I merely point something out on the discussion page and user:AdilBaguirov attacks me and my nationality. He then insults my country men as shown here [[1]]

I mention something for academic reasons on Talk:Talysh-Mughan Autonomous Republic and he decides to attack me and insult me by attacking my nationality. Iran's human rights records had nothing to do and no relavancy to the subject at hand. Basically he was telling me to shut up becuase he did not like what I had to say. Good thing I am not a blind nationalist, I am upset though becuase it was clearly a personal attack. I reacted calmly and told him to keep comments directed towards edits and not editors.

It must also be noted that this user has almost consistantly been the subject of conterversal behaviour including uncivil behaviour, disruption, and ongoing edit wars. Here is one example of what he has been up to recently [[2]].

He really needs to cool down and be handled by someone. If the information I have provided needs further clarification, please do not hesitate in contacting me. Thank you. 69.196.164.190

This line is to timestamp this section so that it will be automatically archived. 08:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

What happen?

Somebody set up us the bomb.

We get email.

What !!

Email open.

It's you !!

How are you gentlemen !!

MONGO blanked our article.

You are on the way to vandalism.

What you say !!

The article will survive, waste your time.

Ha ha ha.

Jimbo !!

Delete every article.

You know what you doing.

Delete article.

For great justice...

/me gets hit by cats Will (message me!) 22:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

*mboverload@'s brain explodes due to high-pressure awesomeness*

It seems to be peaceful. But it is incorrect. --Lord Deskana (talk) 23:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Missing one key line, all your article are belong to us. (→Netscott) 23:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That'd be "Mongo blanked our article". But I liked yours better :) Will (message me!) 08:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The original version is here: User:Yelyos/AYB. The image version is somewhere, I can't find it just now. --bainer (talk) 03:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Back to business, the mailer responded to me: I have been unable to report abuse through proper channels. I have tried repeatedly and my comments are removed and I am banned. If I put them on my talk page, it is reverted, locked, and deleted. I have tried multiple times to contact others about this. Even if I ask one single person for help, someone comes along and reverts it and bans me. It took me a endless hours doing it by hand, but I want to help improve wikipedia.

I responded with the following: This issue is being discussed at the following address. Use it, not email. Emailing this issue is absolutely inappropriate. The mass-mailing you did is doubly so, and whatever merits your case might have, you may have irreperably damaged your chances of presenting them to an accepting audience by your methods. Your only chance is to participate in this discussion: (then the link to here). I missed a chance to say "if you do not participate here, you have no chance to survive, make your time". Ah, sadness. Regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 04:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• The email may be getting copied and pasted from this usersubpage...[3]--MONGO 09:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, I'm now going through the permission queue of OTRS, and there's quite a lot of pages which were deleted |after| anyone noticed the permission was given. I think it would be fair to undelete them. Anyone with access to OTRS can check the tickets numbers to see the permissions. I'll list them here:

• Explorium: a Gold Rush game per Ticket#: 2006052510009541

no AFD is busy enough already.Geni 01:22, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delphian Records per Ticket#: 2006060510012858

Apears to have problems with a number of wikipedia policies.Geni 01:22, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Eco diving per Ticket#: 2006052610012909

As a generaly rule articles should not be writen in a question and answer format. Notice a patturn here?Geni 01:22, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Skip Williamson per Ticket#: 2006061010011438
• Bruff R.F.C. per Ticket#: 2006061410017854
• International Peace Operations Association per Ticket#: 2006061510013945
• Tees'n more per Ticket#: 2006062110011257
• Virginia Home for Boys and Girls per Ticket#: 2006062510002812
• URENIO per Ticket#: 2006062510009093
• GOLDEN per Ticket#: 2006062610000769

More to come later :) Thank you! --Timichal _{(I hope this is the right place...)}

I looked at a few of those and they're missing the all important release under the GFDL. Someone can say they're the copyright holder, but they need to clearly state their permission to release under our license or we cannot use the material. The "More specific statement of permission" template is used for these cases. Shell ^babelfish 22:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Articles that were deleted due to copyright violations may simply be re-created. However material copied straight from another website is unlikely to be NPOV or have the right tone. Even if permission is given the material may need to be rewritten. -Will Beback 23:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately I can't see the deleted article content, that's why I request the undeletion here. As for "more specific statement of permission", I'll recheck these tickets and send mails where needed. --Timichal 10:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well I can see the content and as a result there is no way I will be undeleteing it.Geni 09:18, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I brought this up on Wikipedia talk:Username, where I got two responses. However, since administrators are the ones who do the blocking, I'm bringing it here for more discussion.

It is my perception that editors with email addresses for usernames are always blocked, eventually. Such usernames are often blocked before they make a single edit, but all of the rest are blocked once an admin who blocks for this reason notices it.

The username policy currently just discourages the creation of usernames that are email addresses. I propose that such usernames be prohibited so that the username policy matches blocking practice. I think that it is misleading to suggest that such usernames are a bad idea, but that they will not be blocked. Editors who feel misled may leave the project rather than signing up with a new username, since they just joined and have no strong attachment to it yet. The current wording may also create additional work if the account has made some contributions before being blocked and the editor wants to transfer the edits to their new account.

One way of preventing email addresses from being used as usernames would be to technically prohibit @ from being used in usernames. I think that this is the best solution, especially since not all editors read the username policy before choosing a username. However, this would prevent users from using @ in non-email address usernames, like matt@new york. Also, editors may try to use "at" in the place of @ for usernames containing email addresses, like "matt at yahoo.com". If they do this, there is also the question of whether such usernames should be blocked. I think that these problems are relatively minor, though. This technical solution may take a while to implement, if it can be done at all. For now, I suggest that the username policy simply be modified. -- Kjkolb 21:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds pretty fair. We have warned people in the past about not using email addresses for their usernames, and I can see several times a day people doing this very thing. While I have not blocked any of those names in recent memory, it would be a good idea too. As for the edit reassignment, I have no idea how it would work. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 21:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not convinced of the need to block them, it seems to be for their own protection rather than any particular WP issue. However I do think whatever we do we should amend MediaWiki:Signupend to make it clearer that either they aren't allowed or are not a good idea. (They text is way at the bottom and I guess not visible for most unless they scroll down on the signup screen). --pgk^(talk) 21:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see a need to protect users from themselves by blocking them. Leave them a note or an e-mail, make sure they're aware of possible issues, and let them make up their mind to switch if they so desire. I don't believe policy prohibits people from having bad ideas, yet. Preventing new registrations of such is fine; existing ones should be grandfathered.

