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October 23

i've read every single book in the artemis fowl series. ive even read the first chapter of the new one, the lost colony.does anyone know what comes after the lost colony? im curious.

thanks, richard.

According to Artemis Fowl (series), The Lost Colony is the last in the series so far. There will probably be more in the series, but these haven't been announced yet. --Canley 03:08, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

how much to ship a car from NYC to Chicago? I'm not flying and driving it back. thanks.

http://www.shipmyvehicle.com/default.aspx --Proficient 05:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I want to build a clay brick wall in my garden. It'll be in sandy soil and about 3.5m long x 1.8m high. My question is, what size concrete footings should I use? I was thinking about 300mm x 300mm. — Moondyne 05:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You'll want to put the footings deep enough to go below the frost line for your area. Otherwise, in winter the ground may heave and put a lovely crack right through your new wall. Dismas|^(talk) 10:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Depends on the strength of the soil as well, and the thickness of the wall, which presumably will be about 200mm wide (a brick length rather than a brick width for a wall of that height). 300mm doesn't sound deep enough for that sort of weight. Depending on the purpose of the wall, you might find it has to conform to local building regulations.--Shantavira 12:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hah! no frost line where I am. Wall will be 100mm thick with 4 piers (200mm, 1 at each end and 2 midway along) and will not be load bearing. I'l make enquiries with my local council I think. — Moondyne 14:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Number one rule for these things is to look around at what has worked, and do that! --Zeizmic 15:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Paradoxically, a narrower footing may work better. Imagine a footer with a circular cross-section. When a horizontal force is applied to the lever that is the wall, all that keeps the footing from turning in its place is the friction with the soil. No soil is displaced in the process. Now a square is not a circle, but it is a better approximation of a circle than all other rectangles of the same cross-sectional area. Turning an embedded square cuboid around its axis displaces less volume than a non-square cuboid. Assuming one side is not buried but flush with the surface, if the rectangular cross-section has width W and height H, the displacement for a small angle δ is roughly proportional to (2H+W)δ. Maximizing this while keeping HW constant gives H = 2W. My intuition tells me that the turning point will actually be lower than the centre of the rectangle, suggesting an even larger ration of H : W, for example H = 450mm and W = 200mm. If you are not restricted to rectangular cross-sections, you could consider a buried upside-down T shape. Disclaimer: All walls I've built until now have toppled over.  --Lambiam^Talk 17:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The depth of 300mm is fine as depth is not the issue. We are looking for vertical bearing capacity here and only the x-y plane will matter. See soil mechanics. You do want it deep enough so that if the wall is in one direction only and unsecured at the ends that it won't tip over, 500mm from the surface to the top of the footer will do. Sandy soil has decent bearing strength if it is undisturbed; if disturbed you should compact it first, just flood the ditch and let it dry (sand is pretty much "self-compacting" when flooded) or bash it with something heavy if you do not have access to a soil compactor. I would go with 500 - 600mm for the width. Put two pieces of #15 M reinforcing rod longitudinally for the entire length and tie your vertical stub bars into these. Oh, and I disclaim any responsibility if it falls over. --Justanother 18:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

APPROXIMATELY, withing 15% how much did a new ford focus cost in 2003 in 2006 money? A new 07 model today costs about $14,000

2003 Ford Focus; SVT was $19,085 / $18,585 (4-door / 2-door), and the ZX5 started at $15,525 (4-door). The dollar hasn't changed that much in 3 years, so "2006 money" is just about the same as "2003 money".

Google works well for this question, check out the first, second, and third results of this search.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  10:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

what is it that to be true it must be false.the only clue i have is that it has sumthin to do with time.i have tried looking it up but nuthing.................... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.49.84.87 (talk • contribs)

I am lying to you.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  10:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See liar paradox. Time comes into it because if someone says they lied, or they will lie, that makes logical sense, but if they say they are lying (now), you cannot tell whether they are lying or not. --Shantavira 12:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See the above statement I am lying to you. If he was really lying, then it would be a lie, or untrue, that he was lying, and thus he would be telling the truth. But if he was telling the truth, then he is lying, which he cant be, because hes telling the truth. Complicated, I suppose, but interesting.--The Corsair. 22:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is meant by micro marketing in the world of advertising?

Sarah Lord

Micro marketing is targeting individuals rather than large segments of the population. Made possible by the technology that allows individuals to be reached. michellevieux

Sounds like the ultimate extension of market segmentation. StuRat 20:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also see niche market. 惑乱 分からん 17:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In other words, those arseholes who ring you around diner time. If people here think I am rude at times, they haven't heard me fulminate against those bitches. People complain about spam (another form of micro marketing?), but that's nothing in comparison. I am exposed to spam when I choose to (when I check my mail) and getting rid of it takes but a second. But when they call you, they determeine when and I have to get up for it and then they start lying about their real purpose, trying to keep me on the phone. Luckily, there is talk in the Netherlands of making this form of advertising illegal. DirkvdM 07:07, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let me use a typically DirkvdM-style reply:

"We have a no-call list in the US, with strict penalties for anyone who calls those on the list. Perhaps if your country was as civilized as ours, and had a proper democracy, as in the US, you would have this, too." StuRat 15:21, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And now for a real DirkvdM style answer (because by the man himself). We would have had such law a long time ago here too if we would have an economy that is so immerged in commercials as the US. It has become a problem (ie it started) only a few years ago. And politicians need time to react when something happens in reality (ie it probably has to happen to them first). Now they have reacted and hopefully they will choose the right version. You seem to have opt-out. I hope we're going to get opt-in because that is, of course, much more civilised. :) DirkvdM 04:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Immerged" ? Do you mean "immersed" ? Also, you're not using "i.e." correctly. It means "in example". A correct use would be: "I hate telemarketers who call at inappropriate times, i.e., at dinner time." StuRat 05:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Stu, "i.e." is short for "id est", meaning "that is". See List of Latin abbreviations.  :) JackofOz 12:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Damn, you beat me to that one. I love to correct people in their own language. Too bad I did make one mistake, and an odd one because the 'g' and the 's' are not next to each other on the keyboard. Oh, and about the real subject at hand. How long did it take the US government to outlaw spam? Or have they? E-mail_spam#Legality seems to suggest so. And Australia seems to have some law against it. The EU has in 2002 given a directive to outlaw spam. Alas the Dutch government is being a bit slow. Alas only two major left wing parties choose the opt-in version. How much spam do you guys get? I get about one every two days, and rarely one that wasn't my own stupid fault. Telephone spam I get a few per year. DirkvdM 08:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To misquote Yul Brynner, "just hang up".  :) JackofOz 12:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, by then I have already had to put down my fork, get up, pick up the phone and go through the ritual of me giving my name and them answering with "Am I talking to Dirk van der Made?" Yes of course you are, you stupid cow, I just told you so. Of course I could hang up at that point to minimise the irritation, but there is always the off chance that it is a serious and/or useful phone call. Ok, fat chance, so you're right in that respect. But I also want to get a chance to get to tell them what I think of them. "Imagine me cleaning up my attick, coming across some stuf I want to get rid of and then thinking 'hey, what if I picked up the phone book, chose a random number and asked them if they would want to buy it?' Now would that be asocial? Yes? And what are you doing right now then?" That's the friendliest version. I will refrain from typing the other versions because there might be children reading this. DirkvdM 04:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I liked the Simpsons episode where Homer got an autodialer and used it to call people night and day and say whatever was on his mind. The courts ordered him to apologize to the town, as a result. No problem, he just programmed the autodialer with an apology and let it run all night long. :-) StuRat 05:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And like I said, Dirk, just hang up. Or, say "No, thanks" and then hang up. Stay cool, and return to your dinner. You don't have to allow some anonymous stranger rattle your cage so much. You're totally in control of that. They're used to being hung up on, and it would save a lot of wasted emotional energy on your part. Energy that you could put to much better use in coming up with a magnificent series of contributions to Wikipedia. (Well, we can hope, can't we?).  :) JackofOz 12:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As you may have noticed, I've already got that last bit covered. :) And of course you're right, it would be better for my heart and shit to not get worked up about it, but that would feel like giving in. Imagine some stranger walking up to yo uin the street and hitting you. The most sensible thing (if you limit your view to that one occasion) would be to ignore it and walk on. But there are two problems with that. It makes you feel like a weakling not to have protested and if people can get away with it that easily, they'll start doing it more and more. The only differences with telephone spam are that it doesn't hurt as much physically and that I have to walk up to them. I feel it is my moral duty to let them know what asocial bitches they are. DirkvdM 08:22, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Giving in? But you are giving in at the moment. Giving in to your egoic desire to be a victim of circumstance. You can choose to not let them get to you. Who's in charge of your emotions - you or them? At the moment, you're letting them dictate your emotional state. If you accept that sometimes phone calls arrive at inconvenient times, then it should make no difference to your emotional state whether it's a telemarketer or your closest friend. JackofOz 09:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, What year were powdered doughnuts commercialized, in other words, when were they made available in stores for purchase? Thank you very much, Cindy

Look for the inflection point for obesity and tooth decay. --Zeizmic 14:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haha nice one Zeizmic --WikiSlasher 14:16, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, they're sugar powdered because they're greasy for your fingers (or you have to open a very big mouth). Every fat pastry in the world needs something like that. Have you known a time when it was not so ? -- DLL ^{.. T} 18:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the confectioner's sugar falls off and leaves a trail on your hands, clothes, and all over any office or household unfortunate enough to be afflicted by a a box.  :-) StuRat 20:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But theres no denying the yummy deliciousness. --The Corsair. 22:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, pretty much any donuts I've had left a horrid chemical aftertaste. I'd rather have an apple. In fact, I'm eating an apple right now. StuRat 22:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is it a karma apple? JackofOz 12:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Kit Kat article says it is "...the world's #2 chocolate bar after the Mars bar." Interestingly, Snickers says its the "best selling candy bar of all time". Is there a table somewhere that lists other top selling bars? I'm curious to know where Freddo Frog sits in the rankings. — Moondyne 15:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would rank quite low, since it's neither sold in USA, Asia or the European continent... 惑乱 分からん 15:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, I've never seen or heard of a Freddo Frog in the UK either. Also I think it would be reasonable to ask for a citation for claims like this in Wikipedia. Manufacturers don't always want to make sales figures public, but if they're availabble at all you should find them on the appropriate company websites.--Shantavira 17:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You've never heard of or seen Freddo Frog in the UK? May I assume that you didn't spend your pocket money at a newsagents? Skittle 21:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I had never heard of Freddo Frogs at all, until I saw the Wikipedia article. And I've been to the UK three times. JIP | Talk 08:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't believe much of anything a candy bar manufacturer said relative to its competitors, or anything other than verifiable brand name age and, one would hope, product contents. Candy bar geekMothperson cocoon 23:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone recognize the place name Marcorop {this may not be the correct spelling}. I have a ancestor who, according to the census, was born there in 1876. I believe that it is in Pennsylvania but can not find any reference in gazetteers, google etc.

stmartins

The US Geological Survey database has no entires for Marcorop (and no entries for anyplace starting with Marco- in Penn.) You could try other possible spellings at this link. Or it may just be a place that no longer exists. Rmhermen 16:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have been looking for a card game I use to own that was played on a hard plastic board. I thought was called "Solitaire" or "Poker Solitaire" and I don't remember if it was a Parker Brothers game or Milton Bradley game or something else. I've been searching both of their web sites and everwhere else on the web without successfully finding any evidence of its existence. Your reference page to "poker solitaire" or "poker square" is exactly how this game was played. Can you help me find information on this game?

I'm sure I have one of those ugly green plastic things at the cottage, but it's all sealed up and frozen solid now. --Zeizmic 21:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi... I've been noticing these short, fairly narrow purple streaks on my legs, buttocks, and recently my right knee. Anyone know what these are? --Anonymous coward

As far as I know they are veins/arteries, I have them on the inside of my left knee, no-doubt I will have them on my right as well soon now that I have started cycling once more. I'm not really sure WHY they are they, one would guess for rapid heat loss. Although if you don't exercise that much it may be your age - I've seen it on various ages, mostly over 50s however. --AMX 19:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)AMX[reply]

(medical disclaimer) - Have you recently been pregnant/lost huge amounts of weight? When one of the two (:P) happened to me, I got stretch marks all over my back and some on my thighs. Hope this helps. Martinp23 23:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another condition which might fit the description is telangiectasia aka spider veins. We don't have any images of them but if you do a Google Images search for "spider veins" you'll see a lot of them. --Fastfission 00:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thread veins?--Light current 01:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My local airport is BWI. Whenever I go there, I check my bags outside the main room (since I get my boarding pass from the internet) on the street.. they have little kiosks where people line up and give the guys their bags. The guys wheel the luggage inside themselves in big loads. Every time I go almost every group in line gives the main guy a $5 or $10 tip.. and this guy serves a family every minute or two! And it's just some scruffy looking airport lug.. making possibly $100 an hour. So I was just curious.. is this job given to the most senior lug, or is he chosen at random, or chosen for the "employee of the week" kind of thing or what? --froth^{T C} 19:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, comparatively, bartenders can make over a grand a night at a busy station. Tip based jobs are just like that, very chance based. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 23:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps they share their tips with all the other luggage handlers behind the scenes? Lisiate 19:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Floppy disks have been deprecated for several years now, it is practically impossible to find them on retail any more, new computers are sold without floppy drives, sysadmins are discouraging their use and telling people to transform their files to more reliable media. Yet, the floppy disk is almost universally still used as the icon for "save file". Surely this will lead to problems in a few years' time, when the average user has never seen a real-life floppy disk? JIP | Talk 19:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's more easily associated with saving than a plain grey platter or something --froth^{T C} 20:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessarily. We use many symbols and icons that are based on obsolete theories. One of the most common is falling in love "with all your heart". The heart is just a muscle, not the seat of emotion, that comes from part of the brain. Yet we continue to send Valentine's Day cards with a prettified version of the human heart on them. Kids just learn that the heart is a symbol of love from an early age, as they now will learn that a floppy disk is the symbol for a removable storage device from an early age. StuRat 20:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, Stu, how unromantic of you. You need to fall in love again (assuming you've ever done that before) - and fast!  :) JackofOz 20:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, should I ask which organ appears on the Valentine's cards you and your significant other exchange ? :-) StuRat 01:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's ... wait for it ... hearts. Can you imagine telling your beloved that you love her with all your brain? The almost certain emotional response to such a statement would be intense disappointment and disillusionment. This might suggest that the scientific approach to things is not always appropriate. JackofOz 12:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We still "dial" a telephone, even though most phones haven't had dials for years. User:Zoe|(talk) 20:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I just paid US$20 for a nice old Western Electric manufactured type 500 desk set, with a dial and real bells for the ringer.  :-) --LarryMac 20:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. I've been thinking about changing the ring tone on my cell phone to an old analog telephone ring. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the 2870s a professor of Symbology will study an early 21st century text editor programme and, from the strange glyphs of the interface, will determine the exact appearance of the mysterious "floopydiks" (hitherto regarded as simply an ancient knob gag) and will conclude that this is the vessel most likely to contain the long sort after, fabled, LINUX he suspects has been suppressed by the evil church of Microsoft. MeltBanana 21:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Someday people will wonder what is this "sheet of paper" thing used to be which is still used to signficy a "new file". ;-) Realistically speaking, who knows if the iconography of software functions will change over time — they have only been around for two decades or so, which is just a blip in the history of human kind and human technology. --Fastfission 01:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know some people who ask why the copy-to address line on e-mails is labeled "cc." When I explain it means "carbon copy," then I have to get into a whole explanation about what carbon paper was (do they even make carbon paper anymore?) and the workings of a typewriter, etc. — Michael J 01:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just tell them CC means "computer copy", which it mostly does, these days. As for paper, I don't see it going away anytime soon. I don't think there has even been a reduction in paper usage as a result of the computer revolution. For example, as a computer programmer, I find there is still no substitute for printouts. StuRat 01:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you can still buy carbon paper. --WikiSlasher 07:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe "CC" now officially stands for "courtesy copy". howcheng {chat} 20:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK Suggestion. Replace symbol with a safe and an arrow pointing into it! 8-)--Light current 01:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think if you ask a kid, they'll just say: "Oh, that's the save symbol!" --Zeizmic 01:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I used to buy tons - yes really - of A4 copy paper when I worked as a buyer in the civil service. I recall in one buyer/supplier interface aimed at reducing costs, I asked when the paperless office would really arrive, thinking my supplier's strategic thinking would know the answer to such a simple question. Yes, he said, the paperless office will follow shortly after the arrival of the paperless toilet.

And in a similar meeting with my toner cartridge supplier he explained that within his industry, toner ink was otherwise known as "Black Gold".

I'm about to visit the US for the first time and I will be in Morrisville, North Carolina. I doubt I'll have much spare time outside the meeting I'll be attending, but if I get any. What places should I visit there? - Mgm|^(talk) 20:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would ask them to move the meeting to a more interesting place. alteripse 20:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• You mean there's nothing remotely interesting there? Not even encyclopedic for an article? - Mgm|^(talk) 21:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your meeting has probably been located in Morrisville because it is adjacent to the Raleigh-Durham International Airport. Morrisville is also located along Interstate 40, one of the most important east-west superhighways (motorways) crossing the United States. I don't know the site of your meeting, but it is probably in one of the corporate hotels or office complexes that cluster near major airports and along major superhighways in the United States. Since this is your first trip to the United States, this will be an excellent place to view the vast and mostly low-density, car-dependent urban sprawl that typifies development patterns in the contemporary United States. The lack of noteworthy sites mentioned in the Wikipedia article suggests that Morrisville, like so many other suburban entities in the United States, is an area of recent residential and commercial development with little of historical or cultural interest. Because of its car-dependent nature, you will need a car to visit the places nearby that have some cultural interest. Among these are two of the most prestigious universities in the southern United States, Duke University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. The twin cities of Durham, the site of Duke University, and Raleigh, the capital of North Carolina, are both nearby. Together, these cities form an urban region that encompasses Morrisville and is known as Raleigh-Durham or the Triangle. Marco polo 22:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's also the site of the historic US tobacco industry, if that thrills you as much as it does me. StuRat 22:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ask the locals where a good barbecue place is . you won't be disappointed with southern bbq.

Go to an Atlantic Coast Conference basketball game, if you can get tickets. Quite an experience, even if you're not a big basketball fan. Or a high-school (American) football game, if the season's still on. -- Mwalcoff 00:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking for a croissant recipe, but they're all talking about packages of yeast when I have no idea how much is in such a package, I'm trying to figure out how much fresh baker's yeast I should be using for it. Also, I'm finding cups an terribly inconvenient measure for non-melted butter. Can anyone help me track down a metric recipe? - Mgm|^(talk) 20:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe butter sticks are marked in cups on the side of each stick. For butter in a tub, look at the volume of the tub. If you have a 24 oz tub, you need 1/3 of that for an 8 oz cup. A packet of yeast sufficient for my 1.5 lb bread machine is about 4 g or 0.14 oz. StuRat 20:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stu, do you have cook books you can reference? If so, the Cup (unit) article could maybe do with a list of weight equivalents for common ingredients, to give an idea of these things. I would, but none of mine feature 'cups'. Skittle 22:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A fluid ounce of water also weighs one avoirdupois ounce. Therefore, a US cup, at 8 fluid ounces, also weighs 8 ounces, or half a pound. The density of milk is quite close to water, so the same conversion more or less applies. Oil is a bit lighter, but this approximation still isn't bad, at least for cooking purposes. StuRat 01:57, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• I probably should've mentioned I'm in the Netherlands. We mark our butter in grams. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Well, you already stated "metric recipe"... Otherwise, you could check out oz and lb for Metric conversion. 惑乱 分からん 21:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My recipe book has a list of those it lists a conversion for oz. to ml. Kind of useless when you're using non-melted butter. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You could try this recipe, if you're any good at French. Maybe Babel fish could help you. If you just wanted an ingredients list, it asks for:

40 grams sugar

10 grams salt

15 grams baker's yeast

300 ml milk

500 grams flour

300 grams butter

1 egg

Skittle 22:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks. A list of ingredients will help. I can use those. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why do some of the books that I buy on line have a black ink mark across the pages on their edge? They are defiantly not accidental markings and the books do not come from a single source. What do they mean?

