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The result was delete.  Sandstein  08:07, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rehman Azhar

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doesn't meet WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 13:35, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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why ? --Saqib (talk) 07:16, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment I feel like some case needs to be made here. The article has been the subject of several edit wars but no real change over the past 5 years. There are no links cited as references but 13 links at the end of the article, none currently useful. The article reads as a personal bio. Overall, it's a very low-quality article, and should possibly be reduced to a 1-paragraph stub. But I can't support a case for deletion of this article unless somebody who reads Urdu can check for notability in that language. Power~enwiki (talk) 02:44, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete If he is notable, it is not verifiable at this stage. If an Urdu reader proves this wrong at some point in the future, then this article can be re-created. It does not appear to have an Urdu-language Wikipedia article and I cannot find sources to verify notability, nor is notability clear from this article. MartinJones (talk) 07:42, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - none of the references point to anything notable if to anything at all.--Rpclod (talk) 15:45, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment after a few more weeks of the AfD process, I no longer support my previous Keep vote here, and remain neutral. Power~enwiki (talk) 20:32, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. SoWhy 13:30, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gul Ayaz

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doesn't meet WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 13:34, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete no references and I can find none in English other than editorial credits [1]. Power~enwiki (talk) 19:17, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That is Ayaz Gul, not Gul Ayaz. --Saqib (talk) 07:18, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I can't tell if those refer to the same person or not. Power~enwiki (talk) 07:37, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. No reason given to keep the article. Kurykh (talk) 01:42, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Saadia Afzaal

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doesn't meet WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 13:31, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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why ? --Saqib (talk) 07:18, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Delete Doesn't pass GNG, it could go either way on NJOURNALIST, but more refs are needed. This is one of those "it could be notable with some more work, but the odds are probably that it isn't and it isn't as it's written now." South Nashua (talk) 02:22, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fakhruddin Sajid

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doesn't pass WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 13:04, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete no evidence of notability as a poet. Power~enwiki (talk) 19:18, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - we need expert opinion on this one, but as of right now, I'd start from scratch. The only source in the stub can not be translated by a machine. Bearian (talk) 16:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. After three relists, there is still no consensus whether the sources demonstrate notability and there is no indication that another relist would lead to a clearer consensus. SoWhy 12:24, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rahima Naz

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doesn't pass WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 13:03, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak Keep not internationally notable, but [1] suggests that there's local notability. Power~enwiki (talk) 19:21, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This is a unreliable source. --Saqib (talk) 07:19, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - local notability, no matter how well deserved, is not the same as WP:GNG. Bearian (talk) 22:16, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Added 2 reliable sources and removed some un-cited content. - Mfarazbaig (talk) 08:37, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - one link is dead, another just mentions the subject as a bystander quoted for an article. One article does not create notability.--Rpclod (talk) 15:52, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete inadequate sources found to support notability.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:50, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The one Pakistan Today article is all about her and is enough, in my view, to establish notability for an author working in a non-English area (we may surmise that more coverage exists in local languages).  Sandstein  08:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mir Muhammad Soomro

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doesn't pass WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 12:47, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • The Urdu language wikipedia article on him even has a navbox for him, with links to individual works, etc. Yet Gscholar has absolutely nothing on him in English. And when I do a Gsearch for the name in either Sindhi or Urdu, there's nothing, again. Delete per nom. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:04, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. Sources not found. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:33, 6 May 2017 (UTC).[reply]
  • Comment -- He seems to have been very prolific, but only being an assistant professor does not fill me with confidence as to notability. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:59, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete - fails NOR. Sources do not need to be online, but there do need to be sources. Smmurphy(Talk) 16:34, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. North America1000 19:52, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Soomran Jo Shujro

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A non-notable book about the Soomra dynasty and/or the Soomro, created by an editor who's created quite a few Soomro family-related articles. I can't find anything on this book -- and the references on the article are of no value. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:47, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete -- no indications as to why this entry should be included in the encyclopedia. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:28, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete not a notable book. --Saqib (talk) 08:07, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • DElete -- an ADVERT for a NN genealogy book in a foreign language, probably Urdu. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:56, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - fails WP:NBOOK. Smmurphy(Talk) 16:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 02:25, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Naseer Soomro

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doesn't pass WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 12:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Certainly the strongest of the Soomro-related articles at Afd that I've seen to date: there Sindhi and Urdu Wikipedia articles on him, there are at least non-reliable sources about him, he even apparently gets a passing mention in South Africa's DRUM magazine. But despite this, he seems to fail both GNG and WP:AUTHOR. Delete. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:55, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep. I did some digging and this poet meets Wikipedia notability guidelines, with sufficient coverage to support this determination (including coverage of him in The News International, the largest English-language paper in Pakistan, and the BBC World Service). In addition, well-known Sindhi poet Tajal Bewas read a paper about Soomro's poetry at the Pakistan Academy of Letters, a singular honor for a poet in that country. I have reworked the article to make it meet Wikipedia style guidelines and have added a number of citations which prove the subject's notability. I should also note that this subject has entries not only in the Encyclopedia Sindhiana but in the Sindhi and Urdu Wikipedias. If Soomra is notable enough for the Wikipedias in his main languages, let alone the Encyclopedia Sindhiana, it seems a bit silly for English-language editors who can't speak those languages to go against this. Just saying. --SouthernNights (talk) 22:14, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - Additions by SouthernNights have greatly improved the article. Smmurphy(Talk) 16:36, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes and I've struck through my !vote above, accordingly. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:04, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Faqeer Muhammad Soomro

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doesn't pass WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 12:27, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per nom. Nothing on him in Gnews. Nothing about him in Gbooks, from what I can see. Created by an editor who's created a number of Soomro family articles. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:39, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment is [2] the same person? I don't know how I would be able to tell. Power~enwiki (talk) 19:20, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
NO. that is different peron. Look at the photograph. --Saqib (talk) 07:20, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:V. We can't locate even a single source. Bearian (talk) 16:29, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:13, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hakeem Muhammad Amin Soomro

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doesn't pass WP:GNG. cited sources are not reliable enough. Saqib (talk) 12:24, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per nom. Nothing on him in Gnews. Created by an editor who's created a number of Soomro family articles. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:37, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete wikipedia is not a webhost for family histories. This person fails GNG. Jytdog (talk) 01:45, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete - Fails NOR. Three of the four sources are broken, but looking them up on archive.org, they don't seem to have anything to do with the content. The fourth source is royal ark and only discusses Mir Ali Nawaz Talpur and not Soomro. Smmurphy(Talk) 16:31, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Not sourced nearly well enough to get over WP:GNG, and nothing stated in the article is a strong enough notability claim to earn him a presumption of notability in the absence of a demonstrable GNG pass. Bearcat (talk) 20:20, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete A noble effort that seems to have been written in good faith, but the sources cited aren't substantial enough, or in a diverse enough array of reliable and mainstream publications, to prove the subject's notability. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:17, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Callisto Nerayo

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Fails WP:BIO. Possible WP:HOAX. Neither a scientist nor nutritionist. Non notable. scope_creep (talk) 12:05, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • delete fails BIO, by miles. Jytdog (talk) 01:48, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No claim of notability, all sources are web ephemera. Agricola44 (talk) 15:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  16:21, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cynosure FC of Port Harcourt

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Non Notable. Fails WP:NFOOTBALL scope_creep (talk) 11:47, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 15:32, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete: No evidence of notability. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:07, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. WP:NPASR. King of ♠ 05:15, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Glenn H. Greenberg

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Fails WP:BIO. Non notable finance man. Some coverage, but mostly stop tips. scope_creep (talk) 11:26, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Marine debris. (non-admin closure) feminist 02:25, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Marine plastic pollution