— User:Adrian/zap2.js 20:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I have re-opened Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diane Kunz which has been closed as keep twice now by VivianDarkbloom in spite of a clear consensus to delete. VivianDarkbloom has also failed to assume good faith in calling the re-openings vandalism. Perhaps someone here can take a look. Kevin 01:00, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only administrators can close AFDs, from what I know. Is VivianDarkbloom one? -- ReyBrujo 01:06, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are a limited set of circumstances under which non-admins may close AfD's, however closing a clear delete as keep isn't one of them. Even and admin closing this one as keep would be improper given the clear consensus to delete. Kevin 01:11, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vivian has made it pretty clear on her user page that she is willing to violate the rules to get her way. To that I say oi vey. --Woohookitty^(meow) 02:26, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict, reply to Kevin) I have just received my weekly lesson about Wikipedia, thanks :) -- ReyBrujo 02:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and closed it as delete, article gone. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 02:56, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The general consensus has been to remove all links to specific fan sites on the GraalOnline article but a group of people including User:Warcaptain User:Di4gram are reverting all change because they want to put advertising link to a forum (UGCC). But they also use GraalOnline critics section to make personal attacks against some administrator of the game. Lot of work has been made by the company managing graalonline and a group of player to make a good and neutral wikipedia article but this group of people banned from the game for not respect rule of conduct are using wikipedia to take a revange and are vandalizing the article. The war will never finish. Can a neutral admin please look at the article and possibly protect the page so we can engage in discussion? Thanks, Bingolice 03:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Informal mediation has been offered and accepted by all the currently-online participants, excluding above (as they are offline at present). Killfest2 ^(Talk) 03:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:84.169.185.88, which I just stumbled across in RC patrol, is rather fascinating in its threats, personal attacks and general unpleasantness... should perhaps be looked at. (Yes, I'm a master of understatement. =P ) Tony Fox (speak) 06:08, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the attacks from his talk page as that was the only place he/she was posting. Leaving a comment too.--MONGO 06:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have blocked the account for a week, just in case. Used only for PA abakharev 06:15, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only one week? How understated. User:Zoe|^(talk) 21:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He has continued making comments on his talk page. I therefore took the liberty of semi-protecting it. JoshuaZ 06:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kramden4700 (talk · contribs) seems to have decided that the longstanding redirect Philadelphia (with over 4000 links to it) should be changed from pointing to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to Philadelphia (disambiguation). Several users (including me) have reverted the edits and attempted to reason with the user. The result has been to expand his/her edits to do the same thing to all the articles that have been used as examples, with no attempt to clean up the thousands of articles that did point (via redirect) to the right article, but would now point to a disambig instead. I have reverted many of these, but seek confirmation if I'm doing the right thing, and what more should be done (by me or others) if it continues. I think the user did not start with intent to vandalise or disrupt, but does not seem to accept reasoned discussion. --Scott Davis ^Talk 08:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The user definitely has an axe to grind with the USA for some reason. I have watchlisted all the redirects mentioned and will revert until a consensus against their current redirect is reached. --mboverload@ 11:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou. I got involved trying to reason with him before I discovered the extent of the issue. --Scott Davis ^Talk 13:52, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This user has also been putting speedy deletion tags on articles to which they obviously don't apply. It's a bit of a grey area, though, because some of them do seem to be used appropriately. Ardric47 23:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The changing of links is continuing at a rapid-fire pace. Also, his or her talk page has been moved to User talk:Kramden4700/1, and a new one started. Ardric47 23:42, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RegExTypoFix (Regular Expression Typographical error Fixer, or WP:RETF) is a set of regular expression strings formatted in the AutoWikiBrowser XML settings style used to automatically fix typos in articles. Anyone who can use AutoWikiBrowser can use RegExTypoFix. It is also easily ported into any application that supports regular expression strings.

This is the official launch of the project, it's been in development and active use by multiple users. I know a lot of admins use AWB, and fixing spelling problems while you do your admin thing is just efficient. It's easily integrated into your existing AWB settings file. So - yay.

It's ready for download from sourceforge.net--mboverload@ 11:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What about when the misspellings are intentional, or not in English, etc.? Ardric47 23:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It skips articles with [sic] in them, and yes, check before you save. --mboverload@ 06:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Caution users to carefully check what they're trying to fix before pressing "Save page" Hbdragon88 01:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wish there were a Macintosh version, AWB seems pretty sweet. -- Kjkolb 08:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Someone signing as Anil Bhoyrul (IP is from UAE) has issued a legal threat [4] regarding the contents of this article. I noticed it while RC patrolling and reverted it. I thought it was the right thing to do but I do not know what the procedure is to deal with the legal threats issue. Regards, E Asterion ^{u talking to me?} 12:25, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The same user who is making the threats is the one who's been adding some childish vandalism to the article. Bar the junk added by that IP range, the article is uncontentious and makes claims supported by the cited sources. The contributor can be blocked either for vandalism or making legal threats (but as he's clearly moving between IPs, only short blocks are currently indicated). -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 12:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Glad to learn that. E Asterion ^{u talking to me?} 13:05, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This case has been closed without a decision because the restrictions on Trey Stone expire in a few weeks. For the Arbitration Committee. --Tony Sidaway 16:17, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am registered in other Wikipedia portals using WikipediaMaster as user name and thought I used the same name in the English portal before, but I don't remember the password, so I tried to get it back by email, but I never get an email with the password and I can't find any other article using this name. What's the reason, and can I or how can I get back into this account? user:WikipediaMaster--217.228.56.168 16:52, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can a admin please check and give me an answer here? Thanks in advance! --217.228.30.190 19:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no email account specified for this username. (see here). Unfortunately if you cannot remember your password, the only thing that can be done is to create a new account. EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 20:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The username arguably falls foul of the username policy in giving the impression of an official capacity, probably best to choose another. --pgk^(talk) 21:03, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But why is it possible to use this name in other Wikipedia portals then? [[5]] --217.228.47.171 21:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Policy varies from wiki to wiki, they aren't uniform. --pgk^(talk) 21:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not only does policy vary, so does the level of enforcement. ---J.S (t|c) 21:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This user is still ignoring messages on his talk page and adding excessive headings to articles. His actions have been brought up before, here and here. Can something be done? I'm getting fed up of reverting him all the time. His talk page has several complaints on it but he continues to ignore them. -- AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents##.7B.7BUser.7CEssjay.7D.7D_block_of_.7B.7BUser.7CCovenantD.7D.7D Steve block Talk 22:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was just asked about undeleting an image. As this is a new policy and I have not done this before, I went looking for guidelines for admins about undeleting images. I didn't find any. If this has been discussed, can someone point me to the discussions? I'm assuming for now that if a single admin deleted an image because it was incorrectly tagged and sourced, another admin could undelete the image if presented with the correct tag and source info. I think this should be handled with a template. If someone wants an image undeleted, they could edit the "Image" page and add the correct tags and source information. They would also post a template {{ImageUndeleteRequest}} which would categorized the image into Category:Requests to undelete images. This way any admin could look at the category, examine the tags and source info and undelete images when appropriate. -- Samuel Wantman 22:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Shougiku Wine (talk • contribs). Circeus 01:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please unprotect User:Daniel.Bryant/GraalOnline, as I (the mediator) am ready to give my mediation statement. Killfest2|Daniel.Bryant ^(Talk) 00:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. -- Longhair 00:55, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Dictyosiphonaceae was deleted at Dictyosiphonaceae's request. However, user talk pages are not normally deleted. I have seen some exceptions when the editor is being harassed, the editor is a vandal who promises to leave if his or her talk page is deleted, the editor wishes to leave and there are only a couple of posts to the talk page, and when the editor is a long-time contributor and the talk page is deleted, or not recreated if the editor is an admin and deleted it, as a favor. Jimbo or another influential person, or an aggressive admin who is a friend, may get involved in the last one to keep it deleted. See this, this, this and this for vandal, long-time contributor and short-time contributor deletions in no particular order. I know of harassment deletions, but did not list them because there is a small chance that it would aid in harassment. Since Dictyosiphonaceae does not meet any of the criteria, I suggest that the talk page be undeleted. Either that, or we make it fair for those without powerful friends and let user talk pages be deleted upon request, unless there is a good reason not to delete the talk page of a particular editor. -- Kjkolb 02:55, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• It did not even apply for {{db-userreq}} requirements. Maybe this user just didn't know how to archive? Since he hasn't edited since, I am venturing he wanted to erase all tracesof hispassage for whatever reason, which does not seem a good reason either. Circeus 03:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just have an open, informal complaint over the apparent use of the rollback feature. Accoridng to Wikipedia:Administrators, it should only be used in cases of simple vandalism and nothing else. But...however...I've recently begun noticing a misuse of the rollback feature, where the case is not simple vandalism, and which the result leads to more confusion and wasted time.

• On May 29, 2006, an anon added four userboxes to WP:DRV. Three administrators deleted them three different times, each one using the sterile "reverted by...to this version..." Now, two of those admins had deleted the four userboxes in question, so I was actually tempted to revert as there was no clear reason why they were removed. I asked on T1 and T2 debates and I got the answer, but why didn't they just mention it in the edit summary, so it would be absolutely clear?

• I added something that I thought was funny to WP:BJAODN. It was reverted by an admin, once again with the sterile rollback summary. When I asked him on his user page, I was told that doing manual rollback took more time and that, because most people didn't ever question his deletsions, that it was a waste of time. Right. It takes like, 15 seconds to write a summary? I think we both wasted more time using the talk page to explain exactly why the edit was removed than if the admin had just taken a few seconds to explain why he didn't think it was funny.

