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→‎no parameter version: Meh, this whole thing was argued enough. Scroot.
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This would add the formatting and the class assignment(?) that editors otherwise can't be bothered to mess around with. Please stop believing that making things hard for people will make them follow your rules. The only practical result of the misguided attempt to force people to research the arguments just to be allowed to use the bloody template is... that people will bypass the template! Somewhat yours, [[User:CapnZapp|CapnZapp]] ([[User talk:CapnZapp|talk]]) 09:29, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
This would add the formatting and the class assignment(?) that editors otherwise can't be bothered to mess around with. Please stop believing that making things hard for people will make them follow your rules. The only practical result of the misguided attempt to force people to research the arguments just to be allowed to use the bloody template is... that people will bypass the template! Somewhat yours, [[User:CapnZapp|CapnZapp]] ([[User talk:CapnZapp|talk]]) 09:29, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
: While it's possible [[WP:CCC|consensus has changed]] since [[Template talk:Unsigned/Archive 2#Why don't we have a set of templates that are USER FRIENDLY|last year]], it's more likely you should just [[WP:STICK|drop the stick]]. Your best bet is probably to find consensus (elsewhere, not here) that {{tl|unsigned-unk}} should be undeleted. [[User:Anomie|Anomie]][[User talk:Anomie|⚔]] 12:08, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
: While it's possible [[WP:CCC|consensus has changed]] since [[Template talk:Unsigned/Archive 2#Why don't we have a set of templates that are USER FRIENDLY|last year]], it's more likely you should just [[WP:STICK|drop the stick]]. Your best bet is probably to find consensus (elsewhere, not here) that {{tl|unsigned-unk}} should be undeleted. [[User:Anomie|Anomie]][[User talk:Anomie|⚔]] 12:08, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

== Is Special:Contributions necessary? ==

I was wondering if the Special:Contributions link is really necessary. I mean, if users add a standard [[WP:4TILDES]] signature, there's no mention of Special:Contributions; only the username and a talk link are shown (varied by preference settings). Further, if a user changes their username, their old username and talk link are given redirects, but the Special:Contributions link is broken.

If a user wishes to add a link to their contributions, they can—and do so—through custom preferences. If someone wishes to see that user's contributions, they can navigate to that user's page or talk page, and click the <code>User contributions</code> link that's along the left edge of the screen.

I therefore propose removing the Special:Contributions link from {{Tl|Unsigned}}, {{Tl|Unsigned IP}}, and {{Tl|Single-purpose account}}.<br />I have placed discussion links on the other two talk pages. <span class="nowrap">&#8212;&#160;[[User:CJDOS|CJDOS,&#160;Sheridan,&#160;OR]]&#160;([[User talk:CJDOS|talk]]) 03:52, 4 September 2021 (UTC)</span>

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Template-protected edit request on 24 November 2020

Copy the sandbox contents into the live template, which has a complete sentence and a useful message to prevent further disruption by continuous unsigned comments. JsfasdF252 (talk) 03:34, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Best seek consensus. Originally intended not to be large because of it's inline placement (not on 2 lines for many). Nor was it's intent as a learning lesson placed on thousands and thousands of edits.--Moxy 🍁 04:01, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

IPv6 and the various unsigned/undated templates

{{unsigned}} (and related templates) seem broken when using an IPv6 address. Special:Contributions only accepts uppercase formatted IP6 addresses, not lowercase, nor mixed case. This should have a regexp to find an IP6 input, and then upcase it to pass it to the contributions link. And do whatever it needs to to select the upper/lower cased version that functions as the actual user page (which I have no idea whether the user page is upcased or downcased). [?action=history] generates lowercased IP6, while [Special:Contrutions] accepts only uppercase IP6, so either way could be the "correct" user page. (MediaWiki appears to treat all different capitalizations of IP6 as different userspace pages)

Example:

-- 70.31.205.108 (talk) 14:20, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Contributions failing on lowercase IPv6 is a recent bug phab:T272225: "Special:Contributions no longer accepts display form of IPv6 addresses". It will presumably be fixed soon in MediaWiki. Discussed at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#MediaWiki userspace and User Contribution special search for IPv6 broken? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:41, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 4 March 2021

Remove the word "Preceding" or replace it with a shorter word to make the template slightly less disruptive. JsfasdF252 (talk) 17:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:32, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • What makes the word "preceding" disruptive? I think constantly not signing your own comments is more disruptive as that is established policy via WP:SIGN. – The Grid (talk) 18:55, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

no parameter version

Please add support for using this template with no parameters.

The main drawback of leaving your comments unsigned is that the autoarchiving bots will then not archive that talk section. If I want to remedy this problem, the unsigned template family currently does not allow me to do this without a lot of bother. I couldn't care less about the exact user name and date, and just want the comment to be signed. Currently, there's no template for this, forcing me to simply post a new comment saying "the previous comment was unsigned ~~~~".

Adding support for no parameters to this template would solve this irritant, like this:

{{unsigned}} produces <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding comment was [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]].</span> ~~~~:

Some random comment. — Preceding comment was unsigned. CapnZapp (talk) 09:29, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This would add the formatting and the class assignment(?) that editors otherwise can't be bothered to mess around with. Please stop believing that making things hard for people will make them follow your rules. The only practical result of the misguided attempt to force people to research the arguments just to be allowed to use the bloody template is... that people will bypass the template! Somewhat yours, CapnZapp (talk) 09:29, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

While it's possible consensus has changed since last year, it's more likely you should just drop the stick. Your best bet is probably to find consensus (elsewhere, not here) that {{unsigned-unk}} should be undeleted. Anomie 12:08, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Is Special:Contributions necessary?

I was wondering if the Special:Contributions link is really necessary. I mean, if users add a standard WP:4TILDES signature, there's no mention of Special:Contributions; only the username and a talk link are shown (varied by preference settings). Further, if a user changes their username, their old username and talk link are given redirects, but the Special:Contributions link is broken.

If a user wishes to add a link to their contributions, they can—and do so—through custom preferences. If someone wishes to see that user's contributions, they can navigate to that user's page or talk page, and click the User contributions link that's along the left edge of the screen.

I therefore propose removing the Special:Contributions link from {{Unsigned}}, {{Unsigned IP}}, and {{Single-purpose account}}.
I have placed discussion links on the other two talk pages. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (talk) 03:52, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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