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This is copied word-for-word from the cited source, a journal article. Although not a copyright violation (the journal is apparently Creative Commons), Wikipedia should not be a publisher (or republisher, in this case) of primary research reports. See Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_publisher_of_original_thought. Peacock (talk) 11:12, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Closing per agreement between filer (me) and the student's adviser that further work will be done. Nobody else has commented.. I hope there wasn't some formal requirement that somebody other than the filer close. Somebody had better tell me off if there was. Under the circumstances, I thought it reasonable to do it myself. Bishonen | talk 09:24, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Feminization (sociology)

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The article seems to have been created by copypasting from academic sources in excellent English, combined with short presumably self-written bits in very poor English. Please look at this version, from before I started to remove copyvios and incoherence today. I gave up in frustration because I couldn't access the other sources, but I bet they've been used in the same way. Perhaps somebody who has access to Jstor could check out this, this, and this, to see if the relevant article sections have been lifted from them, as seems likely? The subject may be notable, but surely this article had better be deleted per WP:TNT and a new one written, if anybody's up for it. Bishonen | talk 11:09, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: There looks to only be two links posted, so I checked those. Offhand it doesn't look like there's anything closely paraphrased or outright taken from the articles from what I can see, but a second look from another person would definitely be a good idea. It looks like the copyvio was recently posted by a student in one of my WikiEd courses, so there should be a clean version to go back to with this edit. I agree that the topic looks like it should be notable and I think that doing a revdel of the edits back to the version I posted above would be the best option here. I'll send a version to the student and ask them to work on re-writing the content to remove the copyvio/plagiarism. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:03, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you very much, Shalor (Wiki Ed). You mean doing a revert to the version you suggest, rather than a revdel (revision deletion), I think? Good idea. I hope your student responds and gets on well with rewriting the article. It's not exactly only the copyvio/plagiarism (which needs to be rephrased in the student's own words) even though that is the most important thing, but there are also problems of coherence and grammar in the bits that aren't copyvio. Could you tell your student that as politely as possible, please — I have no tact. :-( I'm quite willing to revert the article as you suggest and withdraw this AfD, so the student doesn't have to work under the sword of Damocles. Would that be the best way of handling it, in your opinion? Bishonen | talk 23:48, 6 May 2017 (UTC).[reply]
  • I was thinking of a revdel to be on the safe side, but I have no problem with just reverting the content since that would be easier for the student. I'll also approach them about the clarity of the content and offer my help with this process. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 00:14, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it's reasonable to let the student have access to their own (and others') old revisions, as material to work with (well, they can do that provided they know how to use the history to see old revisions and comments). OK, I'll close this AfD, without prejudice to starting another one at some future date, and revert the article to this version. Happy editing, all. Bishonen | talk 09:20, 7 May 2017 (UTC).[reply]
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The result was keep.  Sandstein  16:19, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dilbagh Singh (singer)

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Fails WP:BIO and WP:MUSICBIO. Brand new singer, may make it, with WP:TOOSOON. But may not. scope_creep (talk) 10:58, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep According to the link above, the Afd was alreadg conducted once. Also, there are quite a few eligible links here which shows the subject's notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Instantly Maters (talk • contribs) 17:04, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Afd are already closed a month ago. It classifies on the basis of links provided. Gurdeep Kaur
  • Keep legit links are their. Should not be deleted. HennaSingh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.176.233.162 (talk) 21:13, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: and forbid further AfDs for six months. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:08, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ajay Hattangdi

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Fails WP:BIO. scope_creep (talk) 10:39, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete – per nom, most mentions in sources are trivial, and all are in the context of InnoVen. WP:NOTINHERITED. Quasar G t - c 11:25, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak Delete the only coverage of him (as opposed to his company) is a "40 under 40" style article. Power~enwiki (talk) 19:25, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete He appears to not be notable enough. The CEO of the whole company, maybe, but he appears to just be a national manager. In case I am wrong, I will assess the article anyway as a part of WikiProject Biography. Firstclass306 (talk) 17:03, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment He is the CEO of entire India operations (InnoVen Capital) and the COO of the Group, and makes strategic decisions regarding investments made in leading startups of the country. Tamma07 (talk) 11:23, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Direct news links/press coverage talking about him have not been published but his notability on the basis of the role he plays through his company InnoVen Capital cannot be denied. Tamma07 (talk) 11:23, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment So that is no sources then, for a WP:BLP article, where new rules mean sources must be very strong. scope_creep (talk) 00:02, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - granted that he is a CEO of a large subsidiary in one of the two largest countries on the earth, I'd like to see good sourcing that he even exists. Bearian (talk) 16:33, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:17, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Aditya A. Joshi

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Fails WP:BIO and possibly WP:FILMMAKER scope_creep (talk) 10:30, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom, I can find no reliable sources about the subject. Quasar G t - c 11:35, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. No reason given to keep the article. Kurykh (talk) 01:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Shia Kapos

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promotional article with insufficient references DGG ( talk ) 10:21, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete – fails WP:BIO for many passing mentions and blogs, but no substantial coverage in reliable sources. Quasar G t - c 11:41, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

UNIMAS Student Representative Council

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Non-notable students' union. This article should be merged into Universiti Malaysia Sarawak. Alexander Iskandar (talk) 09:53, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Deletethis is the only good source I can find, aside from passing mentions. Not really worth merging unless the material can be sourced. Quasar G t - c 11:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or merge to Universiti Malaysia Sarawak, there are no significance importance of the university's students' union. QianCheng虔诚 08:26, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Malaysian Americans. It may be duly noted that an AfD is not the appropriate venue to seek a merge. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 18:04, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Malaysian Islamic Study Group

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Non-notable organisation. This article should be merged into Malaysian Americans. Alexander Iskandar (talk) 10:02, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 17:59, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mastermind Champion of Champions

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Does not cite any sources. Does not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline. BangJan1999 (talk) 09:36, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I also noticed that the article creator hadn't been told about this, so I added a notice to Wonderwizard (talk · contribs)'s talk page in case they want to contribute. Mortee (talk) 15:00, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - seems notable, with new sources, and comparable to other prog pages. Deathlibrarian (talk) 05:41, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. North America1000 01:52, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Parris

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Of the seven references currently provided in this article, the subject is not mentioned anywhere in references 1 or 2; #3 and #4 are both profiles rather than news articles; #5 is a link to a publisher's website; #6 is a primary source; and #7 is a personal blog without an editorial staff or oversight. There is lots of evidence that this person exists, but there does not appear to be enough evidence to substantiate a notability claim. Article was created by an SPA. KDS4444 (talk) 20:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete I have to agree that there's limited evidence of notability. The main item would be the author's book, Wade of Aquitaine, except it was self-published 9 years ago, and despite claims of initially being highly ranked on the Kindle, only has 22 reviews at this date. If you take away the book, it's even harder to demonstrate Mr. Parris' notability. I'm putting a delete vote on the book article as well. Timtempleton (talk) 23:43, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is a biography of Ben Parris, which can be found at this link--(one of the references): http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?Ben_Parris He is notable, not only for his novel, but he has won national awards. SFrancis1608 (talk) 11:05, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Please provide a link to any reference that mentions a national award and Mr. Parris' name. The article as it stands only asserts this, but provides no evidence of it being true. KDS4444 (talk) 14:46, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What do you do when the online source that the article relied upon for years is no longer maintained? There must be many articles for which references aren't maintained--does this mean that they are no longer notable? I can provide you with a greatly reduced version of a bit of the information, about the Unisys Prize for Online Science Education 2002: http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=edtech&month=0204&week=a&msg=pLLX/s639z6aldCAVzBdgg&user=&pw= but the reference wasn't maintained. SFrancis1608 (talk) 19:28, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Director of the "Long Island Museum of Science & Technology" certainly sounds like a claim to notability, except I can't fina bluselink. The place doee have a webpage [6] but no gNews hits [7], and to have been subsumed by or merged into the Cradle of Aviation Museum. Taking a fresh tack, I ran a Proqeust news archive search on "Ben Parris" Bingo! He and his museum were notable, Newsday: "LI Science Museum's Parris Becomes a Space Ambassador" Jackson, Tommi, 07 Oct 2002: p. A34. [8]' "COOL2KNOW," Washington Post; BY CARYN EVE MURRAY. Newsday, 13 Feb 2008: B.3. , [9]. More sources found. There's enough here to keep, article needs a good editing/editor.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:08, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak Delete article is on him as a self-published author. I'd probably support keeping a heavily edited version of the article. Power~enwiki (talk) 19:30, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Claire Kittrell

