I noticed that in the Ukrainian version of pages, the Wikipedia logo has the colors of the Ukrainian flag. I think that is a great idea. Would it be possible to extend that idea to the pages in all the other languages? I realize that there is a potential issue with the fact that some languages are spoken in many countries while others are spoken mostly in a region or province of a country. I am sure some kind of protocol can be devised for these cases. 67.186.48.166 (talk) 04:51, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

hi ip user! each language Wikipedia is a different project with different standards and different members, so I believe you would have to raise this proposal in each individual wiki language. happy reading! 💜  melecie  talk - 07:06, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Before the war, that wasn't there probably. It's only there now because of the war. Cool guy (talk • contribs) • he/they 18:13, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Somehow my display turned out as 1st letter capital. How can I change it to have proper Case?

Thanks! Dhavalpawar (talk) 22:24, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki automatically capitalises the first letter of every username. This is a technical limitation. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 22:26, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Dhavalpawar, hello and welcome to the Teahouse, what Jéské Couriano is apt, the first letter is indeed always automatically made to be capitalized, we are sorry if this makes you feel bad, but this is beyond our control. Celestina007 (talk) 22:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Dhavalpawar. You can create a custom signature that displays your username in all lower case if you want. Please see Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing your signature for details. Cullen328 (talk) 00:52, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can also use the DISPLAYNAME magic word. This is what I do on my user page. As for usernames, that's not possible. Cool guy (talk • contribs) • he/they 18:19, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Cranloa12n, your user page has "Displaytitle", not "Displayname". Does the difference matter? And you have customized your sig too, it looks like. Right? 73.127.147.187 (talk) 07:06, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

K Cool guy (talk • contribs) • he/they 13:43, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Dhavalpawar: Hi. magic word is a bit unnecessary. Like Cullen328 suggested above, customising the signaature is better. I customised my signature as soon as I found out about it. My signature also has been always lowercase, my current signature is very simplistic though. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:04, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone take a look at this draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Way.com? They've been flagged for notability issues; however, there are very few companies that can claim they've made the Top 100 Marketplace list https://future.a16z.com/marketplace-100/. Seems to me they meet notability guidelines. 2600:1700:442:2810:C0B7:CFE1:EADD:22B8 (talk) 17:05, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As already replied elsewhere, there is nothing inherently notable about that? Theroadislong (talk) 17:08, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). "Examples of trivial coverage that do not count toward meeting the significant coverage requirement: …inclusion in lists of similar organizations, particularly in "best of", "top 100", "fastest growing" or similar lists(If the list itself is notable, such as the Fortune 500 and the Michelin Guide, the inclusion counts like any other reliable source, but it does not exempt the article from the normal value of providing evidence that independent sources discuss the subject.)" Dege31 (talk) 17:14, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This kind of makes sense - however the notability of the Marketplace 100 is a reliable 3rd party source, independent from all companies on the list. There is a Wikipedia page for the group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreessen_Horowitz. Way has also has been featured in Inc, Benzinga and Tech Company News - independent third party publications companies can't buy their way into. If this does not suffice, can someone provide more examples (outside of Fortune 500 and Michelin Guide) of what would qualify? 2600:1700:442:2810:C0B7:CFE1:EADD:22B8 (talk) 17:26, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, the lead is buzzword filled and unsupported by the article and the product overview is unsourced. Purely promotional article that attempts to use routine business announcements/press releases to establish notability.Slywriter (talk) 12:22, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. In the Wikipedia page for Anand Vihar metro station of Delhi Metro, I would like to edit the section on track layout because it is completely wrong (the station has 4 tracks, not 2). Can anyone please help me get started with this? Thank you in advance.

Kool Nerd 123, Hello and welcome to the Teahouse, we are glad to have you, you see Wikipedia is about verifiability, so if you have reliable sources that corroborates your claim then you are at liberty to edit the article and introduce the "correct" statement via reliable sources. Celestina007 (talk) 19:26, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your prompt reply User:Celestina007. Yes, I definitely have a reliable source for my claim, which is the official website of the Delhi Metro. Here[1] is a link to the relevant page. Now, I would like to know where I can learn how to edit track layouts, so if anyone can help me with that, I would be really grateful. Thanking you in advance. Kool Nerd 123 (talk) 19:52, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Kool Nerd 123. Please see the documentation at Template:Routemap. Cullen328 (talk) 00:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help User:Cullen328. You posted exactly what I wanted. Kool Nerd 123 (talk) 15:41, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've been playing in my sandbox and now I want to clean things up. Is there are way to delete drafts from my sandbox?

