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:As [http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/09/logo-originality this article] points out:<blockquote>Draw a blue circle on the screen and you’ve just stolen the Blaupunkt logo. Draw a yellow line and you’re copying Visa. Draw a black swoosh and you’re ripping off Nike. The less intricacies involved in creating your masterpiece, the more likely it is that someone has already created it.</blockquote> Even if there are similarities, it does not necessarily mean that the companies are linked in some way.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 09:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:As [http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/09/logo-originality this article] points out:<blockquote>Draw a blue circle on the screen and you’ve just stolen the Blaupunkt logo. Draw a yellow line and you’re copying Visa. Draw a black swoosh and you’re ripping off Nike. The less intricacies involved in creating your masterpiece, the more likely it is that someone has already created it.</blockquote> Even if there are similarities, it does not necessarily mean that the companies are linked in some way.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 09:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

::I call that the "duh" or "easy anti-thesis" argument, which provides you the illusion of intellectual progress. The superior response is "I don't know, but it is interesting to note."

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Launch

We are excited to tell you that VEVO will launch the evening of Tuesday, December 8! (Pavelow235 (talk) 05:11, 19 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

VEVO logo red highlighting: VEvo or veVo?

The logo used in the article highlights the V and E in red, but the actual logo on Vevo.com only highlights the second V. Did they change it? Shouldn't Wikipedia change to match? There are logos here: Official Vevo Logos -- but I guess SVG is the most desirable format, no? Should we forgo that until someone can make an SVG of the revised logo? (Also, for future reference -- should I have put this on the picture talk page instead of here?) Tophtucker (talk) 21:45, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll update the coloration when I get a chance. I think they changed it. Anyways, non-free images are never displayed anywhere other than its designated article, according to fair use guidelines. So you did the correct thing :) --ZooFari 22:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed. --ZooFari 22:48, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name

Vevo's slogan is "VEVO | Music Evolution Revolution!" At a guess, the name is a portmanteau of "video" and "evolution/revolution". This seems to make sense, but it was not added to the article because of the original research issue.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vevo on YouTube

At the moment, the Vevo artist channels are available on YouTube. This seems to be a promotion for the new service, which is not currently available worldwide (eg Rihanna's Vevo channel is on YouTube here). The Vevo channels have been picking up criticism on the technical front, with some users saying that they keep freezing and rebuffering.[1] This may be because the picture size is 850 x 480px, which requires a better quality Internet connection and computer than standard quality YouTube videos. Some of the videos have pre-roll adverts, which has also led to criticism.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 14:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The part about the videos having RTMPE was removed due to a lack of sourcing. Unlike YouTube videos, Vevo videos cannot be downloaded, but it is unclear why. The most likely reason is that they are streaming without buffering, which means that they do not cache to the local hard drive. When a Vevo video starts playing, the buffer bar (which is pink) is full immediately, unlike a YouTube video which takes a while for the buffer to fill up. This would also account for the freeze-prone performance that numerous people have reported with Vevo videos.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:38, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
During the first month after its launch, Vevo generated a lot of complaints about slow video loading and picture freezing. Unfortunately, since most of this was in the tech forums (eg here it is unsuitable for the article. It looks like Vevo may have changed the system on the YouTube channels, because the videos are now buffering, which they were apparently not doing at the launch.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 22:34, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In response to this edit, it is true that some Vevo videos on YouTube are producing the message: "This video contains content from Vevo, who has decided to block it in your country." For example, I am in the UK and get this message when trying to access "Gwen Stefani - The Sweet Escape ft. Akon". However, most of the Vevo videos seem to work on YouTube, and there are original research issues here.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 14:57, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Availability in Japan

There has been remarkably little about the launch of Vevo in the media, but the sources agree that the launch was on 8 December 2009 in the USA and Canada.[2][3] Japan may have been added to the article in good faith, but would require a reliable source, so it has been removed for the time being.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:11, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Availability in Andorra

On 10 January 2010 vevo is also available on Andorra, so might be convenient to update the countries in which vevo is allowed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.228.227.133 (talk) 11:20, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, see above. Vevo's publicity says that it is due to go worldwide in 2010, but availability in individual countries should have a reliable source. According to the sources, Vevo is available only in the US and Canada at the moment. I am in the UK and get the "sorry" message for www.vevo.com.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:31, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship to "Vivio"

The design of both the company "Vivio" and "Vevo" are very similar. There is also a relationship between them and the design that goes into "Verizon". Red, Grey, and an emphasis on the letter "V". Either they are trying to replicate eachother's characteristics, or these are branches of the same company. Brewing monopoly if you ask me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.44.214 (talk) 04:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I could not find the Vivio logo and the similarity to the Verizon logo is only passing. Companies are usually careful about names and logos in case they set off claims of plagiarism. There is no sourcing at the moment to suggest a link between Verizon and Vevo.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Vivio= http://www.vivio.co.uk/
Vevo= http://www.vevo.com/
Verizon= http://www22.verizon.com/?CMP=KNC-CONSBRAND —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.44.214 (talk) 08:40, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As this article points out:

Draw a blue circle on the screen and you’ve just stolen the Blaupunkt logo. Draw a yellow line and you’re copying Visa. Draw a black swoosh and you’re ripping off Nike. The less intricacies involved in creating your masterpiece, the more likely it is that someone has already created it.

Even if there are similarities, it does not necessarily mean that the companies are linked in some way.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I call that the "duh" or "easy anti-thesis" argument, which provides you the illusion of intellectual progress. The superior response is "I don't know, but it is interesting to note."

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