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{{blank}} recently had a TfD that led to it being redirected to {{uw-delete1}}. I wasn't aware of the TfD at the time - I just used the template and didn't see any need to look at the template page regularly.

I started a DRV, but am now posting here to facilitate wider discussion. As stated, the wording of {{uw-delete1}} is not suitable for the scenario whereby a user has blanked a page completely.

Ideally, what I would like to do is replace the current redirect at {{uw-blank1}} with a message for this scenario, based on the message we had at {{blank}}. I suppose it would be a matter of getting {{blank}} moved to {{uw-blank1}} (since it would essentially be the same message under a different name, and as such should preserve the history) and updating the template to the modern format. (These actions need not happen in this order.) Needless to say, we should have a corresponding message for {{uw-blank2}} as well. I guess {{uw-blank3}} and {{uw-blank4}} can remain as redirects.

What do people think to this idea? — Smjg (talk) 22:26, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I like the idea, tbh. I've felt the same way at times. Gatemansgc (talk) 03:57, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The template as presently written only covers CSD A1 (no context) or A3 (no content). Should we also include A7 (notability)? There is no criticality in deleting non-notable entries, but I often see A7 tags applied within 1 or 2 minutes of article creation? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:34, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What template are you talking about, {{uw-hasty}}? If so, consensus has not been established for that (1). — JJMC89 (T·C) 20:42, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The template relates to AfD, but the message invites the recipient to comment on the "proposed deletion", which is of course an entirely different process. Jellyman (talk) 10:05, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Which template are you referring to? Perhaps you meant to leave this message at that template's Talk page? DonIago (talk) 14:04, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, sorry – I didn't notice that the individual user warning templates' talk pages redirect here. I was referring to {{Uw-afd2}}. Jellyman (talk) 18:33, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think the key is that it's referring to a proposed deletion, not Proposed Deletion, but I take your point. "the article's entry on the Articles for deletion page" would seem to be the standard wording used elsewhere, but how you could dynamically link to it is beyond my sphere of knowledge. DonIago (talk) 20:38, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am wondering if the wording of the second sentence of {{Uw-nonfree}} needs to be tweaked a bit. It currently reads as "We always appreciate when users upload new images" which is fine if the only time this template was used had to do with new image uploads, but that's not really the case. Many (perhaps most?) non-free content use violations have to do with editors inappropriately adding previously uploaded files to articles. This is sort of covered in the third sentence of the template, but sentences two and three seem to be in conflict, at least it seems like that to me. Maybe it would be better to reword/combine the two sentences in a manner to eliminate any possible confusion. FWIW, I've come across editors who assume non-free files already uploaded by others are "automatically" OK for Wikipedia and use a sort of WP:NOBODYCOMPLAINED-type or WP:JUSTONE-type of argument to justify its use in other articles, which is not really how the WP:NFCCP is supposed to be applied. Obviously, this template won't eliminate all such problems, but tweaking it might better clarify things for some editors when it is added to their user talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:50, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove the line that reads {{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|notalk=yes}}; I find it potentially confusing and other editors may find it confusing as well; it makes it seem like the no talk part of the template is part of the actual template. Consider moving it into the documentation instead. UpsandDowns1234 (🗨) 06:00, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: It's in a noinclude section:

<noinclude>

{{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|notalk=yes}}

...

</noinclude>

- Cabayi (talk) 07:42, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that it is inside of <noinclude>...</noinclude>, it is just that when rendered, it can be found confusing. It belongs inside of the doc. UpsandDowns1234 (🗨) 15:14, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]