Susan Lindauer

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This BLP subject is notable only for her arrest. While it attracted some attention in RS, it is still just a BLP1E. There are some issues with the article's editing history that suggest the subject or someone close to the subject may be editing the article to push a different narrative than how the article currently reads. Since it is "one event" I suggest we IAR and delete Two kinds of pork (talk) 05:43, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:18, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:18, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:18, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Without wishing to comment on the general notability of Susan Lindauer, this use of the Patriot Act certainly is notable and so if it is decided to delete this article I'd like to suggest the full contents be included in the Patriot Act article which currently references it under "Controversies". While understanding that there is a heated debate over the facts and that her notability or otherwise is inextricable from this debate, I certainly found it interesting and informative. Right-Wing Hippy (talk) 20:27, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That might solve things, however I'm afraid we would have the same sort of editor delirium occurring at that article as we have at this one; that Lindauder was working undercover for the USGOVT as an agent for peace. Two kinds of pork (talk) 20:38, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just read the article for the Patriot Act, then did some research on Lindauer. I cannot find anything in any relaible third-party source that talks about her arrest in the context of the Patriot Act. The charges she faced had nothing to do with the Patriot Act, and he most seriosu charge was for working as an unregistered lobbyist. There was no Patriot Act component so far as I have been able to see, so including her in the Patriot Act article does not seem appropriate. SpringandFall (talk) 13:28, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Deletion per WP:BLP1E requires that three specified conditions be met. In this instance, #2 is not met. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 14:16, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. #2 is quite satisfied. Lindauer, is extremely likely to remain a low profile individual. Considering the circumstances, any serious source will be unlikely to give her any coverage. Two kinds of pork (talk) 14:30, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. I agree that the conditions for deletion have been met. I see no convincing evidence that Lindauer was a CIA asset other than her own self-published assertions. There is no objective independent source or objective evidence that supports this narrative, and I think there would need to be to keep this article, or even to discuss the subject under the Patriot Act. I also agree with statements others have made that it appears there are some biased editors involved, possibly the subject herself. SpringandFall (talk) 19:02, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:19, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• delete - i dont see significant coverage outside of the arrest incident and there is no indication that the individual is likely ever to be taken more seriously on their claims in the future than they have been to date. and if this were relevant aspect of the Patriot act there would be significant coverage and analysis of it - which there aint. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:49, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]