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We are having a discussion here whether The Beatles discography article should feature tracklistings of the different studio albums. Comments are welcome. Thanks! indopug (talk) 16:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Would anybody be able to assess Alesha Dixon discography? Many thanks.Dt128 (talk) 19:24, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

 Done Cannibaloki 03:27, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Dt128 (talk) 08:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks. — Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 09:04, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

Could someone please re-assess this article?? Dt128 (talk) 22:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Why? Cannibaloki 22:22, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia talk:Featured list criteria#Revised criteria III. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:01, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Just out of interest, how can an article with 38 references be "List Class" as in Duffy discography?? Dt128 (talk) 11:14, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

That is very much a list. Number of references has nothing to do with whether an article is a list or not. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:44, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

ah.. I get it... sorry I just thought that since it was below stub class on the quality scale!Dt128 (talk) 20:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/The Ting Tings discography. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm currently planning to work on a discography and noticed that there are fifteen countries in that table, listing the peak positions. My question here would be, is there a set number on how many countries a table should have? — Σxplicit 05:25, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

General rule of thumb is 10 charts. The chart for the artist's home country is a must (even if he has never charted), and nine others. I always try to get a good mix of charts where the artist charted high and low; if you only put charts where he charted high, it's an unfair POV that promotes the idea he is more successful around the world than he actually is. More than 10 charts is a bit of a stat dump, and is verging into WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Matthewedwards :  Chat  05:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll have no problem mixing high charting and low charting albums and songs. Thanks for the response. — Σxplicit 05:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Usually it is suggested that the UK Singles Chart and Billboard Hot 100 (or component charts of that chart where the band has had active charting on, such as Modern Rock Tracks) be included if they charted as those two are the most easily sourced and important. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 02:28, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

At Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Kronos Quartet discography, there is confusion over what is the correct format of a discography. The aforementioned discography follows a format not seen in FL discographies that were promoted in the last year or so. Please add your input there so we can determine the consensus. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't music videos be in italics? For example, Michael Jackson's Thriller (music video) uses the italics as every other film does. Do U(knome)? ^yes..._{or no} 06:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

No love here? Do U(knome)? ^yes..._{or no} 03:20, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I believe Thriller is in italics in this case because the article is about the video itself, not the song's background information and such, which is why there are two separate articles. So generally, "music video" sections shouldn't be italicized. — Σxplicit 05:05, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't long-form videos be italicized, and short, one-song videos enquoted? Just like albums vs. songs, books vs. short stories and, of course, movies versus short films? -Freekee (talk) 03:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Could somebody take a look at the Candy_Dulfer_discography and Candy_Dulfer pages please?

- I've added a missing album to the discography page which was mentioned on the artist's page. Is there a way to avoid this in the future? - Do the singles need to be on her main page? - Should the albums where she has a guest appearance be there? I mean, is it important to know on which album she played on one track? Not a hostile question, just curious :) ZombieCow (talk) 21:50, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

There isn't much that can be done with inconsistency. Just make sure all her albums are listed in both articles. If there is a separate discography article as there is in this case, the singles shouldn't be listed in Candy Dulfer. Guest appearances are fine to list in her discography. — Σxplicit 21:56, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

The Discography section on the Candy Dulfer page should only include studio albums, so the live and compilation albums should be removed. k-i-a-c (hitmeup - the past) 04:53, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Could somebody take a look at my recent changes on Candy_Dulfer_discography please?

I know that I forgot to add the chart positions, but I will add them later.

Where should I put the collaborations in the infobox?

Should the ref be where it is? or where should I place it if it is incorrect? --ZombieCow (talk) 20:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I gave the article a bit of a copy-edit. For further information of the infobox, a look at Template:Infobox Artist Discography should help. Feel free to ask any further assistance. — Σxplicit 21:45, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm considering taking on the Merzbow discography and attempting to bring it up to Featured List standards, but I require some advice and guidelines before I start as this is possibly the single most difficult and complicated discography to do. I definately do not want to start working on it with one format in mind, only to be told later that it is incorrect. So, how does one handle 17 pseudonyms, 300+ albums, an untold number of miscellaneous tracks, and a dearth of sources to cite from?--Remurmur (talk) 21:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

