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To Saff V., please accept my sincere apologies for having made this erroneous block. Welcome back, and if you have any questions, please feel free to ask me on [[User talk:Mz7|my user talk page]]. [[User:Mz7|Mz7]] ([[User talk:Mz7|talk]]) 22:53, 28 April 2021 (UTC)}}
To Saff V., please accept my sincere apologies for having made this erroneous block. Welcome back, and if you have any questions, please feel free to ask me on [[User talk:Mz7|my user talk page]]. [[User:Mz7|Mz7]] ([[User talk:Mz7|talk]]) 22:53, 28 April 2021 (UTC)}}
*{{ping|Blablubbs|Mz7}} I was really astonished to see such a strong conclusion was made based on some trivial clues. Saff V is a reputable user and has done a lot of valuable edits to Wikipedia. Hence I believe there are much more evidences proving they are not the same. Just look at their languages; Though they are both non-native, Ghazaalch has a better grasp on English language. I think the "pick up" and "summery" items were well explained by Ghazaalch on their talk page. Saff V is not a new user and I believe sockpuppetry seems like the silliest solution for resolving his ban or block. Moreover, [[user:Oshwah|Oshwah]]'s investigations did not end up with a concrete evidence except that they are "in the same geolocation and '''very wide range'''". Needless to mention that they have different time cards and editing behavior. Moreover, I believe [[User:El C|El C]]'s comment may also be determining here given his experience. I think the least thing we can say here is the case needs an in depth investigation and we should not rely on the superficial items presented in the SPI case. --[[User:Mhhossein|<span style="font-family:Aharoni"><span style="color:#002E63">M</span><span style="color:#2E5894">h</span><span style="color:#318CE7">hossein</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mhhossein|<span style="color:#056608">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 19:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
*{{ping|Blablubbs|Mz7}} I was really astonished to see such a strong conclusion was made based on some trivial clues. Saff V is a reputable user and has done a lot of valuable edits to Wikipedia. Hence I believe there are much more evidences proving they are not the same. Just look at their languages; Though they are both non-native, Ghazaalch has a better grasp on English language. I think the "pick up" and "summery" items were well explained by Ghazaalch on their talk page. Saff V is not a new user and I believe sockpuppetry seems like the silliest solution for resolving his ban or block. Moreover, [[user:Oshwah|Oshwah]]'s investigations did not end up with a concrete evidence except that they are "in the same geolocation and '''very wide range'''". Needless to mention that they have different time cards and editing behavior. Moreover, I believe [[User:El C|El C]]'s comment may also be determining here given his experience. I think the least thing we can say here is the case needs an in depth investigation and we should not rely on the superficial items presented in the SPI case. --[[User:Mhhossein|<span style="font-family:Aharoni"><span style="color:#002E63">M</span><span style="color:#2E5894">h</span><span style="color:#318CE7">hossein</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mhhossein|<span style="color:#056608">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 19:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

== I hope you're back soon ==

I just realized you're sick and can not edit any longer. It's not a good news for me and for the Wikipedia and I hope you're back very soon, healthy and happy. --[[User:Mhhossein|<span style="font-family:Aharoni"><span style="color:#002E63">M</span><span style="color:#2E5894">h</span><span style="color:#318CE7">hossein</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mhhossein|<span style="color:#056608">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 12:03, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

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Amirsara (talk) 17:04, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for sockpuppetry

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts per the evidence presented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Saff V.. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Mz7 (talk) 22:12, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Saff V. (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))


Request reason:

I got blocked in April 2020 from editing the MEK and articles related to Iran's politic. from that time, I have tried to behave as the warning you mentioned and stopped any edits which violate the warning(such as it). I am an experienced user and many users appreciated my efforts on Wikipedia (the last one) then there will be no reason for me to pose a risk to my user, while I knew that the ban will be removed by passing a year. As you know I haven't edited since long ago because of illness and I will not be able to activate soon. But I can't stand my account being blocked for no convincing reason. it is really a silly idea to create a suspected account for me because my account is very old and valuable.

I used the "summery" phrase 3 years ago to mention something about "edit summary" while Ghazaalch didn't use that phrase for this mean. I use the "pick up" phrase as a substitution for "remove" but Vanamonde told me that does not convey the meaning. from that time I stopped using the phrase (if it is needed, I can send that diff). About the rest of the reasons, there are many other active users on the Mek article who have similar ideas such as Stefka, Barca. Can we accused them of suspected sock puppets because they have the same ideas or POV? Similar pov is not enough. Another clear point is the time when I was active in Wikipedia. If compare over time you will notice that the pattern of my edit time is so different from that user.(me and Ghazaalch)

if you check our logs, I often edited political articles, while Ghazaalch is focused on Shia ones. Therefore, while I was only limited to editing political articles, I was able to edit religious articles with my current user and there was no reason to establish a new one. @El C: I wonder if you mention your opinion as an active and experienced admin in the MEK article.Saff V. (talk) 19:53, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Accept reason:

After reviewing this case further, I have decided to unblock Saff V. and Ghazaalch.

The technical evidence here is relatively inconclusive: we can only conclude from the CU data that the editors are editing from the same country. Additionally, one user has only edited from a desktop computer in the last three months and the other only from a phone.

The behavioral idiosyncrasies highlighted in the SPI were initially convincing to me and apparently several other editors. However, after more holistically examining the writing style of the two editors, I found that there are sufficient dissimilarities to raise doubt as to whether the editors are the same user. Specifically, Mhhossein correctly points out that Ghazaalch's command of the English language appears to be stronger than Saff V.'s. You can find a few examples of this in Saff V.'s talk page archives, e.g. [1][2]. Compared with Ghazaalch, it does feel like they are different users [3][4]. In light of these concerns, it seems to me that the behavioral similarities highlighted in the SPI were merely coincidental, and I think the possibility should be seriously entertained that Ghazaalch's is another editor who merely has the same editing interests and viewpoints as Saff V.

To Saff V., please accept my sincere apologies for having made this erroneous block. Welcome back, and if you have any questions, please feel free to ask me on my user talk page. Mz7 (talk) 22:53, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Blablubbs and Mz7: I was really astonished to see such a strong conclusion was made based on some trivial clues. Saff V is a reputable user and has done a lot of valuable edits to Wikipedia. Hence I believe there are much more evidences proving they are not the same. Just look at their languages; Though they are both non-native, Ghazaalch has a better grasp on English language. I think the "pick up" and "summery" items were well explained by Ghazaalch on their talk page. Saff V is not a new user and I believe sockpuppetry seems like the silliest solution for resolving his ban or block. Moreover, Oshwah's investigations did not end up with a concrete evidence except that they are "in the same geolocation and very wide range". Needless to mention that they have different time cards and editing behavior. Moreover, I believe El C's comment may also be determining here given his experience. I think the least thing we can say here is the case needs an in depth investigation and we should not rely on the superficial items presented in the SPI case. --Mhhossein talk 19:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you're back soon

I just realized you're sick and can not edit any longer. It's not a good news for me and for the Wikipedia and I hope you're back very soon, healthy and happy. --Mhhossein talk 12:03, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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