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Non notable subject with a few references to unreliable youtube and twitter. Also refs to few other unreliable websites. Notability is not inherited. Article refers to comments made on a twitter account that may or may not be written by article subject. Ar best the twitter comment is self published, at the worst it is considered unreliable because it is not known for certain who posted the comment on unreliable twitter, whether it be the subject or another party. Article and subject fails WP:GNG and has not proven N notability. Article was tagged for notability, but another editor objected and quickly removed the tag citing some alphabet tag. I have heard that failing argument before, thus bringing to AFD to attempt to gain a consensus decision from any group of editors. Antonioatrylia (talk) 18:48, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete none of the sources provide the indepth coverage needed for notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:25, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete – I can find plenty of passing mentions, as well as gossip magazines commenting on her being transgender, but not enough coverage in reliable sources to keep the article. Fails WP:BASIC. Quasar G t - c 12:14, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - everybody's got a YouTube channel, nothing notable here. Montanabw(talk) 10:33, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Exemplo347 (talk) 09:56, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Leo Stan Ekeh

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The article has no references and most of the claims have been tagged since 2012. From looking through "news" articles, they are either interviews or WP:PRIMARY sources or they reference the alleged fraud WP:ONEEVENT. The entire article reads like a CV. -- HighKing++ 14:36, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete -- a glorified CV. No indications of notability or significance; associated with a nn company. Wikipedia is not LinkedIn. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:27, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: An individual with a national honour, OFR suggests some claim of notability. These things are not given to just any successful businessman. Darreg (talk) 18:17, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: @Darreg: that true. Am in support.--MKJ6006 (talk) 10:02, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: we are now seeing keep !votes from editors with no other edits on en-WP than creating promotional articles about non-notable Nigerian bloggers, rappers etc, and !voting keep when articles of that kind created by others are nominated for deletion. Making me believe that we're seeing a group of people engaging in paid editing. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 10:51, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Do you really have enough information to suggest paid editing? This sounds like WP:BADFAITH to me. And I hope I'm not part of the "editors" you're implying are engaged in promotional editing, WP:COI and WP:PAIDEDITING is something I've never violated since joining here. Darreg (talk) 18:16, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak Keep the article needs improvements in quality more than it needs additional references/proof of notability, IMO. Power~enwiki (talk) 07:51, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep. The article needs work, but a BEFORE convinced me he is notable. Covered in Nigerian and international press.Icewhiz (talk) 08:12, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: per Darreg. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:26, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Exemplo347 (talk) 09:55, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Christina El Moussa

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The article has been on AfD in 2015, and the decision was merge as the subjest is not notable. Today an account with 27 total edits restored the article, claiming the individual is notable because of her diviorce, and indeed added some info about the divorce. The article is slightly different from the version of two years ago, and therefore AfD seems to be a suitable process to delete it, rather than CSD. Ymblanter (talk) 08:43, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Follow-up: Speedy struck on the presumption of revdelling. Re WP:OSE, the same case applies for for keeping Tarek El Moussa as a separate article vs redirecting to Flip Or Flop as it does to Christine El Moussa. The issue with both is that their individual notability does not appear separable from each other, nor does their combined notability appear separable from Flip or Flop. Almost all of this article is actually about the couple and their combined activities, as is, for instance, the provided story. Considering the three possibilities (1: separate pages for each + separate page for Flip or Flop; 2: combined page for the pair plus separate page for Flip or Flop; 3: combined detail at Flip or Flop)... Option 1 results in blanket duplication across at least two pages. Option 2 would allow duplication to be avoided, which I find an acceptable compromise, though some might find this awkward given the personal split although they remain a professional duo. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 11:00, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – I've fixed the copyvio and improved the tone of the divorce section. Otherwise, the subject has vast coverage in sources. Most of this is, admittedly, in the context of Tarek El Moussa or Flip or Flop; and published by notoriously unreliable celebrity gossip newspapers like The Daily Mail. However, it demonstrates a significant fanbase, which means the subject passes WP:CELEBRITY. Digging deep enough does find reliable sources (e.g. [10]) which suggest that the individual passes WP:GNG. Quasar G t - c 13:06, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep agree with Quasar G. and the article passes GNG. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:08, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore Redirect to the show, Flip or Flop; the article is promotional with content such as "The couple leads Success Path Education" (ext link to commercial web site), etc. I also note that Tarek El Moussa is now a redirect to the show, per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tarek El Moussa from 2015. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:56, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Clarification: The subject lacks individual notability, apart from the show; hence my "Restore redirect" iVote. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:39, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Still is not notable. She is famous for her role on one show, which nearly doesn't meet notability criteria per WP:ENTERTAINER, - GalatzTalk 23:46, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep There's some data to support the claim. Christina's individual notability has increased outside of the show. 'Flip or Flop' on Google Trends shows top 'related searches' are 'Flip or Flop Christina', 'Christina El Moussa', 'Christina' (Source: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=flip%20or%20flop ). The data shows when people are searching for the show, they follow up to learn more about Christina specifically. Google Trends data also shows a spike in searches for her around the same dates of her divorce. The data supports that her notability and her celebrity status has increased outside of her show and users are interested in learning more about her personal life and background. There's also articles about her personal life written from sources such as 'People', showing increased notability. That's why I'm proposing a 'keep'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jocean4 (talk • contribs) 03:11, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I also agree with Quasar G. and yes, the article passes GNG. Deathlibrarian (talk) 05:40, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep being on the cover of People magazine gives the presumption of notability. Power~enwiki (talk) 07:59, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep or Redirect to Flip or Flop, no need to create a redlink, and the show, such as it is, confers adequate notability. Montanabw(talk) 10:37, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Do I think she should be notable? no. Is she notable? yes. The sheer amount of Google-news hits (and skimming over them) - confers notability. Reality TV stars gain notability with time - and what was true in 2015 (AFD - two years into the show), is not true in 2017.Icewhiz (talk) 08:56, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep As it currently stands, the reliable and verifiable sources about her support the claim of notability. Alansohn (talk) 20:37, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep. She's now hot in the celeb press, in addition to everything else. 2600:1002:B111:2A77:D4BC:601B:1BEE:35FF (talk) 01:38, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Zero interest to me personally, but the sources are sufficient to meet our notability guidelines. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:24, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Article needs a lot of work, but AfD isn't cleanup and notability is there. Anarchyte (work | talk) 02:37, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation herein. North America1000 01:57, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Entangling Love in Shanghai

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no citation India1277 (talk) 03:44, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - article needs citations, but the topic is definitely notable. The TV drama has been broadcast nationally in China. -Zanhe (talk) 04:12, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment From the page history we can see the nominator spent less than a minute to review the article, do WP:BEFORE and finish the AFD request. Very efficient. Timmyshin (talk) 05:41, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Steven Scheu

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Does not meet GNG, NGRIDIRON or NCOLLATH John from Idegon (talk) 00:13, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete but will support re-creation if he plays in a professional league or if sources prove notability in the article not in this AfD.UCO2009bluejay (talk) 02:35, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete At this point he fails to meet any of the notability criteria at WP:NGRIDIRON. None of the coverage appears to be the significant (i.e., non-routine) independent variety required to meet WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 03:00, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  14:00, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cornell International Affairs Society

