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Girichaitanya

Hello. Kindly look into the revisions in the article Chaitanya Giri. I have cited a couple of references in the article´s text that include the name Chaitanya Giri. I hope the article now meets your suggested norms. (talk) Chaitanya Giri 13:44, 19 December 2012 (CET)

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Deprod

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Dan Whitehurst, which you proposed for deletion, because I think that this article should not be deleted from Wikipedia. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:44, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. I always like a second opinion on things like this. GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:25, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

La Fiesta

Hi! Kindly take a look at Foodarama#La Fiesta The Foodarama article does mention La Fiesta. What's more, the La Fiesta coverage allows the article to meet the WP:GNG WhisperToMe (talk) 21:22, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much. I missed it! Mea maxima culpa! Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:24, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

January 2012

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article La Crescenta-Montrose, California, please cite a reliable source for your addition. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for how to cite sources, and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Please note that you can't use the Patch website as a reference for itself. You must use independent, third-party sourcing that indicates the notability of this specific website (not the patch sites in general). TNXMan 21:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this info. Do you have a source for it? It is pretty obvious that the Patch is covering La Crescenta if you go to its site. Much like the New York Times covering New York. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:36, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, thanks for the "welcome," after all these years. Where are my cookies? Sincerely, your pal, GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:37, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I do not have a source. It is true that the New York Times covers New York, but it is a notable publication (as shown by its extensive article). The La Crescentia Patch website, however, is not notable. Adding a link to their website is the same as adding a link to a La Crescentia auto-parts store or local La Crescentia restaurant. It doesn't add anything to the article and is basically advertising. TNXMan 21:40, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
How about Patch_Media? GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:44, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
But Patch Media is based in NYC, not La Crescentia. They are notable, but their affiliates generally are not. TNXMan 21:50, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The various Patch sites are pretty notable in the areas they serve and at least are worthy of being used as External Links, since they provide info about the communities in question. I don't believe the External Links have to be notable. Anyway, this dispute might be better handled on a different plain than this one. Take out the Patch here if you want—it doesn't make that much difference to me (somebody else added it in the first place)—but please correct the grammar of the remaining sentence. Thanks for your attention. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion contested: Marcus T Grant

Hello GeorgeLouis. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Marcus T Grant, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Bmusician 07:26, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AfD and PROD notifications

Hey George. Back in November, you got either an AfD or PROD notification, and it was during one of the template testing project's experiments. If you could go here and leave us some feedback about what you think about the new versions of the templates we tested (there are links to the templates), that would be very useful. (You can also email me at swalling@wikimedia.org if you want.) Thanks! Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 19:06, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a page of guidelines

I have no idea how you do this, but I posted here hoping someone would see your help desk question.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:39, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Moore

I added content for Edward E. Moore related to Indiana using the source you suggested. I was doing research at the Indiana Historical Society and they had a copy in their research library. Rosalina523 (talk) 19:52, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Your contribution adds very, very much to the article. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 12:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction

Hi, just wanted to reach out to someone that is WAY more savvy than I am in this Wikipedia editing process. While I openly admit to be very new to the formal editing process/language used (this HTLM, php, code stuff gives me headaches when I try to add/edit information accurately), I do know how to do research and cross reference information and historical facts.

This is basically the purpose for me reaching out to you. For some time now, while reading about L.A.'s/local communities history, I have regularly come across articles historically tied to the Northeast L.A. communities of El Sereno, Lincoln Heights, and Montecito Heights and noticed that most of them have or have had misinformation added, mainly involving this "Rose Hills" community.

To get to the point, I live in El Sereno, have studies and researched the history of the local communities within N.E.L.A., and have come across many instances where unverified and historically inaccurate information concerning the community of "Rose Hills" has been added to many articles pertaining to this area. When I checked and crossed checked the edited history on a few of this articles, hopelessly trying to edit them to keep them historically and factually accurate, I have noticed that you have edited and corrected a few of them which had "Rose Hills" misinformation.

Let me say that I have nothing personal against this person/people, but facts are facts and when I see BS, I think it needs to be called, checked and corrected. Without making seem like if I'm on a witch hunt, I am asking you to please consider taking a look at the Wiki-site for "Rose Hills, Los Angeles" and if you are willing, tell me what you think about the facts presented. I don't want tell you what I found incorrect just yet, I would like to see what you think first.

I understand if you don't care to do this favor me, but from what I seen and read of your editing work, you too have a high standard for accurate and true history. Maybe you can consider it a favor to the greater good of Wikipedia, because the fact is if no one else edits the information, I will and I suck at using the editing codes.

Well, whatever you decide to do, I have to thank you for keeping the high standards in regards to the history and facts presented on Wikipedia. Hope to hear from you soon.

Where the hell do you find the tildes key? Finally.

PedroCazuela (talk) 07:13, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Responses are at Talk:Rose_Hills,_California#Copied_from_User_talk:GeorgeLouis. GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rose Hills, California

Sorry, it's "Rose Hills, California" not "Rose Hills, Los Angeles". My mistake.

PedroCazuela (talk) 07:23, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback on deletions

As you may have noticed, I have been trying to help 'fix' the deletion system-- not just for my article but for the next person in my place-- somebody who makes good faith contribution that's verifiable, cites reliable sources, but may be "not sufficiently notable".

I posted on VPP, got lots and lots of feedback, virtually all of it helpful, and have compiled all the ideas into an essay, Wikipedia:Deletions and Openness.

I would really value your input. Some of the recommendations are more compelling than others. My personal favorite is the idea of a shared drafting space-- draft-quality like userspace with the collaborative nature of like mainspace.

