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==Narrated by==
==Narrated by==
Removing the "narrated by" since not all shows have a narration. If the general consensus is for it can always be readded. [[User:Sfufan2005|Sfufan2005]] 00:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Removing the "narrated by" since not all shows have a narration. If the general consensus is for it can always be readded. [[User:Sfufan2005|Sfufan2005]] 00:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:It's been put back and is an eyesore for unnarrated shows, so I've made it into an optional field. - [[User:Someguy0830|Someguy0830]] ([[User talk:Someguy0830|Talk]]) 07:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

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On the removal of the IMDb link by Ed g2s: How about adding in TV Tome links instead? (Should have checked Ed g2s's talk page first; it's already been asked...) --Christopherlin 06:53, 3 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and to repeat what I said there, the parameters would need to be added to all the pages before the template is edited. ed g2stalk 11:27, 3 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Usage

{{Infobox television|
| show_name = 
| image = 
| caption = 
| format = 
| runtime = 
| ratings =
| creator = 
| starring = 
| country = 
| network = 
| first_aired = 
| last_aired = 
| num_episodes = 
}}

Redid the code for easier copy & paste. ~ Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 00:56, 2005 August 19 (UTC)

Re: ratings

Major changes, such as the addition of several fields to an infobox, need to be proposed and discussed on the talk page first before they are implemented; there needs to be a consensus. I would say that ratings information is relevant, but adding it to the infoboxes may not be the best idea because (1) not all shows are shown in the same region, and (2) not all shows are rated. It would probably be best to add a single rating category, that can be edited accordingly for each article. --FuriousFreddy 14:08, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps. --Ryanasaurus0077 14:17, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The best thing to do, if you want to include all the certificates on whatever articles you have, is to make a new infobox (call it "infobox television 3"; there's already a "2") and use that one. This one is implemented on a number of pages, and not all of those shows would even have the ratings to enter into the boxes. --FuriousFreddy 14:22, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This template looks bad in Opera. Can this be fixed? See Veronica Mars for an example. The "vertical-align: top" doesn't seem to work.

Spaces between years and en dash

The convention in Wikipedia is to put spaces between an en dash when writing a range of dates. Otherwise, sometimes dates are more difficult to read, e.g.:

--surueña 21:40:56, 2005-09-05 (UTC)

Bad formatting

Is it just my computer, or does this template sit on the right of the screen and really mess with the formatting of the page? It forces all the text down to the bottom of the screen instead of sitting nicely on the left like the Moviebox. Can we fix this? [[User:Premeditated Chaos|User:Premeditated Chaos/Sig]] 07:34, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Capitalize 'Television'?

For consistency with other infoboxes, should 'Television' be capitalized: Infobox Television? Or is it too late to make that change? --Jeremy Butler 12:28, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have created a Template:Infobox Television page and redirected it to Infobox television. I tested it and it seems to work.--Max E|C 22:22, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Writers, Directors?

Should we add writers and directors? --Jeremy Butler 12:40, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No. of episodes

No. of episodes is a bit tricky for shows that are still on the air. Is it presumed that the number will be incremented each week as the program is broadcast? --Jeremy Butler 01:43, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't have to be updated all the time. Most shows will announce how many episodes they have for the season anyway. Just put something like "50 as of November 2005" or something. That's fine till the season is over. Increment that if you want. K1Bond007 02:49, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Inserting Images

Is there a special way of inserting images into the template for each programme that I'm simply just not getting? I'm trying to add this ident image Image:BBCnationwideident1981.jpg to the infobox for Nationwide (TV series) but it won't go, not with the Image prefix there, the image prefix removed or with these [[ ]] added around the image link. I've added a copy of the infobox to my test page User:Wikiwoohoo/My Test Page. I'd be very grateful if somebody could take a look and tell me where I've gone wrong. Thanks! :) Wikiwoohoo 19:45, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You need the brackets on this template. So in this case:
{{infobox television |
  | show_name = Nationwide
  | image = [[Image:BBCnationwideident1981.jpg]]
Hope that helps. K1Bond007 19:53, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Text is spaced out?

It seems like the text is vertically spaced out too much in the infobox, thus making it taller than it should be. I don't have the requisite skills to fix this though; anyone else? --Cyde Weys talkcontribs 10:11, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Format" should be "Genre"

I noticed at Firefly (television series) that someone made the not-unexpected mistake of interpreting the ambiguous term "format" as medium format; e.g., "DVD". That is a logical use of the term "format" in the context of television shows, however useless it might be for this specific context. An even more logical interpretation would be "NTSC" or "PAL". Only third on the list would be genre. I recommend that we change this variable name to the unambiguous term "genre" before the template usage increases beyond the current 655 articles. If no one offers a compelling reason otherwise, I'll commit the effort in the near future to fix the articles simultaneously with the change. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 07:05, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Country II

