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== [[Template:uw-spamublock]] ==
== Adding a "harassment directed to X" to Uw-harass ==

Hi, I am proposing to add an "as you did at x '''to user'''" in the templates uw-harass 1 through 4/4im. This will clearly tell the user who harassed others who was the victim. --[[User:Fazbear7891|Fazbear7891]] ([[User talk:Fazbear7891|talk]]) 00:17, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Please stop your disruptive behaviour. Your behaviour is verging on [[Wikipedia:Harassment|harassment]]. Wikipedia prides itself on providing a safe environment for its collaborators, and harassing other users, as you did on [[:Foobar]] <u>'''to [[User:UBX|UBX]]'''</u>, potentially compromises that safe environment. If you continue behaving like this, you may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]'''. <!-- Template:uw-harass3 -->

[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=Stop icon]] You may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]] without further warning''' the next time you purposefully and blatantly [[Wikipedia:Harassment|harass]] a fellow Wikipedian, as you did at [[:Foobar]] <u>'''to [[User:UBX|UBX]].'''</u> <!-- Template:uw-harass4 -->


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:That can't be done because the warnings then would need '''3''' parameters, on Wikipedia user warnings have only '''2''' parameters. Adding an extra parameter could potentially break the way Twinkle posts these warnings. You may however notify users at [[Wikipedia talk:Twinkle]] of this change. --[[User:ToonLucas22|<b style= "color:red">T</b><b style= "color:#FF4200">L</b><b style= "color:#FF7400">2</b><b style= "color:#FFA700">2</b>]] <small>([[User talk:ToonLucas22|<i style= "color:green">talk</i>]])</small> 11:47, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
your account has been used for advertising or promotion -> it has been used for advertising or promotion


Minor nitpick to reduce repetition. <i><span style="font-family:Segoe print">[[User:Mori Calliope fan|<span style="background-color:black;color:#ffb8f3">Mori Calliope fan</span>]] [[User talk:Mori Calliope fan|<span style="background-color:#870900;color:#ffb8f3">talk</span>]]</span></i> 21:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
::I would oppose on [[WP:BEANS]] grounds, anyway. All this would do is focus attention on the harassment victim, and increase the likelihood of sneaky vengeful actions against that party. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 20:34, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


:This seems to be a side effect of the changes made by {{u|Jpgordon}} in [[Special:Diff/1162488493]]. --[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</span>]]) 23:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
== "If...you may..." needs to be "If...you might..." (because of its conditional clause). ==
::Good nitpick, fixed. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 00:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2024 ==
As for all templates, I have noticed that all templates of levels 3 and 5 use a conditional clause which says "If you [do this again], you may be blocked from editing.". I feel that it is incorrect because these sentences are conditional, so we need to use the past tense form of ''might'' instead, rather than ''may''. This in a conditional clause "would" (not ''will'') actually be more correct ''if'' we had done that upon agreeing this. [[User:Gamingforfun365|Gamingforfun365]] ([[User talk:Gamingforfun365|talk]]) 08:18, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
:This is similar to legal language where possible (but not guaranteed) penalties are set. E.g. <i>"Persons who commit the crime of XYZ </i><b>may</b><i> be imprisoned for a term not to exceed..."</i> etc. A quick online search of several dictionaries each indicate that the word "may" is sometimes used to indicate possibility, and the word "might" is given as a synonym for this usage. In other words, I'm not sure this is needed, but I'm neutral to the idea. <span style="background:#1e1e1e;border:solid 1px;border-radius:8px;"> <b> [[User:Etamni|<span style="color:#ceff00;">&nbsp;Etamni&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;</span>]][[User Talk:Etamni|<span style="color:#ceff00;">&#9993;&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 06:57, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
::Agreed with Etamni. Neither usage is wrong, and there are other contextually synonymous constructions ("might be", "could be", etc.). I oppose changing this, because "may" is the most concise possible way to say it, and it's adequate. There is nothing ambiguous about the construction (though there can be for some other uses of "may": "You may laugh" means both "it is permissible for you to laugh" and "you could end up laughing"). <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 20:27, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