• {{Mario characters}} was the subject of a brief 3RR war between Xeno-Lord (talk · contribs · count) amd A Man In Black (talk · contribs · count). From Xeno-Lord's (and mine, I suppose) point, the template was suddenly and unfairly halved wholesale. Now that I look into it a bit deeper, I see that somebody else deleted it and there was relevent discussion on the CVG talk page, but there was nothing in that talk discussion to indicate that the characters had been dispersed - just deleted. Had AMIB simply pointed to the direct CVG debate in the edit summary, or started a talk page discussion pertaining to why the template was so radically changed, the 3RR would have stopped, or at least AMIB would have been more justified in his use of the rollback tool.

• And finally, the ArbCom decision on Guanco and MarkSweep, a vandalism rollback tool revert war, in which Guanco was desysopped and MarkSweeep "strongly cautioned" to only use the rollback on vandalism.

Hbdragon88 03:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only use the default edit summary on vandalism. Anything more and you just need to write a few words saying why. It's simple and very useful for when people look back at the history of an article. Edit summaries are not just some stupid process thing - it actually helps everyone. --mboverload@ 04:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be best if there were an intermediate step which asked for an edit summary, with a default. It's not always that easy to define simple in the context of vandalism, a bit more explanation would never go amis. Just zis Guy you know? 12:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The same applies to the pop-up tool - which can be set to ask for a editsummary. Maybe make that the default behaviour? Agathoclea 12:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not in favor of an intermediate step. If I'm trying to wipe out a prolific vandal's edits, I already am going to have 30 tabs open with rollbacks in them. We just need to make sure that admins use the tool in the right situations...or leave a note on the rollbackee's page. Unlike some editors, I don't place any negative connotation when seeing the rollback summary. Syrthiss 12:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. I've been asked about the lack of summaries more than once; maybe there should be additional text (like "using popups", but "using rollback") which links to a description of the feature and why it leaves no summary? Or maybe not. Just zis Guy you know? 14:09, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Last 2/3 minutes massive account creation, anyone got tabs on it? (No more bongos 04:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Would these qualify as linkspam? [6].

Of the worst sort - it's a useless spammy ad-infested linkfarm. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 12:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hardvice accidentally gave away his sock FurryiamIAM, who seems to have been engaged in building up an edit count by null edits (and had been warned about this). I've blocked the sock indefinitely and have blocked Hardvice for forty-eight hours, to be lifted if he discloses other socks and promises not to use socks again. --Tony Sidaway 16:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at User:Hardvice's latest edits now that the Encyclopædia Dramatica article has been deleted, he seems to be following the same "null edit" behavior that his sockpuppet User:FurryiamIAM has been demonstrating. Is 48 hours enough? (→Netscott) 16:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another question should the AfDs that his sockpuppet started be left to continue? See Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Hardvice. (→Netscott) 17:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This lends creedence to the notiion that user Rptng03509345 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) who so heavily spammed Wikipedia admins and editors about User:MONGO and the ED article deletion may indeed be a sockpuppet of Hardvice. (→Netscott) 17:17, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how you draw that conclusion, but that guy has a truckload of sockpuppets, so it could be, yeah. --Conti|✉ 17:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly topics discussed and writing pattern that indicates the sockpuppetry nature of the relationship between the spammer account and Hardvice. One can see that User:Hardvice decided to submit all of those Wiki's for deletion under a sockpuppet as a result of this WP:ANI thread. (→Netscott) 17:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at Hardvice's recent edits, it is clear that he was, as Netscott says, using the same null-edit technique as his sock. I surmise that this was so as to inflate his edit count for unknown reasons--which I think we can safely presume to be nefarious. I suggest that a community ban at this stage would be appropriate. --Tony Sidaway 18:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And while we're at it, Donteatmycat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) looks fishy, too. --Conti|✉ 18:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked indefinitely as an obvious Dramatica troll. --Tony Sidaway 18:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with User:Tony Sidaway's community ban proposal. This user is very clearly not here to write an encyclopedia. (→Netscott) 18:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Hardvice appears to support his own banning. (→Netscott) 18:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm about to block this user indefinitely. Any objections? --Tony Sidaway 19:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

None. Okay I'm blocking as a community ban. --Tony Sidaway 21:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I debated an image he had posted on his userpage earlier, and never agreed with the evidence, though I let it go when Raul stated the image wasn't a copyvio. It seemed implausible that someone who got out of jail would rush home the same day or even the next day to upload their own image (a mugshot) on wikipedia. Don't expect this will be the last you see of him though. Oh, and yeah, I support the block...no surprise.--MONGO 21:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support the ban, subject to review if Hardvice ever climbs back off the ceiling over the deletion of ED. Just zis Guy you know? 14:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I heartily endorse this product or service. Accidentally signing his sockpuppet's talk page was hilarious. I loved his edit summary. --Deathphoenix ʕ 14:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

D'oh![7]--MONGO 17:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Someone is looking to make Wikipedia a soapbox for their candidate - User:Pcaruso originally put information on this candidate at Will McBride, over-writing without discussion an existing article on a clearly notable award-winning photographer by that name.[8] After I moved what was verifiable and NPOV of this information to a separate article (Will McBride (candidate)), User:Pcaruso quickly restored the POV pro-candidate spin (removing the sourced, verifiable information in the process).[9] The subject of this article, as a serious candidate for a major party Senate nomination, is notable. His poll numbers are above single digits, his leading competitor for the nomination appears to be faltering, and the articles to which I added links indicate that he has some potentially valuable connections. However, I would like to see an informative NPOV article maintained in this space, and not a campaign ad. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note - User:Pcaruso responded to my admonition with respect to the above with a threat to "end" me.[10] I've blocked him for 24, but I am quite concerned about his tone. bd2412 T 20:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I (User:anomicene) have been accused by admin User:SlimVirgin of wikistalking User:IronDuke[11], and threatened with being blocked[12]. This is partly based on an alleged incident which occurred over two months ago[13]. However, the "wikistalking" edits have been to only two pages (Mike Hawash and Global Relief Foundation), and the edits have not been challenged as NPOV, nor have there been any allegations of personal attacks, and the pattern of edits has not been heavy: on Mike Hawash, one spate of edits every 10-12 days, and on Global Relief Foundation, only one set of edits, uncontested and uncommented-upon. As an aside, User:IronDuke is supporting User:SlimVirgin in the current ArbCom case against her (and others), and thus it might be suggested that SlimVirgin is not unbiased in this case. My question is whether this pattern of editing really meets the definition of "wikistalking". Please comment. -- Anomicene 20:20, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned here is Anomicene's vote here against my position on an article he'd had nothing to do with previously. Also not mentioned here is Anomicene's sock puppet that was used to harass me. IronDuke 20:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This has been discussed on this page before, so I'll try to find the previous one rather than rehash the details. In brief, Ironduke has been stalked by User:Gnetwerker, User:Anomicene, User:Gomi-no-sensei, and possibly User:BlindVenetian, who are either the same person or (as one of them told me by e-mail) an employer and employee(s). One of them posted some personal details about Ironduke, others created attack accounts, and there have been various shenanigans like constantly reverting his edits, changing his user page, and so on, all very immature behavior. The Gomi-no-sensei and BlindVenetian accounts are currently blocked, and the Gnetwerker account has stayed away from the disputed articles, so the only problem left is Anomicene. I asked him a few weeks ago to stay away from articles he can see Ironduke has recently edited, but he recently followed ID to an article the latter had created, so I've told him if he doesn't stay away from ID, this account will be blocked too. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 20:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check user confirmed that Anomicene and Gomi-no-sensei appeared to be the same person. Some details here and at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Gomi-no-sensei. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 20:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've always been curious about this: There was never a checkuser request (or answer) on WP:RFCU. So there is actually no record of this. While I've stipulated that User:Gomi-no-sensei and I work for the same company, behind the same firewall, so it could easily show the same ip, but that situation smacks of the same lack of process as this one. Also, that situation ocurred months ago, and there is no evidence of any harrasment by me since then.

