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*'''Support''' per nom. The page should be at "[[Major (rank)]]", and the disambiguation page should be at the basename. <small>[[User:Paintspot|Paintspot Infez]] ([[User talk:Paintspot|talk]])</small> 18:59, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom. The page should be at "[[Major (rank)]]", and the disambiguation page should be at the basename. <small>[[User:Paintspot|Paintspot Infez]] ([[User talk:Paintspot|talk]])</small> 18:59, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
*'''Support move to [[Major (rank)]]''' for consistency with similar articles like [[Private (rank)]]. [[General (disambiguation)]] should also be moved to [[General]]. [[User:Rreagan007|Rreagan007]] ([[User talk:Rreagan007|talk]]) 19:15, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
*'''Support move to [[Major (rank)]]''' for consistency with similar articles like [[Private (rank)]]. [[General (disambiguation)]] should also be moved to [[General]]. [[User:Rreagan007|Rreagan007]] ([[User talk:Rreagan007|talk]]) 19:15, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
*'''Support move to [[Major (rank)]]''' per those above. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 23:59, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
*'''Support move to [[Major (rank)]]''', and disambiguation of the base page name, per those above. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 23:59, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
*'''Weak support''' the term is rather generic and there are several uses. Academic major has 3,463 views compared with 13,068 for this one but the film has 25,797 and the dog has 19,050[[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&range=latest-20&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_(disambiguation)]]. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 16:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
*'''Weak support''' the term is rather generic and there are several uses. Academic major has 3,463 views compared with 13,068 for this one but the film has 25,797 and the dog has 19,050[[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&range=latest-20&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_(disambiguation)]]. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 16:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
*:That query does betray a bit of obvious recentism, though. If we extend the time period in that query to all time - [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&start=2015-07-01&end=2023-10-21&target=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMajor_(disambiguation)&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major%20(disambiguation) like this] - the picture is quite a bit different, yet it still clearly indicates that there are quite a few other meanings the interest in which is at least comparable to the military rank meaning. So the argument for keeping the military rank as primary topic would really need to be fleshed out to keep the status quo. WikiNav does not indicate a lot of interest in the hatnote, but with so much organic interest in the military rank topic just the appearance of the hatnote in the top 10 of outgoing clickstreams is suspicious enough. ('''Support''') --[[User:Joy|Joy]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 18:12, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
*:That query does betray a bit of obvious recentism, though. If we extend the time period in that query to all time - [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&start=2015-07-01&end=2023-10-21&target=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMajor_(disambiguation)&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major%20(disambiguation) like this] - the picture is quite a bit different, yet it still clearly indicates that there are quite a few other meanings the interest in which is at least comparable to the military rank meaning. So the argument for keeping the military rank as primary topic would really need to be fleshed out to keep the status quo. WikiNav does not indicate a lot of interest in the hatnote, but with so much organic interest in the military rank topic just the appearance of the hatnote in the top 10 of outgoing clickstreams is suspicious enough. ('''Support''') --[[User:Joy|Joy]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 18:12, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

