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::If you read my previous comment. I said before Jose sent me screenshot proof and also provided the skype log to me. --[[User:Misconceptions2|Misconceptions2]] ([[User talk:Misconceptions2|talk]]) 02:26, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
::If you read my previous comment. I said before Jose sent me screenshot proof and also provided the skype log to me. --[[User:Misconceptions2|Misconceptions2]] ([[User talk:Misconceptions2|talk]]) 02:26, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
*Is this some sick Joke? How can this investigation not be over even now... after almost 1 month ! I already stated in the AFD. I aint NO SOCKPUPPET !!!--[[User:Acmel48|Acmel48]] ([[User talk:Acmel48|talk]]) 02:39, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
*Is this some sick Joke? How can this investigation not be over even now... after almost 1 month ! I already stated in the AFD. I aint NO SOCKPUPPET !!!--[[User:Acmel48|Acmel48]] ([[User talk:Acmel48|talk]]) 02:39, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
* Everything is in the Skype chat log that I have. Don't worry, I will submit it all for investigations and any other documents needed, even if it includes contacting my ISP if possible. Original ones--not like the ″screenshots″ that you claim to have. And as for those links you provided, it is my first time to see those links. This is the only account I have with Marie013 as username. Anyway, we can simply wait for the CheckUser investigations. I have a clear mind and conscience that I am telling the truth.[[Special:Contributions/182.18.248.160|182.18.248.160]] ([[User talk:182.18.248.160|talk]]) 09:05, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
* Everything is in the Skype chat log that I have. Don't worry, I will submit it all for investigations and any other documents needed, even if it includes contacting my ISP if possible. Original ones--not like the ″screenshots″ that you claim to have. And as for those links you provided, it is my first time to see those links. This is the only account I have with Marie013 as username. Anyway, we can simply wait for the CheckUser investigations. I have a clear mind and conscience that I am telling the truth.[[User:Marie013|Marie013]] ([[User talk:Marie013|talk]]) 09:07, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


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08 August 2013

– An SPI clerk has endorsed a request for CheckUser. A checkuser will shortly review the case.

Suspected sockpuppets


Misconceptions2 appears to be either a sockpuppeteer, a meatpuppeteer, or both. Users 1 through 26 (group 1) are single purpose accounts that edit user pages in Misconceptions2's user space or in their own user space with the help of Misconceptions2. Users 27 through 34 (group 2) are also single purpose accounts that voted in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of attendance figures at anime conventions and/or Talk:List of attendance figures at anime conventions. There are two patterns characteristic to these puppets. Pattern A users edit almost entirely their own user pages and/or Misconception2 user pages. Pattern B start out with a few minor edits of articles (sometimes apparently randomly selected articles) and then their edits turn to single-purpose edits. Pattern A is most commonly used by those users that started editing from July 11 to July 20. Pattern B emerges from July 18 to August 3. Pattern B first appears in users 1 to 26 (group 1) and continues through users 27 to 34 (group 2). The continuity of Pattern B between groups helps establish the connection between the two groups.

Note for group 2, they all start editing from July 20 to July 23 in apparent anticipation of List of attendance figures at anime conventions nomination for deletion. The timing of the creation of these accounts fits perfectly with the discussion here [1] in which there is consensus that List of attendance figures at anime conventions should be nominated for deletion and misconceptions2 asks for at least 3 days to continue to work on issues with the list article on July 19. The list is nominated for AfD on July 31.

