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==Launch==
We are excited to tell you that VEVO will launch the evening of Tuesday, December 8! ([[User:Pavelow235|Pavelow235]] ([[User talk:Pavelow235|talk]]) 05:11, 19 November 2009 (UTC))

== VEVO logo red highlighting: VEvo or veVo? ==

The logo used in the article highlights the V and E in red, but the actual logo on [http://www.vevo.com Vevo.com] only highlights the second V. Did they change it? Shouldn't Wikipedia change to match? There are logos here: [http://www.vevo.com/media-room/logos Official Vevo Logos] -- but I guess SVG is the most desirable format, no? Should we forgo that until someone can make an SVG of the revised logo? (Also, for future reference -- should I have put this on the picture talk page instead of here?) [[User:Tophtucker|Tophtucker]] ([[User talk:Tophtucker|talk]]) 21:45, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
:I'll update the coloration when I get a chance. I think they changed it. Anyways, non-free images are never displayed anywhere other than its designated article, according to fair use guidelines. So you did the correct thing :) --'''[[User:ZooFari|<span style="color:green; font-style:italic">Zoo</span>]][[User talk:ZooFari|<span style="color:darkgreen; font-style:italic;">Fari</span>]]''' 22:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
::{{Fixed}}. --'''[[User talk:ZooFari|<span style="color:green; font-style:italic">Zoo</span>]][[User talk:ZooFari|<span style="color:darkgreen; font-style:italic;">Fari</span>]]''' 22:48, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

== Name ==

Vevo's slogan is "VEVO | Music Evolution Revolution!" At a guess, the name is a [[portmanteau]] of "video" and "evolution/revolution". This seems to make sense, but it was not added to the article because of the [[WP:OR|original research]] issue.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 09:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

== Vevo on YouTube ==

At the moment, the Vevo artist channels are available on YouTube. This seems to be a promotion for the new service, which is not currently available worldwide (eg Rihanna's Vevo channel is on YouTube [http://www.youtube.com/user/RihannaVEVO here]). The Vevo channels have been picking up criticism on the technical front, with some users saying that they keep freezing and rebuffering.[http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=34246140da7b417e&hl=en] This may be because the picture size is 850 x 480px, which requires a better quality Internet connection and computer than standard quality YouTube videos. Some of the videos have pre-roll adverts, which has also led to criticism.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 14:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

:The part about the videos having [[RTMPE]] was removed due to a lack of [[WP:V|sourcing]]. Unlike YouTube videos, Vevo videos cannot be downloaded, but it is unclear why. The most likely reason is that they are streaming without buffering, which means that they do not cache to the local hard drive. When a Vevo video starts playing, the buffer bar (which is pink) is full immediately, unlike a YouTube video which takes a while for the buffer to fill up. This would also account for the freeze-prone performance that numerous people have reported with Vevo videos.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 08:38, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

::During the first month after its launch, Vevo generated a lot of complaints about slow video loading and picture freezing. Unfortunately, since most of this was in the tech forums (eg [http://help.youtube.com/support/youtube/bin/search.py?hl=en&forum=1&query=vevo+more%3Aforum here] it is unsuitable for the article. It looks like Vevo may have changed the system on the YouTube channels, because the videos are now buffering, which they were apparently not doing at the launch.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 22:34, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

:::In response to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vevo&diff=338002106&oldid=337878640 this edit], it is true that some Vevo videos on YouTube are producing the message: "''This video contains content from Vevo, who has decided to block it in your country.''" For example, I am in the UK and get this message when trying to access [http://www.youtube.com/user/GwenStefaniVEVO#p/a/u/2/O0lf_fE3HwA "Gwen Stefani - The Sweet Escape ft. Akon"]. However, most of the Vevo videos seem to work on YouTube, and there are [[WP:OR|original research]] issues here.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 14:57, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

:::In response to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vevo&diff=338002106&oldid=337878640 this edit], This page reads like an advertisment. It couldn't be more positive and it is rather obvious who wrote it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/96.227.82.245|96.227.82.245]] ([[User talk:96.227.82.245|talk]]) 07:15, 29 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::::What's not to like? There is not much information about Vevo at the moment, but the article does not read like an advertisement. The article also stresses that the www.vevo.com website is not available worldwide.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:51, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

== Availability in Japan ==

There has been remarkably little about the launch of Vevo in the media, but the sources agree that the launch was on 8 December 2009 in the USA and Canada.[http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/2716825/][http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419-vevo-not-global-until-2010-strains-on-first-day/] Japan may have been added to the article in good faith, but would require a [[WP:RS|reliable source]], so it has been removed for the time being.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 20:11, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