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== AfC warning template ==
Please fix [[Template:Uw-mislead3]], it expands with a <code><nowiki><!-- Template:uw-move3 --></nowiki></code> comment instead of <code><nowiki><!-- Template:uw-mislead3 --></nowiki></code>.<br>
I just had this shocking moment where I warned someone with a level 4 move disruption warning because I copied it and thought 'oh no, I warned them for move disruption in the third warning too, how did I not see it' - but no, turns out it's just the comment that's been wrong since the template was made. &ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80C8:4701:9C49:A8E6:A25E:3091|2804:F14:80C8:4701:9C49:A8E6:A25E:3091]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:80C8:4701:9C49:A8E6:A25E:3091|talk]]) 03:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{Done}} -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 10:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


== Suggestion: Merge templates for removing XFD notices ==
I am recommending with the blessing of a couple other people [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#Creation_of_a_warning_template_idea.|here]] that a warning template be created for people who resubmit articles for creation multiple times without improvement. The issue of re-submission creates a even more chaotic backlog than already exists. Please let me know of any way I can help. Thanks. [[User:Sulfurboy|Sulfurboy]] ([[User talk:Sulfurboy|talk]]) 19:45, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
:If they've already ignored the warnings right next to the "Resubmit" button, they're not likely to pay attention to a template message. I've had better results leaving a short personalized note and, in the worst cases, add {{para|small|yes}} to the {{tlx|AFC submission|d|}} template to hide the resubmit button to remove temptation. --[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;"><b>TALK<br />PAGE</b></span>]]) 15:08, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


Proposal: Merge AFD, RFD, TFD, CFD, FFD and MFD user warning templates into one. This would let editors use a centralized warnings list for deletion in general instead of having to go and carefully find the one for the appropriate XFD. If needed, we could add a parameter to disambiguate which.
== [[Template:Uw-English]] ==


Here's what the templates might look like:<br>
Please see [[WP:VP/Pr]] in the "template:uw-english" section; I've proposed that it be either deprecated or greatly reformatted. [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 17:54, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Uw-xfd1: <code> Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in deletion debates. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you.</code><br>
Uw-xfd2: <code> Please do not remove deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in deletion debates. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you.</code><br>
Uw-xfd3: <code> Please stop. If you continue to remove deletion notices or comments from deletion debates, you may be blocked from editing.</code><br>
Uw-xfd4: <code> You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove a deletion notice or a comment from a deletion debate.</code><br>
Uw-xfd4im: <code> This is your only warning; if you remove a deletion notice from a page or delete comments from a deletion debate again, you may be blocked from editing.</code><br>
Any suggestions welcome! <small>If you reply here, please ping me.</small> <span style="font-family:monospace; font-weight: bold"><span style="color:ForestGreen">[[W:EN:User:TheTechie|<span style="color:Green">thetechie@enwiki</span>]]</span>: [[User talk:TheTechie|<span style="MediumBlue">~/talk/</span>]] <span style="">$</span></span> 23:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


== Link the plain and simple COI guide? ==
===[[Template:Uw-English]] and burden of translation===


A lot of newcomers on Wikipedia might not be familiar with all of our policies and feel lost in the wordings, maybe it would be good to link a more beginner-friendly guide such as [[Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide]] in {{tl|uw-coi}} and {{tl|uw-coi-username}} to gently nudge them towards more responsible editing? [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotıċ <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:30deg;color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 17:00, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
This template needs to get the point across that machine translation is available (maybe even link directly to Google Translate or something) and that the burden of doing the translation is on the non-English speaker, not on all of the site's English speakers. Right now this template has kind of a "get off en.wiki" tone to it, and this is unproductive. We should be helping users understand how to participate, not telling them they can't. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 20:29, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|SMcCandlish}} Google translate is literally worse than nothing. It would be much better to preserve the foreign text so that a human fluent in the language can translate it than replace it with the garbled ambiguous mess left behind by machine translation (this isn't just my opinion, it's codified at [[WP:MACHINETRANSLATION]]). --[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;"><b>TALK<br />PAGE</b></span>]]) 14:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::WP:MACHINETRANSLATION is about translating articles. Machine translations (I mentioned Google's because it's familiar not because I think it's superior) are generally good enough to get the point across in talk page posts. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 16:06, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:Please don't divide discussions. This is being discussed at [[WP:VP/Pr]] as indicated above. No need to double post here.[[User:LeadSongDog|LeadSongDog]] <small>[[User talk:LeadSongDog#top|<font color="red" face="Papyrus">come howl!</font>]]</small> 16:31, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