Thank You, cckst11

Many books are marked like that by bookstores when they are put on the sale shelves. It usually indicates that the person you got it from did not pay full price. alteripse 20:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It might be a way to sell a book below a fixed price, which may only be possible if it is damaged. So they damage it, but not too bad. I used to but lp's that had holes punched through the cover for that same reason. DirkvdM 07:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

alteripse and Dirk are correct - it's a remainder mark, indicating that the book isn't to be sold at full price (although I disagree with the article that this isn't often used for paperbacks - I've bought many with the same marking). Natgoo 12:53, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tigers are obviously a dark shade of green. Their "stripes" are only reflections of the moon that bounce off the soft tone of green in their fur. I have found this through many studies in the bermuda triangle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.73.192.130 (talk • contribs)

Uh...pschemp | talk 21:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Most tigers have white bellies with orange backs and black stripes all over. Siberian tigers have slightly different markings. StuRat 21:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Paper tigers often have yellow streaks, though... 惑乱 分からん 21:52, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And African tigers are usually monochrome (unless the old movies in which they appeared have been colorised)  :) JackofOz 01:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The African tigers in the Phantom comics used to be monochrome here in Sweden, but since the 90's the comic book's colorized... 惑乱 分からん 01:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My general knowledge isn't too bad, but it wasn't till I was in my mid 30s that I discovered there are no tigers in Africa. Such is the pervasive influence of Jungle Jim, the Phantom, etc. JackofOz 03:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And lions do not live in the jungle, they live on the plains. Such is the (American!) influence of 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight' from The Tokens, Lion King, etc. And no, lions do not walk the streets of our cities in Africa. Sandman30s 08:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Detroit Tigers are blue and white(hotclaws**== 16:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC))[reply]

I am stuck on a crossword I need another name for surfboard fins can anyone help me please

How many letters? Have you got any letters already? (You could write in clues here in **X**XX** or similar format...) Also, check out the surfboard article for possible information. 惑乱 分からん 21:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

where i am from they are called "gualaja"

What about 'rudder'? Anchoress 23:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am surprised that people don't ask here for crossword help more often. Яussiaп F 23:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I think that may lead to more cross words between editors. 8-(--Light current 01:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Skeg --Zeizmic 01:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Many of our regular visitors are cruciverbalists. JackofOz 05:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

especially when they got it right in the first sentence.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aDyskVjHQCNI&refer=us

Sometimes you miss the thing that's right in front of your face. --Fastfission 00:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Perdue" probably passed the spell-checker. -- Mwalcoff 00:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes, it's a case perdu, I guess... ;) 惑乱 分からん 01:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

stfu

I've noticed blatant errors in headlines myself, including the failure to capitalize the first character, and a lack of a question mark at the end of a question. The only way I can explain it is that the editors just don't care if they write proper English sentences or not. This is even true of many of the question askers here on the Ref Desk. StuRat 07:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Although few are as bad as the one two threads down, under 'Jews'. Then again, that one is mostly just weird. DirkvdM 07:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help! What does one do with little kids on the internet for an hour and a half? They can barely read, and the computers I have suck badly (school computers, no downloads allowed, no sound, only a few have good media software, and I don't know which ones). I have my laptop (sound, media stuff, downloads allowed), so if someone suggested a few videos, I could show them those...? 204.147.94.154 23:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're missing out on the value of a computer if you just use it to play movies. Show them MS Paint, and let them each draw a few lines on the computer, so together it makes a picture of, say, a house. Then print it out when you're all done (if you have a printer) and pass it around, then post it on a wall. They will like that they each contributed to it, and it will teach them about computers and cooperation at the same time. StuRat 01:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I well know the value of the computer and I reget that I was not more clear. The only programs available for my use are Word and IE. Plus, I'm supposed to be teaching them about the internet. 216.160.53.151 02:38, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My suggestion would be FunnyAnimalVideos.com - it doesn't need sound, but it does need at least a 512Kbit connection. It plays embedded Youtube clips of cute animals doing odd things. There's also CuteOverload, which is a similar archive of cute animal pictures. Other child-friendly sites I know of are Simple English Wikipedia and Pogo. Pesapluvo 03:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1. Take them to some age-appropriate sites they might find interesting (like Animal Planet, Sesame Street, the Spider Man movie site, fansites for some of their fave stars and characters, the NASA site, Discovery Channel, etc. You should be able to find home sites for all their fave shows. Show them how to bookmark the sites (they don't need to be able to read to do that), show them how to size windows and how to drag icons of their fave sites to the desktop and then open them.
2. Show them how to copy pics from web pages and paste them into Word.
3. Take them to the home pages of some of their fave authors; JKRowling has an awesome website that's really interactive and a great time waster. Also www.the-leaky-cauldron.org and other sites are great fansites for Potter fans.
4. I'm too lazy to look for you, but I know there are lots of free online games for kids of all ages (down to 2 if you can believe it). Tip: lots of kids movies and stories have interactive mini-games on their sites; I know the WB Harry Potter site has a few. It's not my cup of tea, but sites like the McDonalds home page probably have them too. If their parents wouldn't object, the www.simpsons.com site is kinda fun. Not too fun, just a little bit.

--Anchoress 05:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Show them google earth, or some other sattelite world map website. I don't know if they'll like it, but it fascanates me. :) Яussiaп F 11:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Google Earth is especially good if you live in a reasonably big town or city, since Google has high quality images of most big settlements, and they should be able to find their houses. Laïka 12:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But, unfortunately, most houses aren't very recognizable from the top. StuRat 05:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 24

Thankyou for the information.Neturei Karta was the page I was on and did not bookmark. I have put the page on my list and all the other information as well. I lived in Germany for 15 years. I saw one of the camps and I had read about them for a long time. I met many people from other states also. ery interesting. Thank you again.I have a lot of reading to do.Thank you for erasing my private information.

Mary

Does Karma really exist? Kyle James

Of course. But it usually is accompanied by its other half 'Sutra' 8-)--Light current 01:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's Kama! 216.160.53.151 02:39, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I always enjoy a nice karma apple. :-) StuRat 01:38, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, karma exists, at least in the form of karmic retribution. If you want to prove it, here's what you do. Go to a crowded place and look around. See the big buff biker dude with his girlfriend? Okay. Go up and smack her (hard, but make sure it is open handed). That's the karma. Now wait... You feel that pain from being beat up by the biker dude? That's the retribution. BAM! --AstoVidatu 02:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or he can just see karma. It's amazing how much you can learn by not having the crap beat out of you by some biker dude. Яussiaп F 11:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is the fact that you feel it sufficient to establish that it really exists?  --Lambiam^Talk 15:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Karma is an issue of faith. If it makes sense to you and helps you to lead a better life in your own eyes then it has value. There is no way to prove or disprove that it exists; it is metaphysics not science. That does not in the least reduce its value. If you like it or you like the philosophy or religion it is a part of then it exists for you.

Check out Reciprocity. Whether Karma exists as it is described by religions is a matter of your beliefs. However, if by Karma existing you mean your actions will effect how people will treat and think of you then yes it does exist. It's human nature. —Mitaphane _talk 18:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I knew of a shop that sold delicious Karma Corn. Edison 22:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Want a cool funky pet? Then get a Karma Chameleon :) Lemon martini 13:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I left a question here a while ago, but forgot about it, and can't find it. Something about Motorolla making the things you see coaches wearing at the football game, with a speaker on only one side, and a microphone. Thanks, X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 07:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are five pages of description in the following book. Cheryl Dangel Cullen and Lynn Haller (2004). Design Secrets: Products 2: 50 Real-life Projects Uncovered, pp 94-97. Gloucester, MA: Rockport. ISBN 1-59253-071-0. Let me include a couple of quotes. Coaches are highly visible to millions of fans every week. Moreover, their status as team commander-in-chief carries a cachet that is hard to beat. "How could you have a more positive product placement than a commander marshalling his army down the field using technology to succeed?" "Ultimately, the goal was for consumers to see these products on the heads of head coaches and link them to [Motorola's] consumer products, so that consumers who see the headset on TV and then walk into a retail establishment and see a product that's similar will buy it." --Chan Tai Man 10:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I recall answering that question though don't have the time right now to dig around in the archives. Basically, they are headsets to communicate with other coaches like the defensive coach, the offensive coach, maybe some assistants and such. There is also a spotter for each team who sits above the field near where the news reporters have boxes. These spotters need to communicate with the coach so they have a headset as well. Dismas|^(talk) 13:04, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was kind of looking for it's name more, or the Wikipedia article. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 18:21, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's a tough one to find. Some google searching uncovered Control Dynamics the vendor that sells the helmet radios to the NFL. Their site is pretty sketchy with the pictures and technical details, though. As to why the headset worn by the coach carries the Motorola logo I do not know for sure. I do know that years ago it was the David Clark (company) that provided headset communication systems to the teams and to broadcasters. The particular green color of their headsets is easily identifiable. I couldn't find a decent Wikipedia article on headset-based communication systems, either. 192.168.1.1 8:52, 24 Rocktober 2006 (PST)

Here's a nice brochure from David Clark showing how some of their headsets interface with different radios: Headset brochure. 192.168.1.1 8:55, 24 Rocktober 2006 (PST)

How does one go about increasing his powers of observation consciously? sumal 07:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Besides for constantly watching things and observing things, I don't think there's a way. It seems like a natural thing. I remember when I tried to be more observant, such as knowing how many steps I walked up (after reading Sherlock Holmes, of course), it stopped without my noticing after awhile. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 07:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Try keeping a journal and record details of things you observe. Writing them down will make more apparent what you saw and what you missed. StuRat 07:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You ain't gonna like this but you can study Scientology. It frees up more of your attention and makes you more extroverted. If you are more extroverted you will observe more, assuming that you are looking, of course. Not a popular comment here on wikipedia but I would be remiss if I failed to make it. Otherwise, take up a hobby like birdwatching or geocaching that requires keen observation and you should make improvement. --Justanother 17:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to expand. Observation can be thought of as dependent on a number of factors; how much attention you are giving to your surroundings, how much you are willing to observe your surroundings, and how much knowledge you have about what you are observing. On the first, a person can be thought to have a fixed number of "attention units" (or simply amount of attention). You have probably experienced this when driving a car; on a lightly traveled highway, you can drive, eat, smoke, and carry on a conversation at the same time. Only a few of your attention units are busy driving. But what about in a heavy rainstorm, in heavy traffic at speed. Then you kinda suck all your attention units back in from where there were floating and put them all on the job of driving. If you did not have a fixed amount of attention you could continue with all the other stuff too, but you don't. In general life, if your attention is tied up in matters internal to your head, you have less to observe with. I use Scientology to get my attention out of my head but you can use whatever works for you, start by eating well, getting a good night's sleep, and some exercise. Take care of those situations that are bothering you. Regarding willingness to observe, I don't know what area is on your mind but just gradually increase your willingness to be a part of it by finding some part that you are willing to participate in and do so; get out the world of computers and books and into the real world. Charity activities and volunteerism are good for that. Finally, how does knowledge fit in? When you know about a subject you can pick out details in what to another is a confusing black mass. The trained mechanic can listen to your engine and tell you that you have a vacuum leak or a sticky valve where all you hear is "normal engine noise". So learn about the subject or area where you wish to improve your observation skills. But don't forget about the birdwatching. I don't mean this to sound like I am saying that you are "in bad shape" or something of that sort, I simply wanted to address your question. --Justanother 20:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

what is special economy zone

Usually a low tax (or no tax) zone, to encourage businesses to grow. StuRat 14:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aka a 'duty free zone', such as in Golfito, Costa Rica, where people can buy something one day and then collect it the next day. So they have to stay in town for at least one night (and possibly day), which is a boost to the local economy. DirkvdM 04:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hi..

i just wanted to noe,..

how can i noe weather a music downloading website is legal or illegal?

what should i look out for in a legal music download website.??..thx

I don't know the answer to your question, but one of the links from our online music store article is called http://www.museekster.com/legalmusic.htm and they list lots of (presumably legal) sites. --Shantavira 12:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More importantly, how can you know whether your spelling is correct ? :-) StuRat 14:53, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Misspelling is a big noe-noe here.  --Lambiam^Talk 15:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A legal music download site would be the iTunes store, or Walmart's. If you don't pay for it, it is illegal. If you pay for it, it might or it might not be. If you are using Limewire, Frostwire, or eMule to hook up to Gnutella it is almost certainly illegal whatever songs you may be downloading, and the same goes for Kazaa. Bittorrent and its tracker sites [1][2][3] are mostly illegal downloads, although many sites offer legal downloads, such as Wikipedia and many free game demos. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 18:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not true that all free music is illegal. There's lots of old, public domain music, and some artists give away some of their songs for free, intentionally to build up an audience for other songs which they sell. StuRat 20:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Try Magnatune. The music is always legal to download, but they ask for a donation for a proper Flac cd, etc. I used to do this, but I just find the whole thing of filtering for good music a giant pain. I've gone back to buying a cd from an artist I like, and making a scratch cd for the car. --Zeizmic 15:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

off the top of my head, there are plenty of places to download free, legal music...but not by mainstream (signed) artists. here are a few: [[4]], [[5]], [[6]], [[7]]. also, [[8]] is another community (and fanatically obsessed with audio quality, i might add) which is dedicated to the proliferation of free, legal music downloads. Lrpelkey 11:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some of you may remember the person who repeatedly asked about the legality of several actions while wearing a mask. Should this person resurface, please direct them to Snopes. The site posted an entry on several fake laws from Arizona. Among other things it says the following about "Any misdemeanor committed while wearing a red mask is considered a felony.":

The notion that the wearing of a red mask during the commission a crime was once considered so heinous for some arcane reason that even today a person who jaywalked while wearing such a mask could be charged with a felony is amusing, but untrue. Nothing about red masks appears in the Arizona Revised Statutes. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:25, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Save Illegal in a mask --216.164.197.58 22:25, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why on earth has China got so many people??? And why has Asia got so many people in general??? Climate??? Im pretty sure its not to do with size because, for example Russia has a population of about 142 million people and someting like Indonesia has a population of 227 million and its like a tenth of the size lol.

have fun, --William dady 10:39, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No one really knows the answer to this question, but here are some likely reasons. 1.) The heavily populated parts of Asia have a more suitable climate for intensive agriculture than does Russia. The growing season is longer, and the monsoon rains are predictable in most places. They also tend to coincide with the the solar maximum in the summer. 2.) Partly for this reason, these parts of Asia have histories of agriculture and civilization going back thousands of years. Over thousands of years, the population was able to grow large relative to other parts of the earth. 3.) Asia benefited from most of the population-enhancing technological developments that gave Europe its edge in early modern times. In fact, with the important exception of industrialization, many of these technological developments (writing, metalworking, the plough) were pioneered in Asia. 4.) This is a bit speculative, but the religious ideologies of Hinduism and Confucianism stress the importance of accepting one's place and the existing power relations in society. This may help to explain the relative stability and size of states in much of Asia compared to other parts of the world. Large and stable states allow for greater economic and population growth than a fragmented and unstable political landscape, which tends to disrupt agriculture. 5.) Intensive rice cultivation produces a large yield per acre. It is also fairly labor-intensive, and requires a large agriculture labor force to maintain. Both of these features of rice cultivation encouraged large populations. 6.) You discount size, but Asia is of course the largest continent. Europe has similar population densities to those of Asia, but its smaller area means that it has a smaller total population. Marco polo 12:57, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And he should know!--Shantavira 13:25, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lol. To be honest, I don't claim special expertise on China, though I'm interested. I chose the login name because I am interested in geography, history, languages, and travel and have some knowledge in those areas. Also, Marco has been a nickname of mine. Sorry to disappoint anyone who thought that the great Italian travel writer had come back to life! Marco polo 15:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with most of what Marco Polo said, but not the religious stability issue. Most of the worlds religions were formed in Asia, and fought amongst each other there, as well as exporting their religious hatred to other continents. I don't think Asia has a history of any less war than other continents. StuRat 14:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't argue that Asia has had less war than other continents. But I think that war has been mostly confined to the edges of the great centers of population (Ganges Plain, eastern China), which have enjoyed remarkable political unity and stability over long periods of time. While the Pax Romana was an exception in the history of Europe, similar centuries-long periods of peace were the rule, especially in China. Several dynasties lasted centuries. These tended to be centuries of population growth. Even in India, the Delhi Sultanate and the Mughal Empire ruled for hundreds of years in relative peace, although they began violently.

As for religious hatred, this seems to me mainly a western thing (if we include Islam as a western religion). And in fact, the Middle East since the rise of Islam has had a relatively low population. The Middle East has not been one of the great population centers of Asia since ancient times. Religious hatred, according to the historical record, came to India with the Muslims. While Hindu nationalists are hostile to Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and Jains lived together in mutual toleration. India also welcomed non-hostile Christians and Zoroastrians in pre-Muslim times.

Marco polo 15:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't consider Islam to be a Western religion. While it's origins are quite close to that of Judaism and Christianity, it has since spread primarily to southern Asia and Northern Africa, whereas Judaism and Christianity primarily spread to Europe, Australia, and the Americas. StuRat 15:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Islam is not a western religion. The lack of faith in the west cannot be wholly supported by the Asians or the Middle east for that matter. The west is a clear reflection of impatience for desires.Kjvenus 21:07, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, forget that I called Islam a western religion. It was a poor choice of terminology. However, I stand by my claim that religious hatred is primarily a phenomenon of Islam, Christianity, and perhaps Judaism, which share a common origin as Abrahamic religions. Marco polo 21:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesia is largely a long chain of volcanoes, and thus very fertile, which is good for population growth. But it is also the world's largest muslim country (by population). So why didn't they kill each other off then? Maybe it's because they are not that fanatic about it. So maybe it has nothing to do with religion. Maybe it's the attitude of people. Maybe Asian cultures are so old that they have learned to live together. The rise of Europe is very recent compared to the cultures or India, China and Indonesia (incidentally the most densely populated ones). Maybe we westerners are so uncivilised because we still have to prove ourselves. A teenager's tantrums? Just a wild guess. DirkvdM 05:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't say "very recent", as the Minoan civilization goes back to around 3650 BC. StuRat 15:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But that civilisation died a long time ago and the present European culture can't trace its roots back to it afaik. The only big civilisation it has some relation to is the Roman empire, but that realluy be called a continuos civilisation. DirkvdM 07:42, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also check out List of countries by population density. Note that India and China are not all that high on the list - out of 230 countries, India is in place 31, China in place 71 and Indonesia in place 84. Also note that the western country that is bigger than a city state that is highest on the list is the Netherlands. So if population density is a result of civilisation ... :) (of course living in a fertile delta also helps). DirkvdM 05:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Population density probably isn't all that connected to civilisation level. Bangladesh, a third world country, is above the Netherlands. However, it fits your flood delta hypothesis... TERdON 02:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other than russian, what language is spoken in the Ukraine? Ukaranese?

Ukranian. Яussiaп F 11:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(after edit conflict) This is a question for the Language Ref Desk, but Ukrainian is the sole official language of Ukraine. It is the native language of 67.5% of the population; Russian is native for 29.6%. JackofOz 11:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've not been to Ukraine for a while, but when I was last there, Polish was a popular language choice in Ukrainian schools. --Dweller 14:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Polish, hebrew/ yiddish

1st September 1923

thx, --William dady 11:39, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AAAAAAAHHHHHHH! NO NEED TO YELL!