How can we fix this, so that future new users who make good-faith contributions don't get rejected entirely? --HectorMoffet (talk) 02:27, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That looks really good. I did some editing and hope you will continue to improve it. I like your suggestions and will comment on the Talk page over there. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:10, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I understood and shared your concerns about this article, but the subject matter is clearly notable (there are multiple books about the Mashhadi Jews, as well as piles of other material and even an extensive medical literature), and is already discussed in another better-written article, Allahdad incident. So I deprodded this one and redirected it to the other one. I hope you approve of my solution; if you have a better idea, by all means let me know. Best,--Arxiloxos (talk) 20:00, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. You know a lot more about this subject than I do. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 23:06, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: St. Thomas College, Palai

Hello GeorgeLouis. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of St. Thomas College, Palai, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article has been edited since it was tagged and is no longer a copyvio. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 06:28, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Vandalism"

Please be careful not to revert inappropriate but well-meaning edits as vandalism, as you did here. Such edits do not fall under Wikipedia's definition of the term, and calling them vandalism can discourage new users from contributing. GreenReaper (talk) 16:51, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, GreenReaper, but your definition of vandalism is a lot different from mine, and I resent your attitude. Thank you very much, my friend; I think you meant well by your message, but it seems very peremptory to me, and I certainly don't enjoy receiving such "advice" after all my years and all my work for Wikipedia. Any message that begins with "Please be careful" is paternalistic and insulting, and I hope you will not use it again in your admonitions to other editors. Thanks again. Sincerely, still your pal, and a friend to Wikipedians everywhere, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and thanks for your work on the Max Rafferty article; it was sorely in need of help. But I am puzzled why you keep removing the dates of birth and death from the lead; they are clearly supposed to be there right after the name per MOS:DOB - and in the infobox too per the same source. I guess they could be removed from the text, since as you say they don't need to be there three times, but they clearly are supposed to be in the lead and the infobox. Likewise, the person's nationality and profession are almost always Wikilinked in the lead; see the examples at WP:OPENPARAGRAPH or pretty much any biographical article. Can we come to some agreement here so we don't get in an edit war? Thanks. --MelanieN (talk) 23:24, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your query, for which I greatly appreciated the gentle tone. I hope I am responding in the same way: Actually, the exact dates of births and deaths are very much optional in the lead, not obligatory. The exact admonition is When full dates are provided in the text or in an infobox, year-pairs can be sufficient for the lede in some cases; in such cases no spaces are used, e.g., "(1943–1971)". You can't very well take out the exact dates from the text or from the infobox (for that would leave either one incomplete). Personally, I believe also that the exact dates clutter the lede by making it too long and burdened with minor information, but that's just my opinion, and I actually rely upon the text of MOS:DOB to support my change. When the article was begun, there was neither a proper lede nor an infobox, so the matter was moot (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Max_Rafferty&diff=next&oldid=54950096). Somebody later added the thrice-told information, which I think should have been squelched much earlier on the basis of repetitiveness. Anyway, that is my reasoning. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:47, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK, well, it seems much more common to put the full dates in parentheses after the name, but if you prefer it this way the rules seem to allow it. I have added the death date to the text since it's supposed to be one place or the other. --MelanieN (talk) 22:30, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Terrific. I also like to follow the recommendations of Style guidelines for biographies of California public officials in dealing with this kind of article. GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:51, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I note that you are the author and only contributor to those "guidelines," so your reasoning seems rather circular. In my experience the year-only format is NOT the most common usage, for California or anyplace else, and the preferred usage at the MOS page you link to is (May 1, 1920 - July 10, 2006) rather than (1920-2006); the latter is merely a permitted variation "in some cases". --MelanieN (talk) 03:37, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you are correct. You don't have to use the full dates in the ledes even though many articles DO use them and many editors find the full dates not to be obtrusive. Others, however, think that repeating material is to be avoided and that ledes should be as kept as free of clutter as possible. I suppose it depends what one is used to. After a long period of habituation (reading dictionaries and other encyclopedias for example) I find that having to read the exact birthdate and death date slows down my comprehension, and that's why I don't use them in the lede for the articles I write and why I try to edit them out of other articles when I run across them. Of course, if anybody objects to my changes, well, I just back off because there really is no RULE about use or non-use. It's a lot like the infobox-vs.-misinfobox disagreement: There is no right or wrong, just whoever got there first, I suppose. Also it is similar to British vs. American spelling: No right, no wrong, just usage. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:26, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Talk page stalker here (big fan of both of your work): I think the dates thing may just come down to what we're used to. Those of us who spend a lot of time on bios get used to one format or the other; in my case, after having been gently "guided" on my first several bio attempts some years back, I've gotten used to seeing the full dates in the lede sentence, and to not seeing the places of birth and death there, but there's probably no overwhelming reason why any of that is better or worse than some different custom. For the occasional user, it may not matter so much, as long as the info can all be found quickly and in logical places. (And I suppose that one could also argue that this is why the infobox is there.)
Anyway, what I really want to do here is to compliment the two of you on your rapid and impressive collaborative improvement of the article and its sourcing. Nice work! --Arxiloxos (talk) 16:59, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the nice compliment, Axiloxos! I just stumbled across the article (it linked from another one I was working on) and realized the article didn't give any sense of who Rafferty was. So I started expanding it, and then GeorgeLouis turned up and started fixing it too, and I think it is much improved.
I am like you, in preferring the full dates of birth and death, but NOT the places, in the lead sentence. It may be partly a matter of taste and what we are used to, but it is also the prime example given at the Wikipedia style page. So I would really like to ask GeorgeLouis not to change existing articles to his preferred style - and not to list his preference as the "rule" at Style guidelines for biographies of California public officials. George, would you be OK with that? MelanieN (talk) 16:41, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. You say above "Of course, if anybody objects to my changes, well, I just back off". But in this case you didn't back off; you made the change twice, which is why I started this thread. MelanieN (talk) 16:48, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Cleanup

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BLP notification

Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard for a note regarding List of California public officials charged with crimes. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of California public officials charged with crimes is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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May I suggest a quick title change to List of California Officials Convicted of Crimes? Richrakh (talk) 21:41, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your suggestion, but there is nothing inherently wrong with a list of people charged with crimes and some of them later being cleared, or at least not convicted. The fact of their being charged will always be findable to the inveterate Web surfer, but the rest of the story demands to be told as well. Those who want to bowdlerize history should be ashamed of themselves, and I am just happy they are not working for the New York Times or Le Monde. There is a moral in this list to be stressed to every politician—that crime does not pay and that their sins, if such they be, will out. Likewise to every prosecuting attorney, the moral is to prepare your case well and to be prepared to lose as well as to win. For grand jurors: Don't be so sure that you are right, and always be wary of the political motives of your local district attorney.I am sure that is why this list has had more than a hundred hits almost every day it has run, thousands now—not because it is salacious, but because it is instructive. I can see individual attorneys, editors and students all over the state consulting this list with eyes open and mouth agape, as it to ponder that, "I didn't know there were so many shady characters—or damaged souls—in local politics." If this article is deleted, or its focus changed, it will be a sad, sad time: Wikipedia shut down its site a few weeks ago and urged us to "Imagine a World Without Free Knowledge." Right here, right now, today, some are demanding not a world, perhaps, but at least a state of 37 million people without free knowledge of those public officials who have either served them—or raped them. I certainly will have no part of that. Sincerely, a friend to all, GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:58, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SOAPBOX, WP:GREATWRONGS. EEng (talk) 11:34, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

California Club and discrimination

GeorgeLouis, for your entries on incrimination at private clubs in California please read my 1985 LATimes piece on the Music Center fund-raising victory party, which came after my coverage prompted changes there which made the Music Center more inclusive, though not its victory party venue.

http://articles.latimes.com/1985-07-10/entertainment/ca-7817_1_fund-raising — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidcay (talk • contribs) 10:18, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Another California Club clip

And this may be of interest -- lots of details on California and Jonathan Clubs

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-06-05/local/me-9433_1_california-club — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidcay (talk • contribs) 10:24, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Gaga coming?