This, however, obscures the basic issue: look at my edits. Is there anything wrong with them? Do they add or detract from Wikipedia? Are IronDuke's automatic reverts (accompanied by screams of harassment) in good faith? Is SlimVirgin's block threat a good faith attempt to solve an actual problem, or wreak some punishment for alleged activities two months ago? -- Anomicene 20:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you stay away from articles edited by ID, there will be no problem. Please just stop being so interested in him, then he'll stop commenting on your behavior, then I can stop leaving you warnings, then we'll all be a lot happier. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 21:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Believe me, I couldn't be less interested in IronDuke. As I've pointed out, you're claiming "wikistalking" when I've edited exactly two of his many, many articles. -- Anomicene 21:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SlimVirgin, can you show some examples of problem edits? There shouldn't be a probelm if Amonicene and IronDuke are just editing some of the same articles as long as the contents of the edits isn't abusive.130.15.164.81 21:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Slim is claiming wikistalking on the basis of the edits a group of accounts that have been harassing me, including User:Gnetwerker, User:BlindVenetian and User:Gomi-no-sensei (not to mention countless edits from anonymous IPs all originating from the same area). These are, according to you, your boss and colleagues, respectively. And then you picked up where the anonymous IP's left off after Mike Hawash was sprotected. I really would count yourself lucky there's not been a ban on all those accounts yet. You say you aren't interested in me, and yet you keep following me. It's not hard to avoid articles I'm working on. It really isn't. IronDuke 21:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, out of the past 119 edits or so you've made over the last two months, roughly 110 of them have been to articles I've been editing (before you), articles I have created, talk I have participated in (in which you had no interest previously), or you've left messages urging sanctions against me or concerning me. In this time period, you've done little with this account other than harass me with it, roughly %93 of your edits. IronDuke 00:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The previous comment is a malicious lie, and should be evidence of IronDuke's vendetta against me, not the other way around. I have made 191 edits since I've been on Wikipedia, involving 51 different pages, 41 of them in the main article space, and only 10 in Talk, User, and Wikipedia. 45 edits have been made to Mike Hawash, 24 to Talk:Mike Hawash, and 5 edits to Global Relief Foundation, the only pages under question here. The balance of non-article space edits have simply been responding to IronDuke's constant whining to admins about the non-existant "stalking". Get your numbers right. -- Anomicene 00:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Read my post again, please. "Last two months." IronDuke 00:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Then let's be accurate. Since June 15, I have edited Mike Hawash, with only minor exceptions, none of them involving you, until July 18, when I made one set of edits to Global Relief Foundation, on which you had not been active for some time. The edits in question are NPOV, and have been retained. The remaining small number of edits were a request for mediation (you refused) and responses to your scurrilous accusations. -- Anomicene 01:08, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you mean by "accurate." I wasn't talking about June 15, I was using your edits starting with May 14, when you first left a message on the Gnetwerker account's talk page apprising him that he had "a problem." But fine, let's take June 15. Starting from your date and going to the time I wrote the above numbers, and using my criteria above (all of your edits that stalked/followed/complained about me), the ratio remains the same, this time 106 edits, 8 of which having nothing to do with me: roughly 93% of your edits are focused on me or the work I've done. This is a very, very bad percentage. Even half this number would be cause for grave concern. I also notice that you keep glossing over a telltale edit you made, perhaps you can say what it was that drove you to vote in this renaming poll (with which you had nothing previously to do), and to vote against me? IronDuke 01:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to have an aversion to criticism that you wrap in claims of stalking. Your endless commentary continues to try to mask one clear fact: I edited two articles involving you during the period in question. My edits were NPOV, WP:RS, and have withstood scrutiny. Your corresponding edits were mostly blind reverts, with the tag "rv stalker". Your main objection seems to be that I haven't allowed you to WP:OWN those two articles. That you have an admin going along with your outrageous "stalking" claim is what is really absurd. -- Anomicene 17:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anomicene, please stop posting about this. ID, it's also a good idea for you not to respond. The point, Anomicene, is that two edits to articles by someone else are not the same as two edits by you. You've been accused of being part of a campaign of harassment. By rights, you shouldn't still be editing. I believe that any innocent editor would stay away from Ironduke in order to make sure they weren't viewed as part of the nonsense. That you keep thrusting yourself into it does not speak well of you. Please stop thinking about, talking about, writing about, and editing with Ironduke. If you think the allegations are unfair and ridiculous, fine, but stay away from him anyway. The longer you stay away, the more people might end up agreeing with you. But the more you go on about it, the more it looks as though are you, indeed, obsessed, so you're shooting yourself in the foot somewhat. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 17:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since my name was drug into this above: SlimVirgin, it is one thing to issue a unilateral admin edict that I stay away from "IronDuke's pages" (whatever that means). I have and will do so (for a reasonable period of time, not necessarily defined by you). However, trying to prevent me from seeking the community's (and other admins') opinion on the matter goes too far. I have not been party to harassment of IronDuke, and I'm not interested in your (biased) opinion of what an "innocent editor" would do. At this point I am less interested in IronDuke than in your unilateral and out-of-process actions in support of him (and of course his support of you in the current ArbCom case). -- Gnetwerker 18:08, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see that Anomicene has just posted above as Gnetwerker by mistake. [14] 'Nuff said. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And quickly added "Since my name was drug into this above ..." when he realized his mistake. [15] SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree that editing 2 articles with non-abusive edits isn't wiki-stalking. The sockpuppetry used to harrass another user clearly isn't acceptable. He should stay away from IronDuke, but he also shouldn't be called a stalker either, there just isn't enough of a pattern or behaviour in the edits to warrant it unless there is more evidence somewhere. I'd point out that all edits to articles are articles that involve someone else unless you create it.--Crossmr 17:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See above for the evidence. Gnetwerker/Anomicene just made the classic sockpuppet mistake of forgetting who he was logged in as. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which is why I think he should stay away from him. But is there actual evidence that he's following him to articles and undoing his edits or otherwise damaging the articles? There is a difference. And if you suspect Gnetworker is a sockpuppet, please follow the proper procedure for verifying it, rather than just making the claim here. I'm not saying he's not. I'd just feel more comfortable with a check user to be sure. And if that is the case, then perhaps some further action may be warranted here.--Crossmr 18:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check user has already confirmed that they appear to be the same person, but Gnetwerker insisted that Anomicene was his employee, which explained the IP evidence. However, see above, where one posted as the other by mistake; there's no explaining that away too. This has been going on for months, Crossmr, with multiple accounts and anon IPs and it has to stop. I've blocked Anomicene as a sockpuppet, and Gnetwerker for a violation of WP:SOCK by pretending to be two people. See User_talk:Anomicene#Blocked. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah okay, yes that is rather obvious then. While it may have been on going for months this discussion was new and there seemed to be a lot of information being left out which was why I asked for more information here. --Crossmr 18:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 21:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to get some external input on Talk:Pella Palace. The dispute has to do with his insistent removal of an image caption, as ridiculous as it may sound. I am suspecting that Ghirla is either reverting me out of pure spite for the block I gave him back on July 7 or due to his complete inability to accept that he doesn't have editorial fiat over articles. Note that with this revert (without any given justification whatsoever, too), he has violated the 3RR, too, after reverting my edit 3 times, which has been duely reported. His insistance that I justify my edit with policy is laughable at best, as it is the reverter's duty to provide justification other than the "whimsicality" of the edit. Circeus 20:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, there was no 3RR violation, let's just get the facts straight to begin with. Circeus in his "3RR report" lumped up the edits from 4 days to come up with four reverts. While, any number of reverts over any period of time is ideally too many, care is need as each case is different

Besides, Circeus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)' summary above is not complete and one-sided. First of all, Ghirla's argument is not laughable, even if Circeus claims so. Second, Circeus forgets to give a full context of their previous skirmish, the edit conflict (not flawless by both parties) which Circeus "won" in the end of the day by simply blocking an opponent. The nearest to the detailed description of that conflict could be found in the archive of this board at:

• Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive52#Hasty Blocking by Some Administrators
• Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive50#Third opinion please. --

--Irpen 20:38, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can see, the caption that Circeus wants to add and Ghirlandajo wants to remove is a comment Ghirlandajo added when he [16] uploaded the image in the first place. It is completely beyond me why a text he wrote in the first place would now be unacceptable as a caption, and I think Ghirlandajo is the one that should give a good reason not to include it and not the other way around. Fram 20:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have admited that the 3RR report was mistakenly done: Ghirla's first revert occured on July 21, although most of the reverting occured today. I will continue tostand by my July 7 block. That Ghirla's attitude can be sanctionned by his edits (the quality and quantity of which I certainly won't deny) is beyond me. He is regurlarly uncivil (when not threading near personal attacks) and constantly maintain strict dogwatch over articles he works on, in adition to his general confrontational attitude. Those are the gripes I have with him, and I am not the only one to have found his a stressful editor to deal with. Circeus 21:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it might be better to submit such things to a review first. Like Irpen rightfully pointed out in one of his threads, that was considered a good reading by some people, such kind of actions must be reviewed first, preferably by a third party, instead of making a hasty 3RR report that turns out (in good faith of course) to be a simple revert.

Incidentally, even if the block you're mentioning about is old, it still created a precedent, because it raises the utility of a review. Maybe a review would prevent all this story... :( -- Grafikm ^(AutoGRAF) 21:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think I am seeking third opinions in this matter before it escalates further? Circeus 21:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"This is a good thing" (tm) :) -- Grafikm ^(AutoGRAF) 21:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Panairjdde has returned now in the form of User:Ahrarara. He or she is stalking every single article from my contribs list right now and deleting AD anywhere and everywhere. Please stop or warn him or her. Thanks. ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 22:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He was blocked again, thanks, but note that he is currently wreaking havoc yet again with an edit warring anon, User:151.44.81.169, on the very same articles stalked from my July contribs, multiple 3RRs here ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 01:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Loath I am to do it, I have blocked the entire 151.44. range for an hour -- which affects not only the editor formerly known as Panairjdde (TEFKAP) but some 65,000-odd other people. However, he has been stalking or edit-warring not only with Codex Sinaiticus, but at leat 2 other editors. I'm gambling on the fact that the users of an Italian ISP aren't interested in editting an English Wikipedia, & as long as no one complains, we can repeat this until TEFKAP gives up. (He has also used the 151.47. range -- but let's wait until we see what kind of trouble I've caused before blocking that one also.) I won't protest if another Admin reverts the block. -- llywrch 23:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gil_Gutknecht edits, Gutknecht01 (talk · contribs) last edit comment "Edited on the authority of Congressman Gil Gutknecht's Office". Oviosuly POV edits, I don't wanna touch this issue with a 10 ft pole. Can someone step in and revert and leave this guy a good message? -Ravedave 21:26, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathunder (talk · contribs) reverted but left no message. Anyone wanna handle that part? I think this matter should be handled with care. -Ravedave 22:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I left a message. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 22:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do we really want to take the word of a newbie that they are whom they claim to be? What if it's Gutknecht's opponents trying to make him and his staff look bad? User:Zoe|^(talk) 23:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AGF, also it can't hurt to treat the person with respect lest they decide they want to sue WP. -Ravedave 01:04, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have an harassing anonymous IP. It is 152.163.100.72. I have tried to be polite and patient. It has not worked. My patience runs thin. The user has vandalized my talkpage by pictures of penises and anuses. The user is abusive. The user makes false claims that I am an addict. In the interest of not biting the newbies, I tried to engage the user in civil discourse to no avail. The histories of the last week speak for themselves:

• - [17]
• - [18]

¡Thanks!

—

— Ŭalabio‽ 23:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've responded to this editor's appeal. Help in dealing with the personal attacks on him would be welcome. --Tony Sidaway 19:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This arbitration case is closed, and the final decision has been published at the link above.

• Raphael1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) is banned from editing Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy and its talk page and related articles for one year.
• Raphael1 is placed on Probation for one year. He may be banned by any administrator from any page which he disrupts by tendentious editing, edit warring, or incivility. All bans are to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1#Log of blocks and bans.
• Raphael1 is placed on general Probation. Any three administrators for good cause may ban him from Wikipedia for an appropriate period of time. All bans are to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Raphael1#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.

For the Arbitration Committee. --Tony Sidaway 23:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could an experienced admin update Did You Know? within the next 2 hours, since it is currently 10 hours since the last update? Cheers, Highway ^{Return to Oz...} 23:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. BTW, HighwayCello, thanks for helping keeping T:DYKT clean, it's really quite appreciated -- Samir धर्म 23:16, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's fine, I have nothing better to do. ;) Highway ^{Return to Oz...} 23:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

poke poke. I would, but I've never done it before and my "you'll screw it up" paranoia is kicking my ass. Syrthiss 15:15, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's fine, it's the middle of the night, no one will notice. ;) BTW, can someone FIupdate DYK again? (Give Samir a break ;) Highway ^{Return to Oz...} 23:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Already done. And please... don't feel bad about updating. That's what WP:ERROR is for. Things can always be tweaked or fixed later. Just follow the guide and the instructions at the top of the suggestion page and you'll do fine. :-) --LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 23:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ferick I need someone to clear my account and unblock me once and for all. I am getting sick and tired of this. Nobody seems to care. I have no been blocked for over a week for no apparent reason pleading my case with administrator after administrator. Is anybody in charge here?24.31.228.254 06:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody is "in charge". It doesn't work that way. You could try to appeal to User:Jimbo Wales is you would like. --Woohookitty^(meow) 10:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it would be better to appeal to the arbitration committee, but since you're unblocked now it seems that the issue is resolved. Stifle (talk) 10:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have placed an extended (one month) block on Justforasecond (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log) for his continued disruption on Kwanzaa and other articles. This user's behavior was first reported at the end of last year on AN/I, and he has continued a low-grade campaign of edit warring and disruption since, incurring regular blocks. In this most recent round, I gave him a clear, blunt warning that continued edit warring would result in an extended block. He continued, and I blocked him for a month. I realize this is a very long block, but this user has shown little to no willingness to cease disrupting the encyclopedia. I am hoping a break will convince him that our rules are not optional.

I waffled between giving him a shorter block, such as two weeks, and the monthlong block, but finally decided to try to drive the point home sharply once before taking this to Arbcom. I will not reverse any administrator who changes or shortens the block, but I do urge you to look carefully at this user's edit history before doing so. Nandesuka 12:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with block. - FrancisTyers · 12:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support, this user is highly disruptive. KillerChihuahua^?!? 13:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Considering Justforasecond's repeated harrassment of User:Deeceevoice, one may want to question his agenda. User:Zoe|^(talk) 15:59, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He's been unblocked by CBDunkerson (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) after promising to avoid Kwanzaa, but for the looks of this it doesn't look like the block taught him a damned thing. --Calton | Talk 00:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Too bad. I, for one, am tired of JFAS's antics. IMO, he richly deserved the one-month block. It's amazing that in an exchange w/another admin he portrays himself as the victim of a conspiracy, somehow persecuted by my "supporters" -- when it is quite clear he's the one who stalked me around the website. What's even more amazing is that the admin bought it. deeceevoice 14:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Justforasecond contacted me via email and asked that his block be lifted, because it was interfering with all of the other employees at his place of work. He pledged in that email that, if he was unblocked, he would abide by the month's block and not edit during that time. I see that, now that he's unblocked, he's editing again and attacking the admin who blocked him. So much for good faith. User:Zoe|^(talk) 15:41, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Without commenting on the merits of the block or unblock, I just wanted to say, for the umpteenth time: Criticism is not the same as an attack. Treating criticisms like attacks is the cause of much disagreement and undesirable drama. We all need to be very careful to cleanly distinguish these two different concepts in our own minds. Friday (talk) 15:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zoe, I asked you to unblock me and you didn't do it. If you had unblocked me I would have gone on a break but, in spite of my truly desperate pleas, you didn't. Thankfully another admin did unblock me, but without those conditions. So no, this is not a violation of good faith, but maybe a lack of assuming it. I am perfectly within my rights here to question what I see as an overly long, illegitimate block and you are welcome to comment on why it was the correct length, called for. I'm not an admin here so I don't have as much experience in these matters, but the cases I have seen, unquestionably nasty users have not received blocks anywhere near that long. I also put a very clear "spoiler" notice on my page saying not to read the request for an advocate it if you were concerned about incivility, etc. Justforasecond 21:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea why but Socafan (talk · contribs) is waging a one-man war to spin the doping allegations against Lance Armstrong in the most damaging light possible. He's also intent on stating in David Walsh (sports reporter) that Armstrong lost an appeal to have the Sunday Times publish a rebuttal of the source of an article which the court found to be libellous because it implied that the sources were true. I don't see that appeal as having any relevance unless it would be usual for such a remedy to be granted by the courts; I know of no instance where it has even been asked for but I guess it must be - I know that an apology in the paper is usually as much as you get, as a long-time follower of Private Eye. As stated, it makes it sound as if Armstrong lost the case (and Socafan apparently believes that the case substantially vindicates Walsh, despite his losing the libel suit, see Talk:David Walsh (sports reporter)).

