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== [[Template:uw-spamublock]] ==
== Uw-afcaddition vs. Uw-draftmoved ==


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What is the functional difference between {{tl|Uw-draftmoved}} from 2015 that [[WP:DRAFTIFY]] makes use of, and {{tl|Uw-afcaddition}} from 2016? {{pinggroup|Courtesy ping|Anarchyte|Mr. Stradivarius}}, '''[[User:Sam Sailor|Sam]] [[User talk:Sam Sailor|Sailor]]''' 07:37, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
your account has been used for advertising or promotion -> it has been used for advertising or promotion
:{{ping|Sam Sailor}} {{tl|Uw-draftmoved}} is to tell someone who submitted their draft with an AfC tag in the wrong namespace that it has been moved to "Draft:Name". {{tl|uw-afcaddition}} is to tell users that their draft has been added to the AfC procedure by someone else as they believe it'd help them (new users making their first articles, etc). <b style="font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Anarchyte|<span style="color:#18a">Anarchyte</span>]] <small>([[Special:Contribs/Anarchyte|<span style="color:#0d5fad">work</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:Anarchyte|<span style="color:#0d5fad">talk</span>]])</small></b> 07:43, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
::Cool, thanks! '''[[User:Sam Sailor|Sam]] [[User talk:Sam Sailor|Sailor]]''' 07:51, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
::{{re|Anarchyte}} I've had a look at the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3ATemplate%3Auw-afcaddition&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%22namespaces%22%3A%5B0%2C1%2C3%2C4%2C5%5D%7D&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&searchToken=4afkbjro101gmj5dr1yw4aevu nine] instances I could find of Uw-afcaddition insource. All those drafts are now redlinked. Could you clarify when Uw-afcaddition is used? Is it when you find a draft in ns:118 that is missing {{tl|AFC submission}} and you add it with appropriate {{para|ts}} and {{para|u}} or what? Thanks, '''[[User:Sam Sailor|Sam]] [[User talk:Sam Sailor|Sailor]]''' 08:09, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Sam Sailor}} Not sure what "ns:118" means. The template is used when a draft made by someone else (usually a new user) has {{tl|AFC submission/draft}} added to it by someone other than the creator, if that makes sense. When I used to use it, I added it after an unfinished article made by a really new user had been moved from mainspace to draftspace when I it's best that they receive feedback. You can see the original discussion [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/2016_1#New_template_idea|here]]. Cheers, <b style="font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Anarchyte|<span style="color:#18a">Anarchyte</span>]] <small>([[Special:Contribs/Anarchyte|<span style="color:#0d5fad">work</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:Anarchyte|<span style="color:#0d5fad">talk</span>]])</small></b> 08:19, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
::::{{re|Anarchyte}}Thanks for the clarification, I did read the 2016 discussion. Ns:118 = draft space. So, Uw-afcaddition is the ut notification after you have manually done what [[User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js]] does semi-automatically, is that correct? '''[[User:Sam Sailor|Sam]] [[User talk:Sam Sailor|Sailor]]''' 08:26, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Sam Sailor}} Yes. <b style="font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Anarchyte|<span style="color:#18a">Anarchyte</span>]] <small>([[Special:Contribs/Anarchyte|<span style="color:#0d5fad">work</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:Anarchyte|<span style="color:#0d5fad">talk</span>]])</small></b> 08:37, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::Thank you. '''[[User:Sam Sailor|Sam]] [[User talk:Sam Sailor|Sailor]]''' 08:40, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
{{od|::::::}}{{re|Anarchyte}} Right, but ... {{smiley}} then we have {{tl|Uw-articletodraft}}, and {{em|that}} sounds like the one to use when moving an undersourced article to draft space and manually leaving the new editor a notification. Which means {{tl|uw-afcaddition}} is for drafts in draft space where you add {{tlsp|AFC draft|''username of new editor''}} on behalf of the new editor or you fix a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&profile=advanced&search=%22subst%3Asubmit%22&fulltext=Search&ns118=1 subst:submit error] by addition of {{tlsp|submit|''username to submit as''}} and then you notify them with {{tl|uw-afcaddition}}, right? '''[[User:Sam Sailor|Sam]] [[User talk:Sam Sailor|Sailor]]''' 16:47, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|Sam Sailor}} Yup, I believe so. <b style="font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Anarchyte|<span style="color:#18a">Anarchyte</span>]] <small>([[Special:Contribs/Anarchyte|<span style="color:#0d5fad">work</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:Anarchyte|<span style="color:#0d5fad">talk</span>]])</small></b> 01:01, 8 July 2018 (UTC)