There is a story I read today which to me should have some place in this article. Some residents wrote to Lady Gaga asking her if she would give a concert in the nation. It would be unique as it would be the first time an entire country has been to one of her concerts. If she accepts, of course it would probably get into the article but even if not it seems to me that it should be included someplace. But I wasn't sure where to put it. Here's the link that I found: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10797048 BashBrannigan (talk) 13:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Common law

GeorgeLouis --

In your revisions to "Common Law," you undid two things --

1. The four meanings of the word "common law" had specific labels, "Connotation 1," "Connotation 2," "Connotation 3," and "Connotation 4." By removing the labels, the body of the article doesn't make sense.

2. The jurisdictions at the bottom were in historical order, you undid that organization (that's why the dates were there!)

I've "undone" all your edits. You're welcome to restore them, gently, to preserve the two organizational principles above.

Word to the wise -- no man is an island. When you see an article that has as long an edit history as "common law," and that already has a very high "quality" rating, assume that there's accumulated wisdom of years there, and tread lightly. I see your observation of "hostility" -- yeah, I can imagine. Hopefully there's a lesson learned in there.

Boundlessly (talk) 16:47, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I don't need any lessons. It is OK to make editorial changes, but not to slam others. Thank you for your attention, and I hope you have a nice day. Sincerely, from somebody who knows more than you think he knows, your friend, 17:11, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

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Amendment to Dyke White page

Thankyou for moving the photograph for me. I was aware that it was in the wrong place, but didn't know how to move it. PamN (talk) 12:34, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Crenshaw mural

Hi there. I ran across File:Mural-Crenshaw-District-Los-Angeles.jpg while categorizing images on commons. I've cropped the commons version (see File:Crenshaw la mural.jpg) and I think it came out less pixelated. Your thoughts? Mackensen (talk) 21:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I didn't take the photo. I only improved its contrast via iPhoto. The new image you referred to above seems really, really dark to me — just as it was before I worked on it. If you can hold off on sending it to WikiCommons, I will take another photo when the sun is shining directly on the wall — in the a.m. hours — and upload it. Let me know. Thanks, GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:41, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like a plan to me. Mackensen (talk) 22:48, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It will be a while, a week maybe, before I can do this. GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:51, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Editorial

Hi GeorgeLouis - I was responsible for the most recent edit of the editorial prior to your amendment. I have been looking into the various definitions of 'editorial' recently. It got me thinking about the lack of transparency regarding authorship, and how this potentially allows senior journalists to reinforce their own work elsewhere in the paper. I have been looking for grounds to critique the practice and was thinking of starting here: http://www.apme.com/?page=EthicsStatement "ACCURACY The newspaper should guard against inaccuracies, carelessness, bias or distortion through emphasis, omission or technological manipulation." On the grounds that: Unattributed Editorials allow an incorrect public perception regarding authorship to persist (Oxford Vs urban dictionary/ wiki definitions) They create distortion though emphasis by the implied authority of 'the editor' or 'the paper' - both artificial constructs. The omission of the Editors name, and the names of those who write in his/ her stead, and lack of transparency regarding who makes the decision on what to print is irreconcilable with the openness and disclosure which newspapers demand of others. I started a petition calling for change but am not getting as much traction as I would like - due I think to some of my background wording. http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/An_end_to_unattributed_anonymous_Editorials_in_New_Zealands_Newspapers/ I am really interested in the history of the newspaper editorial and the implications of the evolving definition and was hoping that you could point me in the direction of some further learning so that together we may improve the wiki definition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Campbell Larsen (talk • contribs) 09:20, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Very interesting page, that. I will digest the whole idea and respond fully within a day or two. Thanks for thinking of me. GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:49, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Libraries

Palms Library pic added. Thank you!! jengod (talk) 14:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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I removed the copy-editing tag you placed on this article, since there are no apparent grammatical or spelling issues to be dealt with. On the other hand, perhaps you saw different issues which need to be dealt with (certainly the article needs more information, such as Gluzman's repertoire, where he has performed etc.), so I thought I would let you know as a courtesy in case you wanted to identify these on the talk page. Alfietucker (talk) 09:55, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for reminding me. I think I had better give up the Rollback right. Can you advise me? GeorgeLouis (talk) 23:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm sorry; I just saw this message, four days late. Can you advise me of exactly what content you are talking about? Normally I fill in the edit summary, but perhaps I missed one. Just send me the diff so I can advise you. Thank you, GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:46, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In regard to the above, I looked back on my edits on the page you cited and could find no place on that date where I did not fill out the Edit summary. Please assist me. Thanks again. GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:59, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Again, thank you. Now that the nomination has become a moot point, I'll answer to the question of a standard for the placement of events on a page. The main criterion, as you've noted is whether it is accompanied by a reliable and verifiable source. My preference is a work that's on Google Books and is from a major publisher or a university press, books found on Google Books, and (more for detail rather than notability) contemporary newspaper articles. Regarding potential vandalism, the only problem we've ever really had with junk being put on these is what we call "birthday greetings"-- usually its for a more recent year (say, 1981) where an IP address writing in something like "Joe Johnson born this day in Cleveland". There are quite a few people who patrol the pages, look over the history of recent additions, and take the stuff back down. Other than that, the pages aren't vandalized that often-- every now and then, we get someone trying to be funny, and it doesn't stay up. Although newspaper references are indispensable in confirming when something happened (and settling conflicting accounts in various books), the real test of whether an event from the time would meet WP:N rather than violating WP:NOTNEWS is whether it received "significant coverage" decades later. Mandsford 02:45, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Is there a centralized place to talk about standardizing the layout for and content of all these articles? GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:12, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Interesting message. Did you get the one I left on your page? What do you think? Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 01:52, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael C. Seto

Thanks for your note. My general concern is that the article was written by an SPA here to promote himself and his ideas, including creating and padding articles about himself and his colleagues. As one of many examples, Association for the Treatment of Sexual Abusers was stubbed and tagged COI by an uninvolved editor for the same reasons as the Seto bio.

