August 22

Template:Sub judice

• Template:Sub judice (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This is a quite scary template (created Dec. 2018) that seems to be advising (in a very non-specific manner) to defer to the government and not publish anything on the page the courts might not want. That sort of deference is totally misaligned with Wikipedia's values, where we write an encyclopedia based on verifiable reliable sources, regardless of what anyone in power wants. In practice, this template probably discourages negative information, even when it's well-sourced, which is not desirable. We have WP:NOLEGALTHREATS protecting editors against legal action, and any edit so slanderous as to not be covered by that is surely in violation of BLP or other notices on the page, making this redundant. I'm also nominating some forked templates in the same family, where the same concerns apply. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 04:51, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I hope editors remember that we have an awful banner blindness problem on talk pages; the question is not "could any editor possibly find this at all helpful", but rather "is this essential to have on every page related to legal proceedings when most will presumably already have lots of other banners"? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 04:58, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have dug up the circumstances behind my re-creation of this template, and it appears to have been related to a high-profile ongoing criminal prosecution which had an extremely strict suppression order in place in the relevant jurisdiction. Several large media organisations had just been hauled into court over breaches and many local Wikipedia editors may have breached the order unknowingly, placing themselves at risk. The intent of the template, rather than to intimidate anyone, was simply to alert local editors to an unusual and temporary risk within their jurisdiction. It is in the interest of the proper administration of the encyclopedia that our editors not get sued into oblivion.

Having said this, I can understand that subtlety may not be realised by all editors who add the template to a talk page, and that the template may remain in place for a period exceeding that which is necessary. In this respect it has a time-sensitive and limited scope in the same way as {{Current}}. For these reasons I am comfortable to support Delete or redesign if that is what people would prefer. Cheers. TheDragonFire (talk) 08:03, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:MTV artist

• Template:MTV artist (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Delete The mtv.com website has been restructured, and so this template no longer produces working artist-specific links; all default to a high-level page on the site. Research reveals no edits to the template code that would solve this issue. Only 32 mainspace transclusions. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:12, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Information from Jeremy Cuss, son of Eileen

• Template:Information from Jeremy Cuss, son of Eileen (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

One-off template used a single time to annotate a detail in Herbert Cecil Potter and no likely other use-case. Proposing subst-and-delete. DMacks (talk) 03:55, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Welsh Constituency Election box begin

• Template:Welsh Constituency Election box begin (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Scottish Constituency Election box begin (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Both redundant now after I made the fix to the coding on the articles where these were used. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:47, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]