Minor nitpick to reduce repetition. <i><span style="font-family:Segoe print">[[User:Mori Calliope fan|<span style="background-color:black;color:#ffb8f3">Mori Calliope fan</span>]] [[User talk:Mori Calliope fan|<span style="background-color:#870900;color:#ffb8f3">talk</span>]]</span></i> 21:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
== Rather strange Draft UW template at AFC ==


:This seems to be a side effect of the changes made by {{u|Jpgordon}} in [[Special:Diff/1162488493]]. --[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</span>]]) 23:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
I have just declined [[Draft:Template:Uw-under13]] as there is no indication that such a template is wanted. The message (bizarrely imho) talk of reverting edits simply because the contributor is thought to be younger than 13 years. AFAIK WP has never had an age restriction for editors. If such a template were to be seriously suggested I would be inclined to strongly oppose its creation. If it were actually used it might well violate [[WP:OUTING]] and in fact lead to exactly the problems that [[WP:YOUNG]] warn about. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 21:33, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
::Good nitpick, fixed. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 00:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2024 ==
== Deprecating Uw-patrolled ==


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[[Template:Uw-patrolled]] is a template from before the [[WP:NPR|new pages reviewer]] user right, which prevents new editors from marking pages as patrolled. I would recommend that we remove this template from the project or reword it to advise users to apply for the right at [[WP:PERM]] (the former being preferred). --[[User:Danski454|Danski454]] ([[User talk:Danski454|talk]]) 17:21, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Please fix [[Template:Uw-mislead3]], it expands with a <code><nowiki><!-- Template:uw-move3 --></nowiki></code> comment instead of <code><nowiki><!-- Template:uw-mislead3 --></nowiki></code>.<br>
I just had this shocking moment where I warned someone with a level 4 move disruption warning because I copied it and thought 'oh no, I warned them for move disruption in the third warning too, how did I not see it' - but no, turns out it's just the comment that's been wrong since the template was made. &ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80C8:4701:9C49:A8E6:A25E:3091|2804:F14:80C8:4701:9C49:A8E6:A25E:3091]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:80C8:4701:9C49:A8E6:A25E:3091|talk]]) 03:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{Done}} -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 10:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


== Suggestion: Merge templates for removing XFD notices ==
== uw-subtle3 ==


Proposal: Merge AFD, RFD, TFD, CFD, FFD and MFD user warning templates into one. This would let editors use a centralized warnings list for deletion in general instead of having to go and carefully find the one for the appropriate XFD. If needed, we could add a parameter to disambiguate which.
I have created a level 3 template for subtle vandalism. [[User:Tornado chaser|Tornado chaser]] ([[User talk:Tornado chaser|talk]]) 19:34, 12 August 2018 (UTC)