== Vector legacy ==
== Block messages for anon editors ==


The template currently says: "you should be able to move an article yourself using the [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" tab]] at the top of the page (the tab may be [[:File:Vector hidden move button.png|hidden in a dropdown menu]] for you)." This seems to apply to the Vector Legacy skin, but not the current Vector 2022 skin. I think there are now two places "Move" can be: the Tools sidebar, or Tools menu, but I don't know which one appears by default. Depending on this, please can the template be reworded, maybe to something like:
Please see [[Wikipedia_talk:Blocking_policy#Ambiguous_phrasing]]. Why are we encouraging blocked editors to essentially sock? Example: "If you have a registered Wikipedia username, you may log in and continue to edit" --[[User:NeilN|<b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:NeilN|<i style="color:blue">talk to me</i>]]</sup> 16:47, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
* "you should be able to move an article yourself using the [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" action in the "Tools" menu]] at the top of the page (the "Tools" menu may be in a sidebar to the right of the page for you)."
or
* "you should be able to move an article yourself using the [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" action in the "Tools" sidebar]] to the right of the page (the "Tools" sidebar may be hidden as a menu at the top of the page for you)."
Might also need a sentence there saying something like "if you're using the Vector legacy skin, there should be a [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" tab]] at the top of the page (the tab may be [[:File:Vector hidden move button.png|hidden in a dropdown menu]])." (Is there a way to automatically detect which skin the user is using, and display text appropriate to that? This might be more difficult if this template has to be subst'ed.)


