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== [[Template:uw-spamublock]] ==
== "you can leave me a message on my talk page" ==


{{edit template-protected|template:uw-spamublock|answered=yes}}
I'm not sure if this is the right place to discuss this. Here is a quote from a standard template: ''"or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page"''. My impression is that we usually want to encourage discussion about article improvements on that article's talk page. When patrolling changes and reverting a lot of edits, this calls for users to first post on the patroller's talk page instead, even if an article was supplied as parameter. Thanks, —&nbsp;[[User:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#44a;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Paleo</span>]][[User_talk:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#272;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Neonate</span>]]&nbsp;— 22:27, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
your account has been used for advertising or promotion -> it has been used for advertising or promotion
:After rechecking, these invitations only seem be part of the first-level templates. I guess that avoiding that level is appropriate in some circumstances, especially if a former welcome message was already issued; I understand that it can be helpful for new editors otherwise. —&nbsp;[[User:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#44a;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Paleo</span>]][[User_talk:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#272;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Neonate</span>]]&nbsp;— 20:04, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
:It may still be useful for level-2+ templates to more systematically invite discussion on the article's talk page (with an explicit link), especially for uw-pov... —&nbsp;[[User:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#44a;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Paleo</span>]][[User_talk:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#272;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Neonate</span>]]&nbsp;— 20:18, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
::Hi {{u|PaleoNeonate}}. This template language was tested against various alternatives some years ago, and I believe the general finding was that people were less likely to vandalize if they felt like they were talking to actual humans. As a practical matter, I've used these templates thousands of times, and I don't recall anyone actually responding on my talk page as a result of the template. That said, the testing was really only done on level 1 templates, so I think you may be right about level 2 etc.--<span style="font-family: Copperplate gothic">[[User:Mojo Hand|Mojo Hand]] ''([[User talk:Mojo Hand|talk]])''</span> 20:23, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
:::Quote: {{quote|You left me a message saying "If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page." so that's what I did.}}
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::::{{resolved|I now consider this resolved, I use level-2 and upwards where appropriate. It may still be an improvement to have those include the article talk page link along with the invitation to discuss. Level-1 (with the invitation to answer on the patroller's talk page) can still be useful for very new editors who may require help. Thanks, —[[User:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#44a;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Paleo</span>]][[User_talk:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#272;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Neonate</span>]] - 04:21, 11 June 2017 (UTC)}}


Minor nitpick to reduce repetition. <i><span style="font-family:Segoe print">[[User:Mori Calliope fan|<span style="background-color:black;color:#ffb8f3">Mori Calliope fan</span>]] [[User talk:Mori Calliope fan|<span style="background-color:#870900;color:#ffb8f3">talk</span>]]</span></i> 21:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
== Page blanking messages ==


:This seems to be a side effect of the changes made by {{u|Jpgordon}} in [[Special:Diff/1162488493]]. --[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</span>]]) 23:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
{{tl|blank}} recently had a TfD that led to it being redirected to {{tl|uw-delete1}}. I wasn't aware of the TfD at the time - I just used the template and didn't see any need to look at the template page regularly.
::Good nitpick, fixed. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 00:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2024 ==
I started a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2017 June 8|DRV]], but am now posting here to facilitate wider discussion. As stated, the wording of {{tl|uw-delete1}} is not suitable for the scenario whereby a user has blanked a page completely.


{{edit semi-protected|Template:Uw-mislead3|answered=yes}}
Ideally, what I would like to do is replace the current redirect at {{tl|uw-blank1}} with a message for this scenario, based on the message we had at {{tl|blank}}. I suppose it would be a matter of getting {{tl|blank}} moved to {{tl|uw-blank1}} (since it would essentially be the same message under a different name, and as such should preserve the history) and updating the template to the modern format. (These actions need not happen in this order.) Needless to say, we should have a corresponding message for {{tl|uw-blank2}} as well. I guess {{tl|uw-blank3}} and {{tl|uw-blank4}} can remain as redirects.
Please fix [[Template:Uw-mislead3]], it expands with a <code><nowiki><!-- Template:uw-move3 --></nowiki></code> comment instead of <code><nowiki><!-- Template:uw-mislead3 --></nowiki></code>.<br>
I just had this shocking moment where I warned someone with a level 4 move disruption warning because I copied it and thought 'oh no, I warned them for move disruption in the third warning too, how did I not see it' - but no, turns out it's just the comment that's been wrong since the template was made. &ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80C8:4701:9C49:A8E6:A25E:3091|2804:F14:80C8:4701:9C49:A8E6:A25E:3091]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:80C8:4701:9C49:A8E6:A25E:3091|talk]]) 03:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{Done}} -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 10:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