  • Generally, I think the bio contains every en passant mention of him in hopes of asserting Seto's notability.
  • I laid out my specific concerns on the talk page and sought other views when the editor would not address what are crystal-clear examples of COI puffery. Since that time, the most egregious specific instances I mentioned have been addressed by uninvolved editors, but I feel there's more to do:
    • The long bulleted quotations from book reviews in non-notable journals are not necessary, per UNDUE and MoS.
    • There's a whole section sourced entirely to Seto's own work rather than to secondary sources (SYNTH/OR). Someone has tagged part of it as OR.
    • The justice.gov source doesn't even mention Seto.
    • The same ussc.gov source is listed 4 times to make it seem like more than it was.
    • In all, about half the sources were written or are controlled by Seto.

I don't believe Seto is notable, but consensus seems to be that he is. The accomplishment that's supposed to confer notability (his book) has not had much impact outside its highly specialized field. The only reason Seto has an article here is because his friend with a COI has a long history of this behavior on Wikipedia. No one else would have written it any time soon. Jokestress (talk) 00:41, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DR/N

Not enough information. Please clarify the dispute or this may be deleted as malformed. There is simply not enough information to identify the current dispute.--Amadscientist (talk) 04:17, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I gave you more.GeorgeLouis (talk) 04:32, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The article James Edwards (Los Angeles politician) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not Notable. See Wikipedia:Notability_(film)#General_principles I checked the files of the Los AngelesTimes and searched the Internet, but there is no reference to this man being Notable except for one term on the Common Council.

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Hi. I'm not sure what you intended by this edit, which redirected the article to a non-existent page, so that it soon got speedy-deleted. I have dug it up, restored the version before your edit, and updated the first reference from the French version of the article so that it works. "Joseph" is the name given in that source, so I guess that should be the title of the article. If you have information that he was also known as José, perhaps there should be a redirect from that. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 01:00, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I've got it! You meant Jose Mascarel. Fixed. JohnCD (talk) 01:07, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
He was probably known as Joseph when he was born in France, but he was José once he got to California. I used his name without the accent because that's the way all the Sources had it. GeorgeLouis (talk) 01:14, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
An interesting character. There are images here which I'm sure you have seen; I wonder if permission could be got for the one in LA town hall. JohnCD (talk) 01:50, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The photo is so old it is out of copyright, so it can be used by anyone. If you want to upload it, that would be fine. GeorgeLouis (talk) 04:22, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NORN Strauss Howe

Hi, I am contacting you because you already commented on the dispute over Strauss-Howe at the No Original Research noticeboard.

I wonder if you could give your thoughts again so that we can wrap up the discussion one way or the other. I know there's a lot of extra stuff over at the board, but basically all it boils down to is this: Is the below statement supported by the two sources below. I think that the "webinar" link isn't even a reliable source, and the LSAY report says nothing directly about Strauss and Howe other than that their "definition" of Generation X was widely accepted. None of the statements below are directly supported. I'd be grateful if you could weigh in, as the other editor and I are at a stalemate.

"Twenty years later, Jon D. Miller, at the Longitudinal Study of American Youth (funded by the National Science Foundation[67] ) presented evidence that the negative stereotypes and predictions about Generation X written in books like 13th Gen were an exaggerated description of youth in the 1970s and 80s. Today, it’s quite the opposite writes Dr. Miller: “if we could use only three words to describe them (Gen X), the most applicable words would be active, balanced, and happy. These words apply to a large majority”.[68] Although Strauss and Howe pointed out some important trends of that era, and the book was well-researched, many of the negative predictions and stereotypes are no longer relevant and the generation has moved on.[69]"


http://lsay.org/GenX_Rept_Iss1.pdf [69]
http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=122044 [68]

Peregrine981 (talk) 09:34, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just stick to what the Sources say, and leave out the interpretation. Sorry I can't be more helpful. If the other editor doesn't accept, you might have to try another tack in Dispute Resolution. Is there an Interest Group on Wikipedia to which you can turn for additional knowledgeable editors? GeorgeLouis (talk) 13:31, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
thanks. That is already helpful since it confirms (at least to myself) that I am not completely crazy. I'll see what we can do going forward. If problems persists we'll have to go to dispute resolution, as I don't think there is a reliable group of people knowledgable on the topic who are active. Best, Peregrine981 (talk) 15:03, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You may be in for a long war: It takes time if the other person is stubborn. You may have to wp:rfc at a couple of other notice boards, but be sure you notify everybody you are doing so lest you be accused of forum shopping. I am in the same soup at Talk:Frank L. VanderSloot, and it seems to be taking forever, as the pot keeps on boiling. Best to be patient. GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:57, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just letting you know that when you added the prod to the above article you didn't leave an edit summary indicating this. Thank you. Rotten regard Softnow 21:16, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ooops ! Thank you ! GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:04, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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You might also notify those who were active at all in the prior RFC/U as they might well have insights pro or con on RIR. Be sure the notice is absolutely neutral in form and content, and is sent to all involved. Collect (talk) 22:03, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't need another charge of WP:Canvass from u-know-who. GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:05, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not change major Signpost titles

Just ask first; why not discuss it? Tony (talk) 12:27, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Tony. Well, whoever wrote that headline really botched it up, and I fixed it. What is the big problem? If anybody is intent on having an incomprehensible headline, he or she can just change it back, and I will consider that I did my best to improve the encyclopedia. See WP:BRD. I don't need to be chided by you or anyone else. Not today. GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:37, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RIR RfC

Hi George I'll comment there when I have time. Meanwhile I would suggest that you remove the quote from Nomo. I agree its not [a bit] out of bounds but its also not relevant on an RfC about RIR. Anyway, that's my suggestion. Best, --KeithbobTalk 16:58, 22 November 2012 (UTC) [reply]

I didn't notice it until you brought it to my attention. GeorgeLouis (talk) 01:42, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, I thought it was probably an oversight. Best,--KeithbobTalk 03:17, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Parley P. Christensen

Hi there, I added the precise date of birth and death because they were available and added for biographical completeness. Hope that answers your question. Lawrence142002 (talk) 07:20, 6 December 2012 (UTC)User:Lawrence142002[reply]

Uh. The article was complete. Days and dates in the lede are not required, and most encyclopedias don't bother with them there. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 07:34, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, LOL!