Updating [[Help:Moving a page]], and a replacement for [[:File:Vector hidden move button.png]] would be nice to have, but probably not worth waiting for to make this change.
*Agreed. That message directly contradicts our blocking policy, which has always been understood to mean that the block is on the person behind the edits, regardless of what identity they use. This needs to be rectified. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 17:18, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
*Also agree, we should reword the template when the <tt>anon=yes</tt> parameter is passed to make it clear the offending user is not allowed to edit, account or not (at least until the block expires?). I think the wording should still be made clear that uninvolved registered users can continue to edit. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">&mdash; <span style="font-weight:bold">[[User:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</sup></span></span> 17:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
*:To clarify my point, the block message should not read "You have been blocked for..." as this is reserved for accounts, or for when you as the admin have established the IP as static and used by a single user. In the latter case, you should perform a [[WP:HARDBLOCK|hard block]] ("Prevent logged-in users from editing from this IP address") which when using Twinkle the <tt>anon=yes</tt> parameter will be omitted. If we are performing a soft block the template wording should not imply otherwise. Obviously the idea is to let uninvolved editors who have accounts know that they can continue to edit. This could even be done like we do with the warnings, where there is italicized text below the template that would read something like ''"If this is shared IP address and you are an uninvolved editor with a registered account, you may continue to edit by logging in"''. Also, mind you with default options account creation will be disabled for up to 24 hours when blocking IPs, as a measure to prevent block evasion. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">&mdash; <span style="font-weight:bold">[[User:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</sup></span></span> 18:02, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
:Can I bring up a different but related concern? I see <nowiki>{{ uw-ublock }}</nowiki> on talk pages and one of the recommendations offered to blocked editors is to create a new account with a different, appropriate username. I can't locate a diff right now but I've seen at least one editor with this notice create a new account and then get accused of block evasion because their previous account was blocked. Because it was a new editor, they aren't going to complain, they will just stop editing. I would think that admins would recognize when it is a username block so that new accounts, which are suggested, aren't mistaken for socks or for block evasion. <font face="Papyrus" size="4" color="#800080">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</font></sup> 19:57, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
::Who was doing the accusing? If I'm looking at a block evasion accusation I always check what the original block was for. If it was a soft username block then I tell the accuser the new account is kosher. If it was for username+editing, then I look to see if the new account has the same type of edits. --[[User:NeilN|<b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:NeilN|<i style="color:blue">talk to me</i>]]</sup> 20:24, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Well, [[User:NeilN|NeilN]], I think that action is what most admins would do. If I see it again though, I'll bring it up with either the admin who imposed the block or bring it to your attention. I remember only noticing it because the instructions in the template directly tell the editor that they should create a new account which is unusual advice to give a blocked editor. <font face="Papyrus" size="4" color="#800080">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</font></sup> 21:57, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Liz}} The softblock username block messages all contain similar instructions to create a new account. --[[User:NeilN|<b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:NeilN|<i style="color:blue">talk to me</i>]]</sup> 23:15, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::...because the default assumption is that they created the account not knowing the policy, and they are not being disruptive. If they are then some other type of block (and message) is obviously required. <span style="color:red; font-size: smaller; font-weight: bold;">§[[User:FreeRangeFrog|<span style="color:#00CA00">FreeRangeFrog</span>]]</span><sup>[[User talk:FreeRangeFrog|croak]]</sup> 02:29, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
*'''Agreed''' I came here explicitly because of {{tlx|uw-ewblock}} and was surprised to find that language being used: it's basically a welcome mat to sock and isn't at all reflective of the various flags being used in blocking scenarios. Templates used for anon blocks where the implication is that the user can freely edit if they have an account can be counted on one hand (e.g., {{tlx|schoolblock}}, {{tlx|anonblock}}, and in rare instances {{tlx|uw-vblock}}). While it's true most of our blocks of IPs are anon-only by default, we typically don't explicitly advertise the fact. --[[User:Slakr|<span style="color:teal;font-weight:bold;">slakr</span>]]<small><sup>\&nbsp;[[User talk:Slakr|talk]]&nbsp;/</sup></small> 02:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
*:It's still unclear to me what we're trying to change. When you say "we don't typically advertise" that it's anon-only, I'm lead to believe that that's simply because the old Twinkle Warn module didn't use the <tt>anon=yes</tt> parameter. When I built the Twinkle block module, I passed in this param to the block templates for anon-only blocks, as it appears that is how the templates were designed and intended to be used. Obviously, it was not well thought out that the ''If you have a registered Wikipedia username, you may log in and continue to edit'' wording could have an adverse effect. So the question remains, are we okay with just removing that bit and keeping the "Anonymous users have been blocked" (as opposed to "You have been blocked")? <span style="font-family:sans-serif">&mdash; <span style="font-weight:bold">[[User:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</sup></span></span> 16:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