== Suggestion: Merge templates for removing XFD notices ==
What do people think to this idea? — [[User:Smjg|Smjg]] ([[User talk:Smjg|talk]]) 22:26, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
:I like the idea, tbh. I've felt the same way at times. <span style="text-shadow:green 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Gatemansgc|Gatemansgc]]</span> ([[User talk:Gatemansgc|talk]]) 03:57, 24 June 2017 (UTC)


Proposal: Merge AFD, RFD, TFD, CFD, FFD and MFD user warning templates into one. This would let editors use a centralized warnings list for deletion in general instead of having to go and carefully find the one for the appropriate XFD. If needed, we could add a parameter to disambiguate which.
== Arabic not English template is in Chinese ==


Here's what the templates might look like:<br>
Imagine my embarrassment. Maybe I can sift back and find it.[[User:Dlohcierekim|Dlohcierekim]] ([[User talk:Dlohcierekim|talk]]) 22:42, 13 June 2017 (UTC) {{done}}
Uw-xfd1: <code> Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in deletion debates. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you.</code><br>
Uw-xfd2: <code> Please do not remove deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in deletion debates. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you.</code><br>
Uw-xfd3: <code> Please stop. If you continue to remove deletion notices or comments from deletion debates, you may be blocked from editing.</code><br>
Uw-xfd4: <code> You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove a deletion notice or a comment from a deletion debate.</code><br>
Uw-xfd4im: <code> This is your only warning; if you remove a deletion notice from a page or delete comments from a deletion debate again, you may be blocked from editing.</code><br>
Any suggestions welcome! <small>If you reply here, please ping me.</small> <span style="font-family:monospace; font-weight: bold"><span style="color:ForestGreen">[[W:EN:User:TheTechie|<span style="color:Green">thetechie@enwiki</span>]]</span>: [[User talk:TheTechie|<span style="MediumBlue">~/talk/</span>]] <span style="">$</span></span> 23:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


== Link the plain and simple COI guide? ==
== Add A7? ==


A lot of newcomers on Wikipedia might not be familiar with all of our policies and feel lost in the wordings, maybe it would be good to link a more beginner-friendly guide such as [[Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide]] in {{tl|uw-coi}} and {{tl|uw-coi-username}} to gently nudge them towards more responsible editing? [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotıċ <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:30deg;color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 17:00, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
The template as presently written only covers CSD A1 (no context) or A3 (no content). Should we also include A7 (notability)? There is no criticality in deleting non-notable entries, but I often see A7 tags applied within 1 or 2 minutes of article creation? <font color="green">[[User:WikiDan61|WikiDan61]]</font><font color="green" size="5px"></font><sup>[[User talk:WikiDan61|ChatMe!]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/WikiDan61|ReadMe!!]]</sub> 13:34, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
: What template are you talking about, {{tl|uw-hasty}}? If so, consensus has not been established for that ([[Special:Diff/766837540|1]]). —&thinsp;[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]]&thinsp;<small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 20:42, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


== Better wording needed ==
== Vector legacy ==


The template currently says: "you should be able to move an article yourself using the [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" tab]] at the top of the page (the tab may be [[:File:Vector hidden move button.png|hidden in a dropdown menu]] for you)." This seems to apply to the Vector Legacy skin, but not the current Vector 2022 skin. I think there are now two places "Move" can be: the Tools sidebar, or Tools menu, but I don't know which one appears by default. Depending on this, please can the template be reworded, maybe to something like:
The template relates to AfD, but the message invites the recipient to comment on the "proposed deletion", which is of course an entirely different process. [[User:Jellyman|Jellyman]] ([[User talk:Jellyman|talk]]) 10:05, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
* "you should be able to move an article yourself using the [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" action in the "Tools" menu]] at the top of the page (the "Tools" menu may be in a sidebar to the right of the page for you)."
:Which template are you referring to? Perhaps you meant to leave this message at that template's Talk page? [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 14:04, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
or
::Ah, sorry – I didn't notice that the individual user warning templates' talk pages redirect here. I was referring to {{tl|Uw-afd2}}. [[User:Jellyman|Jellyman]] ([[User talk:Jellyman|talk]]) 18:33, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
* "you should be able to move an article yourself using the [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" action in the "Tools" sidebar]] to the right of the page (the "Tools" sidebar may be hidden as a menu at the top of the page for you)."
:::Well, I think the key is that it's referring to a proposed deletion, not Proposed Deletion, but I take your point. "the article's entry on the Articles for deletion page" would seem to be the standard wording used elsewhere, but how you could dynamically link to it is beyond my sphere of knowledge. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 20:38, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Might also need a sentence there saying something like "if you're using the Vector legacy skin, there should be a [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" tab]] at the top of the page (the tab may be [[:File:Vector hidden move button.png|hidden in a dropdown menu]])." (Is there a way to automatically detect which skin the user is using, and display text appropriate to that? This might be more difficult if this template has to be subst'ed.)