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Edit warring

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You know, I really resent those two messages; the tone is very belligerent. I haven't seen your reply on the other page yet, and I remind you to WP:Assume good faith. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 01:11, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I replied on my talk page, where you posted. If you didn't watchlist it, you won't see it. I'm not going to reply in two places. And I resent your multiple reverts, when I am simply trying to apply well-established policies and guidelines with which I am very familiar and you apparently are not. So chill. Yworo (talk) 02:04, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
My reversions did not carry with them any aspersions on you or your editing abilities. The expression "So chill." is really rude: Would you say that to any of your office colleagues? I am sorry I have to point this fact of courtesy out to you. I will look at your remarks on the other page pretty soon. Meanwhile, I am writing another article for this fine encyclopedia of ours. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:12, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't cast any aspersions on either you or your editing abilities, and I am sorry if you took anything that way. I have a problem with your behavior, which is apparently to revert without waiting for an answer. That's a problem, as there is no deadline here. Please give things more time and you won't give the impression that you intend to edit war. Yworo (talk) 02:19, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks

George, Thanks for your interest in List of journalists killed in the United States. I'm hoping your interest will be an incentive for you to add information to the page that will will add value to it.Crtew (talk) 15:23, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, since you're not yet making any contributions but you've started a larger discussion, would you please then at least at a minimum articulate your objection(s). I honestly don't see what kind of point(s) you're trying to make. While a wikilink to a policy seems common (bad) practice throughout Wikipedia Talk, I will be expecting you to make your thoughts and arguments complete. There is not yet at this time a complete thought or argument that you have put forward. All I have to go on is a link to a policy and a statement that you don't think crimes are important. That's simply not good enough. Also since you've started this discussion, you may also invite the lists that I have mentioned on that talk page. That would be the decent thing for you to do as this is pulling me away from making useful contributions and you're the one who wants to discuss "something". Please don't take this as a indication that I think you're acting in bad faith, but I'm trying to set some standards here that I expect you to meet. I think you mean well. I just don't see at this point if you understand the issues because I've got nothing to go on. By all means, you are still invited to make positive contributions to the article if you are so interested and inclined. It would be nice to work with you rather than against you! (And I really do mean that in a nice way.) Crtew (talk) 20:53, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody owns Wikipedia articles, neither thee nor me. As I mentioned somewhere else, I don't want to see you wasting your time on something that might very well be deleted after months of your work. That happened to me with a project that was very interesting to me and had thousands of followers, so I know it is possible. It is better to get some feedback now rather than later. I think the list is very iffy, being based upon victimhood, but I would not like to propose it for deletion because the wider community might feel different, and, really, it is just not that important to me. If nobody chimes in from the RFC, then you have ipso facto evidence that the community thinks it is a fine idea, or just doesn't care. Either way, you are ahead. I think these RFCs expire automatically after a while but, if not, I think you could delete them after—say—six weeks, with no harm done. If you do get feedback, you might take what ever it is to heart. In the meantime, just go ahead with the project and improve it as much as possible. Again, simply my opinion: I have no direct line to Anybody in Authority. Buena fortuna. GeorgeLouis (talk) 23:42, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

REPLY TO ARE THESE SOURCES RELIABLE

Hello thanks for the reply on the page - Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard .User:Jmh649 has recommended I read the article on secondary sources, which is what I intend to do. Thanks again for your help --CR.ROWAN (talk) 11:55, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The deletion discussion

George, Would you please put down some relevant reasons for the deletion of the List of journalists killed in the United States. Are there policies that you know about that might make this a real issue. Right now it seems a personal opinion about victims. Crtew (talk) 19:09, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I will do so on the Discussion page for this article. I am sorry it is not clear. This is not personal, but I just am totally uncomfortable with this article. You will see more solid reasons at the Discussion page, maybe even before the day is out. Thank you. GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:21, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

The WikiLove was much appreciated today, thank you. Best of the season to you and yours. Andrew (talk) 19:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Objective opinion

GeorgeLouis, Thanks for your comments at the Chiropractic talk page. I am wondering if you can offer me an objective opinion and any further advice? I enjoy editing collaboratively, but am faced with what appears (to me) to be an unwillingness; I am not sure how to proceed? When edits are made that I feel are inconsistent with policy or reliable sources, I usually revert per WP:BRD and try to initiate discussion. I did this most recently with JzG (an admin) here [2]. From my perspective it seems that when I revert edits that I think are against policyt I am accused of edit warring and the changes are re-instated without consensus; when I try to discuss at the talk page, all that is said to refute my policy and source-based challenges is that I have a Conflict of Interest.

At the discussion of the Consumer Reports source [3] [4], any reasonable discussion is marred by simple COI accusations against me. Then you posted a request to stop the accusations of tendentious editing, so I struck my accusation [5], but in return I get more accusations against me [6]

To me it seems that the edits being made are against policy like WP:NPOV and WP:RS, but they are being made anyways. I don't want to push the issue if my COI is indeed getting in the way, but I don't feel that is the case. For example:

  1. The WHO definition of chiropractic was removed from the first sentence of the lead and replaced with a “historical” perspective with no source [7]
  2. The consumer reports source deleted [8]
  3. Two secondary sources deleted without discussion [9]

Would you be willing to tell me if you think my perspective is accurate, or if I am mistaken? If I am mistaken then I am going to take a wiki-break :) If my perspective is accurate, how do I proceed when the talk page is not working and edits like these are getting pushed-through? Is there an appropriate noticeboard? Thanks Puhlaa (talk) 18:30, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I read your message on New Year's Eve, which I'm sure you will agree is not the best time to reply. Will do so soonest. Good luck to you, and you seem to be editing in the proper spirit. More later. GeorgeLouis (talk) 06:27, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thanks GeorgeLouis! Any feedback is always helpful and welcome! Puhlaa (talk) 19:16, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have indirectly mentioned you here, in case you care to comment. It was not to criticize you, but to defend myself. It was in this specific edit that I mention coming to your talk page for an objective opinion. Thanks, Puhlaa (talk) 22:21, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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MOS/BIO

When I reverted my post, your second post got deleted. I'm not sure why that happened, but just letting you know it wasn't intentional. GoodDay (talk) 05:37, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Chiro page