Delta30061972 (talk) 03:46, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Delta30061972: Yes, you may place {{Db-userreq}} on the page and an admin will delete it for you. RudolfRed (talk) 03:55, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thank you so much! Delta30061972 (talk) 03:58, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Delta30061972: You probably don't need to have the sandbox itself deleted. Instead, all you might need to do is simply blank the page. Bascially, you just remove all of the content from the sanbox and then click "Publish changes". The content will still be there in the page history of your sandbox if you want to retrieve it someday, but the sandbox will be empty and you use it again for something else. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:34, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info. In this instance, I wanted to remove the history. I was experimenting and working on other articles all in one box so the history was a mess. I'll know in the future now to keep my work sorted into different sub-pages. Delta30061972 (talk) 06:50, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My nephew did some searching he should not have done online, and much to my dismay, it seems to be permanently stored in my Wikipedia search history. Can anyone help me delete the search history on Wikipedia? I would be most grateful. Navyvet1963 (talk) 06:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Have you tried clearing your cookies and cache? Do keep in mind that this does log you out of most sites. Cheers, Heart ^(talk) 06:13, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Navyvet1963. Did you allow your nephew to log in under your account? If so, you made a major error because accounts are for one person only, cannot be shared, and each account holder is responsible to use secure passwords. I have been married for over 40 years and my wife knows my passwords to many websites. But she has no idea of my Wikipedia password. As for the notion of a "search history", that does not exist on Wikipedia although it may exist on your browser. Wikipedia keeps track of every edit that an account makes. It does not keep track of the articles that anybody searches for and reads. Cullen328 (talk) 06:22, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply. My nephew wasn't on Wikipedia, but things he searched showed up on my Wikipedia search. I am going to delete cookies to see if that helps. I appreciate your reply. Navyvet1963 (talk) 03:09, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clearing cookies now. Thank you! Navyvet1963 (talk) 03:12, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Hi Navyvet1963. I don't think the situation you're describing is possible since I don't think there's any connection to your what you search for on Wikipedia and what you search for using external search engines. Perhaps, you mean that your nephew somehow gained access to your Wikipedia account and used it to make some (inappropriate) edits? If that's the case, then that is certainly a serious problem which might lead to your account being blocked indefinitely. Account passwords aren't supposed to be shared among different people and it's the responsibility of the user who creates the account to make sure that doesn't happen. There's really no way to delete an account's contributions history since such a record is required for Wikipedia's licensing purposes; so, unfortunately the best that you can do is to do your uptmost to make sure that your nephew doesn't gain access to your account again. The only edit you've made so far with this "Navyvet1963" account has been your post here at the Teahouse; so, I guess this account would be considered "clean" so to speak. Assuming it was another Wikipedia account that your nephew accessed, you may have no choice other than to abandon that account and either stick with this one or create another account to use for your Wikipedia editing. The account your nephew was using (if that's what happened) could most likely be locked by an adminsitrator so that nobody can use it. You could then add a link to your old account to the user page of your new account so that other can see the edits you made with the abandoned account. I'm not an administrator, but there are many Teahouse hosts who are and perhaps one of them will be better explain what your options in a case like this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:31, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Navyvet1963 (talk) 03:11, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think what Navyvet1963 may be referring to are the items that appear in the dropdown when one clicks in the Wikipedia search box. These are stored in your browser, so deleting your cookies should get rid of them. (You will then need to log in again.) It's good practice to delete your cookies from time to time.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:08, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. Navyvet1963 (talk) 03:06, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are so right, and I appreciate your help. Thank you. Navyvet1963 (talk) 03:12, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How to submit this for publication? Ieromaxos (talk) 10:23, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ieromaxos Draft:Georgios Mikellides has been submitted to AfC for review. There is a backlog of drafts submitted. The system is not a queue, so a Reviewer could select your draft in the coming days, weeks, or months. David notMD (talk) 11:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In looking at the history of the draft, it has been declined several times in the past. These Declined notifications must remain with the draft. I have restored those. The continuing reason for the draft being declined is that the great majority of the text and referencing is about his publications, presentations, panel discussions, etc. What is missing is what people not connected to him have published about him. David notMD (talk) 11:18, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The draft appears to be a translation from an existing article at Greek Wikipedia. Each country's Wikipedia has different standards for tone and referencing, so what is accepted in Greek does not necessarrily apply to English. David notMD (talk) 11:28, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If it's a translation, it must be marked as such (see Help:Translation). This is not only a matter of good manners and good sourcing; it's a matter of conforming with WP's own copyright, that text can be used freely but must be attributed. Ieromaxos, please check the help on translation linked above, and make sure that you're conforming with requirements. Good luck with the article. Elemimele (talk) 12:59, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

thank you, for this actually , it was written in English first and the English text was used as a basis to be translated in Greek, so the original version is in English, in the texts which has been referenced a lot is what the media used as information coming from dr mikellides, so in a way, see reference number 2 for e.g is what the cyprus mail reporter has said about him Ieromaxos (talk) 14:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@David notMD, @Ieromaxos... the phrasing sure sounds like a translation. Several sentences are not grammatically correct. If I had time, I would do some copyediting. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 09:01, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ieromaxos Hi there! I see you uploaded the photo of Mikellides as your own work. What is your relationship with Mikellides? GoingBatty (talk) 06:26, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For a start, delete all mention and referencing to talks he has given, interviews, conference he has spoken at, panel discussions, etc., etc. All that is inconsequential. David notMD (talk) 14:38, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. My username is Marthature. I have received an email that my proposed article on musician Bobby Black "Articles for creation: Bobby Black (musician)"Draft:Bobby Black (musician) has been rejected by Wikipedia. The reason given is that the article does not cite sufficient reliable sources and seem to be promotional. The sources cited are published articles in reputable magazines, recognized Halls of Fame, etc. Please tell me what is wanted that can make the article acceptable. It would be helpful to me to know what is lacking in citing, for example, the Steel Guitar Hall of Fame, the California Western Swing Society Hall of Fame, the California Country Music Association, the Arhoolie Foundation, the Grand Ole Opry, etc. I might add that Wikipedia cites the Steel Guitar Hall of Fame, for example, in articles about other steel guitar players, and there are Wikipedia articles on virtually every one of the entities listed. Thank you. I'd like a reply to either mobile view or to VisualEditor. Marthature (talk) 12:13, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Marthature Hello. Just noting that your draft was only declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning here, that it could not be resubmitted. Declined means resubmission is possible. 331dot (talk) 12:16, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. That's nice to know. I would like to know how to make this article acceptable, please. Thank you. Marthature (talk) 12:20, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Marthature Also noting that you will be able to see replies irrespective of if editors make them via traditional editing or the Visual Editor. I have looked at your draft, and this musician does appear to meet the definition of a notable musician so you are partway there. The issue is that the sources do not show that. It is not enough to just document that he was inducted into various Halls of Fame. There must be significant coverage of this musician personally in independent reliable sources, for an article to summarize, in order for him to merit an article. Much of the prose in the draft is unsourced, and must be as all substantive facts about a living person must be sourced, see WP:BLP. 331dot (talk) 12:26, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think I see. If I understand matters, what's wanted is some number of published mentions of the subject, Bobby Black, in news and trade publications. I am comparing to the Wikipedia article about Buddy Emmons, another famous pedal steel guitar player. Buddy Emmons. The narrative style appears to be the same as this piece on Bobby Black. Am I understanding this correctly, that Wikipedia needs more articles about Bobby Black to be used as references? Thank you for your help. Marthature (talk) 12:36, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On sourcing, there is only one useable source that actually discusses the subject of the draft and contributes to notability. At least 3 of the sources have zero mention of the subject, 2 are forum posts and several others are blog postings, list of award recipients. None of these contribute to notability and tje ones not mentioning the subject at all should be removed. Need more sources like vintageguitar.Slywriter (talk) 12:32, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Marthature your second paragraph reads: "As one of the first generation of pedal steel guitar players, Bobby Black is a major contributor to the musical styles of the instrument and one of its primary innovators, expanding the traditional Hawaiian and Western genres in which pedal steel was used to include jazz and rock and roll. During the years he spent playing with Asleep At The Wheel, Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen, and New Riders of the Purple Sage, he introduced the steel guitar to countless young music audiences in the 1960’s and `70’s." and your only reference is a Variety article about the death of George Frayne. I skimmed through that Variety article, and if Bobby Black's name was mentioned I didn't see it.