Seriously, you don't have to put the title in all uppercase letters. Яussiaп F 11:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The 1923 Great Kanto earthquake. Laïka 12:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Saturday. In future, this site is best for these questions.--Shantavira 12:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! What parameters are usually easily adjustable for the owner of a stock car? What I have in mind are things having to do with suspension (damping, caster, camber, …), fuel and air flow, power steering, electronic systems (non-locking brakes, speed control, …) or the like. By "easily", I mean without having to buy everything new, because then, of course, anything is possible. It might also be interesting to know what can be done slightly less easily. An example of the latter would be changing springs, is that feasible? —Bromskloss 12:43, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What are you trying to achieve? --Justanother 16:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, really. At some point, I might want to toy around with a car on a race track or similar and then it would be a good thing to tune it for better performance – stiffening the suspension, for example. —Bromskloss 23:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You should get a copy of the book "How to make your car handle" by Fred Puhn. Here it is at Amazon. It's a very well-written step by step guide to fine-tuning the stock suspension of your car, plus inexpensive bolt-on upgrades that will really improve the handling. Have fun! 192.168.1.1 8:35, 24 Rocktober 2006 (PST)

Quick and dirty; you want to decrease roll rate and reduce unsprung weight. For the first, stiffer springs, "better" tires (easiest and cheapest - stiffer sidewalls on high speed and low profile tires), larger wheels, anti-roll bars. For the second, lightweight wheels and other unsprung components. More advanced techniques involve lightening the body, balancing the weight distribution and improving chassis stiffness. Chassis stiffeners are available for some vehicles to reduce chassis flex and unintended weight transfer. Oh, if you are starting from scratch, start with a car that already has decent handling and that reasonably-priced upgrades are available for. --Justanother 13:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tips. —Bromskloss 09:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are very welcome --Justanother 12:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you racing yourself? —Bromskloss 13:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't thank us yet. I do track days on my motorcycle, and it's a lot like taking drugs: Intense high, somewhat dangerous, very expensive, and extremely addicting. Next year when your credit cards are all maxed out and your car is plastered with racing club decals you'll probably hate us! But in any case, you'd be surprised at how inexpensive the first steps are. As Bromskloss said, tires are probably going to get you the most immediate improvement. Get a GOOD tire gauge, and inflate them to the correct pressure for what you will be doing. Using Puhn's book, check and correct your alignment, then get stiffer anti-roll bars and bushings. You will feel an immediate difference. Total outlay: Under a grand. 192.168.1.1 5:05 PM, 26 Rocktober 2006 (PST)

I am searching for the owner (possibly previous owner) of a restaurant which was called "Simple Simon".

My Grandfather's brother used to run the restaurant. I believe he was born between 1915-1920. My Grandfather recently passed away and had lost touch with his brother "Joseph Ryan also known as Francis (Frank) Ryan.

The Manager of the restaurant was named "Pearl".

If you have any info on the restaurant as it may have changed names, I would be really greatful. I would love to get in touch with either my Grandfather's brother if he is still alive as I have many unanswered questions.

Thanks,

Maria (Mississauga, Ontario, Canada)

The restaurant seems not to be in existence. If you go to this site and search under "Residential" for Ryan in Grafton, NSW, you will see some listings. Another approach might be to contact the Clarence Regional Libary, which is the public library for the area around Grafton, to see if they have old directories that list the restaurant or your great uncle and their addresses. You might then contact the occupants at those addresses to see if they know anything about your great uncle. Marco polo 15:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably not pertinent, but the early logo of the Howard Johnson's American restaurant chain was Simple Simon and his dog meeting up with the Pieman. That sounds almost too Stephen King, but it was a nice logo. Mothperson cocoon 11:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What are some of the most famous and recognisable photographs? I'm attempting to gather a collection of them. I already found photos of Raising the flag on Iwo Jima, Marilyn Monroe's dress rising up, Thich Quang Duc's self-immolation, Albert Einstein sticking his tongue out, Che Guevera, Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse and the September 11 attacks. Are there any others? Pesapluvo 16:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The picture of Sharbat Gula is very, very famous. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 16:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Apollo 11 First step on the moon and the one with the flag. Very famous. And the one below with the little girl - good pick. --Justanother 16:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Two from the Vietnam War - the one of the guy being executed with a gunshot to the head, and the one of the little girl fleeing from a napalm attack. Sorry but I can't provide references for either of these, although I feel sure we must have articles about both of them. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 16:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Found the first one - Nguyen Van Lem. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 17:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Second is Phan Thị Kim Phúc. Rmhermen 17:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I too have thought about making such a collection. Please do let us know what you end up with (or how you proceed along the way). For now, let's make a list right here. I include suggestions already made and some of my own (but you keep stealing them from me!). You're welcome to extend it as more images drop in.

• Raising of flag on Iwo Jima
• Marilyn Monroe's dress rising up
• Thích Quảng Đức's self immolation
• Einstein sticking his tongue out (flipped version, or is it the other way around?)
• Che Guevara
• Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse (suggestion)
• Attack on World Trade Center in New York City (there aren't many pictures of the other sites, are there?)
• First step on the moon (Did you mean this one, or perhaps this? I can think of several other.)
• Sharbat Gula
• Execution of Nguyen Van Lem
• Phan Thị Kim Phúc, running naked after napalm attack
• Atomic bombing of Nagasaki
• Tiananmen Square protests (alternative)
• Wright brothers and their flying machine
• Soviet flag on German Reichstag
• Sailor and nurse celebrate the end of World War II
• View from the Window at Le Gras – early photograph
• Cottingley fairies
• Richard Nixon V sign (alternative)
• Migrant Mother
• John F. Kennedy Jr. salutes his father's casket (more versions)
• Loch ness monster
• The Stairs
• John F. Kennedy motorcade (high resolution) (Perhaps a photograph from after the shooting is more recognisable.)
• The Blue Marble
• Toppling of Saddam Hussein statue
• Saddam Hussein, captured (not too sure about this one)
• Mahatma Gandhi (Is this one well-known?)
• Juri Gagarin (Or is it just me that's too much of a space flight junkie?)
• Earth rise (Apollo 10) (Probably better version (Apollo 11))
  • Actually, the famous one is the one from Apollo 8. howcheng {chat} 20:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Kiss by the Hotel de Ville (Or is it Kiss by the sidewalk?)
• Kent State massacre
• Malcolm X behind curtains
• Conrad Schumann flees East Germany (alternative)
• Abbey Road
• Construction workers on a girder (More info, please.)
• Valley of Death
• Hindenburg
• Nuremberg trials (Vote me down if I'm getting off limits here.)
• Train wreck at Montparnasse
• Home of a Rebel Sharpshooter (Is President Lincoln on the Battle-field of Antietam also famous?)
• Death of a Loyalist Soldier (alternative)
• Omaha Beach landing – landing craft (open)

Also possibly well-known:

• Omaha Beach landing – landing craft (closed)
• Omaha Beach landing – running soldiers
• Omaha Beach landing – crawling soldier
• Build-up of Omaha Beach

—Bromskloss 17:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note that some of those pics were staged, such as the Marilyn Monroe pic (anything from a movie is obviously "staged"). I believe the Iwo Jima pic was also staged, as the actual flag raising was not dramatic enough for the photographers. StuRat 20:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not true re: Iwo Jima pic. See Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima for the full story. howcheng {chat} 20:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I refer to the original smaller flag raising as the "real" one. The much larger flag-raising, done with a large group of photographers at the ready, strikes me as being more about publicity. StuRat 15:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Of course we can always google "most famous photographs" and look here --Justanother 17:04, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about the pic of a US sailor kissing a woman after WW2 had just been won: [9] ? Or JFK Jr. saluting his father's casket: [10] ? StuRat 17:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Then there's this pic of a mother and her two children during the great Depression: [11]. StuRat 17:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Then there's the man standing in front of a line of Chinese tanks, famous everywhere but in China, where the entire event has been censored from history: [12]. StuRat 17:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Then there's this pic of Richard Nixon: [13]. StuRat 17:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That german soldier throwing a grenade, where is that from? Joneleth 17:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See the photographs listed in Category:Photographs (includes "Tank Man" and several of the others mentioned above). --Shantavira 17:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another (and another military one) is Robert Capa's image of the soldier dying during the Spanish Civil War. Going farther back you would include the Valley of Death picture from the Crimea and the Sniper's Nest image by Mathew Brady from the American Civil War. Rmhermen 17:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Spanish Civil War photo was also staged I believe. DirkvdM 06:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That famous faked photo of the little girls with the fairies. The famous 'Loch ness' photo (the grainy one)[14]. Anchoress 18:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Karsh's pictures of Hemingway and Churchill, the picture of the rainy staircase at Montmartre. The pic of pregnant Demi Moore.

Robert Doisneau's The Kiss. The one of a group of construction workers sitting high up on a girder, eating their lunch. Anyone got a reference for that? --Richardrj ^{talk email} 18:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Charles C. Ebbets http://www.globalgallery.com/prod_images/bm-l191.jpg MeltBanana 19:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is really the deal with this and similar photos? I mean, are any of them real or anything? (Not that fake ones necessarily are disqualified from our list.) —Bromskloss 22:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• The shootings at Kent State University --LarryMac 18:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They're really in a different category (historically), but there are a lot of really famous celebrity photos: the one of Muhammad Ali with his baby, the pic of Hendrix at Woodstock, the pic of Mick Jagger at Altamont when he realised what was happening in the audience, the pic of Audrey Hepburn (I think on the cover of Time), a few Annie Leibowitz pics; the one of Whoopi Goldberg in a tub of milk, the one from the Rolling Stone cover of Fleetwood Mac all in bed together. Paul McCartney in Japan when he was busted for marijuana possession. The famous Sir Edmund Hillary portrait. Also a few sports pics; Jesse Owens crossing the finish line, the photo finish at the '88 olympics between Johnson and Lewis, the pics of Zola Budd being tripped. Also, they're not individual shots necessarily, but some of the photos of JFK in Dallas, Dr King and Malcolm X at the times of their assassinations are really famous. Anchoress 18:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More info (links, really) would be nice. I'm afraid most of them are unfamiliar to me and were not to be found in their respective articles (or Commons, as far as I could see). —Bromskloss 21:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about Image:Yalta Conference.jpg, Lenin & peekaboo Trotsky [15] and [16], Image:Pepper's.jpg and, not as famous as it should be, Hirohito examines his tubas http://www.badscience.net/?p=242 MeltBanana 21:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are they really famous? I'm not sure I have seen them before. But lol, those tubas. :-) —Bromskloss 21:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sergeant Pepper's can't count. It's a collage, not a photograph... 惑乱 分からん 22:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, but Abbey Road must count, right? —Bromskloss 22:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh, oh, yeah!... 惑乱 分からん 23:07, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen one where a train has just been unable to stop and crashed through the wall at the second floor of a building (from the inside). Anyone knows what I'm talking about? —Bromskloss 22:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Train wreck at Montparnasse 1895.jpg, lovingly recreated at a Brazilian museum http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/photo301966.htm MeltBanana 22:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely, it's on the list. And the recreation was funny, with smoke and all. :-) —Bromskloss 23:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• For a more modern example, how about looking to the one of the Goatse Man? Probably one of the most iconic images of the 21st Century thus far, IMO [17] - especially to anyone who's been online for any period of time... --Kurt Shaped Box 23:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note that most photos mentioned so far are US-related. Of course this is in part to do with the US having been very much into photography, not in the least for promotional purposes, which of course also makes all the difference here (it's not about quantity or quality but fame). Another reason is that most people here are from the US and the rest from US influenced countries. Photos of the US lunar landing are famous around here, but how many people have ever seen the first photo of the far side of the Moon? Not the greatest of photos, but like I said, that's irrelevant here. For a million years people have been looking up at the Moon and this was the first time they could see the far side. No small event, I'd say. And it's not just the event, it's the photo itself that is important. For some more photos that should be famous, check this out. Ok, maybe not famous. :) DirkvdM 06:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and of course we shouldn't forget the first photograph ever. DirkvdM 06:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC) - Oops, that is already on the above list. DirkvdM 06:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm actually not so sure it's the first photo, but as long as it's well-known, I guess it's fine. Which brings us to the question – is it? Or is it just people like you and I, who are interested in technology, that know about it? —Bromskloss 08:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, don't ask me, I'm one of those people who are like you and I. :) Anyway, I didn't know several of those US photographs, so it's also a regional thing. Funny, I only know parodies and such of Monroe's rising dress - I had never seen the original photo. And I actually once built a model of the Wright brothers airplane, not knowing what it was. Funny, I don't remember having ever seen this photograph, but I must have based the model on something. I probably only remember my model and not the photo. :) DirkvdM 09:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another Vietnam war one, not in the article is of the buddhist monk burning himself in protest. [18] DirkvdM 06:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's already there. Look for "Thích Quảng Đức". —Bromskloss 08:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also note that this is much influenced by iconisation. Also, ironically, the more photographs there are of a person or event the less likely one of them will become famous. I can't think of a single famous photograph of Hitler, which is odd, if you think about it. Or maybe an effort was made to not make him into an icon. The reason I came to think of Hitler is that it irritates me I can't think of many European famous photographs. Maybe that is because, apart from WWII, nothing too shocking has happened in Europe since photography became widespread. DirkvdM 06:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Picture of the railway line leading into Auchwitz concentration camp as well as many, too many pictures of Prisoners in WWII Nazi camps

This one? Isn't it the site that is famous (er… well-known, in any case) rather than the photo? And as for prisoner pictures, I think we are looking for notable individual photographs rather than a notable kind of photographs, but please suggest individual photos that you think fit. —Bromskloss 12:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• the Billy the Kid left-handed gun photo(hotclaws**== 11:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Is it well-known? Apparently, the photo is flipped, so he was probably not left-handed. —Bromskloss 12:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Surely there must be one of the folks dancing on or smashing down the Berlin Wall that would qualify? Lemon martini 09:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any particular one you have in mind? Because I think that't what we are looking for. None of the photos on Commons were familiar to me. —Bromskloss 09:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Art photo seem to be underrepresented. What about the nude woman as a violin by Man Ray or Ansel Adams' images of Half Dome or Taos? Rmhermen 20:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• A german soldier jumping over the first fence between East and West Berlin. TERdON 02:15, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

next president? what do the polls say? --Moscowcoupattempt 17:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See 2008 U.S. Presidential election and Potential Democratic candidates in the 2008 United States presidential election. Rmhermen 17:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I bet my right arm neither will win or even make it very far at all. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 18:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldnt care for either, and like Mac, dont think either will go far..--The Corsair. 22:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which country? Russia? DirkvdM 06:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone help me? I am trying to find Winona Rider's Bacon number. Any ideas? Thanks. 18:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

The number is two. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 18:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On Wikipedia, her Bacon number is three. Kevin Bacon's Ryder number is, however, only two :) GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 19:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Winona Ryder has a Bacon number of 2.

Winona Ryder was in Lost Souls (2000) with Alfre Woodard Alfre Woodard was in Beauty Shop (2005) with Kevin Bacon" (http://oracleofbacon.org/cgi-bin/oracle/movielinks?firstname=Bacon,%20Kevin&game=1&secondname=Ryder,+Winona) Aaadddaaammm 00:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think GeeJo is referring to another game where you link through wikipedia content, not through movies. Bacon numbers usually refer to movies. --Justanother 01:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do more men or women eat peanut butter? Race, class? X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 19:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

go buy a $2000 market report mac. www.the-infoshop.com

let me know what you find and we'll start a company to target the recommended niche, then we can do market research on ridiculous things that you bring up during a brainstorm session, like whether or not the sexes differ on peanut butter consumption.

Dogs eat peanut butter regardless of their sex. Mothperson cocoon 10:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Friendster was basically the same kind of site as MySpace, but it never took off in the way that MySpace has. Why was this? Was it an idea that was ahead of its time? --Richardrj ^{talk email} 21:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CampusNetwork was another early site which did not take off as big as the winners.Edison 22:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The biggest factor in my opinion is luck. Other factors include the setup (MySpace may have been easier to use) and level of appeal (MySpace's base was local bands and it just evolved off that base to a broader one). --AstoVidatu 21:50, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is the exact definition of freedom? Is it the american mindset or way of thinking that is being imposed around the globe? Can there be a difference between freedom granted in Iraq and that being practiced in the US? What exactly is the whole idea behind the american dreams? Is it a world of illusion and materialistic contentment that the world is compelled to chase? Why is there high levels of impatience for desires? Kjvenus 22:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note to anyone that was thinking of responding with fury: Don't. That is, do respond if you wish, but pleas do it calmly and with a forgiving attitude. Thanks. —Bromskloss 22:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

…and pleas teach me how to spell. —Bromskloss 22:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's spelled please. ;) --WikiSlasher 08:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Woo. Lets see. A toughie.

1.Freedom, I beleive, is the ability to do what you want, as long as you dont impede on others freedoms. I think freedom would be pretty well liked all across the globe, and by its definition, it wouldnt be imposed on anyone.

2.Can there be a difference? I dont really understand that. I think that there could be the same level of freedom in Iraq as that in the US, if thats what you mean. I beleive they would like freedom, such as the ability to wear what theyd like without getting their heads lopped off and their bodies incinerated. Saddam certainly wasnt giving them that. 3. The American dream, as defined by Wikipedia, is:

The American Dream is a subjective term usually implying a meaningful, successful and satisfying life. This term usually implies financial security and material comfort, but can also imply a dream of fame, exceeding social, ethnic, or class boundaries, or simply living a fulfilling life. Perceptions of the American dream are usually framed in terms of American capitalism, its associated meritocracy, and the freedoms guaranteed by the U.S. Bill of Rights.

As to whether it is a world of materialistic contentment the world is compelled to chase, I suppose that depends on your interpretation of it and your outlook on life, as well as your religious beliefs and personal standards. I think its the fundamental want for a stable life for you and your family, and as such, I dont find it to be wrong.--The Corsair. 22:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I counted 6 questions, unfortunately I can only answer one. SO please choose which of the 6 question , you want me to answer. 202.168.50.40 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The respondents are giving or unable to give a concrete and a constructive response. There are many who despite not having attained the american tag name have yet a materialistic and fulfilling life. Like the consumer spending in India is rising at an alarming rate, people in the middle east like dubai , and other modern arab states also have a materialistically fulfilling life. What is the ideology behind the spirit of freedom? How can one draw the line between impatience for desires and self confidence to attain them despite having the accessibility to the desires? Kjvenus 22:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You see, you talk about the American dream, ask about it, but then give an Indian example. I bet there is an Indian dream too. The American tagname was simply given because America has more rights then alot of places, but not all. Its simply a name, dont look into it as some sort of worldwide American takeover attempt. You can call it the Indian dream too, and I cant think of many people who wouldnt wish said Indian and whoever else wishes to achieve a satisfying life the best of luck. Look past the name, and into the actual concept. And, respectfully, dont try to put words in my mouth, as I can see that this might be where this discussion is going to go.--The Corsair. 22:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also see many people in my life who have desires, but dont have an impatience to reach them, as you say. Think about teachers, firemen, social workers. They dont make millions, but they lead satisfying lives. You act like all Americans are tax cheating billionares who step on poor fieldworkers to get to the big time or something. --The Corsair. 22:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Im afraid, also, that im having slight difficulties understanding your statements. Ive already told you the ideology behind freedom, and you seem to act like the "American Dream" somehow states that people in Dubai cant make money too. Ive never heard or seen this. I honestly dont see how you could come to that conclusion, and your statements are mainly nebulous and in the form of questions. Perhaps you could clarify what you wish to discuss?--The Corsair 22:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you're willing to discuss at all. You just seem interested in pushing your own viewpoints, with rhetorical leading questions... 惑乱 分からん 23:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My thoughts exactly, Wakuran. I see he has left, however.--The Corsair 23:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Freedom's just another word for 'nothing left to lose'." StuRat 05:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you keep asking the same question? What is your obsession with impatience?  --Lambiam^Talk 06:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wiktionary says it is the state of being free. Freedom (philosophy) and Freedom (political) are two useful Wikipedia articles. It is not "the american mindset or way of thinking that is being imposed around the globe". People thought about freedom long before the birth of the US I'm sure.