  1. User:Jurieshe23 begins editing on July 11 in the sandbox created for them by Misconceptions2 [2] and Jurieshe23 exclusively edits in their own sandbox. Misconceptions2 subsequently blanks their sandbox [3]. Pattern A
  2. User:Salembouzidi begins editing on July 11 on Misconceptions2's user page manga and Misconceptions2's user page "anime" [4]. These are the only pages Salembouzidi edits. Pattern A
  3. User:Raihaneng begins editing on July 12 in the sandbox created for them by Misconceptions2 [5]. Misconceptions2 subsequently blanks their sandbox [6]. Raiheneng only edits own sandbox and Misconceptions2's anime2012sandbox ‎ [7]. Pattern A
  4. User:Rajkamalsingh083 creates own user page "episodes" episodes on July 14 and Misconceptions2 immediately starts editing it here [8]. Rajkamalsingh083 only edits on own "episode" page [9]. Pattern A
  5. User:FFAGE2878 begins editing on July 14 by creating a user page episodes and Misconceptions2 begins editing it [10]. FFAGE2878 only edits their own "episode" page [11]. Misconceptions2 subsequently blanks their "episodes" page [12]. No Pattern
  6. User:Yasin666/anime is created on July 15 by Misconceptions2 with the contents of Jurieshe23's sandbox [13] and then blanks it [14] 10 minutes later. Yasin666 never edits [15].
  7. User:Eclatbs_13py creates a user page an an anime subpage on July 15 with the same content blanked from Yasin666 [16] and Misconceptions2 then blanks it [17]. Pattern A
  8. User:Alma3rifa begins editing on July 15 when Misconceptions2 creates a user page "baseem" for them with essentially the same content as for the previous users [18]. Misconceptions2 then creates a new list article List of attendance figures at anime conventions and then blanks the "baseem" subpage [19]. Alma3rifa only their user pages and Misconceptions2's [20]. Pattern A
  9. User:Vijilp begins editing on July 15 and creates an "anime" page, which is subsequently is blanked by Misconceptions2 [21] and beside their user page, this is the only page Vijilp edits [22]. Pattern A
  10. User:Ashique-Mahmud1991 begins editing on July 16 when Misconceptions2 creates a user page "table" for them with essentially the same content as for Eclatbs_13py [23]. Misconceptions2 subsequently blanks the table page [24]. Pattern A
  11. User:Shamim96 begins editing on July 18 with edits to Misconceptions2's user page "anime1998sandbox" [25] and this is the only page Shamim96 edits [26]. Pattern A
  12. User:Odesk.ramzan begins editing on July 18 and edits Misconceptions2's user page "anime2001sandbox" [27] and this is the only page this user edits [28]. Pattern A
  13. User:Shoma2 edits Misconceptions2's user page "anime2011sandbox" on July 19 [29] and this is the only edit Shoma2 makes [30]. Pattern A
  14. User:Amir.ishaqq makes their first edit July 19 and continues to make minor edits (creating on article stub) until they create User:Amir.ishaqq/harem‎ [31]. Misconceptions2 immediately begins editing this page[32]. Pattern B
  15. User:Ogosalo edits Misconceptions2's user page "anime" on July 20 [33] and this is the only page this user edits [34]. Pattern A
  16. User:Jafor rockman begins editing on July 21 and subsequently creates "sand" page with Anime convention attendance table [35]. They edit it exclusively on this page, which is also edited by Misconceptions2 [36]. It is then blanked by Jafor rockman [37]. The contents is pasted by Misconceptions2 into List of attendance figures at anime conventions [38]. Pattern A
  17. User:Awais 47 makes their first edit on July 21 and continues making minor edits until they start editing User:Misconceptions2/ecchi [39]. Pattern B
  18. User:Josepaulopineda begins editing on July 22, makes a few minor edits [40], then creates and edits the user page "Jose", which Misconceptions2 also edits [41] and they edits Misconceptions2 "episode" page [42]. Pattern B
  19. User:Baki03 makes their first edit on July 28 and continues making minor edits to random articles until the begin editing User:Misconceptions2/harem [43]. Pattern B
  20. User:Johnmorales777 makes their first edit on July 28 and continues making minor edits until they start editing User:Amir.ishaqq/harem [44]. Pattern B
  21. User:Natashanayak begins editing on July 29 and made minor edits before editing Misconceptions2's "manga" page [45]. Pattern B.
  22. User:Mr.neel makes their first edit on August 1 and continues making minor edits until they start editing User:Misconceptions2/romance [46]. Pattern B
  23. User:Article contribute makes their first edit on August 1 and continues making minor edits until they start editing User:Misconceptions2/comedy [47]. Pattern B
  24. User:Arfani100 makes their first edit on August 1 and continues making minor edits until they start editing User:Misconceptions2/action [48]. Pattern B
  25. User:Marie013 makes their first edit on August 1 and continues making minor edits until they start editing User:Misconceptions2/sports [49]. Pattern B
  26. User:Hajra Bostan makes their first edit on August 3 to their user page and continues making edits to user page until they start editing User:Misconceptions2/drama [50]. Pattern A
  27. User:Arifulbk makes first edit on July 20 and continues to edit own user page and minor edits to a couple of other articles. The then vote delete at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Football League All Stars Football (Philippines), 6 minutes later vote Keep at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of attendance figures at anime conventions, and 5 minutes later votes Keep at Talk:List of attendance figures at anime conventions [51]. Follows a combination of Patterns A and B.
  28. User:Gokul.gk7 makes their first edit on July 20 and continues making minor edits until they vote Keep at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of attendance figures at anime conventions [52]. Pattern B
  29. User:Lonelydream makes their first edit on July 20 and continues making minor edits until they vote Strong keep at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of attendance figures at anime conventions and also Strong keep at Talk:List of attendance figures at anime conventions [53]. Pattern B
  30. User:Bmshafiul makes their first edit on July 21 and continues making minor edits until they vote KEEP at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of attendance figures at anime conventions [54]. Pattern B
  31. User:Junellene.sapinoso makes their first edit on July 21 and continues making minor edits until they vote Keep at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of attendance figures at anime conventions and also comment at Talk:List of attendance figures at anime conventions [55]. Pattern B
  32. User:Bnseagreen makes their first edit on July 22 and continues making minor edits until they vote Keep at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of attendance figures at anime conventions [56]. Pattern B
  33. User:Acmel48 makes their first edit on July 23 and continues making minor edits until they vote Keep at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of attendance figures at anime conventions and also Keep at Talk:List of attendance figures at anime conventions [57]. Pattern B
  34. User:Kenjots makes their first edit on July 23 and continues making minor edits until they vote Keep at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of attendance figures at anime conventions and also Keep at Talk:List of attendance figures at anime conventions [58]. Pattern B I am One of Many (talk) 16:26, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Users 27 through 31 (as of today) have not edited since July 31 and users 32 through 34 have not edited since August 5th. That these users edit with such a high degree of synchrony is astronomically improbable by chance.--I am One of Many (talk) 04:08, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

