director/producer figures. Also, if the film really has crossed 50 crore, there is bound to be a lot of hype in media, with multiple news reports, not blog reports and reliable sources reporting "reports suggest it crossed 55 crore." King Prithviraj II (talk) 16:34, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I understand what you mean i will provide you the source which proves Ezra , The Great Father , MunthiriVallikal Thalirkkumbol reaches 50cr.You can add this source which is stating that these movies collected 50cr . http://m.manoramaonline.com/movies/movie-news/2017/11/08/its-official-dileep-ramaleela-enters-50-crore-club.html . In the second paragraph it mention about 50cr movies — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhammed.suhail (talk • contribs) 07:14, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In this edit I updated the Ezra reference with an archived copy of the Yahoo article. (It actually came from Catch News, filtered through Yahoo.) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:52, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Cyphoidbomb This is a trustable website. Manorama Online. Please update Ramaleela Final Gross. 55 Crores. http://www.manoramaonline.com/movies/movie-news/2017/11/08/its-official-dileep-ramaleela-enters-50-crore-club.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by PuliMurugan (talk • contribs) 02:12, November 30, 2017 (UTC)

@PuliMurugan: 1) Please sign your talk page posts by typing four tildes like this: ~~~~ This will append your name and a time stamp. This is a requirement. If you post any more unsigned comments, I will just ignore you. 2) I've already explained what the problem is with using content that originates from producers/directors/actors or other primary sources. Either you don't understand for some reason, or you are deliberately ignoring the explanation. Maybe this article can help paint a better picture of the issue. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:01, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cyphoidbomb: I speak Malayalam to an extent, translating the first sentence of the source (ദിലീപ് ചിത്രം രാമലീലയുടെ ബോക്സ്ഓഫീസ് കലക്ഷൻ അണിയറപ്രവർത്തകർ പുറത്തുവിട്ടു) A rough translation would be "Dileep's film Ramaleela's Box Office collection was revealed by the filmakers." This sentence itself shows the figures are primary. King Prithviraj II (talk) 18:13, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@King Prithviraj II: Thank you for the translation! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:46, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You are welcome, also, check out the headline of this source, the 50 crore claim is met with skepticism. King Prithviraj II (talk) 15:33, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mersal

Hi Guys,

can you please update Mersal box office collection from 235 crore to 240 crore^^

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/adirindi-first-week-box-office-collection-mersal-telugu-version-breaks-even-distributors-8-days-749760 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:77:6F2B:3109:525:9FFF:7B9F:12CA (talk) 20:43, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Maestro2016 (talk) 06:13, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Starring

Its important to add a column representing the leading star/s of every movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaazan (talk • contribs) 15:47, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Vaazan: Why is that important? And how do we decide who the leading stars are of each movie? What list would we look at for that information? Would we just pick and choose at random? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:31, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyphoidbomb: For that reason, why don't we follow the table as listed here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films . When additional information like multiple production houses can be columned, why not have leading actors columned for every movie. It also helps to catalogue the attribution of the financial success of a movie to them, as it is so with most Indian movies. If this doesn't seem logical, then having the columns reduced without director or production house names is also equally logical, like the link I have posted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaazan (talk • contribs) 14:17, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Vaazan: Again, why do we want this information in these tables? And again, how do you determine who the "leading stars" of every movie are? You're proposing a cruft magnet, i.e. yet another block of information that's going to invite indiscriminate additions. Proof: Since editors have already added directors and production houses to the existing tables, that's given you license to suggest yet another column be added. Nobody's going to agree on who the stars are. This is a recurring issue in Indian film articles. Anyway, the simpler the data in this article, the better.
Also, please sign your posts with four tildes like: ~~~~. This will automatically append a signature and time stamp, like this → Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:18, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

MERSAL

Hi guys,
can you please update Mersal box office collection from 240 crore to 250 crore and add in global gross figures ^^

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/ilayathalapathy-vijays-mersal-creates-history-breaches-rs-250-crore-mark-750449

Done. Maestro2016 (talk) 20:09, 24 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Change mersal movie ranking

Move mersal movie to 5th ranking in highest tamil movie grossing and move 25th rank in globel grossing Kaarthik roy kevin (talk) 11:10, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 November 2017

Please 'change the Worldwide gross' of Tamil film 'Mersal' from '240 Crore to 250 Crore' , the link is ' http://www.ibtimes.co.in/ilayathalapathy-vijays-mersal-creates-history-breaches-rs-250-crore-mark-750449 ' .. 183.78.95.8 (talk) 13:51, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mersal just reached 210crores only, not more than this. Update it. Jahir cer (talk) 05:00, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rajinikanth movies are high grossed movies, have proof officially.

Hj Jahir cer (talk) 04:00, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kabali & Enthiran movie. Please update. Kabali beat the Baahubali-the beginning record. Check the true box office collection and revise or update. Jahir cer (talk) 05:03, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done It's unclear what changes you are requesting, Jahir cer, and you need to bring references when you ask editors to make changes. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:40, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rajinikanth movies

Kabali movie collected more than 950crores approximately. The collection of first 13 days are 650crores, confirmed news by some magazines. Likewise Enthiran movie also collected 400crores approximately. Please revise this page in tamil cinema or kollywood. Jahir cer (talk) 04:11, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - @Jahir cer: Your unsourced claim that Kabali grossed over 950 crore is absurd. The idiots at Financial Express, posted high claims of up to 677 crore, but when you read the source, it becomes very clear that they've included included pre-release income, which is never factored into box office figures. Box office = money made at the box office, through ticket sales. So even from the perspective of the poor journalists at Express Group, the film grossed 477 crore (215 domestic, 262 international). Since you've brought no references to this discussion about the 950 crore claim, there isn't anything else I can say on the matter. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:50, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 November 2017

Please add Vitamin She in the list of highest grossing films after Karsandas Pay & Use. It has collected 3.5 crores till now. [1] [2] [3] [4] 74.82.35.73 (talk) 10:56, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: Which one of these is supposed to be a reliable source for the financial data? Surely not the Facebook link. Surely not the Weeklycollection.in blog. I don't see any financial claims at Bollywood Bhaskar. I don't see anything that resembles numbers on the front page of Gujarati Midday. ?? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:43, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

please check again

Financial Express & Indian Express confirmed the Kabali movie grossed 650crores in first 13days from the movie release. Jahir cer (talk) 11:46, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop raising this nonsensical issue over and over. Your previous comments have been responded to. Now you're just wasting people's time. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:50, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Premam Malayalam Movie Final Collection

As per the reports of TOI Premam has collected 63cr worldwide. Please update this information https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/malayalam/movies/highest-grossing-malayalam-films-of-all-time/photostory/49755072.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhammed.suhail (talk • contribs) 23:57, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Great Father Malayalam Movie WorldWide Collection

As per wikipedia the more sources added the more can be believed by the user. For The Great Father only one source is provided. I added new topic mainly because of giving another source validating that the movie has collected 50cr http://m.manoramaonline.com/movies/movie-news/2017/11/08/its-official-dileep-ramaleela-enters-50-crore-club.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhammed.suhail (talk • contribs) 00:09, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Muhammed.suhail: This reference has been mentioned at least four other times on this page, and you previously mentioned it on 20 November. Read the comments above if you want to understand why the source is problematic. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 08:21, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am not talking about Ramleela i am talking about The Great Father In second para it shortly says about the movies that collected 50cr The Great Father is there in the list and it doesnt says that according to produver or actor Muhammed.suhail (talk) 09:45, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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