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I'm dealing at the moment with an out-of-date PDF from JeppView, and can get the latest later today or another day but if anyone wants to look here https://vau.aero/navdb/chart/WIII.pdf at page 12 you'll see that appears to be the most logical DP aka SID that the flight was on. Specifically the DOLTA1B - however as I said this document is out-of-date so it's possible another SID has been created since this one which took the place of it, or that I'm not properly analyzing the flight path in relation to the fixes (waypoints). Just some food for thought, though. Psx1337 (talk) 17:03, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The KNKT preliminary report states 6 crew and 56 passengers - i.e. counting the deadheading crew as pax and not crew. Should the infobox and article be amended to reflect this? Mjroots (talk) 08:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• • I noticed that as well. considering this new update from NTSC, I think we should change the number accordingly. PaPa PaPaRoony (talk) 00:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article refers to the CVR's memory module, but in the modern era it's far more conventional to refer to it as a storage module or data storage module. The Wikipedia pages reflect the complicated and rather convoluted history, but modern industry reasonably consistently refers to non-volatile data containers as storage and volatile data containers as memory, and that sensible convention seems to be deepening.

A key concern is that most ordinary people think of memory as the volatile data containers in their personal cyber devices, and storage as the non-volatile data containers where all their media, apps, and the device's OS reliably reside. And that view is correct, and the products are indeed specified and advertised that way by the firms which design, manufacture, and sell them.

So referring to the CVR's storage module as a memory module probably confuses at least some readers, and it's contrary to a deepening sensible convention. So in the CVR paragraphs I suggest we replace all the memory module instances with storage module, or if a consensus prefers, data storage module.

Thoughts please! If none I'll render the change in about a week. Cheers! --H Bruce Campbell (talk) 18:51, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I rendered the change on 10 March 2021. --H Bruce Campbell (talk) 05:09, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

look at the result a Crashed shortly after takeoff due to pilot error, spatial disorientation and poor crew resource management it!

This will need a reliable source before adding to the article. Do you have one?Nigel Ish (talk) 09:02, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's right! so crashes found the caused by Crashed shortly after takeoff due to pilot error, spatial disorientation and poor crew resource management for sure it. because I know for a reason 115.136.211.52 (talk) 14:01, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]