That article showed that George Frayne had a music career, but it didn't prove anything about the Bobby Black paragraph you wrote. You need to find articles about Bobby Black. Not ones about people he may have worked with, but about Bobby Black. I didn't look at the other references, but I was disappointed in the one I skimmed through. Every fact that you write down needs a reference that tells Wikipedia readers that fact is true. Best wishes on finding those references. Karenthewriter (talk) 12:44, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You have hyperlinks in the body of the article (not allowed, either delete or make those into references), and references are just URLs. See Help:Referencing for beginners on ref formatting. As already pointed out, you have a LOT of text not verified by references. Either remove the text or add references. That includes stuff such as Early life and Personal life, which is probably true, but not referenced. David notMD (talk) 14:46, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Marthature, as for Buddy Emmons, the references in that article are vastly better than your references, plus they are formatted correctly. You only have one really good reference, and that is the article in Vintage Guitar. You need more references like that, and you need to eliminate the references that don't mention Black. They are of no value and just tend to irritate the reviewers. Cullen328 (talk) 18:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to emphasize that Black meets the notability guideline for musicians that says a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles is presumed notable. Our articles Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airmen, Asleep at the Wheel and New Riders of the Purple Sage say that he is a past member of all three bands. Cullen328 (talk) 18:25, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have uploaded a new version of the logo of Exynos available at the Exynos page, but it's still showing old logo. Why? Logo Editor (talk) 15:08, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Logo Editor and welcome to the Teahouse. It's showing fine for me so it's likely you have a local browser problem. Try to bypass your cache. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:47, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone know how to submit a humouros essay you want to be an internal wiki article like Wikipedia:My little brother did it, Wikipedia:Go ahead, vandalize, Wikipedia:Please be a giant dick, so we can ban you, etc? MoyaiViper (talk) 16:13, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MoyaiViper and welcome to the Teahouse. I think you'll find all you need at WP:ENUT and WP:WES plus pages linked from there. Good luck with the writing! Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:20, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

looked around but couldn't find how to actually submit them. MoyaiViper (talk) 16:26, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

thanks anyway tho MoyaiViper (talk) 16:26, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think we had an edit conflict when you were replying and I added WP:WES to my earlier answer. That's the page that covers the "how to submit" part, MoyaiViper Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:29, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ah i didnt see that, excuse me MoyaiViper (talk) 16:32, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So i looked some more and couldnt find how to submit. I did find out how to create it well though. thanks for that. Do yu know of anyone who would be able to make it an internal article? MoyaiViper (talk) 18:14, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MoyaiViper:. You have the draft in your sandbox and in principle it just has to be moved into the correct namespace (i.e. prefix "WP"). However, I would strongly suggest you don't do so. The experienced editor Theroadislong was clearly not impressed when reviewing it, and I have to agree that it's not particularly amusing or useful in its present state. Note that WP:TOOMANYESSAYS points out that you should not repeat ideas/advice that are covered elsewhere, in this case about edit warring. Maybe you would be better trying to improve an existing essay on that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My edits to the Mark Crispin Miller page were undone because they were said to not be 'constructive'? Says who? And why? All I did was remove the word 'disgraced' from a description of Andy Wakefield. I know Andy and the word disgraced doesn't describe how he feels about the incidents described in the article about Miller. 2600:1700:D470:C940:FD23:3295:1148:CDF4 (talk) 16:47, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Constructive: is it useful to our readers? If not, it's probably not constructive. CUPIDICAE💕 16:50, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We can't base edits on your personal knowledge, as that is impossible to verify. Edits must be supported with published independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 16:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

COI issues aside, the word "disgraced" is a bit too subjective for my taste. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps "discredited" would be a better word, which is the word used in the lead of Andrew Wakefield. Wakefield's personal feelings about the matter are not relevant. What matters is what reliable, independent sources say about Wakefield, and they overwhelmingly describe him as discredited and disgraced. Cullen328 (talk) 17:13, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's a smart alternative word choice, in my opinion. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:22, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The main reason I reverted the edits was because of the removal of sourced content. See the diff >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 17:31, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"the word disgraced doesn't describe how he feels about the incidents". Maybe not. But it is how reliable published sources describe Wakefield. Or, if you prefer, “dishonest,” “unethical,” and “callous".^[1] Maproom (talk) 06:14, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Where have the settings gone? 92.40.200.2 (talk) 17:53, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IP user, as far as i know, they haven’t gone anywhere if they aren’t being displayed on your device can you switch to a different device? Celestina007 (talk) 18:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello I want to make an update to the Bola Ahmed Tinubu Wikipedia Profile, I noticed an anomaly in the Place of Birth. In the Early life section the state is Osun but in the personal details section. the state is Lagos(which is most plausible). Should i make the change SchrodingersC (talk) 19:56, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I don't see that either place has an associated citation to allow readers to verify the information. This is against policy for biographies of living people. You would be best to raise the issue at Talk:Bola Tinubu and/or try to find a reliable source for his birth place. Note that this article has been repeatedly vandalised regarding his birthdate/age, so beware that this may also be true for his birth place. Thanks for trying to improve the article, SchrodingersC. Mike Turnbull (talk) 20:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Michael D. Turnbull I will do just that thanks. The birth date age argument is ridiculous by the way... it is more of a political propaganda in Nigeria SchrodingersC (talk) 20:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@SchrodingersC: Looking at the the associated Wikidata item, it says he was born in the Benin Republic but that has a "this statement has potential issues" tag. It would be great if you could sort it all out properly with sources. Mike Turnbull (talk) 20:36, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SchrodingersC, Hello, and welcome, I echo Michael D. Turnbull very loudly, my very candid advice is not to adjust anything pertaining to his age, place of birth, Infact not touching the article altogether except a consensus is agreed at the TP of the article. The aforementioned is causing a major crisis in the political sector in Nigeria. Celestina007 (talk) 17:21, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What is required to write a new wikipedia page SchrodingersC (talk) 20:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@SchrodingersC for information on writing your first article, please read Help:Your first article. For other information on general Wikipedia editing, Help:Introduction is a good guide. Welcome to Wikipedia :) — Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 20:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Berrely thanks SchrodingersC (talk) 20:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!How do you make a minor edit? When I go to the edit summary box, it doesn't have a checkbox for "Minor edit". TeddyBearRocker123 ^chat _contribs 20:17, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello TeddyBearRocker123! Were you definitely signed in when you were trying to make the minor edit? Because you cannot tag an edit as minor if you are not signed in, probably intended to cut down fly by night vandals trying to sneak an edit in under the minor flag. If you are signed in, under "Edit summary" there should be written "This is a minor edit" with a tick box. Hope this is of help! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 21:33, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But be aware that "minor" here has a special meaning. It means something that cannot possibly in any way be construed to be controversial, something that even the most extreme of editors would see as obviously sensible (for example the correction of an obvious typo). It doesn't just mean "small". I made that mistake several times when I first started editing, and still feel guilty! If in doubt, don't declare the edit to be minor. Elemimele (talk) 21:48, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@LooksGreatInATurtleNeck: I don't see the box under the edit summary. It might be something to do with my preferences though, so I'm going to try that. @Elemimele: Thanks for the advice! I will make sure to apply it in the future.