Alternatively, is there a way to flag this up to the WMF team who implemented these changes to clean up? --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.15em 0.15em 0.1em">[[User:Yodin|Yodin]]</span><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.25em 0.25em 0.12em"><sup>[[User talk:Yodin|T]]</sup></span> 19:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
*Can we get this fixed? I've had to go back and modify two block notices int he last few hours because it was still telling them to go ahead and evade the block if they had a named account. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 20:04, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
*What it really should be saying is that if this is collateral damage, that is if the user is not the person blocked, but now has the IP because it is dynamic, '''then''' that person could and should log in and thus avoid an improper block. But I'm not sure how that should be worded concisely yet learly enoguh for a uw message. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
*{{yo|Beeblebrox|DESiegel|NeilN|Liz|Slakr}} I'm going to bring back up my proposal, which you can view at [[:Template:uw-block/sandbox]]. Feel free to modify. I think the idea is that for soft blocks, state that only anonymous users are affected, but that uninvolved editors can still edit using a registered account. This proposed modification I think addresses these concerns, and is inline with our friendly suite of warning messages that have a similar fine print message below them. If we are happy with this I can sit down and spend a painstaking 15-20 minutes deciphering the parser functions of {{tl|uw-block}} to get rid of that now unneeded if-else statement for the anon-only copy. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">&mdash; <span style="font-weight:bold">[[User:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</sup></span></span> 21:57, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
::That's certainly better than what we have now. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 23:32, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
:::It looks good to me. The net change is "If you have a registered Wikipedia username, you may [[Special:Userlogin|log in]] and continue to edit." → "If this is [[Network address translation|shared IP address]] and you are an uninvolved editor with a registered account, you may continue to edit by [[Special:Userlogin|logging in]]." The new phrasing can be included inside the block message or appended in italics below as [[Template:uw-block/sandbox|MusikAnimal did]]. I have coded a revised version of the template for both cases and will replace the current template upon request. &mdash;&thinsp;[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]]&thinsp;<small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:EmailUser/JJMC89|E]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 01:25, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
::::{{yo|JJMC89}} If you are able to get this implemented that'd be great. I see looking at the code there's an if-else check on whether to show the copy "Otherwise, once the block has expired...". We can remove that if-else and just keep the else part, which checks for an indef param and if not preset will show "Once the block has expired, you are welcome to...". Too many curly braces and brackets, it makes my head spin! You said you have this implemented somewhere, perhaps in your userspace? We should do some thorough testing before updating {{tl|uw-block}}. Thanks! <span style="font-family:sans-serif">&mdash; <span style="font-weight:bold">[[User:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</sup></span></span> 14:16, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
::::: {{Reply to|MusikAnimal}} I coded it off wiki. I can replace the sandbox with a coded version this evening (EDT). Do you want the new version to keep all the text in the block message or place it below like in your version? Also, should {{param|legal}} suppress the new text? Currently {{tl|uw-lblock}} uses it to suppress the parts of the message, including the "If you have a registered Wikipedia username, you may [[Special:Userlogin|log in]] and continue to edit." part. &mdash;&thinsp;[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]]&thinsp;<small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:EmailUser/JJMC89|E]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 16:52, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
::::::I say let's put the new message below the template like in my example, but again only when {{param|anon}} is set. We should retain all other existing functionality, so if the {{tl|uw-lblock}} template wants to hide that message than I think we should too. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">&mdash; <span style="font-weight:bold">[[User:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</sup></span></span> 18:38, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
::::::: [[Template:uw-block/sandbox]] has been updated to a working template for testing. &mdash;&thinsp;[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]]&thinsp;<small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:EmailUser/JJMC89|E]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 23:16, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Going to test this out with Twinkle tonight (EDT). Thanks {{u|JJMC89}}! <span style="font-family:sans-serif">&mdash; <span style="font-weight:bold">[[User:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</sup></span></span> 21:52, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
::::::::{{yo|JJMC89}} Little late getting to this, but I tried out various scenarios on [[testwiki:User_talk:192.0.2.1|testwiki]] and it looks OK! Would you like to do the honours? <span style="font-family:sans-serif">&mdash; <span style="font-weight:bold">[[User:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</sup></span></span> 00:13, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
* {{Yo|MusikAnimal|Beeblebrox|DESiegel|NeilN|Liz|Slakr}} {{Tl|uw-block}} has been updated with the revised language. &mdash;&thinsp;[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]]&thinsp;<small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:EmailUser/JJMC89|E]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 00:26, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 7#Template:Uw-cyberbully|Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 7 §&nbsp;Template:Uw-cyberbully]]==
== Potential addition of a <nowiki>{{uw-recreatedcsd}}</nowiki> template ==
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== Templates warning against frivolous XfD/PROD nominations and comments? ==
It might be good if we had a <nowiki>{{uw-recreatedcsd}}</nowiki> or similar template, to warn a user for a copy-paste recreation of a previously CSD'd article. It happens a fair deal, and when it does generally needs to be dealt with fast. It would help increase awareness among new contributors that when an article is CSD'd, it's gone for a reason, and just recreating the same content is unacceptable. Thoughts? &#124; [[User:Naypta|Naypta]]<sup>[[User talk:Naypta|✉]]</sup> <i>opened his mouth at</i> 19:45, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
:{{U|Naypta}}, We already have {{tl|uw-create1}} thru {{tl|uw-create4}}. How would your proposed <nowiki>{{uw-recreatedcsd}}</nowiki> differ, except for specifically citing [[WP:CSD]]? [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:14, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
::{{ping|DESiegel}} Those templates simply say "you've done something wrong in the article". What I would propose the text for <nowiki>{{uw-recreatedcsd1}}</nowiki> to read, for instance, would be something like this:
::''[[WP:WELCOME|Welcome]] to Wikipedia. Thanks for trying to improve the world's largest encyclopaedia. I hope it was done in [[WP:GF|good faith]]. However, I noticed that you've been recreating content that's been previously subject to a'' '''parameter goes here - CSD or PROD or XFD''' ''. Articles that are deleted will always have a deletion reason visible in a red box on the old article page'' '''(if CSD parameter specified "and a deletion code you can look up at [[WP:CSD|this page]]")''' ''. It's fine to recreate an article if you've made significant improvements to it that mean the deletion criteria no longer apply, but recreating the same content will result in redeletion. Thanks.''
::What do you think? &#124; [[User:Naypta|Naypta]]<sup>[[User talk:Naypta|✉]]</sup> <i>opened his mouth at</i> 04:56, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
:::{{U|Naypta}}, that might be useful, and I don't suppose it could hurt. I would remove the third sentence: "{{xt|I hope it was done in [[WP:GF|good faith]].}}" as this could be seen as sarcastic or as an indirect way of suggesting bad faith. I would add a suggestion to contact the deleting admin, which is always a good idea. Is this going to be part of a 4-template series, or a single issue template? If a series, the later ones should probably mention the option of asking for permission to recreate at [[WP:DRV]]. (If a single issue, it should perhaps be mentioned here.) If you are going to include prods, note that anyone can ask for a prod to be undeleted at any time at [[WP:REFUND]], and unless it was a BLPPROD or would have qualified for speedy deletion, it will normally be undeleted pretty much automatically. On the other hand, after an XfD it is generally better to create a draft and ask at DRV. The template might be simpler and clearer if it ONLY handled CSD deletions. For one thing, there is no policy or guideline against recreating an article deleted by PROD, and no good reason to warn anyone who does so. On the other hand, after an XfD a new article by the same name may well be tagged for G4 speedy based on the name alone. The cases are sufficiently different that I think having "one template to rule them all" is probably a bad idea. Do others have any views on the matter? [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:13, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Way too much jargon for new users. Don't expect them to know (or care) what CSD or PROD or XFD mean. Just say "recreated content that was previously deleted". --[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;"><b>TALK<br />PAGE</b></span>]]) 14:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Concur with Ahecht. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 16:08, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