Can there be a difference between freedom granted in Iraq and that being practiced in the US? Yep, countries around the world have different laws regarding copyrights, alcohol/drug consumption, gambling, flying planes, wearing seatbelts, taxes, setting off fireworks among other things. This applies to Iraq too. There are actually many laws passed that are for people's own good and technically these could be considered to be restricting people's freedoms.

Is it a world of illusion and materialistic contentment that the world is compelled to chase? It is probably impossible for some people to be truly satisfied. Even now with electricity, water, heating, broadband Internet access, video games and a decent computer I know I will always want something more. --WikiSlasher 08:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Buddha claimed that desire causes misery, on the other hand, you could say that Human curiosity and dissatisfaction has led us to where we are today, but on the other hand again, you could say that that isn't necessarily a good thing... 惑乱 分からん 17:42, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Technically there is a definitive limit to how free you can get, when your able to do whatever you want whenever you want and however you want, then you are per definition completely free (but yes that in most cases do limit the freedom of others but who ever said anarchism was practical). Joneleth 17:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am searching for my brother in laws' Parents. Their names were George Richard McMahon and Dorothy Irene Reidy McMahon.He thinks they are from or born in Washington,Indiana. Can you help me?

Ancestry.com has lots of info. They have everyone listed in the U.S. Census through the one in 1930, every deceased person who had a social security number, and lots of public records. You would need more to go on than you provided, such as their approximate years of birth. Edison 22:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If they were born after 1930 it might be difficult, census records are private until 70 some years after they are taken, hence the 1930 census being the 'newest' one released just a few years ago. You might contact the Washington public library, local libraries often have old city directories as well as birth and death indexes. Nowimnthing 00:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What are the specifics of the early '60's versions of these vehicles? I need to know the Miles per gallon, Ease of repair, and the durability.-- Meteshjj _{We come from the land} ^{of the ice and snow} 22:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The "ease of repair" varies greatly depending on how mechanically inclined you are. They are easier to work on than a TJ would be since there are no computer controlled parts to have to work with. Durability is variable depending on how the vehicle is kept. If the Jeep was kept in a garage in a warm climate without salt water in the area, then it should have been kept up and should remain durable for years to come. I've seen many CJs that were in better condition than some TJs. I suggest you ask around at various Jeep message boards. . Dismas|^(talk) 00:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I want to buy an early 60's CJ-5A from someone in Butte, Montana. The climate is cold, but the town is at leas 500 miles away from the coast.-- Meteshjj _{We come from the land} ^{of the ice and snow} 01:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the salt water comes from the salt they spread on the roads, there, so it likely has rust. StuRat 04:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Without having seen the vehicle in question, it's impossible to say if it's going to be worthy of purchase. A geographical location just doesn't give enough information to make an educated determination of the vehicles well being. Has it been off road? If so, how much? Was it garage kept? Is there rust on the rocker panels or in the wheel wells? What does the frame look like? Is the frame rusty? What engine is in it? Is it the original engine or has it been replaced? If so, what is the replacement engine, e.g. Ford, Chevy, etc.? How many miles are on the engine? Does it burn oil? Older Jeeps are easy to work on and many of them no longer have all the original equipment. They are one of the most modified vehicles with a huge aftermarket parts selection. What little information you have given us is simply not enough to make a good determination as to whether it would be a good vehicle for you. Partially because I doubt many people here are as into Jeeps as I am. I really do feel that it would be in your best interest to go to a Jeep message board, such as the one I suggested, and ask people who are more familiar with Jeeps and their maintenance. Dismas|^(talk) 06:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The best place to buy old cars is from Arizona or New Mexico. Dry, no snow, no salt. That is why the military has thousands of planes "mothballed" there out in the open. For a look, put 32.161730° -110.841466° in Google Earth. --Justanother 19:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

is there a specific person that came up with these united states abbreviation

Which ones ? US state postal abbrevs ? StuRat 04:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The United States postal abbreviations appear to be created in 1963 by the USPS. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 05:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviations in general come forth due to practical reasons of not having to write long chains of letters again and again. 惑乱 分からん 11:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But also when you want to give the abbreviation some meaning (sometimes a deceptive meaning), which the full name lacks, like the infamous USAPATRIOT Act ("Who could be opposed to patriotism ?"). StuRat 20:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

82.13.44.29 23:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)Having already asked medical persons without getting a reply I wonder if anyone can tell me whether the above brain surgery could affect the limbic system. By this I mean the Olfactory system in respect of preception to odourants that were once pleasant and have now become nauseating now. --82.13.44.29 23:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just so you know, you only need to make your signature after a comment, not before. Яussiaп F 23:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know this probably isn't the right place to ask this but I was wondering if anyone here knew of how or where I could find out about a data entry job to work from home or other jobs that would allow me to work from home. Or to just guide me in the right direction. There are loads of these sites available but most seem like a scam.

Thank you.

You were right in saying there wasn't much of chance of finding it here. However, you could check with job sites such as Yahoo HotJobs and Monster.com. user:Celestianpower

Why is it that one's mind does not function as well just after they have woken up? Like, early in the morning, or if I wake up in the middle of the night, I find myself thinking and sometimes even doing stupid things. Example: a few nights ago, I woke up at 2 AM and decided to go hiking. I put my clothes on and then proceeded to walk a quarter of a mile into the woods before I realised how foolish I was being. Musli Miester 23:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think you may be suffering from sleepwalking sickness. I advise visiting the doctor 8-)--Light current 00:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's basically right. That is, it takes time for the brain to switch from one state to another. For example, I sometimes have no idea where I am when I wake up, until my brain starts to work properly. StuRat 04:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So it does do that occasionally? :) DirkvdM 06:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, my brain, as well as the rest of me, works. You should try it some time. :-) StuRat 06:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, thanks, I've already got enough on my mind with my own brain. DirkvdM 09:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah but you dont wake up wandering in the woods do you? If so Id see a lycanthropist--Light current 05:00, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The air inside a home becomes pretty stagnant overnight -- I'd suggest either opening a window in your room (if only a crack), or getting a fan blowing toward your face (on low setting, of course), or both. Chris 02:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, there is correlation between being drunk and being tired. Some police officers pull over people who are tired thinking they're drunk, but they have no alochol in their systems. This was referenced in a traffic book somewhere, I believe. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 05:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And consequently don't fine them. I heard that from a woman in Seattle who had three jobs and almost fell asleep when driving, so the police stopped her. At first they were very rude, assuming she was drunk. When they realised she wasn't they were all apologies. She was still a hazard, but she hadn't been drinking, so that was ok then. DirkvdM 06:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yup! driving whilst tired/asleep can be much more dangerous than whilst drunk/drugged and should carry the same penalties. Or the culprit could be subjected to a HP water hose with freezing cold water. Many people are asleep whilst driving to work. One woman took the front of my car off the other day by reversing across me at about 30mph! (eyes wide shut presumably 8-))--Light current 15:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Back to walking the line. Tests for alcohol have become more sophisticated but have started to ignore what it's about. Just do some simple physical tests or motoric control. DirkvdM 09:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah but what the test for just plain stupidity? Duh?/ 8-)--Light current 00:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? You want to test people for their stupidity? DirkvdM 07:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 25

Who would you say was/is the best military commander/strategist in the history of warfare? Jamesino 00:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Remember that "best" is only decided by opinions, so technically there is no "best". —Preceding unsigned comment added by The velociraptor (talk • contribs)

Alexander the Great and Attila the Hun leap to mind. Perhaps Genghis Khan aswell, though im slightly biased for my like of ancient nomadic armies like the Monglians and Huns.--The Corsair 01:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like Zhuge Liang, it was unfortunate he died so soon. bibliomaniac15 02:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For strategist, I would go with Sun Tzu, although I did disagree with one assertion of his in The Art of War. He said one should always go for a quick, surprise attack (what was later called Blitzkrieg). If you are not strong enough to defeat an opponent in that manner, however, a war of attrition can be a more effective strategy. StuRat 04:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Erwin Rommel? Dismas|^(talk) 06:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree with Dismas about Rommel, although he was more into 'grand tactics' than strategy (his strategic hands were kept firmly bound by the meddling on the part of German High Command, as when Rommel wished to make a withdrawal at Alamein but received a missive from Hitler ordering him to stand or die: the point is that Rommel's true strategic prowess was, unfortunately, never truly put to the test). Curiously, history tends to better remember, and praise, great generals who win spectacular battles (Hannibal), than great generals (such as Scipio Africanus) who win wars quickly by masterful strategic strikes. The best strategist, I would say, would have to be Julius Caesar. Best commander, Rommel. The Crying Orc 08:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ghenghis Khan. And maybe Rommel. Яussiaп F 11:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For a ruthlessly effective commander of small units of ill equipped ragtag soldiers able to routinely defeat larger groups of better equipped soldiers, consider Nathan Bedford Forrest. Not to say he was a "good" man, just that you would not want him at large in your military area. Ditto for Otto Skorzeny Edison 17:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Id say Napoleon, he reformed the entire military system and was a master of both tactics and strategy, not to mention leaving a serious footprint in military thinking after his death. Joneleth 17:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think most historians would say Alexander the Great. He conquered almost the entire known world in a decade using Bronze age technology, mostly on the strength of his ability to lead them. The mongols did almost as well, but not because of their leadership. They did so well using technology against which there was no counter (until the development of powder weapons in the 14th century). Historically, I'd say Napoleon ranks a distant second. After Napoleon, it gets tougher - Narses and Belisarius are way up there. In modern times, I'd put Raymond A. Spruance up there (he never lost a battle and never made a mistake). Raul654 17:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thats a hard one, Sun Tzu does leap to mind for his ideas of preserving "your" troops and looking for "the pass where one man can hold off a thousand." For contribution to his own army Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov who of course invented the AK47 after noticing how much of an advantage the Germans had in street fighting with their MP40s. I think we can safely award General Custer the wooden spoon here. As an English man I would have to sugest Lord Horatio Nelson, no body as had a greater effect on Naval stratagy. Then there is Field Marsham Montgomery, perhaps not as good as Rommel on paper but he did win. The Duke of Wellington? -- AMX 18:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)AMX[reply]

Oliver Cromwell was certainly notable for his emphasis on a "professional" military, composed of well-trained commoners, versus the former tradition (still practiced to some degree) of having the military be the playground for silly, rich officers "of high birth", with untrained and expendable commoners under them (rendering the fighting force rather ineffective). StuRat 19:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Subotai Khan and Horatio Nelson come to mind. B00P 20:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vo Nguyen Giap deserves a mention as an excellent military tactician of recent times, though I'd perhaps not put him in the same category as Alexander. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 09:27, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Cromwell did crop up in my thoughts, another good point StuRat, I didn't include him as his tactics aren't very well documented, I suspect this might be becuase they weren't very good or weren't his. Also it was more his determination to change the system that got him into power rather than his dedication to the military or his victories on the battle field. Also he was basically a communist, which doesn't do him any credit from a military point of view. --AMX 18:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)AMX[reply]

Rommel was one of my first thoughts, too. Here's my list:

Ancient Era

• Genghis Khan
• Alexander the Great
• Hannibal of Carthage
• Scipio of Rome
• Julius Caesar
• Attila the Hun

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

• Charlemagne

Revolutionary War Era

• George Washington

Civil War Era

• Ulysses S. Grant
• Robert E. Lee
• Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson

WWII Era

• Erwin Rommel
• George Marshall
• Dwight Eisenhower
• Bernard Montgomery
• Horatio Nelson

... and plenty others that have escaped me.

There is no one best out of these, they all are great for their own reasons.

--Porsche997SBS 00:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed --AMX 12:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)AMX[reply]

What's the origin of "A winnar (or winar or even winrar) is you! VICTOLY!"? --froth^{T C} 00:42, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds Engrish to me... Some video game? Btw, perhaps this question should be asked at the language section. 惑乱 分からん 00:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I found it. "A winner is you!" (further jumbled) is from the NES game Pro Wrestling and "VICTOLY!" is from the Arcade/Neo Geo game Samurai Shodown IV. 惑乱 分からん 01:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

mmm I think that may be it. thanks --froth^{T C} 01:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone happen to know the name of the male model on the Ralph Lauren Fall 2006 campaign? Assuming they don't change the site, his pic is here (wearing the orange cashmere top): http://www.polo.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=1766205 and here: http://polo.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pPOLO2-3070775_lifestyle_t208.jpg If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated! --Assassin007 01:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do you correctly cite wikipedia?

At the top of this page, there is a link that says "How to cite Wikipedia." Philbert^2.71828 01:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can then cite it in MLA or whatever you wish. --Proficient 23:20, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

looking for a website that gives a list of average car lease rates for common cars, all without having to submit a name.

So make up a name and email address. howcheng {chat} 03:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I do. But apparently, so do many others, as my favorite fake email address ("NOYFB@NOYFB.COM") is frequently already taken. :-) StuRat 04:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

None Of Your Fucking Business? Dismas|^(talk) 06:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You've got it. :-) StuRat 15:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I find the idea of requiring people to put in stuff in first name and last name incredibly stupid, address, telephone no., city, postcode etc. as well. I mean I can understand it for PayPal or something but not something trivial like lists of lease rates or hotmail addresses. --WikiSlasher 11:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. When I'm asked to give out personal info I ask myself "What could they possibly do with this info that would be in my interest ?". The answer is typically "absolutely nothing", hence the fake info I supply. StuRat 15:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hear hear - there are a *lot* of websites which are trying to find me by looking for the Grand Nagus in the Tower of Commerce on Ferenginar - zip, of course, is 90210. --Mnemeson 20:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But aren't you interfering with their God-given right to make a profit by withholding this info ? Can even the Grand Nagus behave in such a way and not be tried for treason ? :-) StuRat 01:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll bet there're lots of funny responses to such unwanted questions, we should make a web site with them all. When Radio Shack used to require my name and address (so they could send junk mail), whenever I made a purchase, I was usually just good old Ben Dover. Also, some businesses try to pump you for this info when you call them on the phone. I've started to get more aggressive, in turn: "My name is 'noneofyourbusiness'; now, how late are you open ?" Until now, I've been leaving the F out, but that may be subject to change, if they get any more aggressive about getting my personal info. :-) StuRat 00:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am interested in genealogy. My relative left Liverpool,England in Sept 1906. He arrived in Quebec City, Canada five days later. How do I find out in miles the distance between these ports? Is there a web site covering shipping distances? Thanks

Is getting a globe and measuring too inaccurate ? How precise does the answer need to be ? StuRat 04:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This page states that the distance from Quebec to Liverpool is 2600 miles.  --Lambiam^Talk 05:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I heard a lot of arguments that they're going to be replaced by the XM8, the SCAR, the P90, the Tavor, et cetera, et cetera. Can someone clarify if the military is going to replace them or not? The velociraptor 02:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See M16 rifle. Dismas|^(talk) 09:01, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plough-shares. --Dweller 16:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And it's about time. I love it. --Justanother 19:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you guys like gurls with tongue rings? An-Mat.br 03:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Depends. Music tastes might be a factor. The velociraptor 04:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only sea gurls.  --Lambiam^Talk 05:30, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like them. --WikiSlasher 08:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely depends, and mostly, probably, on the nature of male which the female in question is trying to attract. Personally, I find even thinking about tongue piercings to be repugnant. So, consider what sort of male might be attracted to a tongue piercing (and not some other attribute of the female), and base decisions on that (i.e. whether attracting that sort of male is a positive or a negative thing, for you or whatever person involved). The Crying Orc 09:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like girls who can spell. But I shag men. --LarryMac 12:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TMI, Larry. StuRat 15:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since you're asking, any piercings turn me right off.--Shantavira 18:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do they deflate you?  --Lambiam^Talk 18:49, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They could certainly burst your bubble. :-) StuRat 19:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Teen's tongue piercing linked to extreme facial pain. User:Zoe|(talk) 02:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the 1974 Tehran Asian Games, T.C.Yohannan of India set a new Asian record of 8.07 m in long jump. There is a popular belief here in India that he was the first Asian to jump over 8 metres but apparently there was a Japanese athlete who had done it before Yohannan. Does anyone know the who/what/where of this person ? A source would be bonus as it can be later used when an article is created for Yohannan. Tintin (talk) 06:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Try as I might I can not squeeze this fact out of the internet, it's a frightening thought but I may not even be on the net. Here is what I found:

The man was accredited greatly for Japan's golden era in the triple jump, Chuhei Nambu died on July 23. He was 93. Nambu clinched the gold medal at the 1932 Los Angeles Olympic Games as well as the bronze in the long jump. After retirement, he worked as a sports journalist for Mainichi Newspaper, and later on taught at a number of universities. His jump record of 7 m 98 was not broken by another Japanese for 39 years.[19]

As Chuhei Nambu got 7.98m in 1931 it was probably either Shinji Ogura or Hiroomi Yamada who were the best Japanese 39 years later[20]. MeltBanana 19:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. A google for Yamada took me to http://web.telia.com/~u19603668/atb-m27.htm which contains the list of all 8+ jumps. Yamada did a 8.01 at Odawara on June 7, 1970. Tintin (talk) 06:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1) How many McDonald's are there in the United States

2) About how many cows and chickens are slaughtered each day to supply them?

thank you,

--CGP 11:00, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• If you mean people named McDonald: There are probably millions of people named McDonald in the USA. The US Census would be one place to start. Or, you could come up with a rough percentage using a sample based on the number of McDonalds in e.g. the New York phone directory. I doubt there would be any reliable data available about the eating habits of persons with a particular surname.
• If you mean the restaurants: I don't know. Others may be able to help you. JackofOz 12:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! I didn't think of that. I mean the fast food restaurant. --CGP 12:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm surprised that the article doesn't say although, curiously, McDonald's restaurants does. You might try writing to them for an exact figure. Dismas|^(talk) 13:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check here for an obviously biased view but it may be what you are interested in or have the information you seek. McCruelty --Justanother 14:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might be able to find some of that information (number of restaurants, at least) in the company's own publications—try the fact sheets and annual reports here. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just curious. Battle Ape 12:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about larger commercial aircraft. But small civilian aircraft have keys. Least all that I have seen/flown have. Dismas|^(talk) 13:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know that tanks don't, I assume that most military equipment also doesn't. Jon513 14:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"This is your captian speaking. We are somewhat delayed. I left my keys back home." DirkvdM 09:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For that matter, do ships have keys? I know my father's motorboat has a key, but it's only 5 m long (the boat, not the key). How about a big 300 m ocean liner? JIP | Talk 16:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't that a bit like asking whether a steam locomotive has a key? The technology is just too different. There's probably not even a lock on the boiler room door. The actual key to starting these things is the key to the bridge, or the cockpit.--Shantavira 08:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, so if I could actually get to the bridge, then all I would have to do would be something like pressing a big red button? JIP | Talk 10:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Smaller prop planes like Cessnas usually demand a key to be turned, but larger, commercial aircraft do not. I believe this has actually been asked and answered before. :)As for helicopters, I have never seen one, but I do not rule out that some, very small, personal helicopters do. 81.93.102.3 14:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dear User

What is the stipulated manufacturing quality that a vehicle like jaguar is expected to have

Thanks

About the only form of "stipulated quality" for a car is the warrantee, which means they promise to replace parts of the car (for free) if they fail within a certain time and mileage. Is that what you're asking about ? StuRat 15:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are certain tolerances specified in the manufacturing process, but those are used internally, not provided to the buyer. Is that what you're asking about ? If so, there are thousands of such tolerances specified, which ones are you interested in ? StuRat 15:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am from India, currently staying in the United States. I have recently been to the Appalachians, in Tenessee and North Carolina to see the fall colours. Can anybody tell me whether the trees change colour around Autumn in our grand old Himalayas? If not, why? and if we happen to see fall colours in the Himalayas, can anybody send me names of some of the decicuous trees there?