TeddyBearRocker123 ^chat _contribs 01:20, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TeddyBearRocker123: what device/browser are you using? The minor option is usually not available in mobile view. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:09, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Usernamekiran: I'm using a mobile device, so that's probably why.

TeddyBearRocker123 ^chat _contribs 20:17, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TeddyBearRocker123: you can get desktop either though browser's option, or at the bottom of wikipedia's page. Also, I think you are pressing enter key after your comment, and before your signature. Thats breaking the ping, as well as the indention of the conversation. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:33, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Usernamekiran: Thanks for the tip! Now I can make a minor edit. Also, I'm not breaking on the signature; I just realized that's been happening. I'm gonna fix it. -TeddyBearRocker123 (talk) 22:13, 16 April 2022 (UTC) 22:08, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know how to use Vector 2022 on mobile but it gets optimize on my screen so the letters aren't small. THE Pizzaplayer!^{TALK TO MEE!!} _contribs 20:22, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Pizzaplayer219: As far as I know, you can't use Vector on mobile. However, if you go to Settings,you can adjust the font size, as well as turn on "Advanced Mode" which you may or may not want. Advanced Mode takes off certain limitations a mobile device would have without advanced mode.

TeddyBearRocker123 ^chat _contribs 15:05, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On the page 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, the article description has been removed and the introduction has been replaced with a source. I tried to revert it back to normal, but the page has been fully protected. Is this just me who is viewing the page like this or is everyone viewing it without the description and intro? Because no one seems to be noticing on the page. Vamsi20 (talk) 23:06, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for mentioning this, Vamsi20. Fixed. (Previously, Karma1998 had indeed replaced shortdesc with a source, which I presume was unintentional.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:20, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

just looked up ed wynn because i wanted to know when the mad hatter voice died and the page has the wrong birth date on this being after his death, i don't know when the actor was born, so can someone with a source fix this maybe 146.200.191.164 (talk) 23:29, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IP editor. I'm really sorry, but I don't see the error you are referring to. Could you clarify the issue you're seeing, please?

It's usually best if you post suggestions or concerns at the article's talk page, rather than here, We do sometimes see vandalism affecting articles, but I don't see that having happened at this page. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:39, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what error you are seeing. Ed_Wynn says born November 1886, died June 1966. There are citations for both dates. If you think this is not correct, you can start a discussion on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 23:41, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What does contributing That guy in the corner of the room (talk) 01:18, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, That guy in the corner of the room. You have to do your best to make sense if you want to get an answer that makes sense. So far, you seem to be speaking nonsense, which is unproductive. Cullen328 (talk)

First, Welcome to Wikipedia. Teahouse is a place where experienced editors will answer questions about how to edit.Looks like you started to pose a question, then hit Publish changes and never came back to finish. Second, Wikipedia is NOT a place to chat with other editors. Your one word postings ("Hi") on several editors' Talk pages have been deleted. David notMD (talk) 12:47, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• That guy in the corner of the room, hello and welcome to the Teahouse, I see you have gotten responses from Cullen328, & David notMD, who make up two of four leadership figures here at the Teahouse (including Nick Moyes & 331dot), It seems you have made them irate which is very much unusual, I haven’t seen anything yet but could you read WP:CTW, WP:GETTINGSTARTED & WP:TUTORIAL before making any further edits? Celestina007 (talk) 17:13, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Ok That guy in the corner of the room (talk) 18:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, not reporting anybody in particular, just want to know what I should do to stop it. I've noticed an editor violating NPOV and creating articles with obvious POV slants, what should I do? BurritoQuesadilla (talk) 05:49, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, BurritoQuesadilla. Check out Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard, which is the proper place to file this kind of report. Cullen328 (talk) 06:36, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• In addition to what my colleague told you, it is imperative to tell POV from WP:BALANCE it isn’t impossible that the hypothetical editor in question is merely trying to "balance up" an article, if you are very sure it is POV you are dealing with, then yes, please go to WP:RFN. Celestina007 (talk) 16:53, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks @Celestina007@Cullen328. I am certain that it is not a case of balancing as the editor in question was creating new articles with POV issues. I'll lodge a report at the NPOV noticeboard. BurritoQuesadilla (talk) 17:58, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alright then, feel free to keep asking questions here. Celestina007 (talk) 18:11, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wikipedia family. How can I add a club uniform to a template in an article about football clubs on Wikipedia? Thanks Good work — Preceding unsigned comment added by EVRRVE. (talk • contribs) 06:00, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

EVRRVE., I find to my surprise that uniforms are programmable; I mean, they can be (and usually/always are) specified in text (using for example colors that themselves are specified in hexadecimal values of red, green, blue) as values for a number of attributes within Template:Infobox football club, which explains what to do. I notice that you're a newish editor; if you're in an ambitious mood, then you're welcome to try all this, but I can't really recommend it: it's probably better for you to start with more humdrum uses of templates and infoboxes; and when you're used to these (which shouldn't take you long), then tackle the specification of club uniforms. -- Hoary (talk) 09:21, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I am a relatively new editor on Wikipedia who would like to work hard to see the London article finally graded as a featured article. However, I am not sure what to work on. I have looked in the article milestones but this article was last assessed in 2008 and I am guessing a lot has changed on the article since then. Should I put it forward for FA review again or is that not the correct route? Thanks for your time Kabiryani (talk) 09:19, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kabiryani You can nominate it for FA review. However it can be a fairly arduous process and you as the proposer will be expected to do most of the work. It's a large complex article so you'd better have lots of free time. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:10, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Dodger67 I am hoping to re-invigorate WikiProject London to assist me with this task but I will definitely be working hard! Thanks for the help. Kabiryani (talk) 12:26, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

London has had literally thousands of edits since the last failed attempt at raising it to FA, so worth a consideration. I suggest you look at Talk Archives 4 and 5 to see comments made when it was being raised to Good Article and last considered for Featured Article. I suggest that before nominating for FA you do a lot of grunt work, including checking every reference, copyediting, deleting trivial content even if referenced, etc. David notMD (talk) 13:01, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at articles about major cities around the world. None currently FA!! Several are GA. Many are B. There is a pattern of city articles being nominated for GA or FA and failing more than once, or even being listed and then delisted. Most are varying degrees of locked, but even with restrictions, there is such a high frequency of edits that can cumulatively cause the articles to degrade in quality, hence delistings. David notMD (talk) 13:12, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I plan to follow the WikiProject Cities guidelines to clear up any obvious problems! I believe Washington DC is a FA but I haven't come across any others. If this article reaches FA status, which I believe should not be too hard due to major contributions back in Wikipedia's golden age, I will keenly watch over the article. Perhaps I will have rollback rights by then! Kabiryani (talk) 14:37, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct - Washington, D.C. became FA in 2008. It has had 5,000 edits since then - one wonders if it should be reassessed. David notMD (talk) 16:31, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't there a reassessment system on Wikipedia? After all, featured articles are more likely to be popular articles and are thus more likely to be vandalized. Kabiryani (talk) 16:46, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FAs are often locked against vandalism by IPs and new accounts, and have Watchers that will revert the worst of errant edits, but that does not prevent good faith edits degrading quality over time. Every so often GAs and FAs need to be sent to review. Which can be abused. Barak Obama became a FA in 2004, survived eleven (!!!) FA reviews before being demoted at the twelfth. So, currently not FA or GA. David notMD (talk) 19:57, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Recently I came across this Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_practice In the References, I noticed the some of the article titles were in quotations, and some were not. (A few book titles even seemed to have double quotations).