Here's what the templates might look like:<br>
[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Please stop your [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptive editing]]. If you continue to change information on Wikipedia (such as numbers and dates) without explanation, as you did at [[:Article]], your edits will be considered [[WP:VD|vandalism]] and you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. <!-- Template:uw-disruptive3 -->
Uw-xfd1: <code> Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in deletion debates. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you.</code><br>
Uw-xfd2: <code> Please do not remove deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in deletion debates. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you.</code><br>
Uw-xfd3: <code> Please stop. If you continue to remove deletion notices or comments from deletion debates, you may be blocked from editing.</code><br>
Uw-xfd4: <code> You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove a deletion notice or a comment from a deletion debate.</code><br>
Uw-xfd4im: <code> This is your only warning; if you remove a deletion notice from a page or delete comments from a deletion debate again, you may be blocked from editing.</code><br>
Any suggestions welcome! <small>If you reply here, please ping me.</small> <span style="font-family:monospace; font-weight: bold"><span style="color:ForestGreen">[[W:EN:User:TheTechie|<span style="color:Green">thetechie@enwiki</span>]]</span>: [[User talk:TheTechie|<span style="MediumBlue">~/talk/</span>]] <span style="">$</span></span> 23:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

== Link the plain and simple COI guide? ==

A lot of newcomers on Wikipedia might not be familiar with all of our policies and feel lost in the wordings, maybe it would be good to link a more beginner-friendly guide such as [[Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide]] in {{tl|uw-coi}} and {{tl|uw-coi-username}} to gently nudge them towards more responsible editing? [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotıċ <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:30deg;color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 17:00, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

== Vector legacy ==

The template currently says: "you should be able to move an article yourself using the [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" tab]] at the top of the page (the tab may be [[:File:Vector hidden move button.png|hidden in a dropdown menu]] for you)." This seems to apply to the Vector Legacy skin, but not the current Vector 2022 skin. I think there are now two places "Move" can be: the Tools sidebar, or Tools menu, but I don't know which one appears by default. Depending on this, please can the template be reworded, maybe to something like:
* "you should be able to move an article yourself using the [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" action in the "Tools" menu]] at the top of the page (the "Tools" menu may be in a sidebar to the right of the page for you)."
or
* "you should be able to move an article yourself using the [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" action in the "Tools" sidebar]] to the right of the page (the "Tools" sidebar may be hidden as a menu at the top of the page for you)."
Might also need a sentence there saying something like "if you're using the Vector legacy skin, there should be a [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" tab]] at the top of the page (the tab may be [[:File:Vector hidden move button.png|hidden in a dropdown menu]])." (Is there a way to automatically detect which skin the user is using, and display text appropriate to that? This might be more difficult if this template has to be subst'ed.)

Updating [[Help:Moving a page]], and a replacement for [[:File:Vector hidden move button.png]] would be nice to have, but probably not worth waiting for to make this change.

Alternatively, is there a way to flag this up to the WMF team who implemented these changes to clean up? --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.15em 0.15em 0.1em">[[User:Yodin|Yodin]]</span><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.25em 0.25em 0.12em"><sup>[[User talk:Yodin|T]]</sup></span> 19:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 7#Template:Uw-cyberbully|Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 7 §&nbsp;Template:Uw-cyberbully]]==
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== Templates warning against frivolous XfD/PROD nominations and comments? ==

What is a good way to warn a user who makes a clearly inappropriate or disruptive XfD/PROD nomination, such as one without a valid reason for deletion? What about users who make disruptive comments at XfD that have nothing to do with the deletion policy? [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 02:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]], here's my recommendation: start by writing [[User:Xenon54/Don't template the newbies|a manual message]]: explain why their edits are disruptive, ask them to stop. If it's a new editor, try to [[WP:3LA|avoid jargon]]. If disruptive edits continue – revert. Then [[Template:Uw-disruptive1]] becomes appropriate, since it presupposes that the edits were reverted. —⁠[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 07:44, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
::A manual message seems good. The issue I have with existing templates is that XfD nominations and comments shouldn't be reverted like other edits just for being unconstructive (like saying an article "fails GNG" when it obviously doesn't). XfD nominations can be closed as [[Wikipedia:Speedy keep|speedy keep]] if there's no deletion rationale or they're obviously disruptive, but that's not exactly reversion and doesn't apply to all frivolous nominations. [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 08:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Revision as of 17:39, 18 May 2024

your account has been used for advertising or promotion -> it has been used for advertising or promotion