I am now involved in this, having originally come to it purely as a WP:BLP problem, and I might just be taking against Socafan because he is so relentless in pushing his personal views, including guilt-by-association and other innuendo in the article. Socafan clearly believes that there is only one neutral version: his. I don't think it is neutral, and Armstrong has already successfully sued the Sunday Times for implying that Armstrong is guilty, which worries me quite a bit. SOme extra eyes would be appreciated. Just zis Guy you know? 15:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have been watching the article for quite awhile, you're not alone. --mboverload@ 19:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to come down on this one and say that the people who first identified this editor as a sock were correct. His endless trolling bears this out and he needs to be terminated. I propose that we block him indefinitely. I don't see useful output that would justify the time we spend on this guy's troublesome behavior. --Tony Sidaway 19:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am greatly relieved to hear it - I was beginning to think it was just me being paranoid. I support whatever action terminates his disruption, but of course by now I am not neutral so I don't think it would be right to block him myself. Perhaps I should have just applied the nuclear option to start with, but I got in enough trouble as it was. Just zis Guy you know? 20:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all, CAT:CSD is badly backlogged (200+ items), could a few people take a look? Stifle (talk) 17:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, like we don't need more admins... =( --mboverload@ 19:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright backlogs are awful. CSD is nothing in comparison. We need more admins badly. - CrazyRussian talk/email 19:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well admins willing to do the shitwork. My RfA failed so you're screwed =D --mboverload@ 22:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've got a simple way to clear copyright backlogs ... just delete the copyvios on sight. That's what I've started to do. Rather than going through the rigamarole of tagging it and then waiting seven days, I just delete them immediately. --Cyde↔Weys 22:36, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

mboverload@ gives Cyde a Hero button

Rather than using the copyvio tag I just put it up for speedy saying it's a copyvio. It works. --mboverload@ 00:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A8 limtis you to 48 hours for doing that.Geni 01:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm in the same situation as Mboverload, I'm willing to do that kind of work but with no adminship (and currently nobody volunteering to renom me) I guess you guys are out of luck. Pegasus1138^{Talk | Contribs | Email} ---- 03:18, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe =D. I know someone will renominate me, but right now the last thing I want to go through is another RfA slap-a-thon. --mboverload@ 05:27, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well I think a willingness to do CSD type tasks should definitely be considered a plus on an admin candidate but that's just one user's opinion. Pegasus1138^{Talk | Contribs | Email} ---- 03:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I got an email sent through RogerHorne that was pure harassment. Is there any way to disable the email ability for abusive sockpuppets or other community banned recognized editors?--MONGO 18:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's been suggested, but has yet to be implemented. Can you block his emails from getting through to you, or, failing that (and even if you succeed at that), contact his service provider about harrassment? Be sure to include all of the headers in the email so they'll listen to you. User:Zoe|^(talk) 18:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I simply didn't reply to protect my email address from being reveiled to that person. Maybe I should submit another request with the developers. The email was sent through an anonymous email that can be set up by anyone, but my guess is that since the RogerHorne name was in the email address, it's just willy doing his thing.--MONGO 19:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Would another admin please review my closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Votes for deletion (2nd nomination) per concerns by User:Kusma expressed here? Feel free to revert/undeleted/unprotect my actions without notice. - CrazyRussian talk/email 19:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Kusma; a {{deletedpage}} is about the worst possible solution to this, replacing a useful selfref with an arcane and confusing selfref. Delete, fine, if that was the consensus, but leave as a redlink (and watchlist, if you're worried about it coming back). I can't conceive of any use for protecting a deleted redirect that isn't speediable (i.e. it's an attack redirect, like nigger music). -- nae'blis _(talk) 20:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose we could just redlink it and use something like User:Cyde/XNR to track it. But if it keeps getting repeatedly recreated, at some point, it's just a huge waste of time to keep deleting it and the {{deleted page}} needs to come out again. --Cyde↔Weys 22:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have now re-deleted {{deleted}} per request made at WP:DRV. Thanks to all. - CrazyRussian talk/email 23:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! If consensus is against CNRs (seems it's going that way), listing the more popular ones on a central page where it's easy to make sure they stay deleted (and warning the people re-creating them) is a good idea. I don't think it will be too much work, and (especially if there is a clear policy to point to) it will die down over time. Kusma (討論) 07:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I remember someone saying that there is some way for admins to tell if an article is on no watch lists. However, I've attempted to figure out how to do this, and have to say I've stumped. I've looked over the admin reading and can't find it there either. Is this a case of stupidity or delusion? If stupidity, I would appreciate being told how to do it. If delusion, then, well, feel free to make fun of me. JoshuaZ 04:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

<points and laughs> Special:Unwatchedpages </pointing and laughing> I don't believe it supports searching, however, and only lists 1000 pages. The devs could probably be encouraged to make it searchable with a sufficient amount of cookies, however. Essjay (Talk) 04:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. JoshuaZ 02:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cookies, barnstars, and monetary inducement... oh my. Pegasus1138^{Talk | Contribs | Email} ---- 03:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am an avid contemporary art collector, and also work for the St. Louis Art Museum. One of my late colleages, Ramsey K. Kohlfinger--created the original article entitled "Joe Wood"--which gave a brief and unbiased summary of the Artist/Author Joe Wood, a native of St. Louis, Missouri.

The article was accurate, informative, and a must for those whom wish to have a general reference on this particular artist, whom has sold his work abroad as far as Sydney, Austrailia, and has his work in galleries from New York to his native St. Louis. As a collector, I too can appreciate the need for in the very least--a short biographical summary for individuals who are not only popular or successful, but create new tangents in the history of art.

Wood created a new style (a word artists usually hate) by mixing elements of retro 40s Deco, 80s graffiti, and 30s regionalism and incorporating it into a new abstract expressionist AND impressionist STYLE, yet all original.

A recent statement by a fellow collector/art critic in Brooklyn NY says it all, "Woods art is both homey and intelligent; it says truthful things, and asks hard questions we dont want to ask."

At the very least, the content of my late friend's article should also compel you of the noteworthiness by its additional and equally valid warrant of Mr. Wood's work in the world of books/African-American Revisionist History. Mr. Wood is also a writer, who has written pieces locally as a freelance editorial columnist, and has brought attention to the subject of lynching in his work, UGLY WATER, 2006--which sheds light on a forgotten lynching in St. Louis, MO, and questions the validity of traditionally taught Afro-American history.

