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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 26, 2017.

List of countries with ice rinks and ice hockey

Long-standing redirect created by a page move in 2015. List of countries without ice rinks and ice hockey was deleted by postdlf due to an unreferenced hockey-related junk article edit warning. Not only is there no ice rinks nor ice hockey exists in several countries. AaronWikia (talk) 20:18, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep the redirected article is giving the searcher what they are looking for. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:37, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The redirect is doing exactly what it should be. It is sending them to what they are looking for. -DJSasso (talk) 22:39, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I'm not sure what the problem is. If the information in the redirect target is lacking or erroneous, then correct it. Ravenswing 02:32, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

UKofGBNI

Delete all as implausible redirects.

  • "UKofGBNI" gets exactly 3 independent hits on Google. The stats tool is refusing to give me any figures.
  • "U.-K." is a completely implausible mix of hyphens and full stops. It gets a trickle of hits that is borderline noise level.
  • "United Kingdom," has a trailing comma and past consensuses at RfD has always been that these are not useful. Thryduulf (talk) 20:09, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Regno Unito

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

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Delete per WP:FORRED. There is no affinity between the United Kingdom and Italian, Spanish, French (incorrectly and correctly hyphenated), German or Dutch. The German and incorrectly hyphenated French redirects were discussed in August 2015, both discussions were closed as no consensus. The participants of those discussions were @GZWDer, WilyD, Mathrick, Rubbish computer, Tavix, DGG, BDD, A D Monroe III, BU Rob13, Steel1943, and Just Chilling: and SiTrew (who I will not ping as they are currently topic banned from RfD). I will also notify the UK Wikiproject. Thryduulf (talk) 19:42, 26 May 2017 (UTC) I forgot to sign first time, so those pings will not have worked, so trying again: @GZWDer, WilyD, Mathrick, Rubbish computer, Tavix, DGG, BDD, A D Monroe III, BU Rob13, Steel1943, and Just Chilling:. Thryduulf (talk) 19:42, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep because from time to time someone translates an article from German and leaves intact links that say something like this: [[Vereinigtes Königreich|GB]]. I cleaned up a number of those when I created that redirect, and just now I found two more that had been created and cleaned those up as well. That will probably recur from time to time. Maybe the WP:FORRED policy should be adjusted to take this into account. Michael Hardy (talk) 01:18, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • In that situation I would say that the redlink would indicate the presence of an error such that it would be cleaned up much quicker without misleading people that they can find information in German on en.wp. Thryduulf (talk) 02:24, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blake Peake

Delete. It'd be silly to assume this is the most significant part of Blake Peake's career. According to HockeyDB, he played four years with American International College. He also went to the playoffs with the Okotoks Oilers and played for the Notre Dame Hounds and Battlefords North Stars. -- Tavix (talk) 19:00, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: Created by an editor subsequently placed under a community ban from creating new redirects (for creating hundreds of suspect ones to burnish his page creation count), this follows the pattern of many of them: an obscure NN hockey player (in this case, someone who never played hockey beyond a just-barely-Division I college school) redirected to a single tournament in which he played. Fails XY, in that this is certainly a more implausible target than American International College itself, the college hockey program where the subject was a four-year starter. (Come to that, I wager I'm the only editor around who's actually seen the AIC Yellow Jackets play home games). Ravenswing 02:39, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Great Britain (1801–present)

Where should this point? The current target is the general article about the country which has existed in its present form since 1922, although the article also deals with the two preceding states Kingdom of Great Britain (1707-1800) and United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (1801-1922). The History of the United Kingdom article also covers from 1707 to the present. History of the British Isles covers a broader geographical area prehistory to the present. The post-1800 history of Great Britain is covered in multiple articles with more limited span - Georgian era (1714 to 1830), Regency era (1795 to 1837), Victorian era (1837-1901), Edwardian era (1901-14), History of the United Kingdom during the First World War (1914-18), Home front during World War II#Britain (1939-45) and History of the United Kingdom (1945–present). Great Britain is primarily a geographical article and contains no information about post-1800 history, pointing to History of the United Kingdom.Thryduulf (talk) 17:35, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The article United Kingdom is a about a state which has existed since 1801. It was renamed when most of Ireland seceded, that's all. And even then, largely through precedence (though some titles were officially changed by an act in 1927). Idk why I created that redirect though, its pretty pointless. I'd favour just deleting it. Rob984 (talk) 18:07, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Throw A Fit - EP

