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Hallo, I've had a problem with {{uw-vandalism1}} a couple of times because the wording is "Hello, I'm xxx. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions because it did not appear constructive. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks!"

Sometimes I add the template to a user talk page after someone else has spotted and reverted the vandalism but hasn't added a message.

I see that {{uw-test1}} has passive, more versatile, wording: "Hello, I'm xxx. An edit that you recently made seemed to be a test and has been removed. If you want more practice editing, the sandbox is the best place to do so. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you."

Could we have {{uw-vandalism1}} modified to read something like: "Hello, I'm xxx. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions has been undone because it did not appear constructive. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks!"

Any thoughts? PamD 15:32, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is also {{uw-vandalism0}} which replicates the completely passive voice of the old versions of uw-vandalism1. You can also skip to level 2, which uses the passive voice. The reason we suggested not using that kind of passive message in the RFC that lead to the current version is because A) the most common use case by far is warning someone you reverted B) brand new or anonymous editors don't understand how reverting really works. When you say "has been undone" they don't necessarily understand that you mean another (human) editor, as opposed to some kind of automated system. It's more effective with both good and bad faith editors to introduce them to the idea that people like you are paying attention and reverting bad edits. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 20:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have just discovered a bug (feature?) in the {{uw-advert}} template (which I presume is a common bug/feature in all of the uw-xxx templates). If the original warner forgets to subst the template, then the name in the warning ("Hello, I'm <name>...") changes whenever a different editor posts a message after the original warning. Thus, if user A warns user B, and then user C comes along and makes a completely unrelated post on user B's page, the template will be now read "Hello, I'm C..." when it should read "Hello, I'm A". I don't know if the subst bot is smart enough to fix this error by examining the page history and replacing the correct name, or if will just leave whatever name happens to be there by the time the bot updates the page, but in either case, even a temporary misattribution seems to be a bad bug. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:36, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this is because it uses the {{REVISIONUSER}} variable, which indicates the editor at last edit. If you subst: the user warning template (as all of them should be), the {{REVISIONUSER}} gets substituted as well, so the name is fixed. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:51, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thinking of editing the templatesnotice usage at {{Bv}}(Blatant vandalism):

{{Templatesnotice|series = uw-vandalism|max = 4im|s1 = uw-v4im|s2 = uw-vand4im|s3 = uw-vandal4im}}

replacing the above with the following:

{{Templatesnotice|series = uw-vandalism|max = 4im|s1 = Bv|s2 = uw-v4im|s3 = uw-vand4im|s4 = uw-vandal4im}}

OTOH, this is heavily used and the current usage doesn't seem to follow the documentation so I thought I'd ask for feedback. These exist: {{Uw-vandalism0}} {{Uw-vandalism1}} {{Uw-vandalism2}} {{Uw-vandalism3}} {{Uw-vandalism4}}. So why not something like this?:

{{Templatesnotice|series = uw-vandalism|max = 4im|s1 = Bv|s2 = uw-vandalism0|s3 = uw-vandalism1|s4 = uw-vandal2|s5 = uw-vandalism3|s6 = uw-vandal4im}}

--Elvey (talk) 05:17, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In Template:Uw-3rr, I have changed "Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing" to "Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing". In this sentence, "being" is a gerund, properly preceded by a possessive. Being, not you, is the object of the first part of the sentence. For examples and discussion of how this principle works, please see this link, this link, or this one. Hertz1888 (talk) 20:02, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, interesting, but clearly we should simplify the language to prevent the current ping-ponging. Any suggestion of how we make:

• Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. more based on
• Users who engage in edit wars risk being blocked or even banned or
• Editors who engage in edit warring are liable to be blocked from editing to prevent further disruption ?

Also, it helps to say it's the {{Uw-3rr}} per the talk page banner and edit page notice (end of gripe). Widefox; talk 23:56, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The "ping-ponging" you mention has been brought on by only two editors apparently unaware of the proper grammar. If the question comes up again this section of discussion can be referenced. Isn't it ironic that there should be a mini-edit war over a word in an edit war warning. Hertz1888 (talk) 08:03, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

oops, wrong paste...fixed...how about:

• Edit warring can result in being blocked from editing ? Widefox; talk 08:23, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Or a combination of your first two examples: Users who engage in edit warring risk being blocked or banned from editing to prevent further disruption. Hertz1888 (talk) 08:44, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]