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Noob user here. A certain editor of this page (no names mentioned, I appreciate the effort taken to add content, regardless) has an annoying habit of splitting infinitives when starting sentences. There are also many grammatical manglings unmeritoriously meandering across the page. I can't edit the page, since it's protected for good reason. What to do? AbominableIntelligence (talk) 15:12, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• AbominableIntelligence, you can make an edit requests on this talk page. Kleinpecan (talk) 17:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Kleinpecan. It seems, however, that others have the situation well in hand, and my thanks go out to them as well. AbominableIntelligence (talk) 04:25, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An answer to these problems - arriving on this page I expected to see a chronology - that's a good idea - but it needs to have single line summaries I think, not detail. Citations are there for a purpose and a reader can go to those. Many of the events have their own articles, as I am finding, some titled after place names. This page could be a central index - it's already doing that but a decision needs to be arrived at about a better format. I've just made a link to it from the main article. Or what I think of as the main article.. Thelisteninghand (talk) 22:24, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nuclear power plant, U.S. President Biden spoke on the phone with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on the 25th. The two leaders called on Russia to return control of the Russian-occupied Zaporozhye nuclear power plant to Ukraine and accept the dispatch of an International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) investigation mission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irpower (talk • contribs) 12:30, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't know how editing works with semi-protected pages, but I think it would be helpful to add the diplomatic context to the outset.

08/02/2022 - French President Emmanuel Macron announced that Putin had assured him that he would not escalate the situation in Ukraine. (https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-russia-diplomacy-emmanuel-macron-europe-9dd7eb560d26a81306604dcb1c81bddb) 18/02/2022 - US President Joe Biden told reporters at the White House that he was convinced the Putin had decided to invade Ukraine. (https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/biden-ukraine-russia-invasion-intelligence/) 20/02/2022 - Russian Ambassador to the US Anatoly Antonov claimed on US television, "There is no invasion and there is [sic] no such plans... We don't threaten anyone." (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-ambassador-anatoly-antonov-no-such-plans-invasion-face-the-nation/). SamuelDrury (talk) 14:39, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the details page for the main timeline map animation, there is some sort of technical hurdle for the size of animated previews. On my mobile device, the image does not animate at all and only ever shows one frame - the state of affairs (as it were) on the outbreak of the invasion - it's not informative at all. May I propose that we put it on a serious diet so that only the most salient changes are reflected? I am also of the opinion that only a broad outline of the territorial situation at each point is necessary and that finer detail is superfluous. Alternatively, perhaps the last (most current) frame could be placed as the first frame, so that if only one frame is displayed, it shows the current situation. AbominableIntelligence (talk) 04:58, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This wiki entry has mainly focused on Conventional warfare however on the 3rd September there is a paragraph dedicated to Attrition/Economic warfare between Russia and NATO countries. Given the stage of events, should the entry expand to document economic conflict or should we stick to just conventional conflict? 84.71.143.172 (talk) 07:59, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The most recent discussion on splitting that I could find was in June–July, here; it seemed to have consensus to split but not much on where to split. We're now at a readable prose size of 140 kB, so I'd like to again propose splitting this page (it clearly needs to be). I think it would be best to split it the same way that 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine § Invasion and resistance is split: into two phases, 24 February – 7 April and 8 April – present (prelude/buildup would stay here). This would make for better consistency with that article, and enable the addition of section hatnotes on that page linking to the timeline pages for each section. By my quick scan, they are also at about the same size. If there is consensus on 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to add another phase, then we would likely split again (e.g., if the current Ukrainian counteroffensive was successful and considerably changed the state of the war, that would probably lead to a "third phase"). Is this proposal acceptable? If this works, what should the split articles be called (date ranges or first/second phase)? Tol (talk | contribs) @ 19:36, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment please nobody bring up the idea that this split might be "politically motivated", please. Great Mercian (talk) 20:33, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a weekly version of the animation? I think the animation should be replaced by a weekly one instead of a daily one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.216.128.96 (talk) 19:45, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

no. besides that would make things harder. Great Mercian (talk) 21:43, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please explain why it would make things harder? The gif is morbidly obese as it is and doesn't load on my android device regardless of the browser I use,and I'm pretty sure I can't be the only one. Accessibility to the information contained in the image should be considered and not be a privilege due only to desktop users. AbominableIntelligence (talk) 21:49, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What happened on the 8th of September? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.244.210.117 (talk) 06:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• 195.244.210.117, the Queen died, among some other things — AdrianHObradors (talk) 09:50, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Which took everything out of a lot of news papers. Slatersteven (talk) 12:40, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At the 14 September 2022 part, it states: "Putin told German Chancellor Olaf Scholz that he did not believe that the invasion of Ukraine was a mistake. [needs context]." Look up at many sources and you'll see it appears he didn't but Olaf did. So it's not the same as saying Putin said it, even though Olaf saw it pretty much seemed that Putin didn't see invading Ukraine as a mistake. Therefore it's accurate to say Olaf said, hope that makes sense.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/14/scholz-putin-does-not-believe-he-made-a-mistake-invading-ukraine

Vladimir Putin seems to believe he did not commit a mistake by launching an invasion of Ukraine, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said on Wednesday after a 90-minute-long telephone call with the Russian president. “Sadly, I cannot tell you that the impression has grown that it was a mistake to begin this war,” Scholz told journalists a day after his exchange with Putin."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62907923 Russian President Vladimir Putin does not realise the invasion of Ukraine is a mistake, German chancellor Olaf Scholz has said, after the leaders spoke on the phone on Tuesday.

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/vladimir-putin-doesnt-see-invading-ukraine-as-mistake-says-german-chancellor-olaf-scholz-article-94209051

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Wednesday said that Russian President Vladimir Putin did not think he committed a "mistake" by invading Ukraine. During a 90-minute-long phone call on Tuesday, the German Chancellor discussed the situation in Ukraine with the Russian President

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/vladimir-putin-doesnt-see-invading-ukraine-as-mistake-says-german-chancellor-olaf-scholz-article-94209051

https://www.rferl.org/a/germany-scholz-putin-believes-ukraine-invasion-correct-move/32033894.html 149.20.252.131 (talk) 17:30, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone there? 2603:6011:9600:52C0:B491:C006:24EB:CD18 (talk) 19:51, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

U m ? ? ? 149.20.252.132 (talk) 12:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've fixed it. In the future, you may use the {{Edit semi-protected}} template for a quicker response (see Wikipedia:Edit requests#Making requests). Kleinpecan (talk) 12:32, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

👍 149.20.252.132 (talk) 12:59, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did anything happen? Great Mercian (talk) 23:08, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

One source copied. Has it been supported? Who are the 'Russian-backed separatists in Luhansk province' exactly? Xx236 (talk) 12:35, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Literally the same words in other agencies. Strange. Xx236 (talk) 12:39, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well given that there are Russian-backed separatists in Luhansk, its hardly a surprise lots of sources would call them that. Slatersteven (talk) 12:43, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

With literally the same words?Xx236 (talk) 12:56, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The entry for 21st September discussing the release of prisoners by Russia as part of a prisoner swap has a quote from Robert Jenrick who the article states is the U.K. health minister. Jenrick is a junior minister in the U.K. health department but he is not the Secretary of State, that is the principal minister responsible for health, that is currently Therese Coffey, it should state that he is a junior health minister. 2A00:23C8:905:2701:9122:5182:87D4:D1A5 (talk) 12:45, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; I've fixed it. Kleinpecan (talk) 12:57, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]