Delete: Contra-MOS markup (capital A vs. MOS:TMRULES/MOS:CAPS, dashed "EP" vs. WP:DASH and WP:OFFICIALNAME) and unnecessary disambiguation on a redirect, where the ambigous conterpart, Throw a Fit, does not even exist. Lordtobi (✉) 16:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per my comments on the similar redirect below. Thryduulf (talk) 17:13, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete unless the album has a dash in it, this won't help anyone. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:32, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Thryduulf's comments below, and WP:COMMONNAME. Hyphens are almost universally used, at least in en:us; dashes are a tiny minority in American English, which applies since this is an American musician. Nyttend (talk) 22:03, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Throw a Fit (EP)

Delete: Unnecessary disambiguation on a redirect, where the ambigous conterpart, Throw a Fit, does not even exist. Lordtobi (✉) 16:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Daedelus catalog

Delete: Unnotable WP:CATALOG item. Lordtobi (✉) 15:59, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep at least some. I don't think WP:CATALOG applies to redirects. If it did, we could feasibly delete every single redirect that has ever existed for something that is not an article. Redirects are WP:CHEAP and there is no valid reason to delete most of these. Ss112 16:01, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Other than WP:CATALOG, a redirect would require that a user looking for the item he is searching for finds valuable information on the subject, but in all of these cases, we would redirect the reader to a page where it is only included in a list, maybe sealed with a release year, but nothing the reader would actually want to know (development, release, length, genre, etc.), which makes these redirects rather confusing. This reasoning was with a lot of good deletions recently. Lordtobi (✉) 16:08, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    A user may actually create the article(s) in future, and I don't think the redirects are confusing anybody because it's directing readers to the artist who made it/them, i.e. a more general topic (the reason why Template:R from album exists to place on redirects, is it not?) There just seems to be no real point to deleting redirects when they only appear to help and not hinder. These redirects are like placeholders until/if somebody wishes to expand them beyond that. Ss112 16:25, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • (edit conflict)Keep those that are mentioned in the list. Generally, redirecting non-notable topics to a list in which they appear is encouraged (if there is no more in-depth coverage elsewhere) as it gives people some information and discourages the creation of articles on non-notable topics (see also {{R to list entry}}). It sounds to me that the best way to address your concerns is to add more information (e.g. length, genre) to the target list. Thryduulf (talk) 16:27, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Here's my mix: Delete Experience (Daedelus song). It's not mentioned at the target article, nor at any of his album articles. Keep the rest. If you were to follow WP:CATALOG, it would inform you that Wikipedia is not a sales catalog. There's no pricing at play here, so WP:CATALOG does not apply. -- Tavix (talk) 17:00, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Adventure Time (band)

Delete: WP:XY, as made up of two artists and a label, it could redirect to Daedelus, Plug Research, or DJ Frosty. Lordtobi (✉) 15:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Daedelus (musician) is a member of Adventure Time (band). [1] and Plug Research is the record label of the band. [2] Add {{R without mention}} until this can be resolved. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC) Band is mentioned. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:43, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Daedelus musician

Delete: Faulty disambiguation per some of yesterday's discussions. Lordtobi (✉) 15:51, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@AngusWOOF: Just for clarification, Thryduulf also recommended weakly keeping one of them. Do you also support that recommendation? -- Tavix (talk) 17:10, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm kind of neutral on the keywords scheme for searching: e.g. Daedelus musician. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:25, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Washington DC politics

