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The result was redirect to Twenty One Pilots discography. (non-admin closure) Lourdes 01:28, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Twenty One Pilots (Twenty One Pilots album)[edit]

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non-notable recording. Fails WP:NALBUM and WP:GNG. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:48, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 07:03, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 07:03, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• If page Twenty One Pilots (Twenty One Pilots album) survives this AfD, please move it to Twenty One Pilots (album). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:52, 21 August 2016 (UTC) (pp a move request in https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests&oldid=735526033 )[reply]

• Redirect to Twenty One Pilots discography – I dug and dug but it seems unfortunately that reliable sources have largely ignored Twenty One Pilots initial endeavors, with much of the coverage focusing on their recent breakout success. Perhaps in the future, critics will return to the beginnings and offer reviews, but at the moment, there just isn't enough to support a standalone article per WP:NMUSIC. The discography page already contains information about the song's charting history. Mz7 (talk) 16:22, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

One of the things I find interesting is that this album charted at position 141 on the Billboard 200, which in itself appears to satisfy point 2 of WP:NALBUM. However, upon closer examination of the notability guideline, it states: All articles on albums, singles or other recordings must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Specific to recordings, a recording may be notable if it meets at least one of these criteria: ... 2. The single or album has appeared on any country's national music chart. (emphasis mine). In other words, appearing on a chart may indicate notability, but if an in-depth examination yields little to no reliable source in-depth coverage on the topic, then it does not satisfy the basic criteria for notability. Mz7 (talk) 19:00, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep the article — It's an album, it's notable enough to have its own article, there are reliable sources, I do not see why it should be removed? (EthanRossie2000) (talk)

@EthanRossie2000: I want to keep the article too, but I can't find any reliable sources that provide an in-depth review of the subject. Could you provide links to some of them? Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 19:00, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@EthanRossie2000:. Please provide a few reliable sources, either online or in print, that provide significant coverage, like a review or analysis of the themes, that are not associated with the band or the record label. That would help to prove it's notable rather than simply claim that it's notable. For example, The Dave Clark Five, one of the first bands of the British Invasion released many albums, and only a few are notable. There are other bands who are notable and have released notable albums where some albums are not notable. This is not an indictment of the band, only an attempt to determine if this recording is recognized by experts in the field as being worthy of mention. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:22, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Twenty One Pilots discography; not independently notable and no RS have been offered in this AfD. K.e.coffman (talk) 07:10, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect for now. Viable search term, with potential to become notable in the future. (Bands that become huge often re-release their older stuff to their newfound fanbase to greater success. Like Bleach (Nirvana album) for example.) Sergecross73 msg me 15:31, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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