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Non-notable student organization. All references are either self-published (Medium) or from student papers. In short: fails WP:ORG and WP:GNG. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:25, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per nom Aloneinthewild (talk) 11:39, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Looks much better, definitely a notable student organization as they're listed on the Cornell overview page of the US News Best Colleges List[2], the Cornell Chronicle (not student run)[3], and Best Delegate[4] Colestefan (talk) 5:01, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
US News is trivial mention. Cornell Chronicle is not student run, but it is the in-house newspaper for Cornell, so roughly the equivalent of a PR source. Being noted on a model UN organization's blog also doesn't satisfy our general notability guidelines, and the coverage combined is certainly not up to the standards or WP:ORG. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:27, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless, you originally marked it for deletion because "All references are either self-published (Medium) or from student papers," which is no longer the case. It seems to be up to the standards set out by WP:ORG and is certainly a notable organization from the viewpoint of someone involved in the Cornell community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.84.125.23 (talk) 18:41, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The new sources added are pretty far from what we would normally expect from an organization under WP:ORG: they are trivial or non-independent mentions in publications that would not be considered reliable sources. The same case for deletion remains: this is a student organization that is very good at what it does apparently, but is not notable in the sense of the word that we use it on Wikipedia. It could very well be noteworthy at Cornell, but that is not the same as saying it should have a separate page in a general reference encyclopedia. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:46, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Then you ought to go through and delete hundreds of student organizations that are similarly notable. Georgetown's International Affairs Relations Association only has references from Best Delegate, their own website, and their school paper. Yale is pretty much the same. No one has ever questioned those. You, Tony, just happened to find this page when there were very few references and now have placed a target on its back despite it being up to par with similar organizations. Wikipedia is not a finite or physical encyclopedia; something that is notable at Cornell, notable in the Ithaca community, and notable in the Model United Nations world has a place in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.84.125.23 (talk) 18:58, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:ORGDEPTH. There is significant coverage from reliable sources such as Oprah and problems originally cited by the complainant have been resolved (can't keep changing the benchmark). References are comparable to existing articles for similar organizations. Colestefan (talk) 19:46, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, mine is also an argument regarding WP:ORGDEPTH, as I explicitly stated. There is significant coverage from a variety of reliable sources. Period. You first said above that "All references are either self-published or from student papers" which is simply false now. When possible, editing should be done to improve the page instead of cavalier deletion as per WP:DEL-CONTENT. This has been done, so I rest my case. There is not consensus on this. Colestefan (talk) 19:56, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- sources offered at this AfD are either passing mentions or not independent of the subject (Cornell). K.e.coffman (talk) 05:32, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Ken, we could mention every source in the article in this Afd, but that would not be productive. The article and its 17 sources speaks for itself now. They are independent of the subject, because it wouldn't make any sense to include all of this information in the Cornell page, thus it should have its own. 128.84.125.2 (talk) 02:28, 13 May 2017 (UTC) Austin[reply]
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  • L3X1 can you explain how it meets NORG and GNG as your edit summary implies? The only source that gives it in depth coverage is Cornell's equivalent of a PR press. The other sources are a passing mention in the US News profile of the school and a blog post about a conference they hosted from a Model UN training organization. The only independent professional journalism source in the article is about a high school going to a conference, not actually about the student organization. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:35, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Really Tony? What you're saying is simply false. If you look at the sources there is more than that. From your original reasons to deletion to now, you've been underselling the sources in order to help your case. Do you have some kind of vendetta against this org? It seems like you're not arguing in good faith.
  • No, I don't have any sort of vendetta against this organization. I believe I randomly discovered it in the new pages backlog. I'm actually quite open to withdrawing an AfD if I have missed something, and have done so several occasions in the past. My only dog in this fight is that including non-notable organizations undermines the credibility of Wikipedia. A student organization with the level of coverage this organization has does not meet our guidelines, and they are typically deleted. L3X1 is the first non single-purpose account to express an opinion otherwise at this AfD, so I was asking them to elaborate given that their rationale was not very lengthy. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:08, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tony, I should be able to respond in less than half an hour. d.g. L3X1 (distant write) 21:11, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tony, I'm not a single-purpose account. As for "to express an opinion otherwise," that's clearly a tactic to make it seem like the "consensus" is on your side and it's not appreciated. As previously mentioned, this is an argument based on WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but since you brought it up by saying "A student organization with the level of coverage this organization has does not meet our guidelines, and they are typically deleted," I'll mention it again. Similar clubs at Georgetown and Yale, with a similar level of coverage (arguably less), have not been deleted, so again it seems you're lying to help your case. And agreeing with the previous anonymous poster, you continue to undersell sources in order to help your case. The independent professional journalism you mentioned talks about the student organization and the conference they run. Colestefan (talk) 21:32, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • TonyBallioni They are referenced (in the title) as their president being the chair of UNESCO. They have also done a lot of work with the UN 2, 3, 4.CMUN coverage 5. Combined with the various posting by sources affiliated with Cornell, I believe there is enough coverage to count as Notable. While it is very hard to completly satisfy both the independent requirement and the GNG, what I read both int he article and in other non-RS covers for it. Personally, I would edit out the Structure sections, as it is a unnessecary list. d.g. L3X1 (distant write) 21:52, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • L3X1, that is Model United Nations: a student competition where high schoolers and college students that is not actually connected to the UN. The actual head of UNESCO is Irina Bokova. The other sources are either an advertisement for their conference, self-published (keynote speaker's personal website, and Odyssey.) The final source you provided is about a high school student winning an award, not about the organization itself. Thank you for responding (even if we disagree on this.) TonyBallioni (talk) 22:02, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you, L3X1. I concur with your general sentiment and would also like to add, with regards to the GNG, that the organization is the successor to the organization that "attended the first [ever] Model Assembly of the League of Nations (at Syracuse University) in 1927 and subsequently hosted their own assembly, believed to be the second ever conference, the next year," backed up by two sources. I agree that the structure sections could be changed. Colestefan (talk) 22:06, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not notable independent of the university. Second option would be to merge into a list of Cornell societies, if one exists. Stifle (talk) 10:29, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Fails WP:GNG per searches, and clearly doesn't come close to meeting WP:ORGDEPTH. References are either non-independent or trivial mentions. Onel5969 TT me 13:18, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to History of Bielsko-Biała.  Sandstein  09:21, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bielsko municipal election, 1936

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Non-notable local election. PROD was declined with the following reasoning: "Elections in German-speaking parts of Poland during the 1930s are of more historical interest than typical local elections, so this has plausible potential utility". No explanation on the Talk page as to why they are of greater historical interest.

The only source on the page is in German, and is a book with no preview. While this is perfectly within policy it is not helpful for the average enwiki editor in terms of determining notability. Can't find any other books mentioning these elections as being abnormally significant. Admittedly though I don't read German so there could be German sources I'm missing. Finally, I am not opposed to merging; if there were a general article about similar elections I would merge and redirect, but I don't even see any other similar local election articles. ♠PMC(talk) 02:44, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment I'm the admin who declined the PROD request on this. In response to "No explanation on the Talk page as to why [elections in German-speaking Poland in the 1930s] are of greater historical interest", I would have thought that would go without saying, but if you're really not aware of the background: "the rights of German-speakers in Eastern Europe" was the proximate cause of the Second World War, and these immediately pre-war election results are the closest thing we have to a survey of what level of support Naziism had in the areas Hitler claimed to be liberating. (In this particular instance, while support for pro-German parties outnumbered that for the pro-Poland bloc, the Young German Party—aka the Nazis—didn't have majority support in the German community.) I'm not saying these elections necessarily each need their own page, but the WP:PROD process is for uncontroversial deletions which, given the potential utility of this information, clearly isn't the case here. ‑ Iridescent 09:01, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment @Soman: Your thoughts as author? The article itself doesn't provide any context about the election. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 19:08, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment What level of local government was Bielsko municipality? Based on other countries, if this was a second tier level of government, the article would almost certainly be deemed worth keeping. Number 57 21:07, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Notability isn't really the question when it comes to elections. I would be happy if the material could be merged into a larger article on the 1936 municipal elections, but I'd advice against deletion considering that the factoid given here can be difficult to recreate later. --Soman (talk) 13:12, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have a problem with the information, I just don't know that each individual election from the period is independently notable. If there had been an article to merge to, I would've done that. ♠PMC(talk) 08:38, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Information management. Consensus is that this could be merged somewhere else, but there's no clear agreement where to and seemingly no great enthusiasm for doing it. This redirect is an interim solution.  Sandstein  10:04, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Data gathering and representation techniques