Politics of Washington D.C. and Politics of the District of Columbia do not exist, not sure if it should be retargeted to Government of the District of Columbia or an article be created. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:23, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget per BDD. I knew we had an article on the government of Washington DC, but I didn't realize we had anything of substance on the politics. We've got an exact match, so this should go there. Either way, there should be a hatnote. -- Tavix (talk) 13:56, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Tavix, but hatnote per nom. DC is a major American city with municipal politics of its own. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:31, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Just found out Politics of Washington exists, should this point to there instead? - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:33, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • I would say no, per WP:TITLECON. Since "Washington" is an ambiguous term, "Politics of" is equally ambiguous (it could even refer to the politics of George Washington). Washington D.C. is unambiguous. bd2412 T 03:33, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Politics of Washington does have a link to the local governing of Washington DC so it would be two dabs. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:41, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - The article section "Government_of_the_District_of_Columbia#Politics" has a lot of related information there, and arguably it could be it's own separate page (or brought over to its own page and expanded). CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 03:38, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Government of the District of Columbia#Politics. I can't believe we don't already have a single article on this! --BDD (talk) 19:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but hatnote Most people who don't live in the immediate DC area would be looking for information on national politics, but given the large population of the DC Metro area and the fact that most of those people would probably be looking for local politics, it's worth a hatnote. Smartyllama (talk) 15:17, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Tavix argued the same, but I'm skeptical of this. Sure, there's general talk in American politics about "fixing Washington" and the like, but I find it highly unlikely that readers would use a term like "Washington DC politics" over things like "American politics", "US politics", etc. Maybe there's no way to know for sure, but I'd think the more specific search term would mean something. If nothing else, I think it's a good principle not to assume a search term is erroneous unless there isn't a good alternative. --BDD (talk) 15:26, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: WP:INVOLVED relist to close the May 15th log.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 15:04, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget per BDD. All the other extant "politics of X" titles that definitely refer to national capitals (Berlin, London, and Tokyo) cover the local politics of the capital itself, not the politics of the country whose capitals they are. The only possible exception is "Politics of Skopje", but this is the result of the Macedonia naming dispute, under which the entirety of FYROM is called by the name of its capital city. Nyttend (talk) 16:00, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Derek Foam

Delete. There is nowhere on Wikipedia where someone can get any substantial information on the subject. He's mentioned exactly two places in Wikipedia: 2009 CHA Men's Ice Hockey Tournament and 2011 Atlantic Hockey Tournament, both are game recaps where he scored a goal. -- Tavix (talk) 14:57, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Doesn't meet WP:NHOCKEY. Was created as a redirect in the first place.AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:50, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: per WP:XY. This is one of the most egregious of the several hundred suspect redirects created by an editor subsequently placed under a community ban from creating new redirects (to burnish his page creation count), and follows the pattern of many of them: an obscure NN hockey player from the low-minor leagues redirected to one of the teams for which he played ... in this case, just four games out of his career. A near farcically implausible target, given that he played for eight professional teams in the low- and semi-pro ranks, and was a four-year starter for his university team. Ravenswing 18:48, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pandora s box

Delete. Very unlikely a user would type a space instead of the apostrophe. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:54, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Surprisingly this is getting significant use - 87 hits last year is an order of magnitude more than noise level. Thryduulf (talk)
  • Keep per Thryduulf. I can't envision why anyone would use this, but since they definitely are, and since they're clearly planning to go to the current target, there's no reason for deletion. Nyttend (talk) 22:05, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of Conservative Party politicians

Delete as vague. --Nevé–selbert 08:37, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Namibia national ice hockey team