This one looks like a formidable foe, I look forward to seeing what you can do! My main piece of advice would be to split it up into something more manageable. The article is titled Merzbow discography, so stick to just Merzbow. All the aliases aren't aliases of Merzbow's, they're aliases of Masami Akita. Everything else might be better suited to individual discographies, or maybe a blanket Masami Akita discography article which covers everything other than Merzbow. Obviously no matter how you break it up, the lead would need to clarify the scope of the list, and provide links to any other separate but related lists. Beyond that, I'd rearrange things by format (album, ep, compilation, etc), rather than by year. Then I'd put everything into tables. I don't know that much about Merzbow, but I'm assuming the guy hasn't really charted anywhere, so you may be able to skip that part of what most discogs include. So you may want to take a look at other discogs that skip that. So style-wise, Nation of Ulysses discography, The Make-Up discography, or Lightning Bolt discography might be a few good places to start. Drewcifer (talk) 03:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, I quickly decided that the traditional formatting for discographies would just not work well in this case, so I implemented a sortable table system. I'm stuck on how to handle the rest of the list though. Box sets are a particularly confusing aspect, especially the 50-disc Merzbox. And I'm not even sure if stuff like the appearances and compilation tracks should be kept; they'll be such a pain in the ass to organize...--Remurmur (talk) 01:01, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi all, if you have time, can you take a look at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Duffy discography/archive1 and Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Devin Townsend discography/archive1? We need more eyes, especially with regard to sourcing and content. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 19:13, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Why are video album sections continuously called "DVDs"? A DVD is simply the format in which a video album is released, just as is a VHS or the newer Blu-Ray discs. I never understood this; to me it would be the same as naming studio album sections "CDs". Does anyone have an explanation for this? Do U(knome)? ^yes..._{or no} 05:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I believe they are incorrectly named and should be changed to Video albums. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 06:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

No production discography has yet achieved featured list-class. I propose the following layout. I am uncertain however if Allmusic would be able to adequately source credit column. Please share your signs of support, oppositions or any questions or suggestions you have about it? Thanks! Alex Douglas (talk) 14:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC) {{TOCyears|startyear=2000|endyear=2009|side=yes|center=yes|align=center|nobreak=yes|refs=yes}}

Year	Track(s)	Performer(s)	Album	Credit
2000	"Sweaty"	Jodeci, Timbaland	Diary of a Mad Band	co-writer, co-producer
2001	"Bring on Da' Funk" "Time and Place"	Jodeci	The Show, The After Party, The Hotel	co-writer, producer
2007	"All Day"	Aesop Rock	All Day: Nike+ Original Run	producer
	"Keep off the Lawn" "Catacomb Kids"		None Shall Pass
	"39 Thieves"	Aesop Rock, Timbaland		performer, co-producer
	"Citronella" "Five Fingers"	Aesop Rock		writer, co-producer
2008	"Give Me Love"	Grayskul, Missy Elliot	Bloody Radio

Currently most discographies have this addendum:

"—" denotes albums that weren't released or were released but did not chart.

I was just wondering, isn't this quite a significant distinction? Obviously it isn't going to matter for the likes of The Beatles or Michael Jackson, but wouldn't it be significant for acts whose sales have dramatically changed over time, or vary dramatically between countries? I understand that in many cases we simply won't know which of the two it is, so we need to be able to introduce that ambiguity to make the information accurate, but other times we will know that something was released and didn't chart. Wouldn't this information be useful? 82.13.161.114 (talk) 12:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Dream Theater discography/archive2 and Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Devin Townsend discography/archive2 need eyes desperately. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 19:52, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I have a question for you discography experts. There currently is no article for the band Union Station, merely a disambig that brings you to the page for Alison Krauss. However, I plan on creating that band's own page somewhat soon. Union Station is to Alison Krauss what The E Street Band is to Bruce Springsteen. Springsteen has a successful solo career, and members of the band are notable and famous independent of Springsteen, but they often put out content credited as "Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band". In rhis example Bruce Springsteen discography exists, and credits albums they put out together, while The E Street Band merely has a subsection in the article. However neither of the musician articles nor Bruce's discography are featured, so it's unclear if this is the standard. The best featured-quality example would be Nine Inch Nails and Trent Reznor (Reznor, NIN, and the NIN discography are part of a featured topic). BOTH Nine Inch Nails discography and Trent Reznor discography exist, with all content Reznor produced w/ NIN only under the NIN list.

