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'''Status Report''' - As discussed in the "phab:" link that Dispenser provided above, [[User:DPL bot|DPL bot]] has been blocked from accessing the database server that it has used for the past couple of years to generate its reports, supposedly for excessive locking of the database tables. I find this puzzling, since there have been no significant changes in any of our scripts for years, and no indication until now of any problems. But, in response to this decision, I've moved our jobs to a different database server. This was only a partial solution; the DAB Challenge is back up, but the daily disambiguation page updates aren't working (for reasons that aren't entirely clear to me). The long-term solution is to rewrite the scripts so that we don't lock any database tables, but this is going to take me some time, and I'm afraid that if the daily updates won't run, then we won't have a DAB Challenge for October. I'm sorry for this, but it's largely out of my control. --[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 13:19, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
'''Status Report''' - As discussed in the "phab:" link that Dispenser provided above, [[User:DPL bot|DPL bot]] has been blocked from accessing the database server that it has used for the past couple of years to generate its reports, supposedly for excessive locking of the database tables. I find this puzzling, since there have been no significant changes in any of our scripts for years, and no indication until now of any problems. But, in response to this decision, I've moved our jobs to a different database server. This was only a partial solution; the DAB Challenge is back up, but the daily disambiguation page updates aren't working (for reasons that aren't entirely clear to me). The long-term solution is to rewrite the scripts so that we don't lock any database tables, but this is going to take me some time, and I'm afraid that if the daily updates won't run, then we won't have a DAB Challenge for October. I'm sorry for this, but it's largely out of my control. --[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 13:19, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
: {{reply to|R'n'B|label=Russ}} Ptooiy! (sp.?) to the DAB challenge. The only numbers that matter are in [[WP:The Daily Disambig#Table 1]], and the only report I'm really interested in is [https://tools.wmflabs.org/dplbot/disambig_links.php Disambiguation pages with links]. Get that/those working, and I'll be a happy bunny. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 01:10, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
: {{reply to|R'n'B|label=Russ}} Ptooiy! (sp.?) to the DAB challenge. The only numbers that matter are in [[WP:The Daily Disambig#Table 1]], and the only report I'm really interested in is [https://tools.wmflabs.org/dplbot/disambig_links.php Disambiguation pages with links]. Get that/those working, and I'll be a happy bunny. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 01:10, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
::I'm also mainly interested in the lists. I agree that [https://tools.wmflabs.org/dplbot/disambig_links.php Disambiguation pages with links] is the priority but I also find these useful:
::*[https://tools.wmflabs.org/dplbot/templates_with_dab_links.php Templates with disambiguation links] (the single edits that will do the most good)
::*[https://tools.wmflabs.org/dplbot/articles_with_dab_links.php Articles With Multiple Dablinks] (candidates for the dablinks.py tool)
::*[https://tools.wmflabs.org/dplbot/latest_dabs.php Today's Dablink Report] (handy but not essential)
::Is there a "data warehouse" copy of the relevant tables somewhere, which is updated on a daily schedule and where it is considered perfectly acceptable behaviour for multiple users to hog read-only locks for the rest of the day? [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes|talk]]) 12:55, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

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    I was wondering if it was intentional that there was no use of the <code> tag in this article, and if I should go through and add it to all of the markup code in this article. Should I? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjismynameforreal (talk • contribs) 10:47, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    may need a kick. It didn't do its usual runs on 12 and 13 May, and the reports are getting out-of-date. Narky Blert (talk) 13:15, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    • I've kicked it so much my foot hurts. :-( Darn titanium robot... Not sure what Plan B is at this point. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:57, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    1. Keep Calm and Carry On.
    2. Walk Fast and Look Worried. Narky Blert (talk) 23:30, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    An update by User:R'n'B: User talk:Dispenser#DPL bot errors again. Narky Blert (talk) 19:21, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Russ: *Applause!* It's all looking good from here :-) Narky Blert (talk) 17:01, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I came across the title link as a subpage of the ongoing discussion at Talk:New York (disambiguation)#Survey on the proposed move. I've had my say in "To Foo or not to Foo" on a lightly-floated idea about whether or not WP:MALPLACED is the right idea. Other WP:DPL members might also wish to contribute. Narky Blert (talk) 22:23, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    • For the record, if every disambiguation page were at a "Foo (disambiguation)" title, with "Foo" titles redirecting to them where there was no primary topic, then at least we would have no concern about whether to disambiguate such pages. We would, however, need to move several hundred-thousand existing disambiguation pages from their current base page names, and fix tools like the AWB disambiguation link fixing mode to fix the links even though the solutions are not present on the linked page. bd2412 T 22:30, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    There are parts of WP:MOS which I detest with a passion - notably MOS:CT, which to my eyes is ambiguous, can demand capitalisations which look ugly or are counter-intuitive, or sometimes just look plain wrong. However, MOS:CT is so deeply embedded within Wiki that I grit my teeth and put up with it. Anyone suggesting a radical change to a long-established guideline like MOS:CT or WP:DABLINK should also volunteer to repair the resulting damage. Narky Blert (talk) 22:53, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    User:DPL bot

    tools.wmflabs.org/dplbot/ went down at 10:25 BST 22 September 2017 (just under 6 hours ago). The only response I get from any of the tools is "Database connection error. Please try again later. Access denied for user 's51290'@'10.68.17.65' (using password: YES)". Has anyone any ideas? Narky Blert (talk) 16:20, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Now working again. Narky Blert (talk) 18:18, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    phab:T172882Dispenser 11:53, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Update. The tools may be working again, but the reports are not being updated. E.g. this one looks exactly the same as it did two days ago. It still includes 200+ links which I have fixed. As I work my way through, I am beginning to run into false positives – i.e. bad links which have already been fixed but which DPL bot thinks are still there. That wastes my time. (While all tools were down, I managed to get January 2013 down from 51 to 24, but that's a drop in the bucket.) Narky Blert (talk) 01:48, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Status Report - As discussed in the "phab:" link that Dispenser provided above, DPL bot has been blocked from accessing the database server that it has used for the past couple of years to generate its reports, supposedly for excessive locking of the database tables. I find this puzzling, since there have been no significant changes in any of our scripts for years, and no indication until now of any problems. But, in response to this decision, I've moved our jobs to a different database server. This was only a partial solution; the DAB Challenge is back up, but the daily disambiguation page updates aren't working (for reasons that aren't entirely clear to me). The long-term solution is to rewrite the scripts so that we don't lock any database tables, but this is going to take me some time, and I'm afraid that if the daily updates won't run, then we won't have a DAB Challenge for October. I'm sorry for this, but it's largely out of my control. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:19, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Russ: Ptooiy! (sp.?) to the DAB challenge. The only numbers that matter are in WP:The Daily Disambig#Table 1, and the only report I'm really interested in is Disambiguation pages with links. Get that/those working, and I'll be a happy bunny. Narky Blert (talk) 01:10, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm also mainly interested in the lists. I agree that Disambiguation pages with links is the priority but I also find these useful:
    Is there a "data warehouse" copy of the relevant tables somewhere, which is updated on a daily schedule and where it is considered perfectly acceptable behaviour for multiple users to hog read-only locks for the rest of the day? Certes (talk) 12:55, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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