Mr. Kohlfinger could and probably did do a better job of summing up the subject of the article that was deleted recently from wiki; JOE WOOD. But I am asking that this article be restored, and given proper respect as a valid and credible entry of a contemporary person of considerable merit. Although I don't personally own any of Mr. Wood's pieces, I know that Guy Tozzoli, of the World Trade Center Assoc. and Larry Silverstein Properties--is currently considering pieces from Mr. Wood to be installed in the new WTC site FREEDOM TOWER. I know of many other high-end art dealers who would vouch for this artists ability and note.

All in all, I ask that the article "Joe Wood" be restored, and if edits need to be done to improve the quality of the article, I can assure you that it will be done, if given the possibility.

Thank you for your consideration.

Respectfully,

Qiana Feemster St. Louis Ars Poetica Society

This is quite confusing indeed. Parisianartcollector (talk · contribs) is the editor who added the following text to the article when it was recreated:

Joe Wood

Inventor of the Wiki Administrator

Born: 1977

George Bush is a Great President.

I fail to understand what is the point of the above comment, given Parisianartcollector (talk · contribs)'s above edit to the article. --Ragib 06:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Qiana Feemster? The only Google hits for "Qiana Feemster" are in association with reviews of "Joe Wood"'s self-published book. And there are zero Google hits for "Ars Poetica Society", St. Louis or otherwise. All Google hits for '"Luna Studios" "joe wood"' are its own site, or self-publicity sites. All Google hits for "Futuro-Regionalism" are Wikipedia mirrors. Even the Joe Wood flack articles don't mention it. User:Zoe|^(talk) 15:43, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This user continues to place notices on my user page that I am a suspected impersonator of another user. He also makes derogatory comments in violation of wikipedia guidelines against making personal attacks against other users, in the edit descriptions.

• 1st - Makes comment '(hello sock!)'
• 2nd - Makes comment '(hello again, sock.)'
• 3rd - Makes comment '(socks can run, but not hide)'

User has also been blocked for 3rr and other similar abuse infractions on a number of other occasions.

Request this user be blocked from making any further edits to my user page. Thank-you.Kjlee 08:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request that Lightbringer's latest WP:RFCU be expedited so he can start picking his next open proxy username.--SarekOfVulcan 15:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll second SarekOfVulcan's recuest, and would like to add the following:

• Kjlee is a suspected sockpuppet of the banned user Lightbringer - his MO fits the description on Lightbringers subpage on WP:LTA to a tee.
• Kjlee convinienly forgets to mention his 'edit' (near vandalism or vandalism) to my userpage...
• As anyone who can check my block log can see, I've been blocked for a 3RR violation excatly once - and that was for loosing my head in a revert war (I know, me bad) with a previous sockpuppet of Lightbringer on, AFAIR, the Freemasonry article.

But then, bending the truth and straight out lies are things we have come to expect of Lightbringer and his socks... WegianWarrior 18:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You still shouldn't have made those edits IMO. I don't see how they contribute positively in any way. If he's a sock, wait for RFCU to identify it as so or ask an admin to block it... No need to feed the trolls. Sasquatch t|c 19:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm... then what's the point of having the {{sockpuppet}} template at all, if you're not supposed to use it? It does provide a positive service: it lets other editors know that these contributions might be questionable -- especially since Lightbringer has been banned for a year and shouldn't be editing at all.--SarekOfVulcan 20:43, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove the page Provincial emergency program. It is a duplicate from the Provincial Emergency Program site.

I have made a redirect from the former to the latter. However, is this really the only program by the name - what are the other provinces corresponding programs called? Morwen - Talk 09:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a closing date for the poll on Talk:Władysław II Jagiełło? The thing has been going for ages (since June) with pretty much the same result and no-one has come to close it. I asked this on the appropriate page, but no-one answered Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 11:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I closed the poll, moved the article and am in the process of fixing the double redirects. There is a ton of them. -- Kjkolb 12:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should Diana Bianchi be deleted? WAS 4.250 12:18, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, yes, it should be deleted. However, it survived an AfD nomination that just closed. I suggest renominating it after a few months, with a refined argument based upon the experience of the first nomination, or when there is a new development that has a significant chance of affecting the outcome. -- Kjkolb 12:27, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Those admins handling speedy deletions these days have probably noticed a lot of pages tagged with {{db-noncom}} and {{Permission from license selector}}. I just wanted to say, in case anyone wasn't checking, these pages should not be deleted too quickly after they're uploaded: new users uploading an image for the first time will probably take a little while to figure out what to replace the bad license tag with and how to do that. Mangojuice^talk 15:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone tell me how to deal with the anonymous edits on this page Lloyd Monserratt. --evrik 15:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• It's been documented. Both of you need to watch 3RR though. Sasquatch t|c 19:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• SarekofVulcan and I were not in any danger of a 3RR. I was referring to the anonymous edits and the lack of response to my comments on the talk page.

At 10:48 this morning I made the above request. I was really disappointed to see Zoe nominate the article for deletion six minutes later. This really leaves a sour taste in my mouth, and reaffirms my opinion about how poorly things work on wikipedia. I asked for help, and got an afd and a 3rr notice. Wow. --evrik 21:12, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It wouldn't have come to my attention if you hadn't brought it up here, but a non-notable bio is a non-notable bio, no matter where someone might encounter it. Should I have left what is, in my opinion, a speedy deletion candidate just because you talked about it here? User:Zoe|^(talk) 01:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shiny Shoe Music has been withdrawn; can someone please close the issue? Thanks! (But please don't delete the VFD page: the discussion is needed.)—msh210℠ 16:12, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked recently (by me) for disruptive behavior including attempting to rebuild a deleted article on his user page, this editor continues to generate serious reports concerning his bad behavior. I've given him a seven-day holiday. Would a longer block be more appropriate? --Tony Sidaway 19:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He has a long history of disruption and incivility (at least). I would not object to a longer block. Tom Harrison ^Talk 19:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because of this complaint I've reduced the block period to 24 hours. I still think this editor may not be good for Wikipedia. All comments welcome. --Tony Sidaway 22:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What deleted article did he try to rebuild? Could we get an example or recent problem edits?--Crossmr 22:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Per CrazyRussian's request, I am posting this here as well as Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion. I am proposing that we post a notice directly at the top of the AfD page that informs and educates editors about their other options. The current iteration of the notice is here, and I have opened a discussion about it. The primary reasons are that:

• AfD is getting too many listings that can and should be elsewhere.
• The excess of listings are not being efficiently or thoroughly discussed, resulting in re-listings and other problems.

I believe we can alleviate the situation by educating editors. For consolidation's sake, please comment here if you are so-inlined. Thanks! --Aguerriero (talk) 20:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think FURSECUTION 4EVA! is a vandalism/abuse only account to attack people associating as "furries". Has blanked Raccoon Fox's userpage once already. Viridae^Talk 23:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked indef, thanks Naconkantari 23:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problems. Viridae^Talk 23:28, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Codex Sinaiticus removed twice (diff 1, diff 2) the suspected sockpuppet tag from his talk page. After the first time, (s)he was warned.--151.47.119.2 23:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above post was made by yet another IP sock of User:Panairjdde, who also created the User:CodexVaticanus sock and is skirting a block on edit warring. ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 23:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to stalking all my recent contribs and edit warring them to totally remove all AD's, Panairjdde, who was blocked and has switched to using 151.47 IP's, has repeatedly placed a spurious notice to his sockpuppet User:CodexVaticanus on my talk page. Please help! ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 00:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Based on this edit, one of three after a break of almost six months, I have indef-blocked this user as a sockpuppet of Marytrott. See users' contribs and here for evidence, and please feel free to review. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 23:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's an inappropriate username, anyway. User:Zoe|^(talk) 01:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've got an anon user who seems to enjoy making repeated allegations that I've insulted them or others in some fashion (diffs: [19], [20], [21]), despite my never having done anything of the kind (the closest was a comment "what is it with guys and gay jokes?" :). Does this false attribution constitute a personal attack by implication? And given that their address seems to be a roaming IP (dialup?) is there anything to be done about it? Thanks in advance, Ziggurat 23:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked the most recent one for trolling... not much we can do on dynamic IPs though. Sasquatch t|c 00:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, but I think that User talk:88.110.25.215 is the current IP being used. Just to satisfy my curiosity, *is* this a personal attack? Something else? S/he seems to be currently pulling something similar with User:JD_UK. Ziggurat 00:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there, my name is Nick, my username is Potters house and I have encountered a problem with trying to provide any information about Johnny Lee Clary. I have posted this post off to other staff members also. I am not sure if this is the best route to resolve this, but can think of no other way.

