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== [[Al-Aqsa Intifada]] ==

Globally, "Second Intifada" is universally recognized, whereas "Al Aqsa intifada" only has recognition in Middle Eastern sources, or is only referenced as a secondary name in non-Arabic scholarship. I think it was a mistake to move this page with quite literally no discussion. [[User:Wikieditor19920|Wikieditor19920]] ([[User talk:Wikieditor19920|talk]]) 17:29, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

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Yemenite War of 1972

Hello, Greyshark09! If you have any idea/suggestion how to expand Yemenite War of 1972 (to appear somewhat similar to Yemenite War of 1979), feel free to implement/discuss it! Cheers! --Sundostund (talk) 02:26, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will take a look. Very interesting topic User:Sundostund.GreyShark (dibra) 21:25, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Syrian Civil War infobox

Except in regards to including them as a belligerent against Iran and Hezbollah (periodic airstrikes), I know you have been always an opponent of inserting Israel, for various reasons, in the infobox as a country that supports the rebels. If you are still opposing the inclusion, despite the number of sources supporting it, fine, I won't argue. Leave it removed if you will. Except on a few ongoing topics/articles on Wikipedia I have semi-retired from it anyway. Cheers and good editing! :) EkoGraf (talk) 08:29, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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1979–80 Shia uprising in Iraq

I'll check it out, thanks! :) EkoGraf (talk) 13:20, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article "Israel-Palestine relations"

Hi, Greyshark09. I have noticed where you have made constructive edits on the article Israel–Palestine relations. With that said, I have also noticed a few grammatical mistakes and errors in the section entitled "Politics", within that article, and which, although not made by you, perhaps can be fixed by you. Currently, the first paragraph in that sections reads as follows:

The political relationship is rooted in conflict between Israel and Palestine. The conflict is over whether or not Palestinians should be able to form its own separate country in government within a part of land that currently belongs to Israel. Palestine, in the years before 1948, was piece of land surrounded by the Jordan River, Egypt, the Mediterranean Sea, Syria and Lebanon.[12] The battle over this specific area of land has arisen due to contrasting views on who has a valid claim to the land. According to Jews, the Hebrew Bible states that Palestine has been promised to them by God. They believe that modern day Palestine was ancient Israel. However, Palestinian Arabs are unwilling and unable to acknowledge their claim of Israel. Palestinians believe that because they maintained control of the land, it should stay in their possession. The continual conflict between Israel and Palestine regarding their inability to acknowledge the other's claims to territory has resulted in many years of violence and instability in the region.

The paragraph should be corrected to read as follows:

The political relationship is rooted in conflict between Israel and Palestine. The conflict revolves around whether or not Palestinians should be able to form their own separate country and government within a part of land that currently belongs to Israel. Palestine, in the years before 1948, was a territory surrounded by the Jordan River, Egypt, the Mediterranean Sea, Syria and Lebanon.[1] The battle over this specific area of land has arisen due to contrasting views on who has a valid claim to the land. The Israeli government views the territories it won in the Six-Day War of 1967 as vital to its security.[2] Besides security considerations, it cites the fact that Jews have lived in Judea-Samaria (the West Bank) and Gaza Strip continuously for 4000 years since Biblical times and throughout the centuries since then.[2] Palestinian Arabs, for their part, are unwilling to acknowledge the claims of Israel. The continual conflict between Israel and Palestine regarding their inability to acknowledge the other's claims to territory has resulted in many years of violence and instability in the region.

The revision would make its reading flow easier, besides correcting the grammatical mistakes and providing additional sourcing. Hopefully, the above edit will greatly improve that article.

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--Sincerely, Davidbena (talk) 11:25, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it, sounds good.GreyShark (dibra) 19:13, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there. I noticed you removed all "alleged" belligerents and changed several instances of "Syrian government" to "Baathist Syria". Regarding Wikipedia:Alleged, I don't think that applies here. This is an article covering participants in a conflict, not a specific individual or organization accused of a crime. Many Wiki articles covering conflicts use "alleged" if the party in question has not acknowledged its participation; perhaps we should add who is doing the alleging and if the party in question has issued a denial? As for "Baathist Syria", I don't think this is an appropriate term to use on this article. The Syrian government under Assad are still widely recognized as the government of Syria, and even in countries that have formally recognized the Syrian Interim Government, the press uses the term "Syrian government" to describe Assad. "Baathist Syria" may be accurate, but it's a politically charged term. If the SIG were listed at List of states with limited recognition, it might be appropriate to distinguish between different internationally-recognized governments in Syria, but see that page's exclusion section: "Those areas undergoing current civil wars and other situations with problems over government succession, regardless of temporary alignment with the inclusion criteria (e.g. by receiving recognition as state or legitimate government), where the conflict is still in its active phase, the situation is too rapidly changing and no relatively stable proto-states have emerged yet." I think that same standard should apply here. Or at the very least, we should use "the Assad government" instead. What do you think? Bulbajer (talk) 20:52, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would prefer the official name Syrian Arab Republic for all instances, which correlates with Ba'athist Syria as a common descriptory name for the state instituions (such as Ba'athist Iraq) - Council of Ministers or Syrian Ba'athist government for the government and for its Army we use the official term Syrian Armed Forces. Using "Syrian government" for SAA fighting force is incorrect and misleading - both because the government is not the military force, but commands a military force, and secondly because we have several governments in Syria. To the least we should use Syrian Arab Republic, Syrian Arab Republic's government and Syrian Armed Forces to describe Assad state, Assad government and Assad's Army; I would not go for "Assad's" as common name because it is not official terming and we have not used such terms for Iraqi government and military during Saddam's era (i.e. Saddam's government and Saddam's Army).GreyShark (dibra) 06:07, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. I've changed some of the instances of "Baathist Syria" to "Syrian Arab Republic". What about the "alleged" section? Israel's involvement in particularly is pretty well documented. Bulbajer (talk) 18:53, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You mean Israel and Lebanon? Both were agreed to be listed in Foreign involvement in the Syrian Civil War under "Role of regional states" section, both not being belligerents per definition.GreyShark (dibra) 05:30, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ah okay. Thank you! Bulbajer (talk) 18:23, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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