Regards this edit, you actually do have access to the source (it's available on pubmed central [10]). WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 17:45, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GeorgeLouis, along the same topic, I made a comment regarding your edit at the chiropractic talk page, it is at the bottom of this long section. Thanks. Puhlaa (talk) 21:45, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings GeorgeLouis, I was just curious if you had a chance to read the source discussed here yet? Did you find my comment way at the bottom of this really long thread? I was still hoping to discuss whether the ideas expressed in the text you edited indeed need to be attributed and qualified, as was done in your edit here. There is no rush, sorry for nagging if you are just taking your time on the issue. Regards, Puhlaa (talk) 07:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Burrito

Should the content been struck, rather than removed? Additionally I noticed that civil response to ask for cessation of incivility, as well as third opinion regarding the initial civility, was removed; may I ask why?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 14:31, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, RCLC. The Talk Page is intended for ways to improve the article. The personal remarks, even though they may have been a LOT more civil than many are in WP, just interfered with the flow of the conversation. It would be better to engage the other editor on HIS talk page, because the dispute was just between you two. Well, that's my opinion anyway. I have found [ [rpa] ] to be a very useful tool in keeping remarks on track. Good luck with this article! It made me hungry just to edit it. GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:12, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If ever there is a meet up (as we are both in the Southern California Task Force), and we happen to meet, lets go out for burritos.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 02:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I have read these two paragraphs that you posted here. GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomo, I am not quite sure why you opened this discussion. Surely you cannot be defending Rhode Island Red's personal gibes about me on a page that is intended to improve the article? I am regretful that I had to revert you so quickly (and more than once, too), but I certainly could not stand by idly and see such a personal affront to me remain on the page. Maybe I have a thinner skin than other people, but it is my skin. I don't believe WP:3RR is valid in this situation, which involves my honor and reputation. I hope you understand that there is nothing personal against you, or against anybody. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 13:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

RIR warned

He managed to hit 5RR in under 24 hours this time - I posted the underlying issue at BLP/N and asked him to self-revert the fifth revert. Cheers. Collect (talk) 16:02, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a link? GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:30, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi George, please see my message at Wikipedia talk:Page Curation# Request. Graham87 12:46, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know which posting to look at there. GeorgeLouis (talk) 03:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • GeorgeLouis, please be wary of your behavior on the article Frank L. VanderSloot. Your behavior in constantly reverting others without talk page discussion is teetering on edit warring/disruptive editing. Your input in the discussion above is requested as well as heeding the concerns brought there. All the best, Lord Roem ~ (talk) 06:53, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your message. I would like your advice on the ability of an editor (me) to excise defamation from an article without waiting for discussion. I believe this is WP policy, per

Contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.

In your opinion, how should this be done without being accused of a 3RR violation? Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:33, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I'm just a bit confused. How is calling the company "multi-level" violate BLP? If it does, then obviously that's an exception to 3RR. Lord Roem ~ (talk) 00:19, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Multilevel marketing has a pejorative connotation, as shown by these excerpts from the Wikipedia article:

MLM companies have been a frequent subject of criticism as well as the target of lawsuits. Criticism has focused on their similarity to illegal pyramid schemes, price fixing of products, high initial start-up costs, emphasis on recruitment of lower-tiered salespeople over actual sales, encouraging if not requiring salespeople to purchase and use the company's products, potential exploitation of personal relationships which are used as new sales and recruiting targets, complex and sometimes exaggerated compensation schemes, and cult-like techniques which some groups use to enhance their members' enthusiasm and devotion.[10][12]

Walter J. Carl stated in a 2004 Western Journal of Communication article that "MLM organizations have been described by some as cults (Butterfield, 1985), pyramid schemes (Fitzpatrick & Reynolds, 1997),[41] or organizations rife with misleading, deceptive, and unethical behavior (Carter, 1999), such as the questionable use of evangelical discourse to promote the business (Hopfl & Maddrell, 1996), and the exploitation of personal relationships for financial gain (Fitzpatrick & Reynolds, 1997)".[41][42] In China, volunteers working to rescue people from the schemes have been physically attacked.[43]

VanderSloot has taken great pains to distance his firm from the MLM label. His quotation was in the article, as follows, before Rhode Island Red deleted it.

The company is described as a multi-level marketing company by several sources,[1][13][28][29] but Melaleuca says that the company “is not a multi-level marketer because its business model does not meet any state or federal criteria” and “unlike multi-level marketers, its model is not ‘predatory’ and is based on sales directly to consumers—-never other distributors.”[30][36][2]

What's more, Rhode Island Red continually refers to the removal of the phrase as "white-washing," which implies that there was something black about "multilevel marketing."
But the most important point is that the phrase is contentious, as witnessed by the controversy on the talk page, so, according to the policy, it doesn't matter if "the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable," it is supposed to b removed.
So how can an editor do this without facing blowback by another involved editor? GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, okay, all that makes sense. You should simply not engage in any revert battles with Rhode Island Red. If the contentious material is added again without further talk page discussion, leave a note on my talk. I'm now much more certain that this falls under the BLP exception. Thanks for expanding on that. Best, Lord Roem ~ (talk) 06:53, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BLP refers to "contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced". That is not the case here. "Contentious", as far as I can tell, is not defined as the objection of one or two editors against consensus. Rhode Island Red (talk) 21:28, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Don't mess with other editors' comments if you can't get it right

This edit resulted in a list with only 5 entries even though 6 editors had commented by that stage; you neglected to put a number on RIR's primary comment in the section. I have fixed it, here. Let's assume that you didn't actually intend to convey the impression that there was one fewer voice favoring inclusion of MLM in the lead -- even then, you should not play with other editors' posts if you can't be sure of ending up with a result that is above suspicion. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 05:48, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If I remember correctly, RIR did not preface his first remark with a hashtag, but he simply answered somebody else's comment. Thus, I did not use a cardinal number for his comment as I did for the others. By the way, I am rather hurt by your brusque remark. I was only trying to make things easier to read. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:59, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wrong. The hashtags had been replaced with bullets to correct the numbering mishap. Like all of the other commenters, I had a bullet tag next to my statement. George removed it, burying my comment as Nomo pointed out. So, yes, if you can't do it right, then don't refactor other people's Rhode Island Red (talk) 17:23, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As it turns out, Arthur Rubin and I were making the same or similar changes within four seconds of each other. Some of the editors had used hashtags. Thus the mixup. It would be nice if one would not jump to conclusions but instead were to WP:Assume good faith. GeorgeLouis (talk) 18:41, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As it turns out, Arthur managed to make his edit without removing the hash tag next to my comment[11], so that has nothing to do with your goof up. It would be refreshing if you simply accepted responsibility instead of trying to deflect this onto Arthur. Whatever. Rhode Island Red (talk) 01:39, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Whatever you say. I have already apologized elsewhere. GeorgeLouis (talk) 06:57, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed of Historical Right

Thanks for your help, I am not very expert how to do a citations, so I would like you do it for me. Thanl you again Nick.mon

Just put the citations right into body of the article in any way you like, and I will take care of it. Where you got the info, name of book and author, whatever, page number, etc. If you got it from a website, copy and paste the URL. GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:45, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thank you very much!