== Availability in Andorra ==
On 10 January 2010 vevo is also available on Andorra, so might be convenient to update the countries in which vevo is allowed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/77.228.227.133|77.228.227.133]] ([[User talk:77.228.227.133|talk]]) 11:20, 10 January 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Thanks, see above. Vevo's publicity says that it is due to go worldwide in 2010, but availability in individual countries should have a [[WP:RS|reliable source]]. According to the sources, Vevo is available only in the US and Canada at the moment. I am in the UK and get the "sorry" message for www.vevo.com.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 11:31, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

==Relationship to "Vivio"==
The design of both the company "Vivio" and "Vevo" are very similar. There is also a relationship between them and the design that goes into "Verizon". Red, Grey, and an emphasis on the letter "V". Either they are trying to replicate eachother's characteristics, or these are branches of the same company. Brewing monopoly if you ask me. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.171.44.214|70.171.44.214]] ([[User talk:70.171.44.214|talk]]) 04:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I could not find the Vivio logo and the similarity to the [[Verizon]] logo is only passing. Companies are usually careful about names and logos in case they set off claims of plagiarism. There is no sourcing at the moment to suggest a link between Verizon and Vevo.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

::Vivio= http://www.vivio.co.uk/
::Vevo= http://www.vevo.com/
::Verizon= http://www22.verizon.com/?CMP=KNC-CONSBRAND <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.171.44.214|70.171.44.214]] ([[User talk:70.171.44.214|talk]]) 08:40, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:As [http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/09/logo-originality this article] points out:<blockquote>Draw a blue circle on the screen and you’ve just stolen the Blaupunkt logo. Draw a yellow line and you’re copying Visa. Draw a black swoosh and you’re ripping off Nike. The less intricacies involved in creating your masterpiece, the more likely it is that someone has already created it.</blockquote> Even if there are similarities, it does not necessarily mean that the companies are linked in some way.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 09:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

::I call that the "duh" or "easy anti-thesis" argument, which provides you the illusion of intellectual progress. The superior response is "I don't know, but it is interesting to note." <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.171.44.214|70.171.44.214]] ([[User talk:70.171.44.214|talk]]) 15:15, 3 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:This is wandering off into [[WP:NOTAFORUM]] territory. If you have any [[WP:V|reliable sourcing]] that these companies are linked in some way, please provide it.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 15:43, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Availability in Russia ==
Vevo works very well in Russia. No "sorry" message. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/94.243.254.62|94.243.254.62]] ([[User talk:94.243.254.62|talk]]) 19:33, 3 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:This is one of the problems facing the article at the moment. In the UK, I am still getting the "Sorry" message. The info about Russia may be correct, but it needs [[WP:V|reliable sourcing]]. Vevo has not been picking up much media coverage, and the official launch publicity said that the site is available only in the US and Canada.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 19:46, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== misc ==
Isn't it contradictory stating that one of the reasons of Vevo existance is because high end publishers don't want to be hosted side-by-side with user-generated videos although this is considered a possibility in the future. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.11.244.24|81.11.244.24]] ([[User talk:81.11.244.24|talk]]) 16:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{done}} The wording here was a bit confusing.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 17:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

== Vevo in the UK ==

Vevo was launched in the US and Canada in December 2009, and is scheduled to go worldwide in 2010. However, when I try to access www.vevo.com in the UK, (with a UK IP address), I get the following message: [http://www.angusmacmillan.talktalk.net/vevouk.png]. If anyone has accessed Vevo in the UK, please explain how you did it, or provide a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] for the UK launch, which does not seem to have happened yet.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 11:53, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

== Vevo in Australia ==

Vevo is NOT available currently in Australia. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/60.231.5.237|60.231.5.237]] ([[User talk:60.231.5.237|talk]]) 16:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:OK, although the site is due for worldwide rollout in 2010, any additions need [[WP:V|reliable sourcing]]. For a fact, I cannot access www.vevo.com in the UK at the moment.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 16:45, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== Max Player Size Wrong ==

"Like YouTube, Vevo uses the Flash video format for its content. The player size is up to 850 x 480 pixels,"

I don't see how that's true with Lady Gaga's Telephone or Miley Cyrus's Can't be Tamed are offered in 1080. [[User:Burntpsilocybin|Psilocybin]] ([[User talk:Burntpsilocybin|talk]]) 21:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

:This was true when Vevo was launched, but things have moved on. There are now some 720p and 1080p videos on Vevo. The usual sizes are 640x360 and 850x480. There are no videos smaller than this, which means that a modern computer and broadband connection are needed to enjoy the site.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:01, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

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