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Hi all, I don't plan on running for commission unless we have a lack of candidates, but am available to help with some of the coordination stuff having done this many times. Ping me if there is something you think I could help with! — xaosflux ^Talk 11:07, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should all be set up for now, but I'd appreciate it if you could check we haven't done anything especially stupid -- Asartea ^{Talk | Contribs} 12:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

how can I get in touch with coordinator about working here? I also found information that isn't true on this website and id like someone to please fix it. Who can I contact? 146.245.180.221 (talk) 22:40, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 146.* this page is only for questions specifically about the internal 2023 arbitration committee election, if you have a question please start a new section at the bottom of this page. Please note, election participation is only open to certain registered users. For general questions about how to use Wikipedia, you may want to start at Wikipedia:Teahouse. — xaosflux ^Talk 22:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Cyberpower678:, will you be available to help with list generation this year? — xaosflux ^Talk 11:08, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes —CYBERPOWER (Message) 11:58, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given the somewhat lacking amount of volunteers for ELECTCOM so far I've send extra notices to both AN and VPM; I think last year we also canvassed the functionaries mailing list, but I can't recall offhand what the email for that is -- Asartea ^{Talk | Contribs} 07:17, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Asartea, oop, I already sent an AN message 🙈 I also sent messages to IRC, Discord, wikimedia-announce and wikipedia-l. — Frostly (talk) 22:28, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There was talk about having fresh blood run this year, but given the few submissions, I've tossed my name in there.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 01:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I might have tried tossing my hat in, but I've been far too inactive this last year -- Asartea ^{Talk | Contribs} 15:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Due to two of four coordinators currently running for ELECTCOM, I was wondering if Coordination and Electoral Commission are able to overlap, or if they're generally separate? I don't think there's a need for me to volunteer for ELECTCOM at this rate due to the current 5, but I'd be happy to assist with coordination this year if there's still room. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:30, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They overlap; every member of ELECTCOM is also a de facto coordinator (because coords are just volunteers who do the boring bits of ensuring pages actually work) -- Asartea ^{Talk | Contribs} 08:48, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For future reference, ArbCom in December 2021 changed the functionaries mailing list to accept incoming mail only from list subscribers, see Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard/Archive 13#Changes to the Functionaries email list. Mz7 (talk) 01:54, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just leaving a note that I've posted on SN asking for scrutineers; it is a bit earlier in the year, but I thought it'd allow for a more comfortable timeline. Superpes15 has already volunteered. — Frostly (talk) 23:28, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith, @Xaosflux, @Cyberpower678, welcome to ElectCom! It might be wise to formally seat the three stewards who have already volunteered to scrutineer. It'd be great to have a reserve appointed sometime, but if not, it's not the end of the world :) — Frostly (talk) 00:08, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I left a note at meta:SN; optimally we would like at least 1 reserve so can give it a little time. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:15, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith / @Cyberpower678 - we've got 3 and no reserve so far; Martin indicates he could become reserve if we get another but no one else is stepping up right now; ready to empanel these 3? — xaosflux ^Talk 08:49, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I didn't realize there was anything we needed to do there. I'll take a look at the thread on meta, thanks for the ping. RoySmith (talk) 14:05, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I listed the three we got. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:05, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for non-response. My approval is implied here. :-)—CYBERPOWER (Trick or Treat) 19:31, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See phab:T348902 for tracking regarding WMF support, SecurePoll, etc. — Frostly (talk) 22:29, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In 2013, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2013 § Voting procedure: proposing change "No vote" to "Abstain" passed, and in that year, Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2013 documented both the choices and the results accordingly. In 2014, though, Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2014 stated that there would be an abstain option, but reported the results with a "neutral" option. Every election since has used "neutral". Should this be adopted as the de-facto procedure, in spite of it being against the previously established consensus, or should the 2013 consensus be re-instated? (Note 2013 was the year when a Village pump RFC established that the previous year's rules would be used as a basis for the current year's election, with the annual RfC discussing discussing changes.) isaacl (talk) 19:14, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given that no one has expressed a concern on the issue or brought it up at the RFC this year, I’d say leave it as it was last year. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:02, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is a mismatch of terms, however as the posted information at this years summary ahead of this year's RFC reflected the "Neutral" option as listed (and has been since 2014); the 2017 RFC affrimed that support/oppose/neutral options for each candidate will remain. I've udpated ACERULES to fix the terminolgy there. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:10, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Isaacl I can't find a discussion to change it from Abstain to Neutral right now, but with 10 years of precedent plus the affirmation in the RFC above it is quite fixed now. May of course be revisited next year in the election RFC. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2014 § Vacant seats states there will be an abstain option. I imagine there was a mismatch when the poll was set up and thus the results was posted with a neutral option. isaacl (talk) 00:24, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Isaacl it looks like what may have happened is that in 2014 the vote got moved to an updated instance of securepoll, and S/N/O were the default labels. Especially back then, once the poll was set up it was very fragile and changing it could break things. I'd certainly say that 10 years of production configuration speaks more to a current consensus then that old RFC. It is possible to rename these labels in the current software, if we want to bring that back up next year. — xaosflux ^Talk 02:45, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sure; I was only clarifying that 2015 was the first year when the "neutral" option was described on the election page prior to the end of voting. isaacl (talk) 04:18, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What is the general process of creating the list for voters, as described in the to-do section? Do we use a quarry? - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 00:09, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, its too big for quarry; a dump and custom script is generally used - Cyberpower678 is scheduled to work on that already. Once ready it will need a LOT of spot-checks, especially about edge cases. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:15, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Coordinators, one thing that can use help is to keep the Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023/Candidates/Guide up to date as people nominate themselves. Look at a prior year for an example. Thank you! — xaosflux ^Talk 00:20, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve gone ahead and done ToBeFree. Can you spot check it to see if everything looks okay before I do others? - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 00:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Illusion Flame, LGTM. — Frostly (talk) 00:38, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) § ACE suffrage list. Frostly (talk) 00:43, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please leave any issues found on this page. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:46, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I checked a couple pages and couldn't easily find this info. I suggest placing it somewhere more prominent. The pages I checked were Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023/Questions, Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023/Candidates, Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023, and this talk page. After typing all this out, I finally found the info at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023/Coordination. So maybe add a link to that page to {{ACE2023}}? If not no worries. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 12:10, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We do have a contact the coordinators link (to this page) in the template that is on most election pages; I've added a top note on this page to the list. — xaosflux ^Talk 12:21, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I responded to an edit request to change the watchlist wording. Diff. I think it's likely an uncontroversial improvement, but I defer to the coordinators on this. Feel free to adjust. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 12:18, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

LGTM. — xaosflux ^Talk 12:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Novem Linguae. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 13:59, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All of the candidates appear to meet the eligibility requirements and I have loaded them to securepoll. If any issues or concerns, please ping me on reply. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:09, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

LGTM. Thanks! — Frostly (talk) 19:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine to me. Also, when do we normally send out the massmessage? - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 02:44, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Based on my talk page archives, shortly after the polls open. In 2020 I received the message just under 2 hours after the start of voting, in 2021 6 minutes after and in 2022 the wait was 27 minutes. Thryduulf (talk) 09:22, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]