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Re this -- I think it would be a real mistake. You have been advised at 3RRN to engage in discussion and to refrain from further edit-warring. Your sandbox work indicates you intend to choose the latter, against the advice that you received. Perhaps I am reading your intentions incorrectly; I'd be pleased to hear that I am. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 16:11, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A very interesting post. GeorgeLouis (talk) 20:01, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Strawberry! :D

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Rollback

Did you know there is a way of disabling rollback on your watchlist?[12]  little green rosetta(talk)
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No. I never go backstage. Don't even know where the props are stored or where the costumers keep their needles and threads. Thanks for the info, though. GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:12, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GL

Before you undo everything I did, please be informed that another editor, emerson7, advised me that the succession boxes should be removed because they were redundant with the drop-down mayoral listsWQUlrich (talk) 19:02, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PS:I admit that I'm a bit sloppy when it comes to putting reasons on my edits. The lead section on Bernard Cohn seemed a bit gossipy to me...almost like the writer had something against Mr.Cohn. (Maybe I'm a bit too sensitive to possible Anti-Semitism). Anyway, I guess it stays. I don't want to get in an editing war with you!WQUlrich (talk) 19:20, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for writing. The lede reports only what is in the article. Cohn was quite a guy! Anyway, Jewish people were very much in evidence in the beginning years of American Los Angeles, serving on the city council, taking an active role in civic affairs, etc. There have actually been quite a few studies made on this. Many of the Jews came from Alsace, which at the time was being switched back and forth between Germany and France with wild abandon. So they spoke French, English and (I suppose) Yiddish and German. Some writers have indeed painted Cohn in the usual way as a greedy loan shark, and Pico may not have known how to read English, but the judge's decision really indicated that Pio Pico knew exactly what he was getting into when he made the agreement with Cohn. I could have pointed this out in the article, but perhaps it more properly belongs in the article about Pico. GeorgeLouis (talk) 20:05, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Well, we have a difference of opinion on whether reverting is allowed in this case, which, as you know, involves a claim (by me and others) that there is a violation of WP:BLP in this article. I really resent the accusation of Edit Warring, something I don't believe I have ever accused you of doing, although you've done a whole lot of reverts to my changes. So please be a little nicer over what is, as I mentioned above, not a war, but just a different way of looking at things. To avoid a 3RR, which causes trouble for everybody, I would do a voluntary revert of the removal of the tag at the top of the page, but someone has already put it back and now the page is blocked again, so I can't take any steps in that direction. What's more, your boilerplate warning indicates that I have not been working toward consensus. Consensus is not necessary when damaging material is inserted into BLP's, as you very well know. The difference between you and me is that you honestly believe that it is not damaging to a businessman when he is accused of running a MLM, and I honestly believe otherwise. It would be nice if you could just assume good faith in this matter. Sincerely, yours in Wikidom, GeorgeLouis (talk) 01:20, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I think you have demonstrated some bad faith in this episode. In your first contribution to the RfC, you indicated it would be "better to leave the description out of the lede and mention it briefly in the text below". In discussion after the RfC had concluded, when someone else raised the question of removing it from the body, you showed some understanding of the fact that the RfC wasn't intended to address that issue and said that if it was to be removed it should be discussed under a different rubric. But then when others (Jeremy and Andrew) started taking it out of the lead, you jumped right up on that bandwagon. So in fact I think you've been, shall we say, a bit opportunistic here. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 05:38, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, thanks for the comment. Opportunistic? Aren't we all? GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:41, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Jefferson High School (Los Angeles)

On the Jefferson High School (Los Angeles) page there is a "discuss" link. I notice you had a response on the link, I wanted to explain why the Grid was remove. The Grid was the reason why I updated the page. Can you give me your opinion on the paragraph below:

The Grid was remove because a reviewer name "Tedder" explain to me that you could not say "The first African American ...". I tried to explained to him that you can say John F. Kennedy was the the first Irish Catholic president. He says that it was not allowed and he removed the Grid. That logic never made since to me....I would like to put the grid back on the page, but I respect the review process findings even if I do not agree with them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Svgperson (talk • contribs) 23:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but I don't know what you are talking about. GeorgeLouis (talk) 01:03, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Question

Something struck me about an edit you made a couple of days ago: [13] -- "the new arrangement, which is still in effect." How do you know it is still in effect? ta, —Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:38, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. It was in the article that way. Some other editor stuck it there, and I just copied it since nobody had challenged it. I prefer that it be omitted unless we can find a source for it. GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:53, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can't reconcile that answer with the article history. In this version that immediately precedes the series of edits in which you added that phrase, the phrase does not exist. If you prefer it would be omitted, then it is puzzling that you would add it. Someone who adds it (without a source, even) would seem to believe that it's true, and I'm wondering on what basis you thought it was true. thanks, —Nomoskedasticity (talk) 05:02, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK, it took me a while, but I found the answer to your question. You can find it at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frank_L._VanderSloot&diff=538727753&oldid=538725766.
The unedited text said: "Instead, contractors now receive commissions from each purchase that their referred customers make from Melaleuca, but the customers buy the products directly from Melaleuca, which handles the delivery directly." (Emphasis added.)
I changed it to read: "In the new arrangement, which is still in effect, contractors receive commissions from Melaleuca for each purchase their customers make, but the customers buy directly from Melaleuca, which ships them directly to the consumer." (Emphasis added.)
I don't know what editor originally used the word now.
Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:04, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The requests specifically referred to formatting, and not to content. I refer you also to Wikipedia:Harassment. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 20:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Since you had my page deleted I was wondering if you could tell me where I can write a biography then? Thank you... (Dnl.briseno (talk) 23:14, 11 March 2013 (UTC))[reply]

The times, they aren't a-changing

There has got to be someplace the L.A. Times is available that isn't behind some kind of paywall. Even a paywall site would be better, because at least that allows people willing to pay, but who aren't in L.A., to gain access. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 21:07, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, any Californian can get an LAPL library card. Second, there is no other link to the older stories in the L.A. Times; if there is, I would like to know of it. Third, Wikipedia does not require that sources be available on line. Fourth, "idiotic" is a rather strong word. GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:24, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. state of...., My apologies