Does the "Country" refer to the home country, or should I put in all Countries where it is actively being broadcast? Example: Degrassi: The Next Generation is first broadcast in Canada, and then a few weeks later, the episodes appear in the US.----Max 00:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Country of origin. So, for instance, 24 is the United States while something like The Saint is the United Kingdom. K1Bond007 02:08, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. What about shows that are run by a domestic company, but take place elsewhere, like Survivor?--Max 21:11, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
It's still a U.S. show. K1Bond007 20:09, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. --Max E|C

Infobox 2.0, with ratings

Carbon Copied Reality Show
{{{image}}}
Format Reality
Running time 54 minutes
Rating
File:TV-MA.gif
Creator(s) Heywood Jayblhome
Starring Washed up B celebrities
Country USA
Network FOX
Original run January 16th, 2006 – January 16th, 2006
No. of episodes 1

I took a stab at creating another infobox. It's to the right. Tips, compalints, Comments? Pacific Coast Highway|Spam me! 17:00, 25 May 2024 UTC [refresh]

Okay, I took the time to "unfork" the template as a message suggested. I added the ratings part to the main template as a "hidden structure". To apply the ratings, just use templates. For Template:TV-14, apply {{TV-14}}. The process is the same for all ratings. |Pacific Coast Highway|Leave a message ($.25) 17:00, 25 May 2024 UTC [refresh]

Optional Fields

Here's the deal. A while ago User:Netoholic decided to make some of the fields non-optional. I reverted because I believed it made the template less flexible and less pleasing to look at. He reverted back because he had also changed some table settings and I had screwed them up. Not feeling particularly strong about the topic, and not wanting to start an edit war, I decided to leave it alone. However, what does the community feel about this? I support optional fields, because it allows people to get something down as a starting point, and fill in the information later. This is other infoboxes I have encountered work (Template:Infobox Software, Template:Infobox Network, Template:Infobox programming language, etc) and I believe it should function like those. Input your thoughts though.--Max Talk (add) • Contributions 00:31, 22 January 2006 (UTC) 04:09, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All but the most basic, universal, and obvious fields optional. Anything made non-optional should be discussed here first and agreed upon before the change is made. Turnstep 00:36, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"next unaired episode" row

I'd like to see a "next unaired episode" row in the infobox. It could be an optional entry. - Bevo 17:10, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

US-centricism

Can we change "Network" to something like "Broadcast on" or "Originally broadcast on"? Morwen - Talk 12:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed it to "Network/channel" for now, but it might not look right. violet/riga (t) 20:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rating

The rating looks very bad, I'm afraid. Not only is it horribly US-centric but it uses meta-templates too, which should be avoided where possible. violet/riga (t) 20:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, fine. If you really feel you want to kill it, fine, do so. I give up, I'm done. Before anything's going away, then let's get a consensus (of more than 1 person) going first. Until then, I'll revert. Pacific Coast Highway|Leave a message ($.25) 00:19, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but I think the reason for removing it is greater than the reason for keeping it in, and your "majority of one" equally applies to yourself. We should abide by the Wikipedia:Avoid using meta-templates policy. Further, it doesn't matter that it's optional as the fact that a US rating is shown on programmes shown throughout the world is just simply wrong. violet/riga (t) 09:19, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, If it's a policy, I have no problem abiding by it. However, you "international" rationale seems a bit hypocritical. A show originating in the U.S. airing on FOX, could air on some other network in the U.K., and yet have no mention in the box, a la The Simpsons. Pacific Coast Highway|Leave a message ($.25) 14:04, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think you're referring to the "network" bit now, which is different. violet/riga (t) 21:42, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Why not have a US rating? It applies to the program, and I think it's relevant. However, I would suggest adding a Canadian rating and (at least for Canadian programming like This Hour Has 22 Minutes), or creating a different infobox for Canadian television. Fagstein 02:35, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You do realise this infobox is used for television programs from places outside North America, right? Morwen - Talk 12:02, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously, the same thing should apply to other countries. How about, instead of "US rating", we give ratings in as many countries as give them? Fagstein 18:36, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree that these ratings images in the template do not look right and should be removed. Multiple countries can be added, but the image should not be included. If there are no objections, I would like to remove them from where they have been included thusfar. --Reflex Reaction (talk)• 18:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Again, at this point, I don't care as to what even happens at this point. I'm sure you all can work this out. Pacific Coast Highway|Leave a message ($.25) 23:37, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Running time

I've removed the recent addition to the "Running time" section that read (approx. per episode). In general, we should keep the values empty to allow for full flexibility for each article. In this particular case, I did a small random sampling and found that over half of the existing articles using this template already had some sort of "per episode" wording, which lead to a bad-looking infobox. Even if such a change should be made (and I don't think it should), it is up to the person making the change to not only get consensus, but to make sure that they are willing to make sure every affected article that uses the infobox is changed as well. Turnstep 00:50, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Narrated by

Removing the "narrated by" since not all shows have a narration. If the general consensus is for it can always be readded. Sfufan2005 00:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's been put back and is an eyesore for unnarrated shows, so I've made it into an optional field. - Someguy0830 (Talk) 07:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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