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No context for this at all, which means it contains pretty much no useful information. This is made worse by the completely mangled English ("The probability distribution techniques are utilized to portray that shapes compatible with the information created amid a quantitative risk analysis" - what?). I don't see that any of this article is useful. Black Kite (talk) 01:10, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I declined a Prod request on this and a number of similar articles that cited the rough English, as I did not believe it to be totally incomprehensible. But most of these articles don't have enough content to make them worth keeping. Additionally most lack sufficient coverage in reliable secondary sources to establish a credible claim to encyclopedic notability. It might be worth an attempt to combine some of the others into a single AfD. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:01, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, tentatively, to some general project management article ...see my comment, next. --doncram 21:03, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. The article has too general a title. It is apparently an attempt to cover the topic of data gathering and representation FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT, but it doesn't say so in the title and further it fails to go into anything project-management related (perhaps where data is about tasks and sequencing matters and so on, as needed for PERT/CPM modeling). It reminds me that I participated in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Guide to the Project Management Body of Knowledge (2nd nomination), where "Keep" was the decision taken, and correctly so. It was agreed that it is okay/good to cover, within Wikipedia, the body of knowledge about project management that has been developed. With caveat: as long as it is written and organized encyclopedically, and that includes using article titles that make sense. It could be reasonable to have an article like this split out of bigger articles, but I don't currently see where this fits in, and since it has little real content I would be inclined to merge it back to wherever it does fit in. If there is a whole series of articles that have been split out unnecessarily, or set up independently, could we discuss that here, now? Rather than encouraging a slew of AFDs on them, I bet they could be addressed by editing, perhaps involving some merger proposals. And there could be some overall organizing discussion at some central location, perhaps Talk:Project management? I don't see a WikiProject specifically focused on this topic area (it seems to fall within WikiProject Business, WikiProject Computing / Software, WikiProject Engineering, and WikiProject Systems. AFDs would be unnecessarily adversarial, I think. Ad Orientem, could you comment more please? --doncram 21:03, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) feminist 02:26, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sweet potato salad

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Not that I can read the refs since my knowledge of Arabic is limited, but I see no claim of notability and I Wikipedia is not a recipe book TheLongTone (talk) 15:21, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TheLongTone. In fact, this salad is very popular in the Arab world, especially in the Maghreb and in the Levant specifically in Lebanon, as you can see there are around 330,000 searches about sweet potato salad in Arabic, I know it is not notability as Fattoush, Tabbouleh and the traditional Arab salad but there are many types of Arab salads. Wikipedia is not a recipe book. Well, I know that the article contains the ingredients, but I will be developing it in the future as other users will contribute to its development.--Canbel (talk) 15:47, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • The references are easily readable for anyone using Google Translate: they do all seem to be of the online recipe or how-to-prepare video type. Maybe see if there are book references that describe it as a notable Arabic dish. Also puzzled as to why this doesn't exist in the Arabic language Wikipedia if it's so notable--or does it? Is there a Wikidata entry for this? I can find no match. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:05, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I don't know if it an Arab dish because it is also found in the sites in English, but it is not known what is its origin, even if it is a global dish, is still an Arab recipe. The Arabic Wikipedia lacks a lot of articles. Such the Matbucha available in eight languages but not available in Arabic. I suggest renaming it to Batata hulwa salad as to pronounce in Arabic.--Canbel (talk) 16:34, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, even searching for that name, I just can't see enough significant, non-trivial coverage to merit an article, sorry. Delete per nom. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:30, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG as reliable sources are lacking. The sources cited are, as noted above, recipes and/or "how to" articles/videos. Searches turn up mentions of versions of this dish in what may well be reliable sources, but which are clearly not the Middle Eastern version. Geoff | Who, me? 19:44, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It is a general, encyclopedic topic. The existence of multiple recipes out there attests to the notability of the topic; we can have an article describing what it is, without descending into becoming a recipe book. The article can/should be expanded to cover non-Arabic versions of sweet potato salad. --doncram 20:42, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed Arabic sources into English sources. A reliable source of Arabesque book.--Canbel (talk) 00:10, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Satisfied at least one of the sources is enough to provide notability. However all the links to recipes should be removed per WP:NOTHOWTO Ajf773 (talk) 11:12, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed the links to recipes.--Canbel (talk) 12:29, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Fails WP:GNG as reliable sources are lacking. I like Arabic food and wanted to Keep the article if possible. It does not seem like sweet potato salad is a common dish name like the far more common "macaroni and cheese". There were too many slight variations of the term sweet potato salad in the sources given (such as "moroccan-ish sweet potato sunshine salad"). It seems like it is not a very popular/notable food dish. Knox490 (talk) 14:25, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - there are plenty of sources available online and in cookbooks. Bearian (talk) 21:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - A quick internet search reveals plenty of articles on the dish and/or its variants which more than clearly establishes notability; it's also a dish that someone might hear a mention of on TV or the radio and think, "What's that?" and do an internet search wanting to find the answer. Libertybison (talk) 22:05, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. SOFTDELETE per relatively low participation herein. North America1000 02:01, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rana Roy

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Singer and actress who seems to be notable at first glance, but it isn't clear that she actually meets any of the criteria in WP:MUSICBIO or WP:NACTOR. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:54, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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She does meet the guidelines. Is currently still a working actor in numerous notable TV shows with significant roles. You can see her on the TV show Underground currently airing now as well as upcoming on a very significant role on NBC's The Night Shift. Previous to this she has also appeared in NBC's The Michael J Fox Show, ABC's Black Box, MTV's Mary+Jane as guest starring roles and Switched at Birth as a recurring role. The page needs updating which will be done in the coming weeks. Please take this off the Articles for deletion. A2b3sing (talk) 21:17, 23 April 2017 (UTC) A2b3sing (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Appearances and one-off roles aren't "significant". Not all recurring roles are significant either. Please specify exactly what criterion in WP:NACTOR this person meets, and why. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:25, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. No further discussion despite three relists (a !vote without explanation does not count as discussion). The assumption of G5 eligibility is not sufficient grounds for deletion and other reasons for deletion were not mentioned either by the nominator or the sole delete-!vote. SoWhy 10:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Graham Goddard

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Page previously deleted as unambiguous promotion. Was recreated by a sockpuppet, which escaped notice for a while and has had enough edits by unrelated users to warrant a discussion. The recreated version is substantially similar to the deleted version, though not identical. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:29, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy delete under WP:G5. With the exception of a sole IP edit (quite possibly block evasion itself) all other edits to the page have been typo fixes, dab fixes, template additions and other minor edits. There's nothing that wasn't created by the sockpuppet that's worth keeping. Yunshui  12:43, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and fix the promotion as necessary, as we could use more coverage of Trinidadian artists. Hyperbolick (talk) 15:58, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stevie Lynn Jones

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Seems too soon to have an article. Her only borderline-notable role was in Crisis, which unfortunately got cancelled after just 13 episodes. All her other roles were single episode guest appearances, brief cameos, and short films. She has not won or been nominated for any notable awards yet and coverage is minimal at the moment. If she gains notability in the future, someone can always recreate this article The Legendary Ranger (talk) 21:24, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep Power~enwiki (talk) 19:36, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not notable enough at the moment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.79.113 (talk) 00:39, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. apparent consensus. I urge Icewhiz to continue to work on the article DGG ( talk ) 09:53, 29 May 2017 (UTC) DGG ( talk ) 18:47, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kamran Farid