What is the correct format for article titles? (I know book titles do not require quotations, but am less certain about article titles.) TNewfields (talk) 09:54, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TNewfields It seems to me the article is (somewhat inconsistently) using APA style citations. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:03, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As a fourth year medical student I find a troubling discrepancy of quality between Wikipedia articles of Western and non-Western medical professionals. Is there any ongoing collective initiative to address this issue? Every second or third article about non-Western subjects seem to be a complete mess, significantly smaller content-wise and slapped with years long unresolved tags while their Western counterparts are maintained in proper order. Is there any reason why Wikipedia editors seemingly opt to prioritize one over the other? Toxitrophic (talk) 11:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Toxitrophic See WP:Systemic bias the English Wikipedia is mostly edited by westerners, specifically Americans, British, Australians, Canadians and other Europeans. There are a significant number of South Asian contributors, but nowhere near enough to balance the overwelming reliance on Western English language sources. I'd suggest you raise this issue at WT:WikiProject Medicine as that's where the editors interested in medicine co-ordinate their efforts. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:37, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Hi Toxitrophic. Since users are WP:VOLUNTEERs, they’re free to work on whatever articles they want for the most part. It’s possible that articles about Western medical practitioners are easier to find sources for and thus easier to try and improve than perhaps their non-Western counterparts. There could also be other reasons as explained in WP:SYSTEMATICBIAS. You are of course free to try and improve such articles yourself, but maybe try discussing your concerns at a place like WP:MEDICINE or at other relevant WikiProjects. You might find users who would be willing to help you out. Please also remember that English Wikipedia is only one of many Wikipedias, and it’s possible that some of people you’re referring to have more developed articles on some other language Wikipedia. If they do, then that could provide some ideas on how to improve their articles on English Wikipedia. — Marchjuly (talk) 11:47, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My bad Toxitrophic. I wasn’t intentionally trying to basically repeat what Dodger67 posted. We were both responding at the same time which caused an edit conflict, and I didn’t catch that I was being fairly redundant until after I clicked “Publish changes”.— Marchjuly (talk) 11:52, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I added Ari Folman's film the Congress which references the book The Age of Spiritual Machines to the "In other media" page of the latter. I cited the film's script which mentions the book by name. It was removed because apparently only a secondary source means something is notable enough to add it to the "In other media section." I have seen countless articles where the "In other media" or "In popular culture" section cites only primary sources. Is there anywhere where the rules regarding this are written down or is someone just being overzealous here? HaileJones (talk) 12:52, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

HaileJones, hello and welcome to the Teahouse, It would be a great idea if you attached diffs. Furthermore please always assume good faith, "or is someone just being overzealous here?" isn’t a kind statement. To answer your question, it is indeed important to use secondary reliable sources to substantiate any statement you put on the English Wikipedia, if or not you have observed others doing so is immaterial, what matters is you as an editor doing the right thing. Furthermore sometimes not every detail is needed in an article. Celestina007 (talk) 16:48, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, what do you mean by diffs? HaileJones (talk) 04:36, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@HaileJones See Help:Diff. GoingBatty (talk) 06:20, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from Wikipedia talk:Teahouse § Videogame article image

 – —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:11, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A bit ago I asked here about uploading a copyrighted image for an article of a videogame, and was told it's allowed as long as the article is in the mainspace (ie, not draft). Said article is now in mainspace, I've gone to upload the image on wikipedia/wikicommons but both times it's done a "make sure you're only uploading this if it's your own work!" of course, is it not my own work, so what is the process for uploading this type of image? -- NotCharizard ^🗨 14:07, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I figured it out! Sorry all. -- NotCharizard ^🗨 14:26, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Ishaan Barde Yami tan (talk) 17:20, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Yami tan: Hello. According to the article, Ishsaan Barde's father's name is Kuunal Barde. Then how come he is mentioned as "Ishaan Sheth Barde" in the article? —usernamekiran (talk) 20:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Yami tan, and welcome to the Teahouse. The main answer to how to improve the article is to find some sources each of which is all three of reliably published, wholly independent of Barde, and contains significant coverage of him. Your first reference, to linkedin, is neither reliable nor independent: it is almost never appropriate to cite linkedin in a Wikipedia article. The next three sources are essentially the same article (so it is dishonest to cite them separately), that does not contain significant coverage of Barde, and so does not contribute to establishing notability. After that I got fed up and didn't look at any more sources. Please read verifiability and your first article. ColinFine (talk) 20:55, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Yami tan, where did you get the information that's in the draft? As the comments in the draft say, info in the draft must be referenced with inline citations. The blue text in those comments are links to more information which should answer your question. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 22:04, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ... our wires crossed, abd my answer was basically redundant... 73.127.147.187 (talk) 22:05, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The rest of the refs are just more go-cart race results, with name-mentions of Barde participating. Clearly not Wikipedia notable. David notMD (talk) 02:12, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some of this article's listed sources may not be reliable.

