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The text "This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution." is rather contradictory: It is stating that you are breaking the law, yet that action is merely undesired. Can that be changed to "unacceptable" or "inappropriate" or something else to be a better choice of wording? Rgrds. --64.85.216.200 (talk) 05:26, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the spam1 bot default, I feel like i should update it to match the bot warnings of the future, today!

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia, atleast one or more of the external links you added do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed.

• Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used as a platform foradvertising or promotion, and doing so is contrary to the goals of this project.

• Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings.

• If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it.

Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you.Template:Z88

Think this one is better. DDreth ask me questions! 19:46, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that we have multiple templates for users who talk on article pages. In addition to uw-talkinarticle found on the list, we also have the uw-cia series (1 2 3 4) of templates. The only reference I can find to these is a talk page archive from 2007. Shouldn't we decide on one or the other and delete what we don't decide on? --71.199.125.210 (talk) 00:14, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I propose that the following text or something similar to it be added somewhere in the template:

• Note that this is not an automated process. Administrators will review your request carefully, so please do not submit botched unblock requests, as they will be declined.

This is because some people simply don't seem to get it (I'd link an example, but I'm afraid that could be a personal attack). This is a suggestion, not a request. Ginsuloft (talk) 13:26, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Given the way you described the problem, I think "frivolous", "inappropriate", "improper" or something would be better than "botched", because "botched" sounds like messing the template syntax up more than it does a bad reason. --71.199.125.210 (talk) 03:24, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, frivolous is what I meant and I agree with you. Spammers often submit requests that are doomed to be declined because they don't even counter the reason the block was issued, often repeatedly. It's always the spammers who do this, never vandals. This is just a guess but it may be sort of a learned helplessness they have acquired from spamming other sites, hoping that a bored/tired admin will just randomly accept their request so they can continue spamming. While this may be the case on some other sites, on Wikipedia it is obviously not possible because admins are selected by consensus and everyone can see your history and ask about any action you've done. Ginsuloft (talk) 14:57, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know the slightest way to go about requesting it, so I'm posting here. Is there a way to add an automated signature to the template for alerting people of a conflict of interest? The template in question is: {{subst:Uw-coi}}. It would just be fairly handy to have it automatically sign for you when posting it. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 11:14, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest I don't know if this is exactly what you meant, but I added a parameter sig=yes similar to Template:Uw-block. It only works when the template is substituted and the word "yes" can be replaced with any word, even "no", but "yes" is recommended for clarity. Ginsuloft (talk) 12:49, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I wondered was a talk page template for users who are being WP:POINTy, and although {{uw-point}} exists, it takes the odd standpoint of "your recent edit to the user page of another user could give an editor the impression that you are forcing your own point", which isn't really what WP:POINT is about. From the edit history it was created last July by a user "creating my first template", and has had no other edits since. Is it worth bringing this in line with WP:POINT? --McGeddon (talk) 13:02, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I updated the template to be more in line with WP:POINT. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 04:26, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think there should be a template for linking words in article body to external URLs instead of to other Wikipedia articles. I run into this frequently with new editors, and it is a violation of WP:ELPOINTS, which says that "External links should not normally be used in the body of an article. Instead, include appropriate external links in an "External links" section at the end of the article, and in the appropriate location within an infobox, if applicable." --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 02:51, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

{{uw-canvass}} reads: "It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on biased users' talk pages [...]". I would say it is not the contacted users that are biased, they are likely to simply have an opinion which is perfectly legitimate; but that it is the chosen set of users that is biased. In other words, the choice is biased (the contacting editor), not the users (the contacted editors). I changed it accordingly, but please improve, if possible. - Nabla (talk) 09:24, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Check out template:uw-unwelcome. No words should be minced in excoriating racist trolls and similar malefactors. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 17:55, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for alerting us to this, I'll be nominating it for deletion in a moment. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, that's pretty silly. It seems much more likely to feed them than frighten them. You'd be better off using the standard {{uw-vandalism4im}} warning or something similar. --Bongwarrior (talk) 18:07, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah – I'm afraid that, while evil and malicious could pass as reasonable inferences from behavior, "malodorous" is just WP:NPA. No way to know that over the 'net (yet) —[AlanM1(talk)]— 18:07, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 July 22. And David, this is the second time in a few days I have seen you do something aimed at "evil," the other being your attempt to ban all usernames that even theoretically contain a reference to Satan. You might want to rethink your approach to such issues. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:11, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have only come to read more about templates because of a user who left a threatening message on my Talk page last week.

First, shouldn't there be a progression from a 1st warning, 2nd warning...last warning, block/ban? I've looked at dozens of other users' Talk pages and frequently, there is only a "final warning" given (often with no explanation) and this seems unfair and drastic. It's also not unusual to see these warnings given by another user in an editing dispute. Are these templates really meant to be used at weapons to post on the pages of people we disagree with?

Also, I don't think that severe warnings ("do X again and you WILL be banned/blocked") should be posted by anyone other than an Admin. I mean, I'm just a user...what right do I have to tell another editor that if do another particular act, it will lead to a block or a ban? That's an idle threat and could be construed as intimidation or harassment. But I've seen some trigger-happy, template posters who lay on these ultimatums with the slightest provocation.

Shouldn't there be guidelines on who is allowed to post the highest level of warning and also that an earlier warning must be given (and explained) before a fellow editor is threatened with a ban? If this exists already, please point me in the right direction because I see more instances where template messages are used incorrectly (as blunt instruments) than where they are used appropriately. 69.125.134.86 (talk) 13:15, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Generally the progression is 1-2-3-4, yes. But experienced editors may choose to skip a level or two (or give an only warning) based on the situation - Wikipedia is not some rigid bureaucracy. And don't forget earlier warnings could have been deleted. If an editor is abusing templates the best thing is to bring it up with them and then go to WP:ANI if the behaviour doesn't change. As to your other point, I looked at a few templates and they all say "may be blocked". What template says "will be blocked"? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:59, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We now have a test page for Visual Editor users: User:Sandbox. Can we come up with appropriate wording to direct VE editors to this page? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:03, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]