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Requested move 25 December 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. (non-admin closure) Surachit (talk) 01:03, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Not primary topic. Interstellarity (talk) 21:56, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Here's a search query for mainspace [[major]] wikilinks, ordered randomly. I checked 60, and found 0 that were mistargeted. Bad ptopics usually come with a pretty high rate of mistargeted links. Since I'm not seeing it here, I'm inclined to think the current ptopic is appropriate. @Interstellarity: What are the principal other meanings that you see as competing with the military rank for primary topic? Colin M (talk) 16:59, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Colin M: Other meanings can be a college major, there is also major and minor in music. Also, Minor is a disambiguation page and has a similar meanings to major. Interstellarity (talk) 17:26, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    erm... Because there is no minor in military? —usernamekiran(talk) 23:02, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I fixed all I found, out of 5,500 hits there were: 8 articles referring to academic major, 3 to major scale, 3 to "big", and 1 to tennis. – Thjarkur (talk) 02:05, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Colin M's check just confirms what I suspected from a glance at the dab page. There is no problem in need of a fix. Srnec (talk) 01:39, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • The military rank will always have the most incoming links, but I imagine a significant number of our readers will be looking for majors in colleges and music. I've added them to the hatnote to make navigation easier. This page has 20,000 monthly views while the disambiguation page has only 650, so my intuition may be incorrect (do we have numbers on whether readers actually click on disambiguation pages?). Incoming links were almost all correct as above, would require a bot to fix those 5,000 links. I do think this move would be somewhat helpful to readers but it's maybe enough to have the other common targets in the hatnote. – Thjarkur (talk) 02:05, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Minor. Hyperbolick (talk) 19:45, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    With all due respect, I think this is a facile argument. Orange doesn't have a primary topic. Does that mean that Red, Green and Purple should all be dab pages as well? Each case is different because each term has a different set of ambiguous terms of varying significance. Colin M (talk) 19:54, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support There is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this word.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:03, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Not seen greatly more than Major scale. So I don't see a problem with this proposal. --Quiz shows 09:49, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • This page has been at this place since 2003. I'm pretty sure it is older than any policy suggesting it should be moved. We should therefore ignore such policies and leave it as is, especially when the evidence suggests that nobody is the worse for it. Srnec (talk) 17:50, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. There is no convincing reason to change the long-standing status quo. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:57, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Per arguments listed above. Garuda28 (talk) 14:27, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 22:05, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. No evidence presented that any other topic is a contender for the primary. The status quo is correct.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:27, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • oppose major is definitely primary topic. Also per Colin M's check, and per Amakuru. —usernamekiran(talk) 22:59, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose A solution in search of a problem. --rogerd (talk) 23:27, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Police forces in the US and UAE often have the rank Major. The page on Captain includes the police rank. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.211.242.173 (talk) 20:12, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology of 'major' as a stand-alone rank name

Currently, the text of the article seems to imply that the rank of 'major' derives from 'sergeant major' ("Historically, the rank designation develops in English in the 1640s, taken from French majeur, in turn a shortening of sergent-majeur, which at the time designated a higher rank than at present.[citation needed]"). That is, quite frankly, nonsense. As a stand-alone rank name, it is shortened from 'captain major' (capitanus maior), meaning, approximately, "most important captain". It was historically applied to the most senior captain when multiple captains had their forces combined into a unit of sorts. 82.176.221.176 (talk) 10:58, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 21 October 2023

– IMO the military rank does not seem to be the primary topic. Academic major is a very common term, and the DAB page should be moved to Major. I think there is no primary topic (see WP:PTOPIC). I know there was a move discussion earlier but it was over 4 years ago. TheLatinNerd (talk) 17:29, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, move first to Major (rank). Based on pageviews, as well as long-term significance, the rank does not seem to outperform the combination of the all the other entries at the dab page that may be referred to as simply "major". Mdewman6 (talk) 18:06, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. The page should be at "Major (rank)", and the disambiguation page should be at the basename. Paintspot Infez (talk) 18:59, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support move to Major (rank) for consistency with similar articles like Private (rank). General (disambiguation) should also be moved to General. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:15, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support move to Major (rank), and disambiguation of the base page name, per those above. BD2412 T 23:59, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support the term is rather generic and there are several uses. Academic major has 3,463 views compared with 13,068 for this one but the film has 25,797 and the dog has 19,050[[1]]. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    That query does betray a bit of obvious recentism, though. If we extend the time period in that query to all time - like this - the picture is quite a bit different, yet it still clearly indicates that there are quite a few other meanings the interest in which is at least comparable to the military rank meaning. So the argument for keeping the military rank as primary topic would really need to be fleshed out to keep the status quo. WikiNav does not indicate a lot of interest in the hatnote, but with so much organic interest in the military rank topic just the appearance of the hatnote in the top 10 of outgoing clickstreams is suspicious enough. (Support) --Joy (talk) 18:12, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The military rank is a clear primary topic here. It has a clear longterm significance compared with the film and dog, and academic major isn't really a big deal. Absolutely no reason to change the longterm status quo here.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:20, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support move to Major (rank) per above, and move DAB to base name.--Ortizesp (talk) 23:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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