What is a good way to warn a user who makes a clearly inappropriate or disruptive XfD/PROD nomination, such as one without a valid reason for deletion? What about users who make disruptive comments at XfD that have nothing to do with the deletion policy? [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 02:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
== Plagiarism can also be copyright infringement in a way. ==


:@[[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]], here's my recommendation: start by writing [[User:Xenon54/Don't template the newbies|a manual message]]: explain why their edits are disruptive, ask them to stop. If it's a new editor, try to [[WP:3LA|avoid jargon]]. If disruptive edits continue – revert. Then [[Template:Uw-disruptive1]] becomes appropriate, since it presupposes that the edits were reverted. —⁠[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 07:44, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
What if I have said "possibly plagiarized"? Would that be better? Also, the reason why I did that was because I have argued that it would be plagiarism if one were to treat another's work as if one's own by using it over and over despite giving credit to another, which makes it sound as if one were just using it as an "excuse" of doing so and not really being honest about giving such credit. That is my point of view, and that is why I have done it. Is there something which I need to know? [[User:Gamingforfun365|<span style="color:yellow"><s><span style="color:#541854">Gamingforfun</span></s></span><sup><u><span style="color:red">3</span><span style="color:green">6</span><span style="color:blue">5</span></u></sup>]] [[User talk:Gamingforfun365|(talk)]] 05:41, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
::A manual message seems good. The issue I have with existing templates is that XfD nominations and comments shouldn't be reverted like other edits just for being unconstructive (like saying an article "fails GNG" when it obviously doesn't). XfD nominations can be closed as [[Wikipedia:Speedy keep|speedy keep]] if there's no deletion rationale or they're obviously disruptive, but that's not exactly reversion and doesn't apply to all frivolous nominations. [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 08:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