This biographical article related to the United States military is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. Arfy4545 (talk) 21:08, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Arfy4545: The tags should remain. Joab Hoisington Is still a stub and it is referencing unreliable sources such as ancestry.com and FamilySearch. RudolfRed (talk) 21:57, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Thanks. Arfy4545 (talk) 23:00, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For example, if I see an edit done by a non-confirmed user that is clearly vandalism on a page with pending protection, can I and should I revert it? ClydeFranklin (talk) 21:08, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ClydeFranklin: Welcome and thanks for wanting to fight vandalism. If I understand WP:PC correctly, only editors with the pending changes reviewer right can accept or decline pending changes. The backlog at Special:PendingChanges is short, so a reviewer will get it to soon. RudolfRed (talk) 21:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ClydeFranklin: Hello! The above is definitely true, but do note that pending changes protection doesn't stop you from reverting on a page. If the vandalism hasn't been accepted yet, your revert will just be the newest edit in the pending changes queue and a reviewer will accept it. If the vandalism is already on the page, same applies and you can revert; a reviewer will get to it shortly after. Happy editing! Bsoyka (talk) 22:06, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How do I add a photo of this plane in Vietnam with a comment Charromy (talk) 00:40, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Charromy If it is a photo you took yourself, then try Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 06:16, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi everyone, I am completely blind and use a screen reader. While this site is already useable for me, I wanted to learn if any specific skin plays nicer with screen readers than the others, or ones I should avoid. I'm currently using MonoBook, as it seems to be the most compatibility focused. To be clear (and not to insult anyone's intelligence!) this is not a question about font or contrast, but about the best skin to use for this kind of assistive tech. Thanks HueAskew (talk) 02:05, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Don't mind me, I'm just pinging Graham87, who I know has experience with using screen readers on this site. 97.113.171.180 (talk) 02:20, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Monobook is the best skin for a blind person. Graham87 04:01, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much. HueAskew (talk) 04:02, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have asked this but the answers were not what I expected. I saw a list of sources for each topic but I do not know where they are located. Oixyplanet (talk) 02:34, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Oixyplanet. You need to be more specific with your questions. List of sources for which topic? How can we help you if you do not identify the topic or the specific article? How can any Teahouse host help uou unless you provide this basic in information? Cullen328 (talk) 05:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I read a novel with a character that could appear on this page's list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_rodents_in_literature

After I carefully keyed in the edit, left the "minor edit" checkbox unchecked, provided a brief summary of my edit, clicked on "show preview" and found my edit on the previewed list, I went back to the edit page and found it was not saved (as warned might happen). So, I visited the article's edit page once more to key in my edit again, left the "minor edit" checkbox unchecked again, and provided the same brief summary before I clicked on "publish changes."

My edit does not appear on the article page list. Is there a lag until the edit is approved by someone? I'm sorry for the trouble but this is literally my first ever edit. Thank you for your patience. Trev Swain (talk) 04:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Trev Swain. I am sorry but this edit here at the Teahouse is your first recorded edit to Wikipedia. There are no deleted edits and no edits stopped by an edit filter. You must have failed to publish your previous attempts to edit. Cullen328 (talk) 05:05, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the welcome. My connection is strong and stable. Trev Swain (talk) 06:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Trev Swain: Welcome to the Teahouse. As far as I can tell you haven't made an edit to that page at all. In fact, this question is the only edit you've made so far to Wikipedia. Is your connection stable? I find that tends to be an issue in submitting edits. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:06, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize to you and Cullen328 for replying to Cullen328 with my answer to you. To both of you, I will try to make my edit again. Trev Swain (talk) 06:16, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Trev Swain, about your mention of going "back to the edit page":
Actually, after you click "show preview" and view your changes the edit page will still be there at the bottom of the preview page with your typed summary (and your changes), it's only if you navigate back or close the page that your changes and your edit summary become lost. Hope this helps. – 2804:F14:C060:8A01:FCEC:2577:ADD4:1299 (talk) 05:44, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I gathered that, but thanks for the confirmation. Trev Swain (talk) 06:17, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To all three who kindly replied to help with what I thought should have been my first edit, I tried again, with success. Thank you. Trev Swain (talk) 06:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello all. I made an edit to an article that contains a list (added a book title, author name, and brief description):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_rodents_in_literature

I notice that when I hover over the default hyperlinks, the identity of another more famous person with the same name appears in a small preview box. The same goes for the cover of the novel. I searched, but the author does not have a WP article associated with his name. I considered uploading the book's cover, but I don't own the copyright. I learned I can upload it under another (non-CC license). Would someone please advise as to the best license in such a case? Thanks to all who reply, in advance. Trev Swain (talk) 06:38, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Trev Swain, if a book cover is copyright (under a non-CC license), and the copyright isn't yours, then the only way you may upload it is to claim fair use for this or that article. This will not be possible for a mere item in a list. So you may not upload it. -- Hoary (talk) 09:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Hoary. Trev Swain (talk) 20:50, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Yanai citation needed for my studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder "both his MA in 1970 and PhD in 1971 from the University of Colorado Boulder[citation needed]". I already hyperlinked University of Colorado Boulder why is the page still an Orphan 109.64.3.242 (talk) 07:40, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello 109.64.3.242! When an article is an orphan (click that hyperlink for a more detailed guide) it means there are no links connecting to it from other pages. For instance if it were an actor's page, you'd expect a link to it from at least one of the films/TV shows they had been in. These links leading to an article help to make it more findable. You can check to see what pages link to an article by clicking the "What links here" on the left of their page. The note at the top of that page stating it is an orphan would actually remain regardless of whether the problem it mentions is fixed or not as they are manually removed by editing the article & deleting the Orphan template at the top in {{}}. But you only remove them when the problem they mention is fixed. Hope this is of help! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 08:26, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Liz contacted me and suggested I join Teahouse. So i have created a draft for Teahouse, let me know if have any suggestions or improvements? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_talk:Septimius_Awards Please feel free to edit the article and suggest edits? Evagirl1991 (talk) 12:14, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello everyone, i tried creating a draft page for Septimius Awards but it was suddenly deleted by User:Yamla with no explanation? What is going on, how can I improve the article if I can't create a draft page? Evagirl1991 (talk) 12:51, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Evagirl1991 Hello. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something. A Wikipedia article about an event must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the event, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable event. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 13:10, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Evagirl1991. If you go to the original draft page, you will find the explanation, which is that the draft was considered "Unambiguous advertising or promotion". Promotion of any kind is not permitted on Wikipedia. Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:34, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Septimius Awards was Speedy deleted under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. On your Talk page you mentioned that there are non-English references supportiing Septimius as notable. Non-English references are allowed. David notMD (talk) 14:35, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

thank you david, i did not know that Non-English references are allowed.

please create a draft page for Septimius Awards and i will add the notable Non-English references? For example the Times of Vietnam posted an entire article about our event. Evagirl1991 (talk) 14:54, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Evagirl1991 If this is your event, please read WP:COI and WP:PAID for information on disclosures you may need to make. 331dot (talk) 15:01, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse hosts are here to advise, but not to be co-authors. David notMD (talk) 17:15, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On Talk, you have repeatedly denied having an connection to the topics you write about, yet above, you wrote "...about our event." Please explain. David notMD (talk) 17:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

hello david, sorry english is not my first language, i mean my article that i created for the event, this is something i would like to add. i had no idea Non-English references were aloud.

please help me? Evagirl1991 (talk) 18:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Evagirl1991. You have said repeatedly that there are many articles about the event, but you haven't given any details. Please give us citations (author, publication, publisher, date, title, link if available) to the three best sources you have: The sources don't have to be in English, but each of them must be reliably published - that is, published by an organ with a reputation for fact-checking and editorial control; independent - not written or published by anybody connected with the event, and not based on an interview or press release; and containing WP:significant coverage of the event, not just mentioning its name or giving dates. ColinFine (talk) 19:54, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please anyone tell me what is the writing process to write a good article for a businessman/entrepreneur. And yes he has notable content on the google news websites. Abdalla AlShamsi1 (talk) 15:55, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Abdalla, and welcome to the Teahouse. The main thing to remember is that you are not writing an article for the businessman, but an article about him. What he has said, done, created, or published are almost irrelevant unless they have been written about by people wholly unconnected with him in reliable sources. Furthermore, whether he wants there to be an article, and what he wants such an article to contain or not to contain, are totally irrelevant. Please start by reading about notability, and make sure you can find the reliable sources, wholly independent of him, that are essential to establish that he meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. If you can't find these, give up, because you will be wasting your time. If you can, then please read your first article.