Taking all of that in, what should Alison Krauss discography be named? I personally feel like I could move this page to Alison Krauss and Union Station discography, use it for both Krauss' solo albums and the AKUS albums, and that would be fine. How about you? Staxringold _talk^contribs 21:50, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

If both are notable enough for their own articles (Enough releases, etc.), then they should both exist separately as Alison Krauss discography and Union Station discography. If Union Station don't have enough releases with that band name, then the discography should stay a part of the band's article. The Alison Krauss discog should only contain her solo releases, with the possibility to mention the band-related releases in the Lead Section or a See Also section. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 14:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

• Union Station doesn't release albums on their own, ONLY w/ Krauss. Staxringold _talk^contribs 14:49, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

So only under the name 'Alison Krauss and Union Station'? Then I would name the discog: Alison Krauss and Union Station discography. And have a separate one for her solo work. I think it wouldn't be too much of a bother either way you go but. I just think if she's done completely separate work with a band, then they aren't technically the same artist, are they? k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 01:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is the answer you're looking for, but I would say that, first of all, there should either be an article about AKUS, or a section in Krauss's article about the band. I'm curious about who's in it, how it formed, and all that. Second, I don't see the need for an AKUS disog page. Maybe if the band had its own article. -Freekee (talk) 03:26, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I recently started a discussion about nominating featured lists for the main page, and wanted to know if perhaps some of you more active list editors would consider contributing to the discussion happening there. ---kilbad (talk) 20:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

There could be light at the end of the tunnel: I've just received an email from the BPI to say that the certification database should be back online in the next couple of weeks. The delay has been due to extra testing they're doing for some additional search options that there will be. --JD554 (talk) 14:30, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

It's back[1]! Let's get those FL noms flowing! --JD554 (talk) 14:51, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

"No matches found. Please try a keyword search."--Cannibaloki 15:00, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

It seems to work fine for me. Have you tried the "Show search help" link? What are you trying to find? --JD554 (talk) 16:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

hey, could anybody please assess Jordin Sparks discography, Mika discography, La Roux discography, Booty Luv discography, Gabrielle discography, Noisettes discography, Taio Cruz discography and Pixie Lott as these are all currently unassessed. Many thanks :) Mister sparky (talk) 17:04, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

La Roux and Booty Luv have an insufficient amount of releases and should be merged back into their main articles. So I have put suggestions at the top of the relevant pages, discuss on their talk pages or here, if need be. Sparks and Mika were already the appropriate Start Class, Pixie Lott is not a part of WP:Discographies; done the others. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 08:13, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Also cleaned up what was in [2]. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 08:21, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I have submitted Noisettes discography for Peer review. I would be very grateful if you could help me out by giving me a few pointers as to how I can improve the article. There are further details at the article's peer review entry. Thanks in advance! - Dt¹²⁸_SpeakToMe 20:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Are we here at Discographies meant to be overlooking Lists of Songs (Category:Lists of songs by authors or performers), also? I am really at a loss as to where i would discuss the pointlessness of them. Any ideas of where to go? k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 08:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

would somebody or some people be able to re-asses the Evanescence discography? at the moment it is a B-Class, but having look through it needs to be downgraded fast! hardly anything is sourced, it includes things that it says dont include at MOS:DISCOG etc. it is very misleading for people! many thanks :) Mister sparky (talk) 23:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I have submitted The Saturdays discography for Peer review. I would appreciate it immensely if anyone could help me out by giving me some feedback on the article, ways to improve it, extra things that could be included etc etc. Details at peer review entry. Thank you! :) Mister sparky (talk) 16:58, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Please check out the discussion and contribute if you know something in particular. I've realized we've been basing alot of discog work on something that hasn't necessarily been figured out, so I'd like to get it address before we keep going too far. Thanks. 19:16, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

hey guys, was wondering if anybody would be able to re-assess a couple of articles.

