Thank you for removing that bit, Vauxford. Here is the edit note I was about to attach to the same edit. (But you got in first and did the edit...):

This is silly. If the problem is EurovisionNim and Vauxford dumping all their worst pictures on wikipedia then the solution is for those guys to restrict their uploads to their least bad pictures. If one looks hard enough they have both already uploaded pictures - not enough - that have few or no major issues. Some even moderate to good IMHO. Inflicting more that even EurovisionNim thinks are bad on the rest of us again, as here, doesn't begin to tackle what has become a significant quality problem.

Regards Charles01 (talk) 09:30, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Davey2010 removing this section (and {{@|Vauxford for removing again after it was restored). It became a tutorial on photo taking except using bad pictures as examples. The original text notes were good enough, Perhaps just a couple of images showing how bad shadows or reflections look but no more than that and only with minimal text to say 'shadows and reflections can look bad'. Definitely should not be a how-to guide - see WP:NOTHOWTO. And something that defines which images we use should not be changed so casually.  Stepho  talk  10:18, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Charles01, As Stepho-wrs notes i was the one who initially removed it,

Stepho is absolutely correct it was a HOWTOGUIDE and personally I felt it stopped other photographers from either taking pictures or helping out replacing them,

Although I never stated it below I felt the gallery was a shitlist on Vauxford and I felt it was a poor attempt at trying to tell him "You're a rubbish photographer, Please stop" which was another reason for its removal,

Ofcourse "You know who" may not of added the list however he certainly contributed to it. –Davey2010 ^{Merry Christmas / Happy New Year} 18:31, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At first it was a simple guide and it did include the basics you mention Stepho but as you could see, someone went a bit overkill with it and took it completely out of proportion which Davey rightfully removed it. --Vauxford (talk) 18:59, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Plenty of Vauxford's shots are bad. Take the Nissan examples. Whilst it looks fine on the onset, however when I look a little closer, it looks awful. For now its fine, however he believes his examples are better than most. I do not mind his edits (now looking back, my examples need improvement, due to aperture & ISO issues). He is also very subjective of his angles, which is of slight concern, and I do not understand why. What I can understand is his way of soliciting some really crap examples. Just because Perth is sunny, doesn't mean that its bad. This is Australia, it is supposed to be sunny. Can anyone tell me how to improve my shots, through the reduction of noise. I don't like the Qashqai and Navara and Q7 examples. His powershot ones emit so much noise. --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 02:44, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I removed the "Examples of what to avoid" gallery yesterday as I disagreed with the gallery,

Like I said in the edit summary it all comes down to common sense - You would use the very best image,
It's also worth noting "okay" is subjective - What I might find to be the best image someone else may not and what someone may find the best image I may not .... so it's all subjective,
(For instance I would find this image, this image, this image, this image, this image, this image, this image, this image all to be okay and usable in any article - We need to remember we're an Encyclopedia not a showroom/car dealership)

My other issue I had with the gallery is that the majority were Vauxfords images - Now if you look closely you could find fault with probably every image on here/Commons and so I thought it was very unfair for his to be the majority - Vauxford isn't the perfect photographer but neither is anyone else,

I appreciate we all want the best for the Encyclopedia but like I said it's all common sense.
Cheers –Davey2010 ^{Merry Christmas / Happy New Year} 11:25, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just a heads up I've moved the archives around so instead of for instance 2008 being in 3 seperate folders they're now all in one folder,
I've removed the years from the archive table tho as we shouldn't need to keep updating this every few years - They're all in year order so like any other talkpage it's simply a case of trawling through and finding whatever you need to find, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 18:06, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Slight update - I've removed the table and replaced it with the standard talkpage header, Cheers, –Davey2010^Talk 18:23, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]