Hope to hear from you guys soon,

Best Regards, Didhiti

Most of the Himalayas is way above the tree-line, and you won't find any trees there. At the foot, though, there are extensive lowland forests: the Upper Gangetic Plains moist deciduous forests, covering most of Uttar Pradesh and portions of Uttaranchal, Haryana, Madhya Pradesh and Bihar, and the Lower Gangetic plains moist deciduous forests, covering most of Bangladesh and the Indian states West Bengal, Bihar, and Tripura, extending into Assam, Uttar Pradesh, and Orissa. Their being deciduous will be more a case of loss of foliage during the dry season than because of changes in temperature. I have no idea if there is any spectacular change of colour.  --Lambiam^Talk 18:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Needing a bit of information on not just handling a horse, but general stamina of an arabian thorough bred. Example of needed info: Distance and times for a cantering horse to wear out... amount of hydration needed to rehydrate after a 2 hour canter and a 1 hour walk all done in a desert during the heat of the day. Any guessed answer would be greatly appreciated. And if there are any handling sites known, it would be appreciated.

You may find the Arabian horse article useful. I can't give you the results you're looking for, but you might touch base with the Arabian Horse Association and see if they can point you in the right direction. (I'm assuming you're looking for Arabians, not an Arabian/Thoroughbred cross.) Tony Fox (arf!) 18:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to the legend of Al Khamsa, they can be led on a several-day journey without water through the desert without ill after effects. I wouldn't try this out on the poor horseys, but for this to be believable enough to survive as a legend, the stamina has to be considerable. Their use as the cavalry horse of choice suggests the same for the capacity to move fast. I'm sorry I can't give any numbers.  --Lambiam^Talk 18:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

American Endurance Ride Conference (AERC) would be your best source on fatigue and hydration, they have 100 mile races routinely finished by the winners in 12-13 hours. No horse is apt to canter or gallop two hours straight, when there's a lot of ground to cover, it's at the trot, with occasional breaks to the walk to catch their wind. Canter or gallop best for short open stretches, even a horse in excellent condition will get winded and not be able to go too far at one stretch. Horses under normal conditions drink 10-12 gallons of water per day, normally they can go about 2-3 days without water, 5 days without water as in the Al-Khamsa story is an outside extreme and there would be 'ill effects" even in a suburb animal, I know of a group of horses a couple years back in my area left without water for a week in the summer in a pen were found dead. Montanabw 06:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you all know of any state in the US and A or other nation in which it is totally legal to possess an operational firearm whilst a convicted felon? Thanks in Ad-Viz-ance.Perfect T 18:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I remain skeptical about answering questions about handguns to people signing off with Thanks in Ad-Viz-ance.... 惑乱 分からん 19:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to be skeptical about anything perhaps you would more want to be skeptical about a felon looking for a gun. But I say: Information doesn't kill people, people kill people. And I would rather have the felon working to get his civil rights restored than looking to buy a firearm he can't legally own. One route goes up, the other goes down. I'd rather set him on the upward path. --Justanother 19:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See here from a quick search. Quotes below.

1. Federal law generally makes it a felony for a person to be in possession of a firearm if the person has any prior felony conviction.

2. Federal law contains an explicit statutory exception which provides that the federal criminal offense of firearms possession is inapplicable to persons who have had their civil rights restored on the predicate state felony conviction.

--Justanother 18:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But there are state laws to the same effect. Are there states where there are no such laws?Perfect T 19:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What about other countries like France?Perfect T 19:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the Federal law trumps the state law in this matter unless the state law is more restrictive. But the point is YES, a convicted felon can own a gun if his rights are restored and state law does not prohibit it. Read the article I cite. For instance, in the TN one I cite, state law says that certain ex-felons can never own a hand gun again even if his rights are restored. But google it and add your state of interest. --Justanother 19:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What about other countries like France?Perfect T 19:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Google, my friend. At least until someone here can steer you. --Justanother 19:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whats the point of asking here if I'm just being told to "google" it myself. Be a team player my grasshopper. !Perfect T 19:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)![reply]

Cause why should I do work that you can easily do yourself? But perhaps that is the point of this "reference desk" (joke). I figured since I showed you how easy it was to get the US info and if perhaps you don't want to wait for a French lawyer to answer you here . . . --Justanother 20:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll be a "team player" (laff). You need to find someone to google it in French on the French google site. So in that case, unless you speak French, you are going to need some help. I can't provide it though. But someone here likely will; change the title of this question to ask about France. --Justanother 20:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that should be put in our FAQ: "What's the use of asking something here, if people tell me to look it up myself?". --Zeizmic 20:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, my bad. If I did not care to do more work I should have kept my "mouth" shut and let someone that cared to take it from there do so. I am new here and am sure that I am not the first to express a bit of frustration but really we answer these questions because we want to, not because we are forced to and I should have remembered WP:DBTN. I apologize to the other editors here and to question-asker. --Justanother 20:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would point out that the United States is known for having less restrictive laws on gun ownership than almost any other country. It is extremely unlikely that people convicted of serious crimes would be permitted to own guns anywhere in Europe. (According to the article felony, the term has meaning mainly in English-speaking countries.) Marco polo 20:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OMG, I hope *somebody* sees the joke in what I said! --Zeizmic 23:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I see the joke. Just that I really did not need to snap at the asker. I answer questions here because I like to research and I like to "get it right". I like to help others and learn something new myself too. For instance, I did not know about felons and firearms before I answered his question. I just knew it was one that I could easily find the answer to and now I am richer for having done it. But that is me. So it really doesn't matter if I am doing something I might think that the asker could easily do himself. Perhaps he can, perhaps he can't, he asked. We can answer or not, our individual choice. No need to snap. --Justanother 00:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you're looking about information on European gun laws this is a slightly out of date article which gives some basic information on European gun laws (note that many countries, notably France, have tightened their gun laws since then). In short, Marco Polo was right, we Europeans take a much tougher line on firearms than the US. If you can't obtain a firearm in the US, there is no way you can get one in Europe. This may be a stretch, but perhaps try a third-world country.......? — QuantumEleven 13:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think its legal in Russia, its law that you keep a working gun at home in Switzerland if you are male and over 21. Random interesting fact about Switzerland: all bridges are rigged with explosive charges and can be set off by remote in case of invasion. --AMX 18:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)AMX[reply]

What do you mean? That you're required by law to own a gun in Switzerland. citation needed Both your statements seem unlikely, and I would like some sources for them... 惑乱 分からん 20:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably something of the form of "all males over 21 have been conscripted and are in the reserve" via "all reservists keep their rifle at home"; Military of Switzerland mentions it in passing. Norway/Sweden did (has done?) something similar, IIRC. Reservists keeping their equipment at home isn't that unusual - in many countries reservists will have clothing, money, travel warrants and the like issued in advance and kept at hand for mobilisation. Issuing the firearms ahead of time is just incrementing that a little...

(Note the difference between "has to own" and "has to store", of course) Shimgray | talk | 21:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, okay, yeah, I think reservists in Sweden will get to own a rifle, but being a reservist is voluntary. There's some control at first of the applicant, to prevent guns getting into the wrong hands, but I think that the control has been considered too lax, and some accidents might have happened... Uhh, maybe that wasn't reservists, explicitly, see Swedish Home Guard. 惑乱 分からん 21:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Wikipedia,

I am trying to find out the name of a British Horror film of the 1930s or 1940s which was shot in black & white and contained a scene of a worker in a shop that was rendered deaf and blind by the evil antagonist. The film had a David Lean "Oliver Twist" feel to it as the London factories and shops may have looked during the 19th century. Does this information ring a bell with anyone in the "Horror Film" research department, or can you direct me to a site on the internet which may be able to answer my question? If so, I would be most appreciative.

Thank you,

David Walker

Perhaps this is a start I got by somewhat random googling Hammer Film Productions. --Justanother 19:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bit better googling. How about The Dark Eyes of London (1940) AKA The Human Monster. This Amazon site is how I found it because it goes into the deaf and blind thing; "i recall one scene that is a classic moment in horror movie history where bela lugosi, in order to punish one of his minions, deafens a man who is already blind and dumb. then he binds his arms and legs and throws him in a tub of water." Sound like it? --Justanother 19:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I read the Article on the Us Navy Seals, but I was unable to find the information. To become an officer within the Navy Seals, do you first have to go to college, join the navy, pass the academy then apply to become a SEAL? Could someone run me through the steps of becoming a US Navy SEAL officer after graduation fro high school? Thanks. --Jamesino 21:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is probably the place to look. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Yes, I saw that but I didn't understand. Jamesino 23:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Based on a quick read [here] and the related pages, I think that if you take and pass the SEAL challenge before enlisting you can get a SEAL contract that means that you are going to SEAL training after basic seaman training. If you join the Navy first you can take a test during basic, the Physical Screen Test (PST), but you might only get one shot at it. I found it a bit difficult to figure out, I am sure they would like you to talk to a recruiter and he can explain it. --Justanother 00:22, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ok, thanks. Jamesino 01:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are very welcome. Good luck! --Justanother 03:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mind a little friendly sarcasm? To become an officer within the Navy Seals, you first have to be born male. (This from a former rifle-toting estrogen-packing Navy chick). Durova 14:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What, no GI Jane? --Justanother 14:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Wikipedia, I'm a 7th grader doing a report on Anne Geddes, and I was wondering if you could possibly send me as much information about her and artists that do the same type of work as her to me. If you can e-mail it to me at <remove email for your own protection> and i'll get it through there. Thank you so much Sarah

You have to check back here for replies; it's a bad idea to put your email address up here. Have you checked the article on Anne Geddes? Skittle 22:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have had these Jolly Ranchers for a long time (they're hard candies). All of them have become at least slightly softened from sitting on my desk so long. If I put them in the freezer, will they become fully hard again? If so, how long (approximately) will this take? Does anyone have any other (feasible!) ideas on how to harden them? (limit: one sarcastic and/or pun-filled response) =) —EdGl 22:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC) P.S. Is this question at the right reference desk? It's a borderline science question I suppose.[reply]

That was just covered in Science! I learned a new word, it's Deliquescence. --Zeizmic 23:01, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but that doesn't really help me. Don't I need the opposite of deliquescence to happen? Can you explain your answer if possible? —EdGl 23:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps store them in a dry sealed environment together with a strong desiccant? Or keep them warm (not too hot, say at 100° C = 212° F or else they may melt or burn) so that they can dry out.  --Lambiam^Talk 23:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You need to de-deliquescent something, but I don't think the process is reversible. Once a goopy mess, always a goopy mess. --Zeizmic 23:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know it's not something you do at home but I wonder if a vacuum jar would do the trick (high school science lab)? But doesn't the fridge work? I can't see it taking long, overnight max. --Justanother 00:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or you could just buy a few more.. =p--The Corsair 01:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just pretend they're gummy candy and call them Soggy Ranchers. :-) StuRat 01:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My business teacher says he's heard that Bill and Melinda Gates were once out on a Sunday drive on their own and stopped for gas, and ran into trouble with the station attendant because they hadn't brought any money, credit or debit cards or ID, and couldn't convince the clerk that their credit was any good. Is this true? It conflicts with something else I've heard, namely that there are so many personal vendettas against Bill Gates that he never leaves home without bodyguards. It also seems odd to me that Gates would (even accidentally) risk a fine by driving without his license. NeonMerlin 22:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's one of those myths that surround famous people. Try Snopes.com. The velociraptor 23:49, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i have two bettas that i keep in the same tank, but with a glass seperater; one female, the other male. i want to breed them after december but i cant right now because of space issues, but i dont know if the male and female will get used to eachother or bored of eachother and not be "interested" in breeding after a few weeks or months. any tips or help would be good. thank you. -bettalover18

I would really get involved with the various news-groups and forums on fish raising. I did that for years and learned a lot. --Zeizmic 23:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

After bettas die, do they undergo betta decay ? :-) StuRat 01:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think he wants to start his own school of betta-testers. --Justanother 03:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In order to make them betta ? StuRat 05:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i dont know whether or not they'll get uninterested in each-other, but i'd like to know that too! somebody wanna answer that?

See Breeding Bettas--Porsche997SBS 00:55, 27 October 2006

EG: Yogurt, pudding, et cetera. And' don't give me "soquid". The velociraptor 23:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a Colloid (and a soquid..) --Zeizmic 23:50, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure that's right? The article states that milk is a colloid even if it isn't in a thickened form (per the examples). Isn't a colloid a liquid with something in suspension? To answer the OP, I'm not a scientist but I wonder if there is a proper term? Because I'd think the examples you gave would just be viscous liquids. When you say 'proper term', are you looking for something scientific, culinary, or something else? Anchoress 00:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Colloid is generally two substances combined, I thought? But it doesn't have to be a semi-liquid. However, what about a quasi-solid? --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 00:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I noticed that in the article. I was thinking also maybe 'gelatinous liquid', but I don't know what the exact boundaries of gelatinous are. Cuz they are thick liquids that would thin if heated, but... lol. Anchoress 00:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

HA HA .Slush! --Light current 00:28, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I found a new one: gel --Zeizmic 01:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I once read that, in room temperature, glass was considered a liquid with extremely high viscosity. 惑乱 分からん 01:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Glass isn't really a liquid; see Glass as a liquid68.231.151.161 02:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Our article states that this is a misconception, but then contradicts itself "There is no clear answer to the question "Is glass solid or liquid?". In terms of molecular dynamics and thermodynamics it is possible to justify various different views that it is a highly viscous liquid, an amorphous solid, or simply that glass is another state of matter which is neither liquid nor solid." It's all gobbledegook to me, so perhaps a boffin can clear this up, please? :-) --Dweller 09:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, since you ask for "state of matter" you need to look at phase. Gel is a good one but I think it is non-homogeneous at the molecular level, being some sort of colloid, and do not think it meets the definition of a phase. But look at pitch. This is so "solid-like" that it shatters when dropped but is still considered a liquid, albeit one with very high viscosity. Perhaps what you would like to call a semi-liquid is simply a liquid. --Justanother 03:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here is another good one for what you might call a pudding or a very damp Jolly Ranger, look at Paste (rheology). Kinda like gel (which I still like) or suspension or colloid. All these are NOT states of matter but are mixtures, IMO. --Justanother 03:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anything (even rock) will flow if subjected to enough force. So rock is a fluid right?--Light current 15:13, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually no; all materials exhibit deformation, elastic (reversible) or plastic (nonreversible), when subjected to loads; compressive stress ,tensile stress, shear stress, torsion (twisting), and bending (though bending is nothing more than a combination of compressive and tensile on either side of a neutral axis or plane). If you use that as the definition of a solid then there would be no such thing as a solid. But solids have a limit to the deformation they take before breaking (failure). Liquids do not but continue to deform. Viscosity is a measure of the deformation of a liquid under shear. --Justanother 23:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How are mountains formed? When the rock is molten or when the rock is solid?--Light current 00:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is if it's molten XD --WikiSlasher 15:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You must have changed your comment after I'd responded to it LC. Disregard what i said above everyone the continuity has been broken --WikiSlasher 10:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And when its 'solid'. Think of mountain production.--Light current 17:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think mountain ranges form when tectonic plates come into contact as they drift so it would be solid, I imagine. --Justanother 01:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly! And the mountains are pushed up from solid rock. So solid rock flows! (slowly)--Light current 12:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps just "high viscosity fluid?"? --Proficient 23:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 26

I've been looking for the article on the Remington Titanium Microflex 400, because I wanted to see if it's worth buying. However, no matter what search terms I use (I've tried and least ten different variants), I can never find an article on it. Can you help me find it, or give me your own thoughts on it? --RockMaster 01:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Try Microflex 400, although it appears to be replaced by the 800. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 01:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's nice, but it's just stuff from the company, with no comparison to other brands, or any critisism. Are there any objective ways to check? Personal experience from anyone? --RockMaster 01:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If WP had an article on this particular product (which seems unlikely, as it would fail the test for notability, it may not contain an evaluation of the product against others, as this would be POV, original research or both. If there were a published article that made the comparison, it might link to it.

In the UK, http://www.which.com/ is a subscription service that publishes comparisons and evaluations of products: I don't know whether there are equivalent services elsewhere. --ColinFine 13:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know that Wikipedia does have articles on consumer products, and will frequently place a Critism section, as well as Reception, or other similarly titled article to deal with positive critism.--RockMaster 23:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any website where we can view that were worn in from 1970s to 2006 and I mean the Major League Baseball teams, both American and National League? Is there any website where we can view the Canadian Football League Jerseys that were worn in from 1970s to 2006?

Can anyone tell me when outsourcing began and which country was the first to receive this benefit?

Sure, it was when the 10th caveman had the neighbor's kid instead of his own skin his kill. --Justanother 03:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which of the two countries do you consider to be the one that recieves the benefit? Aren't they both considered to benefit? Anyway, it's between businesses, not countries. DirkvdM 09:36, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On a serious note, he would probably like to know what was the first instance, on a large scale, of a firm or industry moving something that they did in-country, to sub-contractors in another country that could do it cheaper. I think he might want to distinquish that from simply buying cheaper foreign raw materials at the expense of domestic firms, like what happened to the US steel industry over the last 30-40 years. I think that outsourcing service activities like call centers is very new as they rely on our modern global communication network but I imagine that in manufacuturing it could go way back. Maybe to the 11th caveman. --Justanother 15:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the concept of outsourcing predates the concept of "off-shoring," where the work is performed in another country. The Electronic Data Systems article (although not an example of Wikipedia's finest work) claims that the company (led by Ross Perot) invented the idea in 1962. --LarryMac 15:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

United Auto Workers President Douglas Fraser was quoted as having said in June, 1981 at a labor conference, "They've got to think seriously about preventing companies from outsourcing our work." This was in an article discussing Ford and General Motors consideration of turning to lower paid foreign workers if concessions were not made by U.S. auto workers. This is the first instance in a search of the NY Times computerized index back to the 1850's. The term might have been common in labor-management negotiations before that. "Detroit Still Seeks U.A.W. Concession; Maneuvering in Detroit 'Some Job Protection'"Author(s): By JOHN HOLUSHA Special to The New York Times. Dateline: DETROIT, July 17.Section: Business & Finance Publication title: New York Times (1857-Current file). New York, N.Y.: Jul 20, 1981. pg. D1, 2 pgs.Source type: Historical Newspaper.ISSN: 03624331.ProQuest document ID: 112068627.Text Word Count 814 Edison 15:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right LarryMac, though from the way he phrased it I think he means Offshoring. That article put US start in the 1970's. I just wonder if there is some much earlier instance of, say Britain in her Colonial Era, what with all those "wogs" they had under their thumb (that is a joke please). --Justanother 18:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Offshoring, as defined by our article, depends on quick and seamless international telecommunication links (in the case of services) and cheap transportation links (in the case of product assembly). The article explains that the offshoring of services was virtually unknown before the development of hte internet in the 1990s. However, the offshoring of product assembly has a somewhat longer history. The article looks for the beginnings of this kind of offshoring with the enaction of NAFTA in 1994, but it certainly predates this. In North America, the Canada-United States Automotive Agreement of 1965 led to widespread offshoring of auto manufacture between the United States and Canada. I suspect, but don't know, that similar arrangements existed, perhaps in other industries, even earlier than this, in the European Community, which dates back to 1957. It seems unlikely to me that offshoring, as we define it, existed in the colonial era because of the much poorer communications and relatively slow and expensive transportation systems of that era. Marco polo 19:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If it's about companies that exploit people abroad, the first one might be the VOC (Dutch East India Company). Other European countries colonised as a country, but with the Netherlands it started with a company, around 1600. Only 200 years later would the Dutch government take over. DirkvdM 07:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't the 49-ers' laundry all outsourced to China? --ColinFine 13:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any website where we can view the hockey jerseys that were worn in from 1970s to 2006 and I mean the National Hockey League teams?