• Feeder discography and Sugababes discography are both featured lists, but hardly anything is sourced, uses forums for the things that are sourced, and are generally quite poor and really not deserving of featured list status! thanks guys Mister sparky (talk) 23:25, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

hey guys, me again. was just wondering if anybody could re-assess the Phil Collins discography? have been making lots of changes and improvements over the past few days and i know there is still work to be done but just wanted some opinions for improvements and if they think the article is heading in the right direction. thanks :) Mister sparky (talk) 14:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

haha me again! would anybody be able to assess the above article? it is a start-class at the moment due to it was in a terrible state, hardly anything was sourced, lots of info was wrong and just generally in a mess. but its another discography i've been working hard on to improve its quality and was wondering if anybody could take a look :) thanks! Mister sparky (talk) 16:20, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

• Right off the bat 2 lead-related things. First, it's waaaaay too long, consider splitting some off into some kind of history/background section. Second, where's the sourcing for... any of it? Staxringold _talk^contribs 16:36, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

yes i know the lead is a bit long, that was top of my agenda for improvements. the sources for the lead are in the rest of the article... it was my understanding that the lead doesnt have to be full of citations if they were already present in the main article, or have i got that completely wrong? Mister sparky (talk) 16:51, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

shortened the lead and added the citations. Mister sparky (talk) 17:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

The lead is still way too long. WP:LEAD#Length suggests a maximum of four paragraphs (for very long articles). I would have thought two or three would be sufficient. --JD554 (talk) 17:57, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

trimmed a bit more. its now just 3 paragraphs. Mister sparky (talk) 18:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

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I could be wrong here, but I don't think the Matchbox Twenty discography was assessed but missed as it was part of the article for the band. I've been updating it and adding sources and more information. I have a dispute over content in the singles charts at the moment, but once thats settled down, if it hasn't been assessed yet maybe it could be assessed. Hitthat (talk) 12:16, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

"The band's previous hit album, "YOURSELF OR SOMEONE LIKE YOU," was eight-times platinum in Australia, quintuple platinum in New Zealand, quadruple platinum in Canada, platinum in the Philippines, and gold in Ireland and Indonesia." From Time Warner/Atlantic Records. Should sort out the awkward line about NZ certs. For it to be assessed, you really need a stand alone article. Feel free to create one, it has the right to one - just you need to write a lead for it. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 13:17, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I'm working on it now, though it may take a few days to get done. Also, where can I find the site with the information about New Zealand certs? Hitthat (talk) 21:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Record charts/sourcing guide is always a good place to start. NZ is run by RIANZ, so you can use http://www.rianz.org.nz/rianz/chart.asp for certifications after 1999 I think it is. The chart there has the little images next to the releases on the chart, for example I Gotta Feeling has a little platinum triangle next to it. I also sometimes use the PDF chart reports they do, which can be found easily by doing a Google search: [3]. Not sure if earlier certs have been posted online anywhere. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 07:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I actually meant the one you mentioned in you first comment from the record companies Hitthat (talk) 12:06, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Ahh I didn't post the link, umm... what an idiot. Here. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 13:49, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I'll post here again when i've got the discography ready to be assessed Hitthat (talk) 06:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok, it should be about ready now Hitthat (talk) 22:12, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Leaving comments on the page's talk. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 06:53, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok, its probably ready to be assessed again Hitthat (talk) 21:58, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

hey guys, i was wondering if anybody could re-assess the Gabrielle discography? it is currently just a stub class but i have been working on improving the content, sourcing etc and i'm confident it deserves a higher grade. would also like any suggestions for improvement? many thanks :) Mister sparky (talk) 22:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Snow Patrol discography is currently being reviewed for FL. The band released DJ Mix Compilations. Are these considered the same as compilations? It's at least related so I wondered why it isn't under Compilations in the infobox. Is there maybe a parameter for this kind of compilation or should it just be 3 Compilations instead of 1 ?--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 07:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I would just leave them in the normal Compilation albums section. There's nothing concrete on this though, so I'm sure you and the reviewers can come up with an acceptable consensus. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 13:43, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

hey guys, i have nominated the James Blunt discography as a Featured List removal candidate here Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/James Blunt discography/archive1 because it no longer meets the requirements needed for a featured list. opinions please? :) Mister sparky (talk) 02:12, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I think its about ready to be assessed again; it would be great if someone could do that Hitthat (talk) 20:53, 1 October 2009 (UTC)