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::::Yes, his English is BE, but that doesn't mean that much, given England's colonial history. (And this may be a good place to plug ''[[2666]]'', which also makes a foray into Chile.) He's university educated, perhaps ten years younger than me, but not much more, and not more than ten years older than me. I also don't think proxies are involved; he's of good faith in that respect, and I bet that unplugging the modem made for a nice surprise: hey! I can edit again! He's white, probably upper middle class, better educated than me, and I assume can travel and access the internet from anywhere. If I were him I'd go to where Kudpung lives, edit from there, and throw everyone for a loop. Thank you WCM. Summer, it's "pity", with one t, and the IP would probably change your "him specifically stating" to the gerund, "his specifically stating". That kind of BE. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 00:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Yes, his English is BE, but that doesn't mean that much, given England's colonial history. (And this may be a good place to plug ''[[2666]]'', which also makes a foray into Chile.) He's university educated, perhaps ten years younger than me, but not much more, and not more than ten years older than me. I also don't think proxies are involved; he's of good faith in that respect, and I bet that unplugging the modem made for a nice surprise: hey! I can edit again! He's white, probably upper middle class, better educated than me, and I assume can travel and access the internet from anywhere. If I were him I'd go to where Kudpung lives, edit from there, and throw everyone for a loop. Thank you WCM. Summer, it's "pity", with one t, and the IP would probably change your "him specifically stating" to the gerund, "his specifically stating". That kind of BE. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 00:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::That's an awful lot of unsourced info for a "BLP".[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Best_known_for_IP&diff=649477324&oldid=649477151] - [[User:SummerPhD|<span style="color:#D70270;background-color:white;">Sum</span><span style="color:#734F96;background-color:white;">mer</span><span style="color:#0038A8;background-color:white;">PhD</span>]] ([[User talk:SummerPhD|talk]]) 01:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::That's an awful lot of unsourced info for a "BLP".[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Best_known_for_IP&diff=649477324&oldid=649477151] - [[User:SummerPhD|<span style="color:#D70270;background-color:white;">Sum</span><span style="color:#734F96;background-color:white;">mer</span><span style="color:#0038A8;background-color:white;">PhD</span>]] ([[User talk:SummerPhD|talk]]) 01:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::Perhaps "demonstrated that he has no ''intention''" would have been better?&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 02:54, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

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Formal restriction

* Note I have moved the next two comments from the project page to here. Chillum 23:31, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Two admins, Drmies and Yngvadottir, have unblocked with a WP:0RR restriction. In this context, editors are advised to carefully examine recent behavior, and block as appropriate if there is recidivism.

IP has breached the 0RR restriction, and is back to block-on-sight status.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kww (talk • contribs)

  • Note: editor is under no formal restriction, but Kww issues this as an ukase. Drmies (talk) 01:04, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What the heck is this about? There is no requirement for there to be a formal restriction on an IP hopper to block them block evasion. Saying the user is blockable is based on sense, not a proclamation from a tzar. Regardless there is plenty of agreement on ANI that the user is disruptive. Chillum 23:26, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Any admin who feels there is not a formal restriction on the editor can, of course, stuff beans up their nose and see what happens. Otherwise, we have a three month block for the editor to wait out or evade. Otherwise, we have a very real block. The editor knows where to turn to if they feel the block is a war against quality. The rest of us know where to go to make sure violations have consequences. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:02, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Incidentally, it seems to me that Drmies and Yngvadottir are clearly WP:INVOLVED in this case. Corrent? - SummerPhD (talk) 03:14, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
While they clearly have a strong point of view on the matter(which I do not fully understand) I don't think they are involved unless they have acted in other than a purely administrative role in this matter. If this has happened I have not seen it. Chillum 04:12, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Chillum: SummerPhD is correct about their involvement. They have been involved with the content.[1][2] OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:51, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Chillum 05:57, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thus, for example, closing an ANEW discussion and unblocking are bad ideas. - SummerPhD (talk) 18:07, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

From the UK? Edits from far away can't be him?

In various places, we've stated this guy is from the UK and we now have some speculation that edits from far afield are not him. This edit and this one are clearly from "Best known for IP" (same personal attacks, complaints about "falsely" being called a vandal, their very first edit claims they were reverted for no reason, etc.). The IP traces to Chile. Whether this means he travels a lot or if it's part of his deliberate block evasion is moot. We cannot dismiss IPs based on location. - SummerPhD (talk) 17:37, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As long as you are aware of these particular extensions, there should be no room for doubts. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 17:38, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It is trivial to make your IP appear randomly on the Earth. I suspect this user is finding a lot of their regular IPs blocked and may be using proxies. Chillum 17:47, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This, of course, also answers the absurd claim that, gosh, sometimes his IP just changes. No doubt it probably does, but him specifically stating he deliberately changes his IP and now the evidence that he is deliberately hiding his identity removes a bit more of the "Oh-pitty-the-poor-defenseless-anonymous-editor" defense being bandied about. - SummerPhD (talk) 18:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Guys, been observing this guy for some time, as @Drmies: will attest I don't have much time for him. However, A) its clear from his use of language either British educated or British origin and B) the reporting from British IP is compatible with being on holiday in the UK and returning to Chile. I've never formed the opinion he was using proxies. Don't get me wrong, his attitude sucks and I have no sympathy for any block you may wish to introduce for block evasion but I doubt proxies are part of the picture. My 2c. WCMemail 00:06, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, his English is BE, but that doesn't mean that much, given England's colonial history. (And this may be a good place to plug 2666, which also makes a foray into Chile.) He's university educated, perhaps ten years younger than me, but not much more, and not more than ten years older than me. I also don't think proxies are involved; he's of good faith in that respect, and I bet that unplugging the modem made for a nice surprise: hey! I can edit again! He's white, probably upper middle class, better educated than me, and I assume can travel and access the internet from anywhere. If I were him I'd go to where Kudpung lives, edit from there, and throw everyone for a loop. Thank you WCM. Summer, it's "pity", with one t, and the IP would probably change your "him specifically stating" to the gerund, "his specifically stating". That kind of BE. Drmies (talk) 00:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's an awful lot of unsourced info for a "BLP".[3] - SummerPhD (talk) 01:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps "demonstrated that he has no intention" would have been better?—Kww(talk) 02:54, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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