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apparently doesn't pass WP:GNG. cited sources are not independent and reliable. clearly an autobio. Saqib (talk) 05:33, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep but remove the "Philanthropy" and "Controversy" sections. Power~enwiki (talk) 19:37, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
why keep ? please provide reason. --Saqib (talk) 07:21, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The article has way too much detail on these things. Co-founding a $500 million company is notable. Being a party to non-notable lawsuits is not. Power~enwiki (talk) 02:12, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Remove "Philanthropy" (or reduce - which I just did), but most definitely keep lawsuits - which is why he is notable. the "edible arrangements" by itself doesn't make him notable (though it is an interesting business and did get some coverage). His serial lawsuits (and coverage of) alleging discrimination against himself, Muslims, and Islamic institutions - quite a collection of cases - push him over the notability line. Convinced by going over Google news hits.Icewhiz (talk) 20:43, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to University of Sheffield. Bishonen | talk 23:00, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Clifford Dental Hospital

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fails WP:ORG. hospitals are not inherently notable. the coverage is rather routine and local for Sheffield. let's see if the usual suspect turns up to this AfD. LibStar (talk) 02:19, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • delete fails GNG. a directory entry. Jytdog (talk) 02:38, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. There are very few specialist dental hospitals in the UK. This is one of the best-known and the teaching hospital for a notable university dentistry department. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:20, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
please provide actual evidence of being "best known ". LibStar (talk) 10:46, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Ideally keep but at least merge/redirect. There seems to be quite a lot of coverage in old books judging by GBooks but without available access. Even if the hospital itself is potentially not notable, it's part of notable entities, such as Sheffield Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust and University of Sheffield, two possible targets for redirecting/merging. Per WP:ATD there is certainly no reason to delete this page completely. Regards SoWhy 10:40, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Providing the search results of searching google books is not a valid AfD argument. Those could be all passing mentions. There needs to be multiple sources with signfiicant discussion of the subject, so that we can have an actual WP article and not a directory entry. See WP:NOT. Jytdog (talk) 13:15, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am well aware of the policy, thank you very much. That's why I wrote "ideally", hoping that someone with more access to such books can find the required coverage. However, I think we can both agree that per WP:ATD-R deletion is not a valid outcome if the article title would make a useful redirect, can we not? Regards SoWhy 13:53, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect - Either target would suffice, but I think University of Sheffield is slightly more appropriate. That way, the history is kept if someone wants to develop the article further. Clearly, as it stands it does not appear to meet notability criteria. Onel5969 TT me 13:10, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to University of Sheffield. Insufficient sources for notability.  Sandstein  13:59, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ammad Azhar

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seems not a notable enough director to pass WP:FILMMAKER. directed only one film Whistle (2017 film). Saqib (talk) 05:31, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. A Director is a director even if he has directed one Film and Ammad Azhar is directing more films which are in the pipeline and shall be added/updated soon. Please be assure that whatever information is entered is authentic and can be proved with reference. Sorry i am new to wiki but im sure there are multiple pages regarding new directors who have made only one film. Kindly keep the page and there shall be more information updated soon. -- Soulmatrix (talk) 12:39, 6 May 2017 (UTC)Soulmatrix (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Note to closing admin: Soulmatrix (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. per WP:SOCKSTRIKE: the puppeteer !vote should be struck as well, as per the puppet account below. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:33, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Cited sources are not independent and reliable enough to be cited. This director is not yet notable enough, its WP:TOOSOON. WP is not WP:CRYSTALBALL so when and if he direct more films, a bio will be created. --Saqib (talk) 08:04, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. the article Ammad Azhar should be given a chance as the film page Whistle (2017 film) exists with all related references and artists page are also added then why not the director. Im sure more reference links can be added. Jamshamuk (talk) 1:09, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Rajevski

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fails WP:NHOCKEY and WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 15:09, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete He has not played at the highest level of hockey, either for his club or national team, so WP:NHOCKEY is not met. I found no significant independent coverage of him to support any claims that he meets WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 16:49, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NHOCKEY. SW3 5DL (talk) 00:25, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  16:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fatma Sultan( Daughter of Murad III)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murad_III already mentioned in this... no separate article required India1277 (talk) 05:23, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Subject isn't notable, garnering mere mentions here, here, here, here. I can only assume the motive for this article is a recent TV show wherein this character is portrayed; the content should be collated with content about the show before being spun out. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:14, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete (or redirect to Murad III). Unless she did something noteworthy an Ottoman princess (who probably spent her whole life in the women's quarters is unlikely to be notable. He appearance in a semi-fictionalised TV series does not make her notable. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:02, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete - I agree that there isn't much here. I see repeated mention that she married a Grand Viser and that she possessed a notable translation of an astronomy/astrology book, here (one of Christ Troutman's links). Her husband was, I think, Kanijeli Siyavuş Pasha, who also married another Fatma Sultan, but this is unclear to me. I don't think a redirect is necessary, but it might be helpful if she were mentioned at the dab page, Fatma Sultan. Smmurphy(Talk) 16:13, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 10:37, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Parr

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  • Page Bob Parr was speedy-delete-proposed by User:Morvoren6969 as {{db-author}}, but he did not create the page, and several other people have worked on it, and it has many incoming links, and Bob Parr from the description looks somewhat noteworthy. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:05, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • So why but the page up for AfD then? Morvoren6969 did not create the page (as you say), so that user can't request Db-g7. Can I please suggest a speedy keep? Schwede66 09:32, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep' shouldn't even be nominated for AfD as no reason given. Meets all the appropriate criteria for notability. NealeFamily (talk) 10:15, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Speedy Keep as no proper reason given and meets notability standards. J947(c) 20:10, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Comments in favor of delete were in line with Wikipedia policies and guidelines, while those in favor in keep were not. Kurykh (talk) 22:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ice Poseidon

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Questionable notability for this YouTube person. Unsupported claims of significance (one was previously supported by a self-published claim before I replaced that with a cn tag; another had a cite that failed to support the claim, also replaced with a cn tag). Article has previously run into CSD A7 twice. I'm not convinced by the article in its current state and feel that notability is not clearly established. Murph9000 (talk) 04:59, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is a possible WP:BLP1E in there, in terms of the bomb hoax on a commercial flight, but if that's the only supported notable thing, then I believe the article fails overall BLP notability. Murph9000 (talk) 05:13, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There are multiple notable events that can be validated by major news broadcasting companies(abc,fox..) Mrs.Nesbitt (talk) 15:52, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The first two attempts to create the page were defintely not legitimate attempts to create a proper wikipedia page and were just to troll. - unsure if that makes a difference but probably should, as this is the first real sourced article.

Also I agree, before the bomb threat, and permanent ban by Twitch, the article probably didn't deserve to be created.

I'm unclear on your statement that there are too many primary sourced articles, which in particular? As most as secondary sources. Jimmybobbyson (talk) 06:11, 6 May 2017 (UTC) (unsure of formating of these talk pages, feel free to fix formating if needed).[reply]