Here is an example. I think it sucks personally see this?. BUT, per WP:LOC the only thing that is specifically stated is the title should not and yet, BAM, its the lead. I do not agree that this is the best. In fact, I think you and I probably agree. HOWEVER, we have other editors who will literally remove every freaking instance of United States in ANY US state article because, and I quote, EVERYONE KNOWS where this state is. Point of fact, they do not. BUT, I think that there should be a better mechanism that a lead that says, OH by the way etc etc. I am very open to discussion, my apologies if I came across as harsh, I was carrying invisible wiki baggage, which is not your problemCoal town guy (talk) 01:23, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your link goes to WP:List of cabals. Normally when I am confronted by a tautology such as your example, I simply delete the offending phrase with the Edit summary "Where else would West Virginia be?" Normally nobody bothers to put the phrase back in. GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:23, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Have no fear, I have created a near bullet proof template, I will post it shortly for review. I agree. In fact, I was rather good at symbolic logic a few million years ago...or so it seems. I will be the Wiki man who loves to be hated and change the phrasing in the 50+ counties that have the locutionCoal town guy (talk) 02:37, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Surpise, NOBODY commented. BUT I did find why there is a tautology, the reason the code we edit will say, US County for US State of etc etc etc is because there is indeed a county article as opoosed to a US one and the "county article" is a stinker......do you think a merge or redirect could eliminate the ugliness???Coal town guy (talk) 00:02, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your message. No, I am not checking for any sources. If the article itself makes no claim to notability, then of course the tag "unclear notability" no longer applies, and I can nominate it for deletion. However, I guess I will just lay off. Thanks again. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:28, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the warning, but I don't believe anybody will believe that my recent edits involve any kind of war. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:05, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We'll find out, if you do any more reverting; you've removed "journalists" 3 times now. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 16:12, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if it is a war, I proposed a Christmas truce, even though it's not the right season. I won't be doing any more editing until at least tomorrow. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:16, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Don't be silly. GeorgeLouis (talk) 11:21, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch

Thanks for copyediting my copyedit on the VanderSloot BLP. I changed the wrong side of the Wikilink. Andrew327 17:53, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I do that occasionally — can't tell my right hand from my left. GeorgeLouis (talk) 18:01, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Eagle Rock, California

A few things about your edits from someone with extensive knowledge of the area. Just because there is no source on a persons page for where they reside is not carte blanche reason to removed someone from a locality page. Many of the residents you removed are sourced from school yearbooks and other good sources that are not necessarily on their personal page, nor happen to be in an electronic form (which is NOT required for Wikipedia). As for the movie industry, many of the films referenced have specific credits at the end of the movies mentioning eagle rock, and any community within a hour of Hollywood has extensive history in the community which is part of their story. Everything you removed was valid, encyclopedic content, with very poor justification. If you want to continue improving the page, I look forward to working with you, but please discuss your edits on the talk page were consensus can be reached instead of wholesale deletions. Your good faith edits have been Reverted until appropriate discussion of your changes reaches consensus. Timmccloud (talk) 12:57, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I look forward to you or somebody else inserting the proper sources. See you on the Talk Page. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:21, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The changes made to the article were necessary because your editing of the neighborhood boundaries is inaccurate. Since at least the year 2000, the City of Los Angeles Planning authority has clearly identified the area known as Harvard Heights in multiple citywide ordinances, planning documents, and zoning maps. Furthermore, your contention that a reliable source was not provided for these corrections is entirely untrue as two separate and publicly posted pdf documents created by the City of Los Angeles were cited to. These documents are: http://www.preservation.lacity.org/files/Harvard%20Heights%20Survey%20Map.pdf and http://www.preservation.lacity.org/files/Harvard%20Heights%20Ordinance.pdf which can be found at the City of Los Angeles Planning Department Office of Historic Resources website (http://www.preservation.lacity.org/hpoz/la/harvard-heights). Unfortunately, the editing you performed relies on misinformation disseminated by the LA Times Crime Mapping unit. The publication has previously been informed in writing that the information contained on their website is inaccurate and is overly inclusive of surrounding areas that are not commonly considered, nor publicly marked as Harvard Heights by both residents and government alike. Furthermore, your citation source can be further contradicted when examined in conjunction with the popular real estate website zillow.com, which posits an altogether third set of boundaries for the neighborhood which is likewise inaccurate. Thus, it makes most sense to rely on the widely published information that City Planning and Zoning has relied on as the accurate boundaries of this neighborhood for the past 13 years. Furthermore, as a local resident of the neighborhood, I can attest to the fact that the neighborhood has been trying to correct this misinformation for years. These efforts to educate those who are not from the area have been very public, and have included the City sanctioned posting of Harvard Heights signs on every corner in the neighborhood between Western Ave and Normandie, as well as Pico Blvd to the 10 Freeway. For this specific reason, the wikipedia article was pursuantly edited in order to stop the flow of misinformation and point to reliable to sources for the Harvard Heights boundary lines. Please revert the edits to this wiki page to reflect this information.

Thank you. I've responded at "Boundaries sources" on the Talk:Harvard Heights, Los Angeles page. It would be best to keep all conversation over there. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:23, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hollywood infobox picture and other good work

That was a great edit and a great edit summary, too. The rest of the work you're doing there is high quality and much needed.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 16:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you comment at this discussion regarding a source's reliability? It involves a self-published source's use in a featured-BLP article. Dan56 (talk) 16:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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GeorgeLouis, do you have a conflict of interest WP:Conflict of Interest with regards to the publication outlet the Los Angeles Times? A vast majority of the information that you have posted to Los Angeles neighborhood based articles is content derived largely from the Los Angeles Times. It has been brought to your attention that some of the Los Angeles Times information you cite to is inaccurate or at odds with other sources, including widely disseminated maps, government documents, etc. You continue to edit such articles to remove other citations and references, and prominently refer back to the Los Angeles Times as a primary source, both in the article content itself, as well as in the external links section. Is there a reason you have mostly featured this publication/media outlet so prominently in name in these articles? This topic will also be posted to the WP:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard. Thank you. Harvardheightshpoz (talk) 15:50, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am assuming you are acting in good faith and that you have not been made aware of Wikipedia:Outing#Posting_of_personal_information. GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:35, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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