     Yes. Here it is: http://statshockey.homestead.com/historyofhockey.html

Questioner - please sign your query with four tildes ~~~~. responder, please sign your contribution with four tildes, and if you want to indent use a colon ':' rather than spaces. --ColinFine 13:22, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any website where can view the NFL jerseys that were worn in from 1970s to 2006?

Is there any website where we can view the Canadian Football League Jerseys that were worn in from 1970s to 2006?

You really could have put all those under one heading, dontcha know. =P--The Corsair 02:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. People might find it annoying that you posted several of these related questions. --Proficient 03:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In other words, click here and edit them into one question about jerseys. --Justanother 04:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Wikipedia article on Indonesian names, Indonesians only have a single name (the rest beign their mother's or fathers names). But all the Indonesians invovled in the 2002 Bali bombings have extensively long and complicated names (such as "Ali Amrozi bin Haji Nurhasyim"). How does that work? Battle Ape 03:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the "Haji" might be an honorific if Amrozi completed the Hajj (pilgrimage to Mecca), see Hajji. --Canley 06:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'bin' is arabic for "son of" ( see arabic name). I wasn't aware they spoke arabic in Indonesia, but if he's an islamic extremist I guess it's not impossible that he took an arabic name. Ironfrost 10:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think extremism factors in; from the article, "Islam is the largest religion in Indonesia, it is quite common to find Arabic first names or words (e.g. Amir, Rashid, Saiful, Bahar) being used by Indonesians, both as first names and surnames." --Justanother 13:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've recently moved to a city with two rival football (soccer) teams. How should I decide which one of them to support? Because I'm new here, I don't have any loyalty to one or the other based on family history, location or any of the other things that might normally lead a person to favour one team over another. Their stadiums are pretty much equidistant from me. I don't want to just support the more successful of the two, because then it looks like I'd be glory-hunting. I guess I should maybe go to one or two of each team's home games and think about which I enjoyed most. Any other suggestions? --Richardrj ^{talk email} 06:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That seems like a good idea. Just choose whichever's style of play you like the most. Since you can't immediately decide on loyalty, perhaps visit a couple games of each before deciding. It's up to you. --Proficient 06:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Find out which one most of your new friends and coworkers support, and go with that one. StuRat 07:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I had a similar problem when I moved to Melbourne in 2002. I wasn't a follower of Australian Rules football, but the locals here think you're from outer space if you don't have a preference for some team or other. Indifference is not permitted. There are 16 national teams to choose from, about half of them based in Melbourne, where the game originated. So, because I was living near Collingwood at the time, I thought it would be a good idea to support Collingwood. I sometimes got some funny looks from people when I mentioned this, but I didn't know why. Then I discovered Collingwood occupies a unique place in the footy world - those who support it (about 5%) do so with a passion, but the other 95% despise and detest the club and its players with just as much passion. They really do rub their hands with glee when Collingwood loses, or a Collingwood player is injured, even when their own team isn't even involved in the match. If indifference to football generally is unacceptable, indifference to Collingwood in particular is punishable by death. That's sport for you. And they say we're laid back, laconic people down here. Hah! I realise this doesn't help you with your question, but I think you're doing the right thing by doing your research before making your decision. JackofOz 10:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, so is that why you decided to "switch to the other team" ? :-) StuRat 14:01, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice try, but in fact I still support Collingwood. They have the cutest players (or did, till Chris Tarrant went to Fremantle). JackofOz 20:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be confused with the not-so-cute Chris Tarrant :) Lemon martini 12:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Look up the histories of the two teams involved and something may stand out which appeals to you.(hotclaws**== 14:54, 27 October 2006 (UTC))[reply]

I assume (from your userpage) that it's Vienna we're talking about. To me the choice would be obvious after a memorable meeting between my boyz and one of Vienna's clubs in my formative years. I would have to say serendipity is the key factor in the "choice" - after all, clubs choose their fans, people don't choose their club.  sʟυмɢυм • т • c  00:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I can't seem to find the answer to this question by searching, so does anybody have any idea of roughly how many active Wikipedians (in this case, with user accounts) are there? Just wondering, and thanks! --Kyoko 06:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Special:Statistics page shows the number of registered users, but that's not necessarily reflective of the number of active users. --Canley 08:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some users may not be active,but may be asleep or at rest.Others may be indulging in exercise.I at present am contorting myself into various physical shapes so I am an extremely active Wikipedian :) Lemon martini 09:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am very active, trying to become inactive: retired, fishing, bugging the wife, etc. --Zeizmic 11:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If I was active, I wouldn't be on wikipedia. I gotta get more active! --Justanother 13:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is probably the sort of stuff you seek but it is two years old. "There are hundreds of thousands of "Wikipedians" who have contributed or edited articles. But the core community, according to Wales, is about 200 people who, by now, know each other quite well. Outside this inner-inner circle is a core of about 2,000 people who make more than 100 edits each in the last month. Beyond this, you have around 10,000 people who will have made more than five edits. There are administrators, bureaucrats, stewards and developers all with different levels of technical and administrative authority." The above is from here. Here is another but I don't see a date "Wales decided to run a simple study to find out: he counted who made the most edits to the site. "I expected to find something like an 80-20 rule: 80% of the work being done by 20% of the users, just because that seems to come up a lot. But it's actually much, much tighter than that: it turns out over 50% of all the edits are done by just .7% of the users ... 524 people. ... And in fact the most active 2%, which is 1400 people, have done 73.4% of all the edits." The remaining 25% of edits, he said, were from "people who [are] contributing ... a minor change of a fact or a minor spelling fix ... or something like that."" --Justanother 13:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Those are very interesting statistics. --Proficient 23:31, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain the origin of NHL Hall of Famer Reginald Smith's nickname "Hooley". Is it from "hooligan"? He played for the Senators and Maroons.

Thanx in anticipation.

81.89.88.106 06:52, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Respected Sir/Mam

This is Sony here,from INDIA,i did my BA in JOURNALISM HERE,and am planing to apply for post graduation in NEW ZEALAND. I have a deep passion for animals and i wish to chose a career in this field.Howeve,since i am not from any science background i cant go for vetanary nor animal science.But as i was surfing thru "WIKIPEDIA" i came across a course called animal communication.How can i get into this field and thru which course,will MA IN MASS COMMUNICATION will be right choice?? if not then how can i get into animal communication or any animals realated field,though am not a science student???

Plz reply,i would be really greatful for your precious advice which will make my future. Thanking you, sony

Is it that type of work where you ask animals if they're sick, etc? I don't think there's any university classes required... 惑乱 分からん 11:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Try reading the article. "Animal communication" is not a degree course or job category like journalism. The academic study of animal communication is an aspect of ethology, which is itself a subdiscipline of biology, which of course is science. I have to say I am enjoying the novel concept of pioneering mass communication from humans to animals. Since most human-to-human mass communication is for purposes of getting us to buy something, vote for someone, or change our behavior in socially beneficial ways, I am having a little trouble imagining the message to be communicated to masses of animals. Maybe "don't bite humans" to the mosquitoes? "Pull harder" to the mules? "Don't poop over the sidewalk" to the pigeons? "Hang in there and don't go extinct on us" to the whales? Good luck. alteripse 11:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note that this is a rather esoteric research field. As such, it's not going to be profitable and needs to be funded by some government or private organization that isn't concerned about profit. I doubt that India can afford this type of thing, so you would likely need to move to Europe, North America, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, etc. I just want to make sure this is your plan. I don't think an MA in Mass Communication will help, as that's for human communication only. You would want classes in zoology and animal behavior, instead. Human and animal communication are fundamentally different, as humans use symbolic logic, and animals don't (although there is some overlap in nonverbal communication, etc.). StuRat 14:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like you would like a job in journalism working for something like Animal Planet. How about being Director of Communications for a large zoo or some sort. Point being, that you studied journalism and communication so you may want to stay in that field, no? Start by getting an internship. Also, if you really want to be a vet, then chuck the jounalism and become a vet. You can change your mind, you know. --Justanother 15:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you could get a job as an animal trainer ? StuRat 17:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, stick with the journalism and become an editor. (Hey, you try training a green reporter and tell me it's easier than keeping a lion from eating you!) Tony Fox (arf!) 17:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

what is there known about him

You're going to have to be more specific, like where he live or what he does. Try Google. —Mitaphane _talk 17:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

my begining is my end..what am i?

A poem by T.S. Eliot? ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 09:28, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Any palindrome? Clarityfiend 10:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You answered your own question. Anchoress 10:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

<am looking for really cool jokes dissing manchester united or liverpool or chelsea.any ideas or a really short but funny general jokes.alsso political jokes like bush and osama jokes.if u have any short jokes plse share them.am collecting short jokes.google av searched but theres nuthing extremely good.

Manchester, and Arsnal are having a kick about and a chicken runs onto the pitch, being footballers they kick it to death. one of the managers comes out and shouts at them saying if you are gonna kill something you have to eat it, so they devide up whats left of the chicken...manchester take the chest as the are man CHESTER, and arsnal say, no thanks you can have it all.193.115.175.247 14:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)hahaha[reply]

go to http://www.humorsphere.com/football/ or just Google <jokes> --- petitmichel

i posted this before, but apparently to the archive page. my fault.

Where is the Y in citibank? they themselves say the following about the name change:

"1976 - The First National City Corporation holding company changes its name to Citicorp to better suit its global businesses."

Source: Citigroup Website

I suppose they refer to the shortening of the name and dropping of "national" as better suiting, as i can not conceive how the y>i-change should make any change in citicorps global businesses.

nothing about the Y ? Where is it, and why was it dropped ?Thanks very much-- ExpImp^talkcon 11:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In other words, why isn't it "Citybank"? I think it is because to an American (or any native English-speaker?) that looks like a Compound (linguistics) (two words crammed together) because you usually only see a "y" in the middle of a word when it follows as "s" or "ps" and they wanted it to look like one word. Otherwise, people would likely just keep saying "City Bank" and probably spelling it that way too. Just a guess. --Justanother 13:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deliberate misspellings used to be a common branding technique in marketing. Durova 14:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

True. I was also thinking that, since they mention "better suit its global businesses", it is because Romance languages like Spanish would not use the "y" like that. And maybe the one-word name is "more international". --Justanother 14:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't it stand for Citizen's Bank? Thus Citibank? Maybe not, but where have I heard Citizen's Bank? --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 16:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"In 1828, Citizens Financial Group got its start as a small community bank called the High Street Bank in Providence, Rhode Island" --Justanother 16:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Under the Glass-Steagall Act, banks couldn't do stuff like sell mutual funds. If they wanted to get into other lines of business besides simple banking, they had to establish a separate corporate entity with a different name. That's why you'll sometimes see "Bank" spelled "Banc," and presumably why City Corp. became Citicorp. -- Mwalcoff 00:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So why does the Bank of America/Banakamerica Corporation call its financial services Bancamerica? User:Zoe|(talk) 01:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, but remember that Glass-Steagall was repealed several years back. Or maybe Bank of America decided to use its old name for the holding company and change the name of the actual bank, instead of the other way around. -- Mwalcoff 02:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The houseplant has many long skinny leafed shoots growing from the pot. The leaves are dark green with small clusters of tiny white star shaped flowers. The flowers have tiny yellow spec in the middle. The flowers are thick and almost look like candy or wax. I saw this plant in a home in Canada and was told it was a star of david. I have found nothing with this search that comares to it. The plant is indoore, potted and has a hanging plant quality to it. I would be grateful for any info or suggestions on how to find this plant as I would love to have one. Thank you

(~~Tammy~~)

Is it Star of Bethlehem? --Shantavira 12:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

no it looks nothing like it. thhe leaves are as tiny as a fingernail,the shoot comes out and there are leaves all the way down on either side so it is kinda flat and it hangs from a pot planter.

U have a pix of this plant that U can E-mail ? Martial Law 03:57, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My friends bough some dwarf hamsters a few weeks ago, i laughed at them. But they bought 2 and now have 14, what can they do with them or how do they stop them from breeding?

I believe they are very nice after being roasted on a spit. I believe they are a delicacy in some parts of the world (or is that guinea pigs -- same thing really). MMMMMMMMM Dwarf hamster for dinner 8-))--Light current 15:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

See [21] on the yummi ness of guinea pigs.--Light current 15:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Micro-livestock". Great term!! Guess that makes dwarf hamsters "mini micro-livestock". How small do we have to be to get "nano-livestock"? Protozoa? --Justanother 15:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See Tribble. On the other hand, dwarf hamsters make fine pets for the couple of years they live. Give them away free or sell them to friends, who will buy $50 worth of cages, toys, and food and spend perhaps $100 on vet bills over the animals lifetime. Edison 15:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To stop them breading either seperate them or have them neutered. Remember that they will not worry about in-breeding so keep all males and females seperate, also males may fight if they are kept too close for too long so you may want to make selling them your priority. --AMX 18:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)AMX[reply]

How can you tell the diff? Serious question 8-|--Light current 22:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A vet can tell you when she does the first wellness check, for about $25 U.S.Edison 00:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So with 12 offspring, thats quite a bill just to get rid of em! Better to roast em! MMMM--Light current 00:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A book on hamsters will usually come with pictures of male and female genitalia. Alternatively, since you know one of the grown-ups is male and the other female, just seperate them into the-group-that-look-like-one-adult and the-group-that-look-like-the-other. I believe it's to do with how far apart two tiny holes are. This is assuming they're tame enough to pick up and turn upside down in your hand. And Dirk: neutering Skittle 14:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Have them neutered", is that a euphemism for cutting the guy's balls off? DirkvdM 08:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not an euphemism, as much as a fancier word... =S Perhaps you could give them neuticles to cheer them up, afterwards... 惑乱 分からん 15:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I keep sitting on my testicles, is this normal, and how can it be avioded without cupping myself in public?

Cut holes in all your chairs. --Justanother 15:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have the operation --- petitmichel

Put on some pants. --Justanother 16:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heaven help me, I thought of an answer. --Justanother 16:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ROFL, you can't serriously be telling the world that you have deformed genitailier? Try sitting down slower. Hit the edge of the seat 1st and then slid back. Good luck --AMX 18:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)AMX[reply]

But you have to admit, it takes balls to ask this kind of question. :-) StuRat 22:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wear briefs? - Rainwarrior 20:13, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Castration? Lemon martini 12:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

spread your legs farther.Lrpelkey 11:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fortunately, eunuch programmers don't have this problem. :-) 01:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

If this was titled "mmm" I don't think this is a serious question. --Proficient 23:32, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe not, but every cloud has a silver lining. We now have the fabulous new word "genitailier". I love it. JackofOz 07:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does the United States really know if Osama bin Laden ran planes into the World Trade Center?216.253.128.29 16:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)nicholassayhsi[reply]

Yes, there is lots of evidence including several confessions by bin Laden and other al-Qaeda operatives. See September 11, 2001 attacks. As with pretty much any major event (such as moon landings, Elvis' death, the Earth purpotedly being spherical) there are inevitably "alternative theories"; see 9/11 conspiracy theories. Weregerbil 16:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let's just say that, for me, Controlled demolition hypothesis for the collapse of the World Trade Center is VERY plausible and the criticisms of the argument are weak. There was some suspicious funny business with the buildings' insurance and some other issues like all the put options on the airline stock right before the event too that indicates perhaps somebody knew what was coming, not to mention all the missing gold bullion. Check here --Justanother 17:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bin Laden didn't actually fly the planes, of course, but he went on television and took responsibility for it. 72.199.30.31 20:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, at first I think he denied it which he would have no reason to do had he been responsible. I think some tape later showed up with a guy that, to me, looks nothing like Bin Laden saying "Yep, I did it". --Justanother 02:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh. The OVERWHELMING majority of evidence confirms the official report. Yes, there are (ridiculous and wrong) "alternative theories," but all they ever focus on is finding "holes" in the official story, never explaining away the 99% of it which lines up completely with the evidence available... -Elmer Clark 03:01, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't find all of them "ridiculous and wrong", especially when it comes to the structural design of the buildings, how improbable the buildings failing as they did is given their design, and how even the committee "investigating" was not given the full building plans so they could properly evaluate structural issues. There is lots more on that but this is not the place to go into it. And they line up just fine. --Justanother 05:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another one is that the planes went off course for hours and were not followed by fighters, as they should have been according to protocol. You don't 'lose' four big airplanes and not notice. The things are constantly followed by air control.