35. User:Mohsinmallik, added by Juhachi, appears at the very least to be a WP:MEAT puppet. The first edit was in May 2011 [59] and there was no activity for over 2 years until July 20 when a few minor edits occurred before voting to keep here [60] and here [61]. Then, no activity from August 4 to August 11 until they vote to keep here [62]. I did not include them in the first listing because the account was created 2 years earlier, but the editing behavior after the first edit perfectly fits the behavior of group 2.I am One of Many (talk) 15:27, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
36. User:Priti.shetty makes their first edit on August 5 and continues making minor edits until August 8, and then they vote Keep at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of attendance figures at anime conventions (2nd nomination) five days later. Pattern B
37. User:Akosicristina First edit July 21, last edit August 7. The suspicious point being the last edit, it's summary being restored prices due to clear consensus on talk page however Akosicristina never participated the discussion. How weird.Pattern B
38. User:Kamil Hussain Edits once on August 1 and then edits User:Misconceptions2/comedy2 exclusively [63]. Pattern A (User will be notified)
Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

  • Wikipedia:Don't be quick to assume that someone is a sockpuppet
  • Please get this over with quickly and do the check user so I can be cleared of these falsified and exaggerated accusations
  • As for those people who edited my userpages and those peoples whose user pages I have edited. I admit I know them. They have worked with me to improve drafts on userpages. I am aware of meat puppetry and these people who worked with me to improve article drafts on userpages I could have told them to help me and vote on the List of attendance figures at anime conventions afd page. but i never told a single one to do that because that would be canvassing and not a single one voted on that articles Afd. There was also some off wiki coordination which took place on google chat. As you can see on my userpage it says: "If you would like my google chat or skype id, please email me", this has been there for 1 year and I have coordinated with the people who have been in my contact list from ages ago--Misconceptions2 (talk) 01:56, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • As for those who voted keep. I do not know them and never interacted with them on userprages or talk pages, you can see their contribution history. There is no evidence that i told any of those people who voted keep to vote keep . Some who voted keep on afd were admins. I only know those who edited my userpage or those whose user pages i edited
  • This does not appear to be accurate. Arifulbk starts editing on July 20 and then creates sandbox on July 21 [64] with "Manga artists" and then blanks the sandbox 10 minutes later [65]. About three hours later, Salembouzidi pastes this list into Misconceptions2/manga [66]. Arifulbk does not edit for 10 day until they vote here on July 31 [67]. This is similar to the group 1 meatpuppets, you admit to. So, it appears that group 2 are your meat/sock puppets as well.
They are not meat puppets, they have never ever posted articles for me or voted on my behalf or edited because I asked them to, they were willing to help me. They are independent of me. They worked together with me to improve drafts on userpages, I also helped improve drafts on their userpages. I also do not know Ariful and never edited his userpage and he never edited mine, he may have worked together with Salem.--Misconceptions2 (talk) 22:38, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have been banned in the past for sock puppetry and the 2+ years since then i have never used socks. On 04 Sep 2011 (the last time I was accused of sock puppetry) I was cleared of sock puppetry: here --Misconceptions2 (talk) 00:31, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • This SPI along with the checkuser really needs to happen. While the 2011 case was a false alarm, the two previous cases were confirmed along with the fact - and I think someone else mentioned this - that Misconceptions2 was still using their sockpuppet accounts to lie and deny their sockpuppetry to the bitter end. Perhaps this is also a false alarm in which case there won't be any risks for running the check anyway, but the requester has really laid out very clear, detailed evidence that absolutely seems to warrant a check. MezzoMezzo (talk) 10:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I certainly am not a sock of Misconceptions2. I want this to be verified asap . This is quite unfair and I think it is Bad Faith for "I am One of Many" to accuse so many this easily.