Long-standing redirect created by a page move in 2008. Alas, not only is there no national team for ice hockey in Namibia, there is no ice arena in our beautiful but hot country, and there is thus just nobody playing ice hockey, nothing to play it with, and nowhere to play it. I think this link should be red per WP:ASTONISH. --Pgallert (talk) 08:32, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I've added Pakistan national ice hockey team to this nomination; it's apparently virtually the same situation. Nyttend (talk) 11:23, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Looking at the history of this page, the inline hockey (hockey on inline roller skates) organization is called the "Namibia Ice and InLine Hockey Association"; the link in the article is broken, though the NIIHA has a Facebook page that indicates it still goes by that name. I agree that it appears that there's never been a "Namibia national ice hockey team", nor even that there is one planned; the article Ice hockey in Africa basically notes that they have an inline team but not an ice hockey team, and that this redirect should be deleted. I also think that Namibia Ice and InLine Hockey Association and the national team article should be merged, but that's another action entirely. Mandsford 13:16, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hooray for Everything

Delete. Non-notable organization not mentioned in target article. UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:01, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment This was originally a fictional group parodying Up With People mentioned in early seasons of The Simpsons.[3] It was then adopted as the name of a local a cappella group from Northwestern, and was later renamed Purple Haze and redirected to Northwestern. That group itself isn't notable. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:50, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Logan's Run (2010 film)

Delete. The remake did not come out in 2010 (and still isn't out). UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:45, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete failed crystal. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:51, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - It would be one thing if there was a remake in 2010, but there isn't. Not sure WP:CRYSTAL really applies, since this is in the past, but definitely inaccurate. Onel5969 TT me 03:13, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Failed film release now becomed a unlikely search term. KGirlTrucker81 huh? what I've been doing 15:07, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Motion Picture Guide"

Delete. Very unlikely that the search is done with quotation marks. UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:26, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Quotes are not necessary, this isn't a particular brand known by it's quotation marks or a catchphrase. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:51, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hang them all

I don't think there is a significant enough connection between the redirect and the target. -- Tavix (talk) 01:52, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I added these dabs to the article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:41, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mdupont:ListOfNJHistoricPlaces

Delete. It might look like a user page, but it's not: I suspect it's in the article namespace as a relic of a botched userfication. UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy delete housekeeping, nonsense term, probably used as a filler name until the actual article was created. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:53, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Doesn't make sense. FallingGravity 02:57, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom; this is probably related to User:Mdupont, whose contributions show a bit of work on historic places in New Jersey. Nyttend (talk) 11:24, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Was it originally a navbox template? That could explain why there was no spacing? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:52, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
wow you guys are really discussing deletes from my user page? wow. James Michael DuPont (talk) 23:29, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have now edited it, please busy yourselves with something else to delete. James Michael DuPont (talk) 23:43, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I've reverted your edits. The nominated redirect is not your user page. Your user page is User:Mdupont. -- Tavix (talk) 00:06, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think your revert is out of line, and I am going to look into the rules on this, this is in my userspace, what right to do you have to revert my edits to my userspace? James Michael DuPont (talk) 06:32, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Something like User:Mdupont/ListOfNJHistoricPlaces would be in your userspace. This redirect is in the main namespace. —Cryptic 06:54, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Read the original nomination, it is not in userspace. Jack N. Stock (talk) 06:42, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete. WP:SNOW WP:G6, it should have just been CSD tagged rather than RfD. Murph9000 (talk) 07:02, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Wow, I made a mistake, please delete.

Countries that teach english as a foreign language

I can't find a suitable target that has information on this. I feel like it'd need to be a list. -- Tavix (talk) 00:39, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete No such list. There's English as a second or foreign language but there's no list of countries so this doesn't serve anyone. And they even teach ESL in English-speaking countries. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:50, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to List of sovereign states, because English is probably taught as a foreign language basically everywhere. Yes, this is a joke :-) I actually agree with deletion because it probably embraces everything. Nyttend (talk) 11:25, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

इंग्रजी language

Delete: WP:RFOREIGN + mixed language. -- Tavix (talk) 00:30, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. 16:49, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2017_May_26&oldid=782641585

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