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your account has been used for advertising or promotion -> it has been used for advertising or promotion

Minor nitpick to reduce repetition. Mori Calliope fan talk 21:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to be a side effect of the changes made by Jpgordon in Special:Diff/1162488493. --Ahecht (TALK
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Good nitpick, fixed. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 00:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2024

Please fix Template:Uw-mislead3, it expands with a <!-- Template:uw-move3 --> comment instead of <!-- Template:uw-mislead3 -->.
I just had this shocking moment where I warned someone with a level 4 move disruption warning because I copied it and thought 'oh no, I warned them for move disruption in the third warning too, how did I not see it' - but no, turns out it's just the comment that's been wrong since the template was made. – 2804:F14:80C8:4701:9C49:A8E6:A25E:3091 (talk) 03:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done -- John of Reading (talk) 10:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion: Merge templates for removing XFD notices

Proposal: Merge AFD, RFD, TFD, CFD, FFD and MFD user warning templates into one. This would let editors use a centralized warnings list for deletion in general instead of having to go and carefully find the one for the appropriate XFD. If needed, we could add a parameter to disambiguate which.

Here's what the templates might look like:
Uw-xfd1: Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in deletion debates. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you.
Uw-xfd2: Please do not remove deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in deletion debates. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you.
Uw-xfd3: Please stop. If you continue to remove deletion notices or comments from deletion debates, you may be blocked from editing.
Uw-xfd4: You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove a deletion notice or a comment from a deletion debate.
Uw-xfd4im: This is your only warning; if you remove a deletion notice from a page or delete comments from a deletion debate again, you may be blocked from editing.
Any suggestions welcome! If you reply here, please ping me. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 23:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Link the plain and simple COI guide?

A lot of newcomers on Wikipedia might not be familiar with all of our policies and feel lost in the wordings, maybe it would be good to link a more beginner-friendly guide such as Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide in {{uw-coi}} and {{uw-coi-username}} to gently nudge them towards more responsible editing? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:00, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vector legacy

The template currently says: "you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you)." This seems to apply to the Vector Legacy skin, but not the current Vector 2022 skin. I think there are now two places "Move" can be: the Tools sidebar, or Tools menu, but I don't know which one appears by default. Depending on this, please can the template be reworded, maybe to something like:

  • "you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" action in the "Tools" menu at the top of the page (the "Tools" menu may be in a sidebar to the right of the page for you)."

or

  • "you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" action in the "Tools" sidebar to the right of the page (the "Tools" sidebar may be hidden as a menu at the top of the page for you)."

Might also need a sentence there saying something like "if you're using the Vector legacy skin, there should be a "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu)." (Is there a way to automatically detect which skin the user is using, and display text appropriate to that? This might be more difficult if this template has to be subst'ed.)

Updating Help:Moving a page, and a replacement for File:Vector hidden move button.png would be nice to have, but probably not worth waiting for to make this change.

Alternatively, is there a way to flag this up to the WMF team who implemented these changes to clean up? --YodinT 19:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 7 § Template:Uw-cyberbully. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 11:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Templates warning against frivolous XfD/PROD nominations and comments?

What is a good way to warn a user who makes a clearly inappropriate or disruptive XfD/PROD nomination, such as one without a valid reason for deletion? What about users who make disruptive comments at XfD that have nothing to do with the deletion policy? Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Helpful Raccoon, here's my recommendation: start by writing a manual message: explain why their edits are disruptive, ask them to stop. If it's a new editor, try to avoid jargon. If disruptive edits continue – revert. Then Template:Uw-disruptive1 becomes appropriate, since it presupposes that the edits were reverted. —⁠andrybak (talk) 07:44, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A manual message seems good. The issue I have with existing templates is that XfD nominations and comments shouldn't be reverted like other edits just for being unconstructive (like saying an article "fails GNG" when it obviously doesn't). XfD nominations can be closed as speedy keep if there's no deletion rationale or they're obviously disruptive, but that's not exactly reversion and doesn't apply to all frivolous nominations. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 08:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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