--Gokul.gk7 (talk) 15:41, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have been hired by Misconceptions2 through an "agent" in oDesk. He then tasked me to do the edits for him [[68]] and said I will be paid thereafter. However, he was unresponsive after I completed the table and I was not paid for the job. I see he was advertising another "wikipedia job for $250". I have no idea of his purpose for the edits as I accepted the "job".Marie013 (talk) 00:40, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • He first asked me to complete at least 50 random / minor edits, cautioning me not to edit popular articles as this would cause for my account to be blocked. Then he asked me to complete this table [[69]]. After not hearing from him in Skype, I can see he has posted status as "need someone with wiki account opened at least 2 months ago" Marie013 (talk) 00:50, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am willing to submit my Skype conversations with him and help in any investigation matters involving this user. Marie013 (talk) 01:05, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is amazing and also explains why Misconceptions2 tried to pressure me into somehow withdrawing this case [70]. I am One of Many (talk) 01:52, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • This person Marie013 is a fraud. I have been working together with misconeptions2 to help him create new wikipedia articles and used his user page as sandbox for drafts and he also used mine, I never accepted any payments for this, since I wanted to also create some anime articles. The agent that person (Marie013) is referring to is me, but it is not as it seems. I told this person to work on Misconceptions2's user page. Misconceptions2 has nothing to do with it. But After I refused to pay her for money I apparently owe her, she started to blackmail me, she even stated that "il see to it he (Misconceptions2) gets banned" if I do not pay her. She has since deleted me on skype and was insinuating that I will not get any sleep over this until I pay up. Misconception2 has almost nothing to do with her. Do not trust a word she says, she is just trying to get Misconceptions2 banned as revenge because she was not able to extort money from me.--Josepaulopineda (talk) 02:09, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, I spoke to Marie013 via IRC, and I pointed her towards this SPI of which she apparently was not aware. Huon (talk) 03:45, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is the first time Josepaulopineda has edited in 3 weeks and it happens an hour after Marie013 maker her report. Misconceptions2 was editing during the same time that Marie013 was making her report. It appears that Josepaulopineda attempt to take the blame is a desperate attempt by Misconceptions2 to get off the hook. I am One of Many (talk) 04:01, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have talked to Josepaulopineda, he showed me screenshot proof that Marie013 did say "il see to it he gets banned. :)" to Josepaulopineda via skype (including a malicious smily face, lol). You should ask her yourself on IRC whether she did or did not say that about someone who she doesn't even know. I have never ever talked with Marie013 before. All my interactions with her were through Jose. This is only way I know her, and I certainly did not promise anyone money in exchange for editing my userpage and no one ever paid me for editing their userpage draft. Whatever Jose did or did not promised her is none of my business. Since it was my userpage she was editing, she probably thinks I am responsible for her problems --Misconceptions2 (talk) 04:32, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have notified all users not already aware of the SPI. In retrospect we should have done so straight away. Huon (talk) 06:15, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • When will this SPI investigation be over, its been going on for a long time--Misconceptions2 (talk) 06:39, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • IP (103.15.165.42) Deletes contents of User:Misconceptions2/romance and states in the edit summary "making default page cause of no payment deal".I am One of Many (talk) 07:07, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • I made that article and blanked it. I am in the same boat as some of the other users. I was also messaged by Jose to help by Jose and happily agreed to contribute and work together to improve wikipedia by making anime articles for free as part of a group calloboration. But I was finding out that it was taking up too much of my time. I asked Josepaulopineda to pay me if he wants me to continue to help him, although initially I agreed to help for free I had a job I was busy with and wiki was getting in the way. So I couldnt give this hobby of mine anymore time. He refused to pay me. So I refused to work and blanked the page, I had to put my job first, thats why I wrote: ""making default page cause of no payment deal". I hope it didn't give you the wrong idea. I think Marie is in same boat as me, she probably also wanted some money after all the free work we were doing.--NeeL (talk) 22:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • First of all I don't know Misconceptions2 that well. I was contacted by Josepaulopineda on skype and was asked by him to help make articles about Manga and Anime on wikipedia. I agreed to this as I am a huge anime enthusiast. I also told some of my friends if they would be interested in helping such as "Article contribute". I was never offered any money for this. Though it would be nice if I was. Josepaulopineda told me that Misconceptions2 and some other people are also creating anime articles, I was told if I need any help I should ask him or Misconceptions2. Josepaulopineda told me he also contacted Marie013, however I dont know this person and I am not the sock puppet of any of those accounts. Josepaulopineda can better explain this spider web, he probably has links to a lot of those accounts who have been creating anime articles. Me and Jose have only worked with people who made anime related aarticles. Those people who edited other articles and voted on articles have nothing to