Anyway, there has been no decent independent research and the site was cleared very quickly, also against protocol because that could eliminate evidence. If the US government was somehow involved, then the official reports are worthless. If you want to investigate human rights in China, you don't let the Chinese government do it for you, do you? :) DirkvdM 08:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think we know. Edison 12:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ehm, know what? DirkvdM 18:57, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That everything you read on the internet is true!. 192.168.1.1 9:33, 27 Rocktober 2006 (PST)

Oh, I thought that everything your government tells you is true. :) Anyways, I based this on a documentary by good Dutch documentarymakers who looked at all those allegations with a critical eye (sort of a serious version of 'myth buster', with the help of experts) and found that they couldn't explain certain things away. DirkvdM 06:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=-&ie=UTF8&z=11&ll=-2.740044,-67.138138&spn=0.204386,0.367355&t=h&om=1

Anyone know what this is?68.228.111.2 17:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is probably some sort of artifact of the satellite's imaging hardware or software. I see odd colors on Google Earth all the time. —Mitaphane _talk 17:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a candyfloss farm. Vitriol 18:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just clouds ? compare with Wikimapia's image where the rivers are thinner and the land is quite clear. -- DLL ^{.. T} 21:13, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of Google Maps satellite imagery isn't true color, it's false color imagery reprocessed to simulate true color. The pink area was probably bright in some infrared band which happened to map to pink. See NASA's description of Landsat 7's frequency bands. —Keenan Pepper 05:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, so what's all the infrared doing there. :) DirkvdM 08:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering if anyone knows how to get rid or recind your social insurance number. I no longer wish to pay down Canadas debt and receive CPP payments. Perhaps you can assist with a person or a file that can help me. Thanks.--Prong1 19:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to work in Canada legally you need to have an SIN. I don't think you have to get rid of it, just stop using it, and convince your employer to pay you illegally "under the table". Or quit your job and stop working. - Rainwarrior 20:13, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In Canada, there are 2 sure things: death and taxes. You can ditch your SIN number (which controls taxes) by death... --Zeizmic 22:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can also leave the country and become a tax exile. -- Mwalcoff 00:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh can it be any SIN you like? In that case I will move to Canada and take Gluttony,Lust and Sloth :) Lemon martini 12:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My grandfather passed away recently, and I inhereted a handgun he used in WW2. I am located in California, and not a minor, felon or any class of persons I know can't own firearms. According to http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/state/viewstate.php?st=ca ..it does not need to be registered since it is not an assault weapon. However, is there anything else I need to do? There are state safety class requirements for purchasing a gun, but I don't know if this applies to this instance (inheritance). For that matter, I don't even know if he was supposed to keep it, or return it to the army - is there any way to check? I don't want to be in illegal possesion of the gun, in any way, shape, or form. 64.164.147.81 20:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't really the right place if you're looking for legal advice. However, I would say you're probably in the clear, especially if your only intent is to keep the gun as heirloom. I'd suggest contacting local legal authorities to see if there is anything else you should know. Otherwise, keep the gun in a safe place and make sure it's not loaded. —Mitaphane _talk 21:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a good reason why car headlights stay on when the vehicle is off and parked? Leaving the headlights on while the car is off seems like very poor user interface, and led to the draining of my battery. It seems like allowing the battery to drain when the headlights were clearly not intended to be on is a safety problem -- is there a compelling reason to leave them on, or would it be an appropriate safety complaint to make to the car manufacturer? -- Creidieki 20:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

There will be circumstances in which people wish to use their headlights when their car engine is off. More modern cars do things like dip the headlights, go to side-lights, beep at you if you open the door with engine off and lights on ... meanwhile batteries have been flattened since the start of battry-lit cars: you'd have precisely no grounds for complaint, in my view. --Tagishsimon (talk)

What circumstances are those? That was basically my question; in what situations would "headlight switch on, engine off" reflect a user's desire to leave the headlights active? As an end-user, I found this behavior very unintuitive, because I thought that I had turned the car "off". I also don't understand what you mean by "flattened". -- Creidieki 21:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I break down whilst driving along. My engine stops. It's night. It's dark. I'd like to be able to steer to the curb, please: for which headlights are a boon. I'd like to leave my lights on whilst I'm parked for five minutes on a dark country road, to alert other cars to mine. That sort of thing. Flattened = all current discharged from the battery. BTW, you can sign your posts using ~~~ or ~~~~. --Tagishsimon (talk)

"Flat" = "dead" in US English. I think headlights should go off after 30 secs unless you turn the key to the accessory position. I agree that car designs which allow the headlights to stay on indefinitely when the keys are removed from the ignition are really stupid. I would imagine, if someone was injured as a result of the resulting dead battery (perhaps you couldn't get a wounded child to a hospital), then you would have a basis to sue. StuRat 22:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not looking for legal action, it simply struck me as an odd default behavior, and I was wondering whether there was a legitimate reason. I'm a novice driver and I hadn't been thinking about the car breaking down; I can understand that. I'll probably still try to register a complaint with the manufacturer and/or some government agency, since it seems like the user should have to specifically request "keep the lights on while the battery is off". (Aren't the flashers more appropriate for most of those situations?) Also, is my signature not showing up? I thought I included it. -- Creidieki 23:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks like you're typing your user name. You don't need to do that. Your signature and the date of your post will appear when you type 4 tildes (~~~~). JackofOz 03:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The reason is just cost. Any device to prevent the battery from being drained when not in use would add to the vehicle cost. However, if they could add such a feature for $100, that certainly would seem like a selling point they could advertise, to me. They add so many thoroughly frivolous features, like the "power glove box" I saw in one car, that you would think they would do some important things like this first. High-end cars do tend to have automatic headlights that turn on when it gets dark, off when it becomes light out, and turn off shortly after the engine is turned off, but this feature isn't available on many economy cars. StuRat 02:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I for one would not buy a car in which it was necessary to leave the keys in the ignition to keep the headlights on. That would apply doubly if it turned off the taillights and the smaller front lights. The small benefit of not having a dead battery is more than outweighed by the big benefit of being able to be seen under al circumstances. My car beeps at me if I open the door with the lights on, and I've never left them on accidentally yet. DJ Clayworth 20:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get it, under what circumstances would you like to leave your headlights on and yet can't leave the keys in the ignition ? Would a timer that shut the headlights off after a few minutes work ? StuRat 00:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My car, a 2003 Pontiac Vibe, has a light sensor which turns the headlights on automatically when it gets dark. They turn off automatically when I shut the engine off. You can also turn them on manually, but I never do, because then I have to turn them off manually. However, if I wanted to have them on when the engine is stopped, I have that option. The only downside to the setup is that I cannot turn my headlights off while driving. --Shuttlebug 00:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The object in question is like a small screw or nut with a hemispherical cap on it. I don't know what it is called. 152.3.245.221 21:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC) It's a bolt by the way not a screw.[reply]

It sounds like some form of hemispherical headed bolt. You confuse me slightly by suggesting it is either a screw or a nut. They're somewhat the yin & yang of the cylindrical fixing world. Ah. Screw#Shapes_of_screw_head is probably your friend: round head: dome-shaped, commonly used for machine screws. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Sounds like a coach bolt--Light current 22:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Light current is correct but I know it as a carriage bolt. --Justanother 23:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah thats it!--Light current 23:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean a nut with a hemispherical cap on one side, then you are thinking of an Acorn nut. Like the ones these folks sell. 192.168.1.1 4:52, 26 Rocktober 2006 (PST)

THats a trade name only. Not a proper generic name 8-)--Light current 00:01, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The name is "cap nut", and "acorn nut" is also a generic name for a similar nut with a more acorn-shaped dome. This page shows both.  --Lambiam^Talk 12:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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a "male" thread with a blunt leading edge is either a bolt or a machine screw by definition- the distinction is usually one of size, with bolts having relatively large diameters and larger thread bores (denoted by smaller number of threads per inch). if the head of the bolt is basically hemispherical, and smooth, lacking any depressions or cavities for driving it (such as the slot of a flat-head screw or the X of a Philip's head) it is called a "carriage bolt"- which Light Current probably refers to as a coach bolt. Carriage bolts may or may not have a square section between the head and the threaded shaft, smaller than the former and larger than the latter, which contributes to the bolt's stability by becoming wedged in the substrate surrounding the shaft as the nut pulls the bolt tight.

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Danke.100110100 21:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

google seems to think there are. All over the place. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Thanks, I'm looking for univeristy courses transferable as a 100 University of Alberta course. Thanks.100110100 10:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I saw from your user page that you are Canadian. This Google search might be helpful. Marco polo 01:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'm looking for univeristy courses transferable as a 100 University of Alberta course. Thanks.100110100 10:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can women apply to become a United States Marine Corps sniper? Jamesino 21:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you're female and interested in becoming a sniper, I'm afraid that's against US Military policy. According to our recources, "women are not permitted to serve on submarines or to participate in special forces programs such as Navy Seals. Women are barred from serving in Infantry, Special Operations, Artillery, Armour, and Forward Air Defence." Unfortunately, I beleive Marine Sniping would fall into the category of barred services for women. But hey, I'm not an expert. (see: Women in the United States Military)--Porsche997SBS 23:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Women aren't allowed to serve in the infantry? Does that mean women aren't allowed to hold a M4 rifle and shoot at enemies as their primary job? What are some of the jobs that they can do? Jamesino 00:28, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They can fly jets and helicopters into combat and serve on combat ships (and give birth on them!): [22] Rmhermen 03:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Woman serve in pretty much any secondary support role: technical specialists, medical staff, transportation, logistics, 'etc. They are barred from direct combat roles (read: firing weapons), but when faced with an insurgency, that distinction becomes trivial. Raul654 05:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How bout females in Canada?100110100 10:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about special ops positions, but we recently had our first female combat death since WWII [23] in a firefight in Afghanistan. Far as I know, women can serve in front-line positions up here. Tony Fox (arf!) 16:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See history of women in the military for a good discussion of historical points, and worldwide rules. As to whether women could make effective snipers, the historical record suggests they almost certainly could. See Lyudmila Pavilchenko and Nina Alexeyevna Lobkovskaya, who reputedly managed to kill hundreds of Germans in the Soviet Army during WWII. --Robert Merkel 05:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Until the 1990s, women couldn't serve in the Finnish Defence Forces at all. The best they could hope for would be a normal desk job in some military executive office. So it appears that there are some areas where the USA is ahead of us. JIP | Talk 16:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another note, the Marines are the most male of all military branches (94% male), while the Air Force is the least (80.4% male)--Porsche997SBS 04:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the past 3 - 4 months was an article regarding the dada movement. Anyone know what periodical and issue this may have been. Thank you.

I believe you would get a lot more help if you were a bit more specific.-- ExpImp^talkcon 23:01, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not exactly an art journal, but this was published a few days ago. Ziggurat 23:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The DaDa movement was present after World War I, in Germany. The disfigured human shapes were caricatures of what the artists were thinking of man, with all value and menaing removed from life. I hope that helps you. --RockMaster 01:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know what Dada is. I just wanted more specifics about the art journal (country of origin, language it is written in, where have you read it, etc.) the article (you know of a title, prevalent theme, keywords beside Dada) and timeframe (3-4 months really isn't that specific). Unless i get these even starting to search is futile. You know how many journals/periodicals there are, talking about (at least partially) Art ?-- ExpImp^talkcon 11:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Several of the items on this list are art periodicals. Anchoress 11:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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What is the difference between the US Army and the US Marine Corps? The US Marine Corps are the soldiers over in Iraq fighting the land war, what is the Army doing to contribute? Why isn't the Army the main force over in Iraq, the USMC and the US Army seems to greatly overlap. Could someone clear this up for me please? Thanks alot. --Jamesino 00:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The main difference is the US Marine Corps is part of the US Navy. Where did you get the impression that it was only (or mostly) Marines fighting the land war? This site shows the deployment of troops in Iraq: Donald Rumsfeld testified recently that there were 133,000 US personnel in Iraq, of which about 27,000 are Marines, so the US Army and Army Reserve are pretty overwhemingly the major force in Iraq. --Canley 00:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Marines are not part of the Navy, they are a different armed force. The original concept of marines (which, I believe, started with the Brits), was that they would be ground troops which are launched from ships (as in the WW2 Normandy beach landing). This contrasts with the Army, which may be delivered near the combat area by ship, but are not expected to make combat landings. Thus, Marines might be used to establish a beach-head, then regular Army troops would be brought in once the beach-head was secured. In the US, the Marines have also become a somewhat more "elite" force, and are also sent first into combat in areas that don't involve combat beach landings. The Navy, of course, is only expected to fight on the sea. There does tend to be quite a bit of overlap between the Army and Marines, however, especially when troops are in short supply, as is the case now in Iraq. StuRat 02:48, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is not so simple. The U.S. Marines are still part of the Navy (that is why they are the Marine Corps). Both the Navy and Marine are part of the Department of the Navy and they share resources such as legal and educational departments (JAG and U.S. Naval Academy) as well as Marines deploying from Navy ships. Branch distinctions are less important under the modern integrated strucutres. Rmhermen 03:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I got the impression from the news broadcasts. They are saying that "Us Marines launch an offensive at.......", "more US Marines die from suicide bombing at .....". But still both the USMC and the US Army seem like ground troops to me, what is the distinguishing difference between a marine infantryman and a army infantryman? Jamesino 01:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I beleive this may answer atleast some of your questions.--Porsche997SBS 04:15, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

British marines did indeed originate as sea borne soldiers. Every Royal Navy warship of any size had a marine contingent. Today the Corps (within the navy) has developed a unique role. The British marines are now Commandos. Trained for independent action, and specialists in artic warfare amonst their range of skills.-----petirmichel

I just saw the horrible Plan 9 from Outer Space, and I found something quite strange in it. When the "aliens" "salute" each other, they quickly cross their arms over their chest and put them down again. This is the same thing that the X-Nauts from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door do. Is this just a coinidence, or some sort of tribute to the movie? --The Great Llama^{(now on editor review!)} 00:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plan 9 (Ed Wood), is quite famous so I would suppose that the you are right about it being a tribute. You can search google and see if the creators ever said anything about that. --Justanother 01:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure this helps...but I've seen that in other movies too...the Oompa Loompas in the new Charlie and the Chocolate Factory do that. My theory: Oompa Loompas are actually aliens that are distant cousins of the Plan 9 aliens. Paragon12321 21:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We just rented that (again), I'll check it out. But since Johnny Depp stars in Ed Wood (film) AND Charlie, I totally can see that. --Justanother 04:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.dry-flowers.net/products/exotics2.html

I am trying to find information about a plant grown in India called natraj. It is used by florists in exotic arrangements and to support orchid stems. The above URL shows a picture of the product, I couldn't figure out how to import the actual image to this spot.

I don't know if the product is a root, limb, or bark. The product is sold dried, so I can't imagine what the original looks like. It is quite a sturdy stem and is generally sold in lengths of between 24" and 36". It is an inexpensive product $8.00 per stem in Canada.

It may be a shrub or a tree or a vine. I have spent a good deal of time searching the web with no success, other than the wholesale site linked above.

Could you give me some information about the plant or point me in the right direction to continue my search?

Thanks for your help.

--216.221.81.99 01:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC) Sandi Remedios[reply]

Bit of a guess here but I think natraj isn't a plant but any dried material with that sinuous smoke-like shape, named after Nataraja. There is probably some plant that is commonly used but I think natraj is simply a name used to describe the shape. MeltBanana 02:31, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help... Sandi

Is it PC to make jokes about stupid people in general and in particular? (i dont mean mentally deficient/brain damaged/mentally disabled etc)--Light current 01:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly that depends on the stupidity, and the reasons behind it. I think that it should be, though (although it might be argued that it mainly is an arrogant way of improving one's own feelings of superiority..)... 惑乱 分からん 01:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hard to say, it would depend on the situation and the joke. But if the joke can in any way reflect on a particular race, nationality, etc. then it is definitely not PC. --Justanother 02:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you also exclude the slow-witted, or the not particularly brainy? Where do you draw the line? Very few people are truly "stupid", and it's not their fault so they should not be made the butt of jokes. Almost everybody does stupid things from time to time, but that doesn't make them stupid people. I don’t usually have a problem with jokes about behaviour, but jokes about genetically inherited characteristics, the effects of brain injuries, and many other things that people can do nothing about can be extremely offensive. JackofOz 02:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about those ubiquitous dumb blonde jokes ? StuRat 02:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in mind that political correctness is very much in the eye of the beholder. People vary greatly in what will or will not offend them. I really can't imagine how a joke about "stupid people in general" would go ("Stupid people are so stupid, they...?). About people in particular, that person himself would quite likely take offense, as would his family, and his friends might too. If you're just making fun of a mutual acquaintance with someone, some people might not appreciate your making fun of people behind their backs, but realistically I don't think most people would find it inappropriate. -Elmer Clark 03:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"You know, stupid people are so stupid, that their general lack in intelligence makes them really dumb!" Haahaahaahh!!! @_@ 惑乱 分からん 03:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I think the problem is that they're mostly so cliched and unfunny... I don't mind jokes about stupid people in general, but they'd somehow need something more, or otherwise being too stupid in themselves... 惑乱 分からん 03:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems the world's funniest joke is about stupidity. So is the second funniest.--Shantavira 07:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's only PC if the people you tell it to get the joke. Otherwise, it's personal. --Tbeatty 09:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But then if they're stupid enough not to get the joke ,then they won't complain because they won't know why it's funny :) Lemon martini 12:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Judging by the responses, I realise the question should have been phrased:

Is it PC to make jokes about peoples'(stupid) behaviour or other characteristics as long as youre not referring to their:

• religion,
• race,
• sex,
• sexuality,
• appearance,
• age,
• disability
• (anything else?)

I think maybe there should be a page on what is, and is not, acceptable these days, if there isnt already. I wouldnt know how to start looking. Political correctness perhaps? Any help appreciated. Maybe its easier to say what sort of jokes can be made about people. 8-(--Light current 16:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Put in another way, if you tell a joke about a stupid person to a stupid person, they will laugh. No stupid person thinks they are stupid. If you tell them directly they are stupid, then they will punch you in the nose, since they've been hearing this all their lives.... --Zeizmic 16:48, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah but many people laugh at jokes they dont understand, because thats what they think they should do. Not many people have the guts to say 'I dont get it'. 8-)--Light current 16:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you are making a joke where we all get to feel superior then it is usually OK (ha ha). Just realize that the butt of the joke might rightly have his/her feelings hurt if he hears/reads it. So if you make a joke about some of the stupid posts here it could well hurt people's feeling and create an unwelcoming atmosphere. I find that any joke that relies on the "in" laughing about some others and the stupid things that they do can be hurtful, elitist, and unwelcoming. For that reason they are worse than "not PC". Jokes about the stupid things we ourselves have done are usually OK, even if they obliquely reference a group like "When I was a n00b, I . . ." but I can see how those can easily cross the line too. I think that a simple joke about a person doing something stupid is funny and we all can laugh at it without hurting anyone (which is what PC means, not hurting anyone's feeling though PC is often taken to an extreme), like the joke about shooting the guy because the 911 operator says "First, let's make sure he is dead". --Justanother 16:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I like that one. But is it offensive to NRA people say? 8-)--Light current 17:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Laughing is about oneself first. Let's create a committee for the preservation of stoopidity. If there were only smart people everywhere, no more jokes would be possible. -- DLL ^{.. T} 17:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am sure that they would find it the funniest. Now if it was "Did you hear about the NRA member . . ." --Justanother 17:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes of course that would be anti NRA members, but still funny! 8-)--Light current 20:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean that when people say "you're retarded" or jokes about retarded people? The velociraptor 23:25, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No I dont think jokes about retarded people are acceptable--Light current 23:31, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What are the opportunities and threats of Mercedes-benz SLR Mc Laren?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.246.51.163 (talk • contribs)

• opportunities: Fast car (= speedy transportation, fun, status)
• threats: Fast car (= danger of dying, pollution)

do you want more specifics ? Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren. -- ExpImp^talkcon 11:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think he's asking for a SWOT analysis; in other words, he's asking for forces in the market (external factors) that are opportunities/threats for people who want to sell more Mercedes-Benz cars. --Kjoonlee 18:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe pollution from a Mercendes Benz is much plausible physical threat to a McLaren. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 05:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I currently live in Australia. The other day i was thinking of some famous quotations said by Australian politicans, but then i began to wonder-' are these famous in other countries?'. like everyone heard clinton say "I did not have relations with that woman" or Nixon "I am not a crook". What are the quotes by Australian politcans that you personally remember? (PLease don't answer this if you're Australians, nor actually research anything. I am just interested in your opinion".

Cuban Cigar 08:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"G'day mate, fancy another shrimp on the barbie?" <g,d&r> JIP | Talk 10:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know any Australian politicians, besides this Howard-guy.. was he called Howard ? right, he is indeed called Howard. And i don't know a single quote.... After asking 2 of my friends, i believe that it is quite common in Europe to know of no famous quotations of Australian politicians.-- ExpImp^talkcon 11:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I second that - I'm in Europe and I don't know any quotations from Australian politicians either. In fact, I'm struggling to think of anything any Australian politician has done that has became well known in Europe. At the moment all I can come up with is Paul Keating putting his hand on the Queen's bum. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 11:42, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do they have politicians in Australia?  --Lambiam^Talk 12:29, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here in the US, I can't think of any famous quotes from an Aussie politician, either. However, if you list some that you consider famous, perhaps they may ring a bell. Note that I can think of some famous British politician quotes, like "Peace in our time" and "We will fight on the beaches...". StuRat 13:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At least you now have a famous quote from an Ozzie religious leader.... --Zeizmic 13:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which quote is that ? StuRat 14:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6090136.stm

That's an interesting quotation in the light of this, which suggests it's the cats that are the problem in Australia.--Shantavira 17:42, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Calls to mind the Attila the Stockbroker poem, Contributory negligence.