Ice Poseidon is the top live-streamer on the Internet. Murph9000 is a jealous hater. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8802:1202:700:654B:547F:82D0:779B (talk) 05:51, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ice_Poseidon is worthy of a wikipedia article the same way pewdiepie is. Ice_Poseidon is leading the way in real-time video streaming and has an audience of 20,000 on average everytime there is a broadcast. He has sponsorship from corporations such as logitec. This article was created most likely as a troll attempt but like Ice_Poseidon it has went viral and a decent attempt was made to turn it into a genuine article by his fans. The initial article contained poorly worded sections(including some by myself) which were then later changed to the standard that wikipedia sets. As the article currently stands ( [1] ) it is currently incomplete as it was locked so anyone wishing to make correct changes are unable to do so hence the article looks like garbage. In a few days when the people who created accounts to correct the article are able to then they will provide more credible sources and return the page to wiki standards.2A02:C7F:862E:9300:5D90:BC87:C1B4:33CB (talk) 15:43, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Fails WP:GNG. There are no in depth articles about this fellow. At best he is WP:BIO1E for the plane thing, but otherwise, not at all notable. SW3 5DL (talk) 00:33, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Jimmybobbyson: If you want to keep the article you need to ivote 'Keep' and add this new source to the article. In addition, the article would need to be rewritten. But I'd add that this probably won't be enough because he's still not widely notable. See the guidelines here. SW3 5DL (talk) 14:02, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete no videos with >1 million views, very few at >100k. Being banned from Twitch doesn't establish notability. Power~enwiki (talk) 19:39, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Very popular streamer. Having no youtube videos at high views is irrelevant when he is a streamer. Also the most notable and questionable twitch bans A Boar (talk) 12:38, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note The dubious claims which were previously unsourced, and that I previously tagged with {{cn}}, are still unsourced despite having a single Kotaku source near them. As far as I can see, the cited article does not come close to supporting the claims of the most famous IRL streamer on Twitch and the highest amount of viewers on the entire platform are entirely unsourced and nothing more than puffery which appears to be somewhat disconnected from reality. Quite frankly, I do not believe either of those claims to be close to the truth, I do not see any evidence to support them, and see them as nothing more than an extreme and promotional exaggeration. Roughly half of the current sources are not reliable sources, so do not support the content associated with them, many are primary or self-published. I stand by my original delete nomination. Murph9000 (talk) 02:00, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete fails WP:GNG Prevan (talk) 02:29, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to List of Malaysian films of 2003. (non-admin closure) feminist 10:35, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

MX3

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Fails WP:MOVIE and WP:GNG as failed to find credible sources. QianCheng虔诚 04:34, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Music therapy. (non-admin closure) feminist 10:34, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sound healing

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no apparent evidence that this is a recognized mode of therapy. DGG ( talk ) 03:53, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep with edits. I can't review the first two sources on the current article, but don't they establish notability? One of the results on my first Google search was an embarrassingly credulous puff piece from The Guardian. This from The Telegraph was on the second page of results. A search for "sound therapy" plus "bma" found e.g. this and this. The article needs reworking to separate the science from the pseudoscience but there seems to be a real topic here at least. Mortee (talk) 13:55, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • That said, the better title for the topic of those later sources might be 'sound therapy', currently a redirect to 'music therapy', which is distinct. If "sound healing" should be about the spiritual practice only, my impression is that it ought to be notable based on the mass of material about it online, but the sources about it are inherently unreliable (at least for normal claims; for statements such as "some believe..." they're fine). That leaves me less sure what the right approach is. Mortee (talk) 14:02, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - fails WP:GNG. It seems to be an attempt to rebrand music therapy with a different name. MIght become a thing but for now it seems WP:TOOSOON. SW3 5DL (talk) 15:20, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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@Jytdog: It's not really a recognized form of therapy so a redirect seems moot. SW3 5DL (talk) 05:24, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:45, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rita Conte

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I doubt notability here: everything is based on the appearance in one music video, and there is nothing otherwise to show notability as a performer. DGG ( talk ) 03:51, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 19:47, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Will Raee

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Fails WP:FILMMAKER. Article has no RS. External links are only passing mentions. Insufficient in-depth independent coverage. MB 03:28, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: I found no significant coverage. SL93 (talk) 00:13, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Fails WP:FILMMAKER. Nothing in depth at all. No wide coverage at all. He got a mention in Variety but otherwise, nothing. It's WP:TOOSOON. SW3 5DL (talk) 15:15, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Clear consensus for deletion. North America1000 01:04, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of references in Overwatch

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WP:TRIVIA - Wikipedia is not TV Tropes, and any references need to be well sourced by third-parties, otherwise this is all Original Research MASEM (t) 03:23, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t understand why third-party sources are necessary. All that they do is repeat the facts listed in the Wikipedia article. A true source would be Blizzard themselves describing these references.
By the way, List of Pixar film references does not have a citation for every item on the list, so should that article not be deleted as well?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 03:40, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The very basis of Wikipedia is writing articles according to what third party, reliable sources can verify. It's a core piece of how we write prose, and how we determine notability. Your question is like asking "Why do tricycles have to have 3 wheels?" - Because that's what they fundamentally are by definition. Same here. Also, your Pixar article Isn't particularly a good example either - it's tagged for clean up itself. Sergecross73 msg me 12:52, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @PapiDimmi: WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not an argument. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 04:00, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as fancruft/trivia, impossible to secondarily source. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 04:00, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Maybe such an article is possible if appropriate sources were available, but the existing article is uncited fancruft. Example: The "Jail" spray, available for all heroes, has the caption "Go directly to jail", which is a reference to the "GO TO JAIL" card in the original 1933 board game Monopoly. I mean, how stupid can you get??? WP:TNT at the very least. EEng 04:19, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Actual sources would be screenshots or videos, but that’d be copyright infringement, wouldn’t it? I don’t get why some obscure “news” website has to repeat what the Wikipedia article says for it to be considered valid.
I wouldn’t bothered if I hadn’t have spent hours on writing the article, linking to pages, and researching. I don’t get this OR policy.
Again, why can List of Pixar film references provide facts without references?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 05:05, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Just because X said Y, and in a separate work Z said Y, does not mean X is referencing Z. It might be, it might not be. That's why we need third-party sources to make that judgement for us. I do know that we can source that Mcree was modeled after The Man with No Name from Blizzard themselves, but that's about all we can source to that extent. And again, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a valid argument. I do think that the Pixar film article is weak, but also to its fairness there is a LOT of coverage of Pixar's self-references in third-party sources to make such an article work. It definitely does not exist for Overwatch. --MASEM (t) 05:16, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Blizzard will never verify any of this, but that doesn’t mean that the information is false. A link to PC Gamer saying that the claims are true doesn’t make much of a difference, does it?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 05:18, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
With PC Gamer being a reliable source, yes it does as it takes out any original research associated with making that connection. --MASEM (t) 05:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
How does it do that? Please explain.
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Why is a YouTube video not a reliable source? PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 22:35, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If it's a video from a reliable source, like IGN or Eurogamer, it'd be okay. If it's just a random person who uploaded it, then it's going to fail WP:RS, WP:USERG, WP:SPS, etc. The bigger issue is probably that you're trying to source like a 50 point bulleted list with a single short YouTube video. That leaves about 98% of the article unsourced even if it was reliable. Also, no offense... but you seem have an awful lot of questions on the very basics of Wikipedia policy. It may be easier if you try to read up on these things yourself, rather than continuing to defiantly ask over and over again at this AFD. Sergecross73 msg me 22:49, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What difference does who uploaded it make?
Anyway, I will read Wikipedia’s policies the day I want to spend a couple years reading several billion pages on the Internet.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 22:50, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you were making any effort to understand what people are telling you, you wouldn't have follow up questions like that. If you're not going to make an effort, your articles are just going to keep getting deleted. It's up to you. But this approach sure isn't working well so far... Sergecross73 msg me 23:11, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am making an effort by asking these questions. Answer them, then.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 23:14, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia sources need to be written by reliable sources. Since you refuse to read up on what that means - it's stuff provided by people like professional journalists. Not just any ol' random person on the internet, which is a large percentage of YouTube videos. Sergecross73 msg me 23:28, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I do understand the “no original research” policy.