Having said that, I would warn you that creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, and editors who try it before they have several weeks or months of solid experience of improving existing articles usually have a frustrating and disappointing experience.

One final comment: new editors who come here, and immediately try to create an article about a person (or a company, or a band) very often have a conflict of interest. What is your connection with the businessman? ColinFine (talk) 16:18, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Abdalla AlShamsi1, hello there, I see you have already received an answer from ColinFine, who is one of the most advanced Teahouse editors, and whilst they have given you an extensive response, as they already asked you, I would like for you to indicate what sort of relationship you have with this business man, how do you know them? These are extremely important questions you should answer honestly if you want any form of help from us. Celestina007 (talk) 20:51, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A different problem: You created Draft:Abdalla Alshamsi, which was Speedy deleted. So either you were trying to create an article about yourself (see WP:AUTO for why this is a bad idea), of you have chosen as your User name a person you want to create an article about. Which? David notMD (talk) 21:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Abdalla AlShamsi1, let's have a look at (deleted) Draft:Abdalla Alshamsi:

"Besides having leadership and entrepreneurship skills in his business he has also had a personal lavish lifestyle in which he owns many costliest and most unique stuff like exotic cars, villas, watches etc.

"Abdalla Alshamsi owns Richard Mille RM 17-01 Tourbillon Carbon TPT watch and its price is $493,000 which equals 3,73,38,562.85 INR and 18,10,789.00 AED."

The reference provided for his ownership of this "Richard Mille RM 17-01 Tourbillon Carbon TPT watch" was sanjana. "Abdalla Alshamsi - The famous Businessman from Dubai who owns RM 17-01 watch worth $493,000". Asianet News Network Pvt Ltd. Retrieved 2022-04-16.. The latter, awestruck web page is described as "By Team MyNation"; and it ends "The watch is handcrafted with uncompromising workmanship & artistry inspired by the deep engineering methods used in the designing of Formula 1 racing cars. It is made for those who deserves [sic] it, so for its [sic] obvious reasons it is with Abdalla Alshamsi." And then there are a couple of links, and finally "Disclaimer: This is a [sic] featured content". I wonder what "featured" here means. "Paid", perhaps? Anyway, what "his business" is, and what his "leadership and entrepreneurship skills" in this are seem more important to me than how he chooses to distribute his personal wealth. Yet the claim in the draft that he's "a UAE-based famed entrepreneur and businessman" failed to specify what the business was, and cited "Abdalla Alshamsi a self-made man with magnificent signature lifestyle". Deccan Herald. 2022-04-11. Retrieved 2022-04-16.. Again, we read "This article is part of a featured content programme." And (perhaps in part because it too doesn't bother to say what it is that finances this "magnificent signature lifestyle") some here are sure to find it an amusing read, but hardly the stuff that Wikipedia articles can be based on. -- Hoary (talk) 22:39, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When I am not logged in, if I hover over a link, it shows a preview of an article (with an picture and all). But when I am logged in, there is no preview when I hover over a link. Is there a way to change this, so that I can see previews when I am logged in? Lupine453 (talk) 17:57, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Lupine453. Preferences -> Gadgets-> Navigation Popups. I think I read that there is another alternative, but that's the one I use. ColinFine (talk) 18:05, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How can I contribute :) Lazap (talk) 20:40, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lazap, Hello and welcome to the Teahouse, the best way to contribute for now is to learn, please read WP:TUTORIAL & WP:GETTINGSTARTED. Celestina007 (talk) 20:44, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are more than six million articles in English Wikipedia. All of them can be improved. Look at articles for which you are already familiar. For example, your high school or your town/city. David notMD (talk) 21:26, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :) Lazap (talk) 22:28, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are they? 22:07, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, IP. If you are having trouble understanding a Wikipedia article, please specify which article it is. -- Hoary (talk) 22:41, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So what is a school project on here as seen on this template{{School block}}

Lazap (talk) 22:29, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lazap, I have retitled this. Your original title, "Heyy", is not informative or helpful. The template you reproduce mentions "class projects", linked to Wikipedia:Student assignments. Does Wikipedia:Student assignments fail to explain? If something remains unclear, please ask. -- Hoary (talk) 23:04, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

oh I didn’t read that I’ll get right to it! Lazap (talk) 00:33, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All right I’ve read it and I’m a bit confused on the outreach part like where do I put the group is that allowed in stuff do I have to go trough a process Lazap (talk) 00:44, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lazap, I'm sorry, I don't understand where do I put the group is that allowed in stuff do I have to go trough a process and therefore cannot start to explain. -- Hoary (talk) 00:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK so I want you read that article then go to the link where it says outreach wiki so you can see what I’m talking about Lazap (talk) 00:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lazap. The template you've mentioned above states as follows:

If editing is required for class projects, please have your instructor or network administrator contact us (with reference to this IP address) at the Unblock Ticket Request System with a contact email address that is listed on your school's website.

So, if you're a teacher and want your students to be able to edit using the school's IP address, you should file a request using Wikipedia:Unblock Ticket Request System and explain what you want to do and why. If you're a student who wants to edit using your school's IP address, you should ask your teacher or some other adminstrator at your school to make such a request. If you just want some general information on using Wikipedia for class project, try looking at Wikipedia Education's website found here. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:17, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not blocked just working on something Lazap (talk) 01:33, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I forgot the password of my account and I did not put an email when I created it so I cannot reset my password. My account is relatively new, I created it less than a month ago. What do I do? 67.173.50.123 (talk) 00:23, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Create a new account. On its user page, say that you were previously [old username]. On the user page of the old account, say that you are now [new username]. -- Hoary (talk) 00:47, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IP editor. I'm really sorry, but if you did not give a 'reset email address', then if you have forgotten your password, there is no way to reaccess your account. The only option is then to create a new account, but you can always leave a comment on the old account to say that it is linked to the new one. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Guys, A person known to me, has kids that are receiving abuse because of some written things on this page. The items written are irrelevant to the very old page but are having a serious impact regarding these children. Who can I talk to to make some small edits to stave off this abuse?

