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User:ConcurrentState

• ConcurrentState (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^{(acc · ap · fm · mms · npr · pm · pcr · rb · te)}

Mainly asking to be able to continue to reply on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Josh_Cahill after it received a much needed ECP and to use the Content Translation tool to translate articles from nlwiki. It goes without saying that I wouldn't abuse it if I were to be granted the right. Alternatively, a temporary right would also be useful. I'm a reborn Wikipedian and have disclosed my prior vanished account to ArbCom. The old account was in good standing on both enwiki(11 edits) and nlwiki(~800 edits). ConcurrentState (talk) 02:23, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello ConcurrentState, if you really mean "vanished" as described at Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing, I'm afraid that should ideally be undone as you have returned to editing. Anyway, 11 edits plus your current count of 91 are far from adding up to 500, and mentioning the Content Translation tool without ever having edited nlwiki since the return seems more like copying LuCKY's successful request reason above rather than an actual committment to using the right for this purpose. The Task Center and the community portal describe a lot of ways the needed experience can be gained naturally, slowly, and without having to skip the process. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:11, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:12, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The decision was to be expected, so there's no real argument from me there.

It is the rest that I aim to address with this reply:

• Yes, I was referring to WP:VANISH. I think it would've been more appropriate to address the matter of undoing/unvanishing in a reply to the disclosure email to ArbCom sent by me on Tuesday. Still, since you brought it up, I'm not opposed to undoing it and merging the two accounts, since it would eliminate some of the issues I've so far encountered. Perhaps we could even roll my name change request into it as well and get it all done in one fell swoop. I would request, however, that you reconsider my EC request under the new parameters post-unvanishing;
• On the matter of the Content Translation tool; Yes, the request above informed me about the existence of the tool because, as far as I know, it didn't exist when I joined wiki originally nearly 9 years ago. That doesn't mean, however, that I haven't already started the painstaking process of translating nl:Arnhem off-wiki in an effort to improve Arnhem and that I haven't experienced how useful the tool could be on metawiki. Depending on what rights comes with ArbCom membership, you can verify this by checking my watchlist or stuff like mw:Manual:user table#user_touched. It's true that I haven't edited nlwiki since my return a little under two weeks ago because enwiki is now my home wiki, which is why it gets most of my attention and why I'm translating nl→en instead of the other way around. That doesn't negate the edits I did on nlwiki prior to coming back, however, especially if you insist on unvanishing the old account.

Regardless, I'd appreciate it if you could strike the parts of your comment that seem to suggest I'm not being afforded WP:GF, because it kind of feels like I'm being bitten (whether you consider me a newcomer or not). ConcurrentState (talk) 19:36, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello ConcurrentState, I've since had a look at the disclosure, but I can only address what is publicly written here on this page. In response to the public description of a vanishing that should probably be undone, I stated that the vanishing should probably be undone. It was you who brought up the topic as an argument for receiving a permission, and it seems legitimate to respond with at least a short clarification that vanishing is not really meant for this purpose and that an edit count of 11 on a second account isn't really an argument for receiving extended confirmation.

I personally am not granting the permission because of the concerns I described above – and I (think I) have to explain this instead of simply saying "Not done". I understand that the explanation is easily perceived as biting, and that a small amount of not assuming good faith is part of it. As I have expected and you have confirmed, the idea of integrating the Content Translation tool into the permission request came from LuCKY's request and wasn't the reason why you opened this page. Even if this resulted in actual interest in also using the Content Translation tool, it clearly wasn't the reason for your request, so I decided not to take it into account too much.

The easiest way to translate pages is to copy the entire source page into a subpage of your enwiki user page, and then translate from top to bottom. The Content Translation tool doesn't offer much beyond this already-available option. It ensures that attribution requirements are met by linking to nl:Original_page_name in the edit summary of the first translation edit, but you can manually do so too (WP:CWW). ~ ToBeFree (talk) 10:39, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Sorry, I overlooked an indirect question above. I can't view watchlists; only the system administrators of the Wikimedia Foundation can. Logins appear in checkuser results, but there seems to be no reason to perform a check.) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 10:41, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It feels like we might be venturing away from the clerical into the personal, so I've instead left you a comment on your talk page. ConcurrentState (talk) 21:39, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:FinFangFoom

• FinFangFoom (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^{(acc · ap · fm · mms · npr · pm · pcr · rb · te)}

I logged into my Wikipedia account for the first time in about 9 years to register a position on the Al-Rashid Humanitarian Aid Incident title change and ran afoul of this ECP block. My user account meets the established criteria and I request access to be granted. FinFangFoom (talk) 14:10, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done (automated response) by FinFangFoom. — MusikBot ^talk 15:10, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi FinFangFoom, editors who have been offline for a long time are automatically granted the permission when they start editing again. Ironically, this happened on the request page here, so you have now granted your own request. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Lionel Cristiano

• Lionel Cristiano (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^{(acc · ap · fm · mms · npr · pm · pcr · rb · te)}

Hello, this right was canceled because I made unnecessary edits. I then made hundreds of productive changes. I request this permission again. Lionel Cristiano^? 17:00, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Automated comment This user has had this permission revoked in the past 180 days ([1]). — MusikBot ^talk 17:00, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. Cryptic, your opinion? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:08, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I want to use the translation program and I want to edit extended confirmed protection pages. Lionel Cristiano^? 17:13, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm close to granting this request as the removal of extended confirmation – to me – is only possible for temporary reasons that seem to be gone here. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]