I have added multiple sources and will add more if I come across any. I’m not sure whether these sources are considered reliable, however. All they do is recite the facts provided in the Wikipedia article, which is what is expected, is it not?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 23:41, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Neither SegmentNext or Twininfinite are considered reliable sources. They don't have an established history to judge their reliability. --MASEM (t) 00:20, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Then what makes a website a reliable source? All they do is recite facts, so I don’t see how one website reciting facts is more reliable than another website reciting the same facts.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 00:21, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
WP:RS -"Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". For SegmentNext and Twininfinite, we don't have enough to give any idea about their reputation (and from what I've seen, they don't have much of one). We keep a list of video game-specific sources at WP:VG/S for what we've checked already. --MASEM (t) 01:20, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What would make Twinfinite and SegmentNext reliable, exactly? They are just reciting the facts in the article.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 01:22, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. As it currently stands, we have an unwieldy list of entries amounting to "this line is similar to that line", some of which are probably deliberate, some of which are less so, and some of which would seem to be a bit fanciful (a former manager of mine used to say "Once more into the breach" towards the end of long days, and I know for a fact she wasn't quoting Shakespeare). These claims are supported by sources of dubious reliability (per WP:RS, this is an important consideration regardless of one's personal feelings, and more so in the days of "alternative facts") and it seems as though the company responsible for the game itself won't confirm any of this anyway, reading through the discussion here, which rather damages the chances of reliable sourcing ever happening. There are other venues on the internet for such discussions of "references to stuff" to be made. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 01:12, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Most of these aren’t just “similar lines.” When McCree, a cowboy-style character, quotes Western movies, you know that it’s deliberate.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 01:15, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
How do you "know it's deliberate", though? BigHaz - Schreit mich an 01:21, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think it’s safe to assume that a Western hero quoting Western films verbatim is not a coincidence.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 01:24, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Two problems right there. First is that if we were to delete every single other reference in this list beyond the character referring to Western movies, the list becomes two entries long (there's a third entry for this character, but that relates to a nu-metal song, so that's a different case), which is then somewhat debatable as to whether it needs to stay as a separate article. Secondly, "it's safe to assume" in a situation like this is completely against the idea of Original Research and Reliable Sources. Unless and until a reliable source says that something is the case, rather than it being "safe to assume" that it's the case, it can't be written into an article here. The recent brouhaha about the Duke of Edinburgh's retirement is a good example here - there were statements floating around saying it was "safe to assume" nobody had died, but until something official had said what was going on, nothing had been confirmed. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 01:30, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Responses like this make it clear that you absolutely do not understand the original research concept. Sergecross73 msg me 01:44, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I do, indeed. Am I not allowed to ask questions? I’ve already provided sources, but they’re, apparently, not reliable, for whatever reason.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 03:52, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you have understood the concept original research, you wouldn't have written an article consisting almost entirely if it. (Honestly, it'd probably be more of an issue if you understood it, and then created an article like this. That would be knowingly breaking policy over and over and over again.) Sergecross73 msg me 04:08, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Why does it belong on the Overwatch Wikia wiki?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 04:50, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Because we have a rule (WP:NOTTRIVIA) and some others (WP:GNG) and they don't. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:10, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What does “snow delete” mean? PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 22:46, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SNOW. Sergecross73 msg me 00:56, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Another useful link for User:PapiDimmi: WP:BLUDGEON. --Guy Macon (talk) 02:39, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I’m not contradicting every comment. PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 02:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Only 75% of them, true. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 02:46, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Are you people deliberately finding reasons to make me look bad? Why is responding to the comments about the article that I created a bad thing?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 14:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, you are doing a fine job of making yourself look bad without any help from anyone here. Are you deliberately trying to get yourself reported at WP:ANI and then blocked from editing Wikipedia? Because that is exactly what will happen if you keep bludgeoning this discussion. Please stop your disruptive behavior now. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You said yourself that you haven't bothered to read the "5 million" policy & guideline pages, and your replies show the lack of understanding of policy & guideline, so it appears as if you are trying to force your stance while refusing to understand WP principles. There are a lot of policy and guideline pages, but we don't expect editors to know them all but they do need to be aware of the principle ones (namely, WP:NOT, WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:NPOV, and WP:BLP) and the shape of others (eg knowing where to look to find guidance) as part of the competence of being an editor. You're not showing that in your replies here. --MASEM (t) 15:12, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, this was pretty much what I was going to say. Its good to ask questions, but PapiDimmi, you keep asking the same ones over and over again, and you do it so defiantly, as if you have any grounds to challenge it on, all the while actively stating that you refuse to read up on policy. You only have yourself for the negativity you receive in response to such an approach. An aggressive approach without the policy knowledge to back it up will not work well on Wikipedia. You've got to chose one or the other - learn policy, or stop being so argumentative. Sergecross73 msg me 15:29, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And moreover, at least in the first instance, your questions have been met with answers explaining the issues the article has and addressing the concerns you've raised. It can be galling to learn that something you've spent a while on isn't the kind of thing you were "meant" to have spent that time on, and speaking for myself I know I've been there years ago and not enjoyed the feeling either. Ultimately, you have to choose either to learn and move on, or move on without learning. There are outcomes at the end of both choices. "But whyyyyyyyyy??????" really does nobody any favours as a response to the answers you've received. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 23:42, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
All right, I partly agree with you. I do have an understanding of most of the policies mentioned, yet I ignored them, because I really want the page which I spent hours on creating to stay.

I understand that if it violates Wikipedia’s policies, it should, of course, be deleted. It initially broke the “no original research” policy, and seemingly others as well, but I did add several sources. I was told, however, that these sources are unverified, and I don’t understand why, which is why I was asking questions.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 03:13, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To respond to the points you're making here (I'll italicise your comments and respond to each in turn): I do have an understanding of most of the policies mentioned, yet I ignored them. There's a problem right there. As Sergecross has pointed out, knowingly ignoring/flouting policy is worse than simply doing what you think should be done because you don't know there's a policy saying otherwise. This appears to be a recurring theme here, and it points to behaving in something other than good faith. If you think the rules are silly, you're welcome to argue against them (in another forum, certainly not here) and see if others agree (in this instance, I'd rate that very unlikely), but unless and until they are otherwise, they apply to this article as much as today's featured content. I really want the page which I spent hours on creating to stay. Understandable, but remember that you don't own the article you've written. I've suggested that it could be written somewhere else, and Piotrus has actually given a name of a somewhere else it could be written - as well as why, but you knew that already. Given that you know at least now what the rules are, and may well have known at the time that you spent hours creating the article, you can at least see why it doesn't meet the standards which will allow it to stay, can't you? I was told, however, that these sources are unverified, and I don’t understand why. And you've been told precisely why. For want of a better term, there's a heirarchy of sources, particularly in a day and age where practically anyone can create a webpage or YouTube video saying that XYZ is true. Per the applicable policy, to which you've been referred plenty of times, the sources you've provided aren't at the level they need to be in order to be reliable. In the event that there are better-quality sources, the article could be kept or re-created, but at present it looks by your own admission that there aren't, which again means the article needs to be deleted. Again, I get that this can feel like a slap in the face, and I can see that you've had similar difficulties in other places here on Wikipedia, which isn't a fun experience for anyone to have. Behaving in a manner like this when things go wrong, though, really isn't a way to deal with it. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:49, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as fancruft/trivia that does not appear to have received significant coverage in third-party, reliable sources. I am in agreement with the above delete votes/comments. Aoba47 (talk) 14:33, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Article easily falls under WP:GAMETRIVIA. TheDeviantPro (talk) 07:33, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. It's starting to snow here. It's gamecruft/fancruft. Very poorly sourced, also, which doesn't help its case. Anarchyte (work | talk) 09:32, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. North America1000 19:42, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Al Chalk

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Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:MUSICBIO. Article has no independent RS. MB 03:07, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment - I've added reliable sources for some of the claims in the article. They don't demonstrate notability but I'm not !voting yet because I'm not sure what else is out there. Mortee (talk) 13:21, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well, sources at least. One of them is a published book but may or may not be reliable. I included it only to validate the use of the adjective "fictional" in the sentence, though; the rest of the sentence would stand without it. Mortee (talk) 13:23, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Fails WP:GNG, WP:NACTOR and WP:MUSICBIO. Maybe he'll become more notable, but for now it's WP:TOOSOON. SW3 5DL (talk) 00:38, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Xploration Station. (non-admin closure) feminist 10:31, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Animal Science (TV show)

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Article has not been updated since September 2012. It also states the show is airing on Qubo, but there are no sources cited to prove this claim. DBZFan30 (talk) 02:23, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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