The article Johnny Lee Clary has been deleted. I have known Johnny through telephone conversations and email for a short time now (about 3-4 months). He recently came and shared his life story in for our church group for the first time just two weeks ago. Before I met Johnny I became interested in his story i.e. his conversion from the head of the KKK in the US, to being a Christian Minister who now teaches against race hate groups. I found the article Johnny Lee Clary as it still is today, deleted, except for some small talk. If you read the talk you see what I have said at the time (notice I have gotten no reply, probable my fault as I don’t know heaps about WIKI policy). From my understanding Johnny Lee Clary was posting as The KingOfDixie and looks like he tried to change a few things on Wiki concerning the KKK. While this is a controversial subject, Johnny being the former leader of the KKK would probably know a thing or two and be able to contibute, but that’s another story. He eventually made an article about himself i.e. Johnny Lee Clary. Johnny being quite new to Wiki and ignorant of rules of conduct found himself at odds with some admins and had his site deleted.

Whilst observing Johnny over the last 3-4 months I have noticed that he is very outspoken against race hate groups such as the Neo Nazis, Skinheads, KKK etc. This, more often than not, lands Johnny in the hot seat. He has experienced persecution from racist groups for his departure from the KKK and voiced opinions against these racist organizations on his webpage, www.xkkk.org. Johnny has also received multiple death threats.

Because of his bold stance against these racist groups Johnny has become accustomed to hatred directed at him by those same groups. Johnny concluded that perhaps the guy who deleted the page Johnny Lee Clary was a white supremist. I am hoping to clear this up. Before he told me this, I started to create J L Clary, after hearing nothing from posting in user talk on Johnny Lee Clary's article. I wasn't 10 minutes into the J L Clary article when it was issued a deletion notice, and then before I had time to reply (about 5 minutes) it was deleted! I was amazed. I told this to Johnny and he said the main reason he was told that he couldn't have an article was because he was not prominent enough.

Johnny has a very famous testimony and has been on multiple TV shows like Oprah, Donahue, Jerry Springer, etc, and even recently when he preached in our town he made front page news, a double spread on his life, and the local ABC interviewed him live, which is not bad for our town (LISMORE NSW Australia) See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history .

When David Wilkerson came to our town hardly anyone knew or cared, yet David Wilkerson is allowed an article (and rightfully so), but more people know of Johnny. As to whether he is famous or not, just Google search him and see all the TV interviews and radio interviews he does. He hangs with some of the most prominent Christian leaders in Australia. Besides this, just being the former KKK leader should be enough for an article (he doesn't even get a mention in the KKK one, and would be deleted). He was also a Pro Wrestler. So he is prominent in Christian circles, he is prominent amongst race hate groups, and he is also prominent in the WWE wrestling.

Johnny asked me to test the waters for him to see if he was being persecuted by someone from a race hate group. So I created some sites, John Clary Wade Watts and Operation Colorblind - the name of Johnny's Ministry. These have been fine until yesterday. I cannot understand why these sites are just issued a deletion notice? Just because they mention JLC? I was hoping to discuss these things but they are just deleted. The one on Wade Watts is about a black gospel preacher who was one of the leaders in the civil rights movement in the US and was good friends with Martin Luther King. He took Johnny Clary under his wing and even ordained Johnny as a minister (to this day Johnny is the only white man ordained in the All Black Baptist Church). But his article is up for deletion because I mentioned Clary and had a link.

That is why I am writing to you to see if you can help. It seems to me that the person(s) deleting all articles which even mention Johnny Lee Clary has an agenda. I thought that wikipedia admins had to keep a neutral stance on every article. It seems like this guy has a vendetta against JLC. Why delete the Wade Watts article. That is guilt by association and could be proof that all deletions are because of racial discrimination! I hope this is not the case and would think that it is politically motivated, as Johnny is a strong supporter of George Bush and Antaeus Feldspar of Kerry.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history This shows how Antaeus Feldspar supports Kerry, which is fine, but Johnny is a strong supporter of Bush.

My hope is that Johnny will be able to have an article like any other famous person, minister, former KKK leader, or pro wrestler, and that Johnny and anyone connected with him and his ministry will in future have certain rules set in place that do not allow the wholesale deletion of the articles associated with him, but that they will be at least discussed.

I thank you for reading this long winded post. I have only been using WIKI for about a year myself so I need your help, I don't really know what else to do. I hope you can help. I personally think that Johnny's story is one that is beneficial to the cause of reconciliation between races and to the3 unity of society as a whole. It would be a shame if WIKI became known for having covert racists. Of course I hope that this is a misunderstanding and that all will be cleared up soon.

Here are some links that might help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Watts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheKingOfDixie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Colorblind

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Threeafterthree

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Potters_house

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Antaeus_Feldspar

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history This shows how Antaeus Feldspar supports Kerry, which is fine, but Johnny is a strong supporter of Bush. Perhaps the bias is political and not racial?

The link for page: John Clary has already been deleted!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alabamaboy

Please notice that his link was taken from the KKK site the same day:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=prev&oldid=65690238

then

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=next&oldid=65690238

Also note his contributions: Featured articles: · African American literature -- My first featured article. Thanks to everyone who gave feedback. While I didn't start the article, I obsessed on it for an entire month and wrote most of the copy. · Ku Klux Klan -- I began work on this article after it became a featured article. Since then I've mediated several editorial disputes on the article (including one of which kept the article from being delisted as a FA) and made a large number of edit.

Sorry for spamming you all earlier, I didn't know this page existed! Cheers. Potters house 01:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC) Nick.[reply]

Your accusations of racism are highly inappropriate, and you would do yourself and your "cause" a big favor by retracting the allegations. Only administrators can delete articles, and administrators get their positions because they have the full trust of the Wikipedia community. The admin who deleted the article is User:Tawker, with whom you may wish to discuss the matter, but in point of fact, the deletion was done because of a virtually unanimous consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johnny Lee Clary, which is the procedure we use to discuss whether or not the community feels an article should be kept. All of this discussion doesn't belong here, and any rate. The place to discuss undeletion of articles is at WP:DRV, but I reiterate that the previous deletion discussion was virtually unanimous. User:Zoe|^(talk) 01:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was not the content or even so much the intent of Mr. Clary's additions that drew attention and disapproval, it was his behavior. Because of him, I have Tom Metzger on my watchlist. Having to defend the content of such an article is distasteful to me, but Mr. Clary's vandalism made that necessary. You need not, indeed you should not, look for any deeper reason for Wikipedians objecting to Mr. Clary than checking out his past actions on articles at Wikipedia. Again, not his outspokenness, but his underhandedness. Resorting to the old standby of demonizing those acting against you ignores that most important possibility - you just might be wrong. Shenme 03:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should we block indefinitely, as username inappropriate? User:Fredil Yupigo/signature 02:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Looks like your question has been answered. Yanksox 02:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice one, Pilotguy. User:Fredil Yupigo/signature 02:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Specifically,

• 02:44, July 27, 2006 Pilotguy (Talk | contribs) blocked "DDDDDDDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNN (contribs)" with an expiry time of indefinite (BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE)

Haha. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 02:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Hrm. is ‎A1% an appropriate username? I thought usernames weren't supposed to contain special characters. Also, it looks like User:ASM123456 is a vandalism account (see A Spy's Mission 4, 3, 2, and 1 or check the deletion log if pages don't exist). User:Fredil Yupigo/signature 02:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

They're definitely strongly discourged and it might be a good idea if nothing else to nicely ask the person to change their nick but I'm not sure if they're specifically not allowed. Pegasus1138^{Talk | Contribs | Email} ---- 03:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]