Minor nitpick to reduce repetition. Mori Calliope fan talk 21:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to be a side effect of the changes made by Jpgordon in Special:Diff/1162488493. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE
) 23:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good nitpick, fixed. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 00:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2024

Please fix Template:Uw-mislead3, it expands with a <!-- Template:uw-move3 --> comment instead of <!-- Template:uw-mislead3 -->.
I just had this shocking moment where I warned someone with a level 4 move disruption warning because I copied it and thought 'oh no, I warned them for move disruption in the third warning too, how did I not see it' - but no, turns out it's just the comment that's been wrong since the template was made. – 2804:F14:80C8:4701:9C49:A8E6:A25E:3091 (talk) 03:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done -- John of Reading (talk) 10:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion: Merge templates for removing XFD notices

Proposal: Merge AFD, RFD, TFD, CFD, FFD and MFD user warning templates into one. This would let editors use a centralized warnings list for deletion in general instead of having to go and carefully find the one for the appropriate XFD. If needed, we could add a parameter to disambiguate which.

Here's what the templates might look like:
Uw-xfd1: Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in deletion debates. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you.
Uw-xfd2: Please do not remove deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in deletion debates. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you.
Uw-xfd3: Please stop. If you continue to remove deletion notices or comments from deletion debates, you may be blocked from editing.
Uw-xfd4: You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove a deletion notice or a comment from a deletion debate.
Uw-xfd4im: This is your only warning; if you remove a deletion notice from a page or delete comments from a deletion debate again, you may be blocked from editing.
Any suggestions welcome! If you reply here, please ping me. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 23:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Link the plain and simple COI guide?

A lot of newcomers on Wikipedia might not be familiar with all of our policies and feel lost in the wordings, maybe it would be good to link a more beginner-friendly guide such as Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide in {{uw-coi}} and {{uw-coi-username}} to gently nudge them towards more responsible editing? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:00, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vector legacy

The template currently says: "you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you)." This seems to apply to the Vector Legacy skin, but not the current Vector 2022 skin. I think there are now two places "Move" can be: the Tools sidebar, or Tools menu, but I don't know which one appears by default. Depending on this, please can the template be reworded, maybe to something like:

  • "you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" action in the "Tools" menu at the top of the page (the "Tools" menu may be in a sidebar to the right of the page for you)."

or

  • "you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" action in the "Tools" sidebar to the right of the page (the "Tools" sidebar may be hidden as a menu at the top of the page for you)."

Might also need a sentence there saying something like "if you're using the Vector legacy skin, there should be a "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu)." (Is there a way to automatically detect which skin the user is using, and display text appropriate to that? This might be more difficult if this template has to be subst'ed.)

Updating Help:Moving a page, and a replacement for File:Vector hidden move button.png would be nice to have, but probably not worth waiting for to make this change.

Alternatively, is there a way to flag this up to the WMF team who implemented these changes to clean up? --YodinT 19:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 7 § Template:Uw-cyberbully. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 11:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Templates warning against frivolous XfD/PROD nominations and comments?

What is a good way to warn a user who makes a clearly inappropriate or disruptive XfD/PROD nomination, such as one without a valid reason for deletion? What about users who make disruptive comments at XfD that have nothing to do with the deletion policy? Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Helpful Raccoon, here's my recommendation: start by writing a manual message: explain why their edits are disruptive, ask them to stop. If it's a new editor, try to avoid jargon. If disruptive edits continue – revert. Then Template:Uw-disruptive1 becomes appropriate, since it presupposes that the edits were reverted. —⁠andrybak (talk) 07:44, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A manual message seems good. The issue I have with existing templates is that XfD nominations and comments shouldn't be reverted like other edits just for being unconstructive (like saying an article "fails GNG" when it obviously doesn't). XfD nominations can be closed as speedy keep if there's no deletion rationale or they're obviously disruptive, but that's not exactly reversion and doesn't apply to all frivolous nominations. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 08:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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