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23 October 2014

– A checkuser has completed a check on relevant users in this case, and it is now awaiting administration and close.

Suspected sockpuppets

• Gomu gomu no pistol (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• 188.221.108.172 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
• Nafsadh (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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Master created the List of notable 3D printed weapons and parts in September and added a 'See also' link to many articles such as this. They were removed and he complained about link removal on Andy Dingley's talk page. Subsequently, the sock appeared almost exclusively to restore the same link. Given his socking history and several indefinite blocks from which he has been unblocked, I intend to indef block the master and sock and hardblock the IP (pulled from archive and showing active) for more than one year. Requesting CU to confirm and run sleeper check.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 18:25, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think the sockmaster here is Nafsadh: a student with overlapping interests whose editing increases in volume from the start of term - 7th October, the same date his many (seriously, I'm impressed here) socks all spring back into life. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:31, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What! Come on. First, I do not even like anonymity. I often had feud over edits with M2; though I have not been involved in Islam related articles for more than a while, where I met M2. I spend more time in Bangladesh related articles. – nafSadh did say 20:45, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

• Comment If we look at the case just prior to this one (about a year ago), the accounts were unrelated but claims were made by at least one of the accounts that they were paid to do the editing. So, I think what we are looking at is WP:MEAT in which, as before, individuals may be paid for their editing. I thought that after the last incident that this behavior might end, but apparently it never will without some type of action. The conclusion drawn last time was that paid meat puppetry is not a violation of sockpuppetry policy. However, this behavior has now occurred repeatedly over a number of years, so may be it best falls under long-term disruption and therefore WP:NOTHERE.--I am One of Many (talk) 21:23, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• • The policy violation here is that meat/sockpuppetry is being used to create artificial support for edit-warring across several articles. I'll block anyone whose doing that...paid or not.
     — Berean Hunter (talk) 15:00, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• I'd assumed a bad case of WP:OWN from the behaviour on the list article. Might be sock, meat or whatever, but none of it is impressive. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:59, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

THis is BS. If Gomu gomu is banned then i should be banned on same grounds because i also edited similiar articles to Misconceptions2 and I also like anime, and believe it or not, i like choclate, and ice cream, to. Oh, i also drink water. Does that make me a meat of Miconceptions2 as well?--Calcula2 (talk) 16:02, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my response to that question elsewhere.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 16:51, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• This block is harsh. I was also accused of being a sock of M2 about a year ago. I know him off wiki. I enjoy editing wikipedia anonymously and with my accoutn every now and then. If you know someone off wiki should be be considered meat puppetry.--Priti.shetty (talk) 16:55, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You edited briefly a year ago, then nothing since until October this year (to remove an M2 sockpuppet note), when you re-appeared on the same day as Gomu. Please. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:06, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• The block looks rather hasty, based on only one admin's suspicion and investigation was inconclusive and it is rather unlikely that M2 mastered sock. Furthermore, suspicion, investigation, judgement and ruling all are done by only ONE person!, who also ignored other users' input. – nafSadh did say 19:28, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• What! This is ridiculous! Andy Dingley just reported me as master of socks! Cannot I even give my opinion on an investigation? – nafSadh did say 20:53, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, 'Master of Socks'. I'll grant you that much. This was artistry.

WP:PACT

Andy Dingley (talk) 20:59, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't get it. Anyway, why do you think I would run one or more socks? I do not even like to use a different nick than my real identity. I found why M2's talk is in my watchlist, I put a tb on his talk. – nafSadh did say 21:09, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

• The technical results with regard to Gomu gomu no pistol are  Inconclusive, bordering  Unlikely. This could be WP:MEAT or maybe someone unrelated pissed at Andy Dingley and targeting his edits, but CU isn't helpful determining a connection in this case.--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 20:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Indeffing meatpuppet and blocking master and IP for one month. I believe the interest in anime by the puppet on their talk page combined with weapons more closely aligns this user to Misconceptions2's posse rather than Andy's detractors. I've blocked more conservatively than originally planned to let Misconceptions2 know that he is on very thin ice and had better stop with the shenanigans. I'll leave it for another clerk to close.
   — Berean Hunter (talk) 15:36, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Gomu gomu no pistol (talk · contribs) now requesting an unblock. Nick (talk) 16:57, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]