do with me or Jose --Johnmorales777 (talk) 14:15, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I spoke to Huon and he told me to comment here. (1) I don't really know him. (2) I know this user http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Josepaulopineda (3) Pineda contacted me on skype and told me to edit the userpage and told me to help make anime articles. Just like the above user I was willing to do this because I was very interested in the subject, I also wasn't paid anything. I doubt Pinenda offered money to anyone. This was a collaboration. I was told be Huon Calibrations are allowed on wikipedia. So why should be and Pineda be banned, we didnt do anything disallowed. Huon said to me that it seems like that Pineda "tried to fabricate a consensus to keep an article that should have been deleted". He is referring to the article I helped create. But Pinenda never asked me or anyone I know to vote on that article and I have never voted. So this has got nothing do to with me
Comment: User:Salembouzidi You have one major problem with your story. Your account was created on July 11[71] and User:Josepaulopineda's account was created on July 21 [72]. So, the user's account who contacted you didn't exist until 10 days after you created your account and started editing Misconceptions2's user pages on July 11?--I am One of Many (talk) 18:17, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So what, these 2 users know each other through skype. It doesn't matter if there accounts are made at different times. You so easily accepted Marie013's false allegations about me, when she is trying to get me banned for no good reason other than because she has a grudge against Jose. But you try to find holes in this comment. --Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:03, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The point is that Marie013's account makes sense. Putting together these huge tables with sources is a lot of work and it looks boring. How you could get people to do these monotonous tasks on tables in your user space (not articles in Wikipedia) for free is a bit hard to swallow. She made 50 random edits as she was told to do in article space. If she was just volunteering to work on your anime projects and was an enthusiast as some of the others have claimed, why didn't she edit anime related articles in those 50 edits? Why didn't any of the others who edited articles in article space edit anime related articles? There is not even one that I can find among all the accounts above. The bottom line is her story passes the credibility test.I am One of Many (talk) 23:25, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have no interest in anime--at all. And surely it wasn't voluntary work for my part. He showed me how to fill up those tables through Teamviewer. He made the first two entries of the table as Misconceptions2. Promised to pay me $100 if I complete it all within 10 days and $25 bonus if completed within 5 days. After I completed it, he had a series of excuses for me like he was very busy and that he was hospitalized. That's what made me seek help because I wanted to delete the tables I made. Searching through wiki rules, I learned that my contributions are public. So then I tried to seek help through IRC and met Huon and he directed me to this SPI. PS. I have never ever met Josepaulopineda in Skype nor anywhere else. Marie013 (talk) 23:45, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Marie013. You are either a liar or your just confused, heres why:
(*)First you said you were offered $250 and that another $250 job was offered to you, now you say you were offered $100. Why did you change your story?
(*) You said you have no interest in anime AT ALL. But this , and this say otherwise. Cause they have anime in them, the first link is full of anime.
(*) You have not even said where all these jobs were offered/advertised either. You could at least give a link so easily if you were telling truth
(*)You told jose: "il see to it he gets banned. :)" this is the skype log Jose provided: Jose said "Why did you say those things about the Misconceptions2 user? If my friends account gets banned for what you said i wont even check the work". Then later you said: "okay then. have a good sleep if you can. " and "il see to it he gets banned. :)", did you or did you not say "il see to it he gets banned. :)", why would you say "he" and not "you" if you think the person you were talking to was misconcenptions2, you should of said "il see to it you get banned. :)". Please explain this?
(*) Clearly you acknowledged that there are 2 people through the use of "you" and "he", you said you don't know Jose. If you claim to not know jose and claim you know me, then tell me who is other person?
P.S I edited the first 2 rows on your user page on Joses request to help you understand how to do it , after I did that he messaged you on skype and said "I did the first one for you", although it would have been better if he said ""Misconception2 did the first one for you", but he preferred to keep his words simple. I also did this for many others Users like Salembouzidi and Mr. Neel see here . However that does not mean I am the one who told them to edit my userpage. Just because it was my userpage you edited and because I made first 2 edits, do not assume it was me who told you to make those edits and who talked to you on skype--Misconceptions2 (talk) 23:57, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