Updating [[Help:Moving a page]], and a replacement for [[:File:Vector hidden move button.png]] would be nice to have, but probably not worth waiting for to make this change.
== Tweak wording of [[:Template:Uw-nonfree]] ==


Alternatively, is there a way to flag this up to the WMF team who implemented these changes to clean up? --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.15em 0.15em 0.1em">[[User:Yodin|Yodin]]</span><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.25em 0.25em 0.12em"><sup>[[User talk:Yodin|T]]</sup></span> 19:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
I am wondering if the wording of the second sentence of {{tl|Uw-nonfree}} needs to be tweaked a bit. It currently reads as "We always appreciate when users upload new images" which is fine if the only time this template was used had to do with new image uploads, but that's not really the case. Many (perhaps most?) non-free content use violations have to do with editors inappropriately adding previously uploaded files to articles. This is sort of covered in the third sentence of the template, but sentences two and three seem to be in conflict, at least it seems like that to me. Maybe it would be better to reword/combine the two sentences in a manner to eliminate any possible confusion. FWIW, I've come across editors who assume non-free files already uploaded by others are "automatically" OK for Wikipedia and use a sort of [[:WP:NOBODYCOMPLAINED]]-type or [[:WP:JUSTONE]]-type of argument to justify its use in other articles, which is not really how the [[:WP:NFCCP]] is supposed to be applied. Obviously, this template won't eliminate all such problems, but tweaking it might better clarify things for some editors when it is added to their user talk page. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 21:50, 26 June 2017 (UTC)


==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 7#Template:Uw-cyberbully|Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 7 §&nbsp;Template:Uw-cyberbully]]==
== Template-protected edit request on 7 July 2017 Suggestion ==
[[File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg|25px|link=|alt=]]&nbsp;You are invited to join the discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 7#Template:Uw-cyberbully|Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 7 §&nbsp;Template:Uw-cyberbully]]. &#x0020;All the best, <span style="color:#595959">&zwj;—&zwj;</span>[[User:A smart kitten|<span style="color:#595959">a&nbsp;smart kitten</span>]]<sub style="color:#595959">[<nowiki/>[[User talk:A smart kitten|<span style="color:#595959">meow</span>]]]</sub> 11:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)<!-- [[Template:Please see]] -->


== Templates warning against frivolous XfD/PROD nominations and comments? ==
{{edit template-protected|Template:Uw-spamublock|answered=y}}
Please remove the line that reads <code><nowiki>{{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|notalk=yes}}</nowiki></code>; I find it potentially confusing and other editors may find it confusing as well; it makes it seem like the no talk part of the template is part of the actual template. Consider moving it into the documentation instead. [[User:UpsandDowns1234|<span style="font-family: sans-serif;"><span style="color:green;">Ups</span>and<span style="color:red;">Downs</span>1234</span>]] ([[User talk:UpsandDowns1234|🗨]]) 06:00, 7 July 2017 (UTC)


What is a good way to warn a user who makes a clearly inappropriate or disruptive XfD/PROD nomination, such as one without a valid reason for deletion? What about users who make disruptive comments at XfD that have nothing to do with the deletion policy? [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 02:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ETp --> It's in a noinclude section:
:::<code><nowiki><noinclude></nowiki></code>
:::<code><nowiki>{{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|notalk=yes}}</nowiki></code>
:::<code><nowiki>...</nowiki></code>
:::<code><nowiki></noinclude></nowiki></code>
: - [[User:Cabayi|Cabayi]] ([[User talk:Cabayi|talk]]) 07:42, 7 July 2017 (UTC)