Yours, with thanks in advance Dan Danhobbs (talk) 02:36, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

hi Danhobbs! what article would you like to change? you could perhaps add a edit request to change the article and get feedback on your proposed edits if you feel like you're personally connected to them. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 04:41, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Danhobbs.If you're worried about posting anything more specific on a public page like the Teahouse (because of concerns like this and this), you should take a look at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Relationship between the subject, the article, and Wikipedia and try to follow the advice given there. There are various ways to discuss your concerns off-Wikipedia so to speak via email, and perhaps once of them might work for you. One thing you might want to try and avoid is repeatedly trying to edit the article in question since that actually can have an undesired effect and may actually lead to your account being blocked if the editing is somehow mistaken for disruption. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just completed expanding the article The Young Pioneers (miniseries), and then went to what I assumed was the article's Talk page, to upgrade the article from Stub to Start. After completing the upgrade I noticed I was actually at Talk:The Young Pioneers, and that there was a notice of a Redirect from Talk:The Young Pioneers (miniseries). I find that quite awkward, as it's difficult to get from that redirected Talk page back to the article I'd just worked on. Am I allowed to try and figure how to remove that redirect, or should I first ask on the Talk page if anyone objects to me removing it? There is Young Pioneers (novel), Young Pioneers (film), and Young Pioneers' Christmas, and they all seem to have their own Talk pages, so I have no idea what the redirect is all about. Karenthewriter (talk) 02:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Teahouse,

There have been many issues regarding possible stonewalling on a living person's WP article Talk Page. Please check that on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Patrisse_Cullors, two editors who frequently edit articles together, as can be confirmed by reviewing their Talk Pages, have refused any addition to the primary, protected article over recent allegations of nonprofit funds misuse by Mrs. Cullors. The issue here is not the use of non-RS, like Fox News or Daily Mail, but after several acknowledged RS surfaced in the past few days, such as The Independent, NY Mag, Jezebel, Snopes, and others, these two editors still refuse by claiming that this same RS previously did not consider Mrs. Cullors culpable. They further try to deflect any addition by claiming only the nonprofit Mrs. Cullors led should bear any additions these RS might bring since, in their own words, "this is a smear campaign."

We require a neutral Admin, not related to this article, that will look at this situation. I believe this is a clear case of WP:STONEWALLING and WP:TAGTEAM. Please help us with the following steps to take.

Thanks for your time.

108.34.231.7 (talk) 02:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• This seems to be a case of forum shopping. This IP editor hasn't been able to build consensus on talk in a timely manner (roughly 24 hours ago) so they've applied both to dispute resolution and to this worthy forum. I encourage the editor to stick with one helping venue; choose. The editor does seem to be trying to improve their sources but is meeting strong arguments from experienced and BLP-knowlegeable editors that the requester here is doing some original synthesis. BusterD (talk) 03:34, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Hi BusterD, what would you say about the experienced editor, as you mentioned, who has hounded me, gone to my IP's Talk Page and posted two warnings, and responded to all my suggestions in an aggressive manner? Would this be appropriate from an experienced editor? Not only that, but only two editors are stonewalling this issue on that Talk Page. If you look across the Talk Page, more editors are commenting otherwise. So this is not a case of me alone vs. two experienced editors. I am the one who is requesting a neutral look from outside since many, many RS have mentioned these very recent accusations. These two editors have made plenty of changes/edits to that article and, after protection was granted, are guarding this person's article and accusing all those RS of being part of an "orchestrated smear campaign." This goes against WP:NEUTRAL. 108.34.231.7 (talk) 05:29, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators cannot use their admin tools to intervene in a content dispute unless there are serious conduct issues at play. Disagreeing vehemently with the people on opposing sides of the dispute is not a serious conduct issue. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 04:27, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, IP editor. I am an administrator so I took a look and what I see is a content dispute, and administrators do not adjudicate content disputes. It is obvious that this particular dispute relates to the critically important policy Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons which says Biographies of living persons ("BLPs") must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives; the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment and also A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law. Accusations, investigations and arrests do not amount to a conviction. For individuals who are not public figures; that is, individuals not covered by Public figures, editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed, or is accused of having committed, a crime, unless a conviction has been secured. If different judicial proceedings result in seemingly contradictory outcomes that do not overrule each other include sufficient explanatory information. In this case, there are allegations of of inappropriate real estate purchases. Without expressing any opinion about the best way to describe this issue, or whether to mention it at all, I will say that perhaps two separate real estate transactions are at issue, and that one was made by an organization and the other by the individual in question, possibly using her own funds. The policy issue is that, unless misconduct has been proven by a court of law, there is a very high threshold to even mentioning such allegations. Any mention of this matter must accurately and neutrally summarize what high quality reliable sources say about the dispute. Coverage from unreliable sources should not influence the content discussions in any way, shape or form. Any editor who "grinds an axe" to advance an effort to smear a living person should be aware that they are at imminent risk of a block. Cullen328 (talk) 04:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Admin Cullen328, thanks for replying. Regarding the "smear campaign" accusation by two editors who frequently edit together (as seen by their Talk Page), they are accusing the recent RS of having orchestrated said smear campaign, not a particular editor. So, in essence, NY Mag, The Independent, Snopes, and Jezebel, to name a few, are part of such a campaign. Regarding WP:BLP, while your point is very understandable, the question would be how and when to include direct accusations by RS. The request is to do so in a neutral manner. The issue is that these two editors prevent the mere mention of this. Many RS' with inline citations could be used for a neutral sentence or two. Nevertheless, if I misunderstand WP's policy and all BLPs must avoid accusations even when sourced to several RS, I would humbly ask why many BLPs do not conform to this and do document what RS' say? Mainly in politicized issues, a public figure such as Mrs. Cullors being directly pointed at by RS' such as NY Mag, The Independent, Snopes, and Jezebel for sure can have a mention, to use your words, and accurately and neutrally summarize what has transpired in the past few days. I agree with that. Apologies for any misunderstanding, but I would like to reiterate that we are only trying to use RS'. We are not pushing for specific verbiage but for including "something." We just want to follow WP:BLPPUBLIC and simply document what these (multiple RS) sources say. Thank you for helping. 108.34.231.7 (talk) 05:40, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've noticed that for many articles about people, there aren't any images of them in the infobox. Images of those people, however, are publicly available when you go to Google Images. Why is this? Is it that hard to find a non-copyrighted or CC image, or did the editors writing the page merely forget? Vortex (talk) 05:07, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These aren't just stubs. There are fully completed pages without images, too. Vortex (talk) 05:08, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The former. (Google Image Search pulls up copyrighted images just as readily as it pulls up non-copyrighted ones.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 05:08, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]