extra) I just realised something, after checking Jose's skype chat log, I see that you did not even ONCE ask him his name. Putting aside the fact that you said "il see to it he gets banned.", where HE=Misconception2. which indicates that you know it was NOT me you were talking to on skype. Under such circumstances you can NOT be so sure you were not talking to someone called Jose when you say " I have never ever met Josepaulopineda in Skype nor anywhere else." --Misconceptions2 (talk) 01:17, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I'm confused. If you = Misconceptions2 are checking Jose's skype chat log, is Jose and Misconceptions2 the same person? If not, how can you check Jose's skype chat logs with other people? I am One of Many (talk) 02:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If you read my previous comment. I said before Jose sent me screenshot proof and also provided the skype log to me. --Misconceptions2 (talk) 02:26, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is this some sick Joke? How can this investigation not be over even now... after almost 1 month ! I already stated in the AFD. I aint NO SOCKPUPPET !!!--Acmel48 (talk) 02:39, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Everything is in the Skype chat log that I have. Don't worry, I will submit it all for investigations and any other documents needed, even if it includes contacting my ISP if possible. Original ones--not like the ″screenshots″ that you claim to have. And as for those links you provided, it is my first time to see those links. This is the only account I have with Marie013 as username. Anyway, we can simply wait for the CheckUser investigations. I have a clear mind and conscience that I am telling the truth.Marie013 (talk) 09:07, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

Were you planning on inviting Misconceptions to comment here? Spartaz Humbug! 20:12, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I figured that Misconceptions2 would get a notification, but I'll place a notification on their talk page.--I am One of Many (talk) 21:04, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • CheckUser requested - Self-endorsed by clerk for checkuser attention - I'm endorsing this for the very least on editors 27 - 34 in the numbered list, as users who all registered at around the same time and piled on to an AFD together. The rest of the evidence is pretty concerning, and perhaps a CU against the rest of the accounts is warranted as well. Misconceptions2 has been caught socking in the past, which he also vigorously denied until blocked. Someguy1221 (talk) 01:58, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Checkuser note: Comments like "This really needs to happen soon", no matter whether they're coming from the accused or people with some other interest in the case, are completely useless. I am trying to get this done but sometimes there are delays. So please refrain from making comments like that, as you're just wasting everyone's time by doing so. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 10:26, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
6 days is not enough? When do you admins plan on taking a look at this? Seems like yo could care less--Sinjanthu (talk) 16:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes no. You probably have no idea the degree of due diligence that checkusers go through in complicated cases and its better to get the answer right rather then do it badly quickly. Spartaz Humbug! 20:46, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special%3ADiff%2F570239291

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