:@[[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]], here's my recommendation: start by writing [[User:Xenon54/Don't template the newbies|a manual message]]: explain why their edits are disruptive, ask them to stop. If it's a new editor, try to [[WP:3LA|avoid jargon]]. If disruptive edits continue – revert. Then [[Template:Uw-disruptive1]] becomes appropriate, since it presupposes that the edits were reverted. —⁠[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 07:44, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
::I understand that it is inside of <code><nowiki><noinclude>...</noinclude></nowiki></code>, it is just that when rendered, it can be found confusing. It belongs inside of the doc. [[User:UpsandDowns1234|<span style="font-family: sans-serif;"><span style="color:green;">Ups</span>and<span style="color:red;">Downs</span>1234</span>]] ([[User talk:UpsandDowns1234|🗨]]) 15:14, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
::A manual message seems good. The issue I have with existing templates is that XfD nominations and comments shouldn't be reverted like other edits just for being unconstructive (like saying an article "fails GNG" when it obviously doesn't). XfD nominations can be closed as [[Wikipedia:Speedy keep|speedy keep]] if there's no deletion rationale or they're obviously disruptive, but that's not exactly reversion and doesn't apply to all frivolous nominations. [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 08:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Revision as of 17:39, 18 May 2024

your account has been used for advertising or promotion -> it has been used for advertising or promotion

Minor nitpick to reduce repetition. Mori Calliope fan talk 21:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to be a side effect of the changes made by Jpgordon in Special:Diff/1162488493. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE
) 23:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good nitpick, fixed. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 00:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2024

Please fix Template:Uw-mislead3, it expands with a <!-- Template:uw-move3 --> comment instead of <!-- Template:uw-mislead3 -->.
I just had this shocking moment where I warned someone with a level 4 move disruption warning because I copied it and thought 'oh no, I warned them for move disruption in the third warning too, how did I not see it' - but no, turns out it's just the comment that's been wrong since the template was made. – 2804:F14:80C8:4701:9C49:A8E6:A25E:3091 (talk) 03:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done -- John of Reading (talk) 10:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion: Merge templates for removing XFD notices

Proposal: Merge AFD, RFD, TFD, CFD, FFD and MFD user warning templates into one. This would let editors use a centralized warnings list for deletion in general instead of having to go and carefully find the one for the appropriate XFD. If needed, we could add a parameter to disambiguate which.

Here's what the templates might look like:
Uw-xfd1: Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in deletion debates. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you.
Uw-xfd2: Please do not remove deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in deletion debates. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you.
Uw-xfd3: Please stop. If you continue to remove deletion notices or comments from deletion debates, you may be blocked from editing.
Uw-xfd4: You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove a deletion notice or a comment from a deletion debate.
Uw-xfd4im: This is your only warning; if you remove a deletion notice from a page or delete comments from a deletion debate again, you may be blocked from editing.
Any suggestions welcome! If you reply here, please ping me. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 23:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Link the plain and simple COI guide?

A lot of newcomers on Wikipedia might not be familiar with all of our policies and feel lost in the wordings, maybe it would be good to link a more beginner-friendly guide such as Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide in {{uw-coi}} and {{uw-coi-username}} to gently nudge them towards more responsible editing? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:00, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vector legacy

The template currently says: "you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you)." This seems to apply to the Vector Legacy skin, but not the current Vector 2022 skin. I think there are now two places "Move" can be: the Tools sidebar, or Tools menu, but I don't know which one appears by default. Depending on this, please can the template be reworded, maybe to something like:

  • "you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" action in the "Tools" menu at the top of the page (the "Tools" menu may be in a sidebar to the right of the page for you)."

or

  • "you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" action in the "Tools" sidebar to the right of the page (the "Tools" sidebar may be hidden as a menu at the top of the page for you)."

Might also need a sentence there saying something like "if you're using the Vector legacy skin, there should be a "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu)." (Is there a way to automatically detect which skin the user is using, and display text appropriate to that? This might be more difficult if this template has to be subst'ed.)

Updating Help:Moving a page, and a replacement for File:Vector hidden move button.png would be nice to have, but probably not worth waiting for to make this change.

Alternatively, is there a way to flag this up to the WMF team who implemented these changes to clean up? --YodinT 19:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Templates warning against frivolous XfD/PROD nominations and comments?

What is a good way to warn a user who makes a clearly inappropriate or disruptive XfD/PROD nomination, such as one without a valid reason for deletion? What about users who make disruptive comments at XfD that have nothing to do with the deletion policy? Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Helpful Raccoon, here's my recommendation: start by writing a manual message: explain why their edits are disruptive, ask them to stop. If it's a new editor, try to avoid jargon. If disruptive edits continue – revert. Then Template:Uw-disruptive1 becomes appropriate, since it presupposes that the edits were reverted. —⁠andrybak (talk) 07:44, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A manual message seems good. The issue I have with existing templates is that XfD nominations and comments shouldn't be reverted like other edits just for being unconstructive (like saying an article "fails GNG" when it obviously doesn't). XfD nominations can be closed as speedy keep if there's no deletion rationale or they're obviously disruptive, but that's not exactly reversion and doesn't apply to all frivolous nominations. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 08:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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