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Have a look at ru:Участник:Obersachse/Песочница4. Not bad for the beginning, isn't it? --Obersachse (talk) 22:00, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ну вы блин спиди гонсалесы :) Выглядит многообещающе!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 4, 2010; 04:16 (UTC)

Дело начинает развиваться. Я ознакомил двух немцев, активных участников по проекту создания позиционных карт, с твоими идеями. См. de:Benutzer Diskussion:NordNordWest#Administrative Einheiten als Marker für Positionskarten --Obersachse (talk) 18:39, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Мне там всё понятно только очень смутно, но всё равно спасибо!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 8, 2010; 19:19 (UTC)

Thanks for the improvement. How did I do with the Russian sources? Google translate gave me a gisted translation, plus with what I already knew I was able to sort out most of it, but I did have to leave a few details out where I wasn't exactly sure of the translation. Let's hope this one doesn't end up at AfD, where discussions are getting quite heated at the moment. Mjroots (talk) 16:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't much of an improvement, really. I just linked a few things. Sources look fine, although I did not make an effort to compare what the sources say with what the article says. If you have any particular pieces in mind that you think could benefit from an overview by a native speaker, feel free to let me know. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 8, 2010; 17:12 (UTC)

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Yeah, I created that page awhile ago... I think... I did a quick search to see if I could find anything, and I can't find anything about LGBT life in tiny Chuvashia, though I did find an LGBT Tatar site: http://www.lgbt-tatarstan.ru... we could probably make a LGBT page for Tatarstan, if anyone ever wanted to. I'm not really interested as of now and don't really have the time either...

But anyhow, go and ahead and delete it. I'm not protesting. --Yalens (talk) 01:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking time to comment, Yalens. I have no problem with this article being re-written while on prod or re-created after the deletion. It's its present condition I was objecting to when I prodded it. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 13, 2010; 13:15 (UTC)

Я не знаком с вашими обычаями, поэтому обращаюсь за помощью к тебе. VolkovBot был заблокирован за якобы вандализм. Несколько участников возражало против блокировки, но обсуждение было заархивировано без подведение итога (en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive637#VolkovBot overly eager to remove interwiki links). Как обжаловать блокировку? Этот бот очень нужен для разрешения интервикиконфликтов. --Obersachse (talk) 07:25, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(I'm going to respond in English on the off chance this thread needs to be referred to in the future).

I don't know nearly enough about how the bots of this kind operate or are supposed to operate, so I can't really help with the specifics of the petitioning. I can, however, do the following. First, the discussion result (if there ever was one) is indeed inconclusive, so I'm going to move the thread back to the active portion of the noticeboard. Second, my recommendation (either to you or Volkov) is to add a few specific examples of how the links being removed actually benefit the process in the long run. Input is as good a starting point as any. Third, if the difference of opinions boils down to the philosophy of interwiki linking, I'm afraid there's not much that can be done—I myself, for example, question the utility of permanently removing interwikis from a page to a section of an article in another wiki, even though at the same time I understand very well why such an approach often does not work programmatically. If all the differences in opinion boil down to is the philosophy, then perhaps this should be taken to meta, as there's no guarantee some other wikis wouldn't block this bot for the same reasons the English Wikipedia did, thus exacerbating the problem even more.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 13, 2010; 13:27 (UTC)

Thanks. --Obersachse (talk) 13:49, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See Template talk:M to ft in#Bug. I bet you thought it would never be fixed :) Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 18:29, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks (I knew the bug would be something stupid like that)! I'm a bit surprised that {{convert}} is having problems with the conversion this basic (which is why I never bothered to fix this template), but I'm glad you caught it and made it usable once again. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 13, 2010; 13:13 (UTC)

Hi! I remarked that Template:Infobox Russian inhabited locality has an odd function. See Tuapse for example. It adds "citation needed" templates everywhere in the infobox. I think it's utterly useless, first of all because it makes the Russian towns articles look bad, and secondly because other infoboxes for cities (such as Template:infobox settlement) lack this feature. Can you please reformat the template so the citation needed markings are gone ? Thanks in advance, 79.182.112.156 (talk) 14:08, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That other infoboxes lack this feature is the problem of those infoboxes. All information in Wikipedia must be verifiable, meaning that anything challenged or likely to be challenged, including all quotations, [must] be attributed to a reliable source in the form of an inline citation.... Every single line in the {{Infobox Russian inhabited locality}} can be challenged, hence every single line must be attributed to a reliable source. If the abundance of the "citation needed" links is tiring to you, you have the full right to remove the unsourced information altogether. Alternatively (and more productively), you can supply the sources.

On the "looks bad" point, of course it looks bad, because it is bad to have in one place so many unattributed factoids masquerading as verified information. The solution, once again, is to either remove the unsourced bits or to source them. Note that where everything is done properly (see, for example, the Novosibirsk article), there is no problem. It's not like it's impossible to reference the missing pieces! If it were, then it wouldn't have belonged in the infobox in the first place.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 13, 2010; 14:21 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for responding ! :) I will search for sources, maybe I'll find some. 79.182.112.156 (talk) 14:25, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. If you are looking to fix a particular article or two, feel free to let me know which. I can't source all articles with this infobox at once (although I do certainly wish I could!), but I can help you source any single one of them individually. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 13, 2010; 14:30 (UTC)

Great ! :) I'm looking now for sources to Tuapse and Severodvinsk. 79.182.112.156 (talk) 14:36, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can take care of those. If not today, then tomorrow. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 13, 2010; 14:46 (UTC)

Thank you, that's awesome . I looked for sources in foreign wikipedias but couldn't find anything. 79.182.112.156 (talk) 15:06, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've referenced most of Tuapse, although I am not finding reliable sources to back up the area figure and the telephone code. If you could find sources for those, it'd be appreciated. I'll tackle Severodvinsk tomorrow. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 13, 2010; 20:26 (UTC)

Great. I added a reference for the telephone code of Tuapse. Couldn't find one for the area though (Note: I have a username now ) --Nikonfortyde (talk) 15:15, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A user name? A smart choice, welcome! I've fixed the reference for the telephone code (for some reason yours was pointing to the "R" page) and will be on the lookout for the area figure. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 14, 2010; 15:21 (UTC)

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Hi - feel bit embarrassed - found that the bridges had been tagged with the bridges project but not the russian - so did the project tag first - I have WP:RS and photos for commons - from my visit last year - but hey it will take me time to get them up - the sources and the photos - cheers SatuSuro 14:22, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem; the WikiProject tags are only one of the many secondary tools we have and are easy to overlook. Don't worry; we'll catch them all eventually :) Thanks much for your work on this!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 15, 2010; 14:27 (UTC)

I must say a brief foray a day does find some intriguing untagged russian categories - I just wished I had ventured out of the nevski prospect area more than I did when I was there last year SatuSuro 14:30, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

at Commons:User_talk:Russavia#Laziness. Cheers, --Russavia ^{I'm chanting as we speak} 00:29, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry; didn't master the ropes yet. Lom Konkreta (talk) 15:05, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem. If there's ever anything you think I can help with, don't hesitate to ask. Cheers and welcome,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 21, 2010; 15:08 (UTC)

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