"Do you fuck on first dates?" Ok, not a politician, but if he were I bet he would get enough votes for a seat in parliament. DirkvdM 19:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What about the one by the Oz Prime Minister in support of comments made by one of his Ministers the other week in which he (the PM) said on his weekly radio chat show something like, "Muslims coming to Australia are welcome to share in the benefits of being here, but they need to know that in Australia we speak English, not Japanese, not Arabic, but English, and if they want to go home to where they can enjoy Sharia Law, we will not deprive them of that human right. They should also remember that when Muslims come to Australia, it is they who will have to adapt to our Australian culture - Australians will never have to adapt to the Muslim way of life." Sorry for any misquotes but that is the message that he left with me and one I shall repeat repeatedly.

I agree with that quote, and would even go further: "If you want to wear a burqa, stay in a country where that's the custom. If you want to preach global jihad, then go blow yourself up somewhere else." StuRat 05:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And if you're from the US and think people in other countries don't so things the right way, then stay the fuck home if that's the place you prefer so much. DirkvdM 07:12, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And if you're a disgruntled brit keep it to yourself; none of us shape public policy --froth^{T C} 18:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He's not a disgruntled Brit, he's from the Nether Regions. :-) StuRat 19:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. Most of the rest of the world would struggle to name an Australian politician, let alone something they've said. How many famous quotes by Canadian politicians can you think of? What about from the Republic of Ireland? Didn't think so. The advantage of this is that foriegners, as a rule, don't remember our bad politicians either...--Robert Merkel 05:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm British and, for many years now, have been amused at the regular outbursts by Mark Latham reported in the UK press. I've forgotten the exact nature ofof many of his memorable quotes, but they usually involve calling someone (usually Howard) an "arsehole" or an "arselicker". The only Aussie political quote i could repeat verbatim, is his reference to the Aussie representatives visiting Bush in the US as: "a conga line of suckholes". Its a quote, i firmly believe, everyone should try to incorporate into their vocab. Rockpocket 07:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Mark Latham has some classics. As does Paul "Scumbag" Keating, who described Australia as the "arse end of the world" and gave us "the recession we had to have" and said John Howard "slither[ed] out of the Cabinet room like a mangy maggot". Then there's Bob Hawke's "by the year 1990, there will be no Australian child living in poverty" even though "anyone who sacks a bloke because he doesn't turn up for work today is a bum" (after winning the America's Cup). Some others:

• Gough Whitlam's strangled enunciation on being sacked as PM: “Ladies and gentlemen, well may we say "God Save the Queen", because nothing will save the Governor-General. The proclamation you have just heard was countersigned Malcolm Fraser, who will go down in history as Kerr's cur”. But "the fun is where I am!" and "maintain the rage and enthusiasm!" indicates a lighter side.
• Robert Menzies: “I am one of the few men honest enough to say they do not understand women”, and "A man may be a tough, concentrated, successful money-maker and never contribute to his country anything more than a horrible example".
• John Howard: "you must remember that the Australian voter has a short memory span - less than 14 days in most cases". It's great when politicians respect their constituents. Natgoo 10:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But it's true! :) In fact I wonder if there's any basis for this - say if people analysed data from polls at certain times - i.e. the government does something controversial and suddenly drops below 50% support, maybe in two weeks time the polls always jump back to the way they were before or something. --WikiSlasher 13:57, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ha ha some good quotes there even ones that I forgot about. And I thought that people would know more about Australia because it was important (at least i think so).Cuban Cigar 12:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm excluded from answering, but here are a few quotes that you can read in your spare time if you like:

• Menzies: Australia is British to the bootstraps
• Menzies (toasting the Queen at Parliament House, Canberra): I did but see her passing by, and yet I love her till I die (itself a quote from ?? Robert Herrick)
• Harold Holt: Australia will go all the way with LBJ
• Arthur Calwell: Two Wongs don’t make a White
• William McMahon: I am not a homo (best remembered as screaming headlines that took up the whole front page of a Sydney rag)
• Whitlam: I have not referred to the Democratic Labor Party as whore; I have, however, referred to her as "the prostitute of politics"
• Malcolm Fraser: Life wasn’t meant to be easy
• Keating: Australia is in danger of becoming a banana republic
• Howard: We will never, ever have a GST (spoken in early 1996; in 2000, he introduced a GST over the objections of millions)
• Howard: I want Australia to be relaxed and comfortable
• Howard: The times will suit me
• Howard: We will decide who comes to this country, and the circumstances in which they come.
• Robert Ray: referred to Mal Colston as The Quisling Quasimodo from Queensland.

JackofOz 01:06, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i am looking for info about a hood ornament-looks like an indiand cheiftan- alabaster with chrome edgeing @ end of headress-looks like it had light inside?

Is it one of these? Anchoress 09:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do you rewrite a page so it isn't blatant advertising, and is encyclopedic in nature. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OHM_Tech_Ltd

I thought this article would be of use as there are probably thousands of test stickers on thousands of pieces of equipment all over the country, so it might help people find out what they were.

Thanks

For questions about editing Wikipedia, it's best to use the help desk. But for starters, see WP:NPOV and perhaps WP:SPAM. Unfortunately, there are an increasing number of articles like that in Wikipedia and it's difficult to keep on top of them.--Shantavira 12:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What preys on the American tree frog? And what do they prey on ?

• The American green tree frog article has some information about their diet (apparently mostly insects), and by following a few links from the article, we get to their Amphibiaweb article, at [24], which has a lot of detailed information about them. Feel free to ask if you need help with the proper citation for an assignment, or if you have trouble working through a page that thick. (Category O is apparently "Predators"). -- Creidieki 16:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

A girl in my school walks like Voldo... is this a disease or what? --froth^{T C} 17:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If requesting medical or legal advice, please consider asking a doctor or lawyer.--Shantavira 17:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not asking for advice... --froth^{T C} 20:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yea that was a little trigger happy, IMHO, Shantavira. Sorry though, I can't help with your question. Maybe you could ask her? Aaadddaaammm 02:52, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You could try asking her. Maybe she has a bad back or thinks it's cool or something. --WikiSlasher 13:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can anyone tell me the best way to remove salt formations from brick surfaces? Thanks

High pressure water hose? Johntex\^talk 18:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's efflorescence, and our articles are just stubs. You can buy an acid brick cleaner from the hardware store, or you can use muriatic acid. --Zeizmic 20:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• • This is the best overview of cleaning brick surfaces: [Guideline] -THB 03:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What isotope of Uranium is commonly found in trace amounts in cigarettes? The Ayatollah 18:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Polonium-210 [[25]] . I think our article on polonium was written by a smoker! :) --Zeizmic 20:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can Polonium 210 be used for nuclear weapons? Jamesino 22:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Isnt it obvious from our page on it?

Polonium-210

This isotope of polonium is an alpha emitter that has a half-life of 138.39 days. A milligram of polonium-210 emits as many alpha particles as 5 grams of radium. A great deal of energy is released by its decay with a half a gram quickly reaching a temperature above 750 K. A few curies (gigabecquerels) of polonium-210 emit a blue glow which is caused by excitation of surrounding air. A single gram of polonium-210 generates 140 watts of heat energy. Since nearly all alpha radiation can be easily stopped by ordinary containers and upon hitting its surface releases its energy, polonium-210 has been used as a lightweight heat source to power thermoelectric cells in artificial satellites. A polonium-210 heat source was also used in each of the Lunokhod rovers deployed on the surface of the Moon, to keep their internal components warm during the lunar nights. Because of its short halflife though polonium-210 cannot provide power for long-term space missions and has been phased out of use in this application.

--Light current 22:28, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do I need to point out that polonium-210 is an isotope of polonium, not uranium ? StuRat 02:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Err. Yes good point. I dont think theres any uranium in my cigarettes! But it occurs in uranium deposits!--Light current 02:43, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Judging by the number of google hits for uranium & cigarette, it seems there is uranium in cigarettes... Or at least people think there is. Dismas|^(talk) 11:47, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the point here is that, even if there is a little uranium-238, it would be far less dangerous than its decay product polonium-210. That's basically because the half-life of uranium is so much longer, and therefore there are far fewer disintegrations per second in the same quantity of the radionuclide. The half-life of U-238 is about four billion years, so if the 138-day number is accurate for Po-210, that means a microgram of Po-210 would expose you to roughly 10 billion times the intensity of radiation that you'd get from a microgram of U-238. Of course the polonium will decay away, whereas the uranium won't, but still, your total exposure from the polonium will be more than 5 million times what you'd get from the uranium over the next hundred years. --Trovatore 21:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm--actually I think I dropped a zero; the calculation I had in mind would give "more than 50 million times" for the second comparison. However I wasn't taking into account the radioactivity of the uranium decay products, or the fact that natural uranium is more radioactive than U-238, so I'll leave it as "more than 5 million" and have lots of margin for error. --Trovatore 04:39, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do any nukes actually use Polonium 210? Jamesino 15:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, see Nuclear weapon. --Zeizmic 15:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

wow, a prime minister's term is over....so people RIOT??!?! What's their problem? just vote whoever's pissing you off out of office. Why can't any country emulate American style benevlonce-thru-$ ?

It's stupid. what a waste. Let's the hope the UN invades their country and straightens them out.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/28/asia/AS_POL_Bangladesh_Politics.php

This sort of thing happens all the time in countries man. It really has a negative effect on international views of the given nation—coups, riots, pretty much all subnational violence. Remember that not every country can vote a leader out of office—in many countries violence is the only way. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 04:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What does America and benevolence have to do with each other? Joneleth 05:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you've never noticed, rioting is a pretty stupid, irrational act in itself; sometimes it's taking protest to the level of stupidity; or other times, it doesn't even have a point. People in the US have rioted because their pro sports won a championship. I think a lot of rioting happens because people are angry and they don't know how to direct that anger toward any benefical means. This isn't a culture thing. In general, all over the world, regardless of culture, economy, or government, you will find rioting happening. —Mitaphane _talk 19:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

mmmm, since when was America a perfect model for democracy?! Englishnerd 19:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion its been a long time since America was a democracy. Joneleth 03:04, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good, because it's a constitutional republic. And last time I checked, the UN hasn't fixed anything.--Tbeatty 04:45, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Last time I checked USA didnt fix anything either, and possibly finding someone worse than yourself doesnt make you better. Joneleth 06:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm writing a novel at but I'm unsure about the meaning of a certain name. I believe it is of Japanese origin. The name is Toya (I'm not too fussy about the Kanji combinations to form various meanings) and I found that it could mean Peach Blossom. Is that correct and if not what are the various possible meanings? Thank you for your help! : )

The language desk is probably the better place to ask this. Dismas|^(talk) 20:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's the word for a species of animal or something that lives on one island and not anywhere else? 64.198.112.210 19:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A related term is "insular evolution". That is the process, not a term for such a species. --Justanother 19:31, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I find them just called "insular species" or "island species". Example here. --Justanother 19:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you are thinking of Endemic (ecology) MeltBanana 20:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Endemic is the word. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 04:51, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When you play counter-strike the bullet spread is usually enough that you don't have to be pointing the crosshairs right at your target to fatally hit it. The first shots are usually very accurate, with the bullets usually hitting within a few inches of your target at any reasonable range.. but if you keep firing they can go a dozen feet wide in either direction at far range (it depends on the gun of course). If I find myself forced to "spray-and-pray" I usually think that I have about as good a chance of hitting him if I aim a foot to the right of him as if I aim right at him... but I'm curious to know how far you can take that and still have "about as good a chance." In other words, have any informal studies or whatever been done to test how normative CS:S bullet spread is? --froth^{T C} 20:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not an expert, but that actually sounds fairly realistic in terms of automatic fire - I seem to recall seeing somewhere that most automatic weapons, because of barrel heating and other factors (like the weapon jerking around in the user's grip causing fatigue, and so on) that a prolonged spread turns to scatter pretty quickly. Makes a lot of sense, really. I don't know if any statistical research has been done, but it's entirely possible. Tony Fox (arf!) 22:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The decrease in accuracy, and its magnitude is based on the gun's (also if silencer/flash suppressor is on) real effect on the user. You really can't hold down the trigger on a Kalsih and expect to be that accurate. Pistols take much shorter time to return back to normal accuracy than automatic guns. If you had the reticle on you would notice that when you shoot the reticle jumps to spread over a much larger area than say, if you were crouched and standing still. Spray-and-pray is known on many multiplayer games as being "n00bish" behavior. "Pump, don't hold" is more professional. If you aren't at close range, tapping and bursts is always the best way. I don't suggest ever holding down the trigger with a pistol unless you are just putting on surpressive fire while you are running your ass out of there. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 04:49, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a matter of whether to do it or not.. i'm curious as to the algorithm --froth^{T C} 18:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure it's not related to this phenomenon? --Maxamegalon2000 18:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Campus proxy blocks youtube sorry :/ --froth^{T C} 18:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's pretty weird. I'm guessing that the cheats have some negative side-effect. bibliomaniac15 00:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I cite this site as a reference?

See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 22:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ask questions about using Wikipedia on the Wikipedia:Help desk please; the reference desk is for questions about anything else. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 04:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to find out the list of chemicals that are in Cigarettes, Cigars, hookahs, chewing tabboco, et cetera, but I'm tired of the false stuff that Truth.com and PhilipMorris claim. Any websites with an [i]actual[/i] list? The velociraptor 23:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can certainly see why the tobacco companies would lie, but why would truth.com ? StuRat 01:04, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Finding a list of ingredients ranked by quantity is difficult. Anti-smoking sites like Truth.com tend to list every compound or element that has ever been found in tobacco with no indication of the relative risk each causes or even if each is commonly or rarely found in tobacco. A long list of scary chemicals is more effective than a shorter list. Rmhermen 01:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Truth.com gives info in a very biased manner, same with tobacco companies. You'd need to find a medical research type institution to get actual, factual results. For example, there was a commercial by Truth.com that talks about cyanide being in cigarettes. That's a very trace amount, but if you look at the article on cyanide, it's found in food too. And we don't even know if it's a harmful type. Like, I can start a campaign saying salt is bad for you, because it contains sodium, and chloride, both very toxic to humans! But of course, we know salt is not toxic like that. That's what Truth.com does, imo. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 01:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes they are. Believe it or not, but some people sometimes make typos or evne spelling mistakes! Yes, shocking! This does not mean that they are bad people to the very core, however. Aaadddaaammm 02:49, 28 October 2006 (UTC) - - For the benefit of those that don't understand Aaadddaaammm's comment please see this edit which was reverted by the poster. --hydnjo talk 20:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Any tips on driving a manual transmission such as uphill in traffic???

dont. :D

You've got two choices, neither of which are very pleasant, uphill in traffic is nasty - you can either put on the handbrake until there's a significant gap ahead of you, move into it, put the handbrake on again, and repeat in spurts, or you can just balance the clutch with the accelerator. Bear in mind that if you ever stop you will need to activate the handbrake to perform a hill start. The first of these options is mechnically best, but will lead to honking from anyone behind you, while grinding the clutch permanently will allow you to move very slowly, but will slowly damage it. Generally speaking, the slower the traffic the more appealing option 1 is - you should never rest the car using the clutch bite as a brake if you can possibly avoid it. --Mnemeson 01:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. Get it down to the lowest gear it'll handle without laboring. Then if you're forced to halt, crunch into the lowest gear that'll give you the accn you need! Also sound your horn at the bastard in front! If it don't clear him, it sure as hell will give you satisfaction 8-) --Light current 01:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1) Put your first foot on the brake.

2) Put your second foot on the clutch.

3) Put your third foot on the accelerator.

...perhaps this is why Americans prefer automatics. :-) StuRat 02:32, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fortunately, we Europeans evolved third legs ;-) Although strangely, the French took sole command of the reputation for being good lovers. --Mnemeson 02:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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i hate automatic transmissions and only drive sticks- they get better acceleration, have far fewer mechanical problems and can contribute to increased fuel efficiency and quick deceleration in combination with the brakes. driving on hills can be tricky but is easily mastered on even the steepest hills with a little practice. obviously practice is best done on the steepest hills you can find in the least traffic, but here's a couple tips.

1) use the same foot for the gas and brake even when you're stopped. practice getting your foot off the brake and onto the gas pedal quickly; it's impossible to manipulate a hand brake and the gear shift at the same time; it's a bad option. this means your vehicle WILL roll backwards slightly, but this is normal and to be expected.

2) don't step off the brake and onto the gas until you have enough room to move forward. when you do, give it plenty of gas, so you don't have to bear down on the gas pedal to synchronize the pressure plate, but rather sort of let off the gas as the pressure point is reached and the clutch starts to grab. if you let the clutch out too fast, with too much gas, you might chirp the tires a bit but at least you're not rolling backwards. with a little practice you'll find out how to balance the gas pedal and clutch pedal. with enough gas, you can smoothly let out the clutch and not stall the motor while the pressure plate spins up to speed. don't worry about "riding the clutch", just try to put the vehicle into motion smoothly.

3) remember that the vehicle in the rear is found at fault in the vast majority of collisions, and unless you rolled your car half a car length down the hill backwards, they'll be found at fault if they're so far up your backside you roll a few inches or a foot into them.

LOL, just go ahead and ram into the guy behind you, then ! StuRat 17:52, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

4) relax. the goal is to step off the brake and onto the gas, and let out the clutch all in one fluid motion. in practice, this means your left foot is releasing -toward- the pressure point (using the play before the clutch engages) while you're stepping down on the gas pedal. by the time the pressure point is reached, you're already gassing it up.

5) if you're really very new to a stick shift and not comfortable with someone on your tail, you can turn on your hazards before a car comes to a stop behind you. they'll think you're car's disabled or something, and be much less likely to ride your bumper- they'll think they might need to swerve around you, and leave themselves some room.

good luck and PEACE -inf

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Have donkeys ever been trained to drive stick shift?Edison 17:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I live in Edinburgh Scotland UK where we have zillions of US tourists - at least half of the 10% of the US population of 300 million who actually own passports and venture outside of America must visit us every summer and autumn and at least half of them (7.5 million, or so it seems from the slow-moving traffic they create), just have to hire a manual transmission car. Watching them trying to master the manual gear changes, especially going uphill in slow moving traffic is so funny. And then they encounter the fact that we drive our cars on the Right of the car but on the Left of the road, and it gets hysterical. And then they approach a roundabout (Rotary) with maybe 7 or 8 exits each controlled by traffic lights that MUST be obeyed, even when no other car is in sight, and the entertainment is indescribably funny. And then when they do park they have difficulty finding the parking brake. Here, it is called the handbrake because that's how we operate it. But US tourists can't find it because they have their parking brake on the floor back home so it can be used by their redundant foot. And then when they go for petrol (gas), and have to do it themselves because we don't employ attendants to do it for them or us - we have to do it ourselves, and can't find the filler cap because it's under the bonnet (hood), or in the boot (trunk) they go apoplectic (get real mad). And they can't understand why all our paper currency (Bills) are all different sizes and colours with different images on them, and are issued by different Banks in Scotland and The Royal Mint in England and are all fully interchangeable. But the greatest laugh of all is when they go to the cash desk to pay for their fuel and the attendant charges them (currently)£4 (equivalent to about $8) per gallon and the tears really begin to flow (theirs not ours, we are used to it). And you thought that changing gear in a manual gearbox going uphill behind slow moving traffic was the real pain? Just speak to someone from the US who has been here and hired a car. And yet --- they all come back again so maybe the adventure and different car culture experience is worth the effort - and the expense.

They may have difficulty in finding a rental car that has an automatic transmission there. And even if they drive a manual at home, an unfamiliar manual is harder to drive than an unfamiliar automatic, since that brings up issues like the number of gears, gear shift pattern, and how soft the clutch is. Also note that self-serve gas stations are the norm in the US now. Full service is quite rare. StuRat 17:49, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Put your right foot on the brake, and let out the clutch with your left foot just enough that you can hear by engine rpm that it's starting to bite. When you're intimately familiar with the sound of your car it's easier than with a strange car, but usually then you can go from the brake to the gas with minimal slip-back. As you press on the gas then let out the clutch the rest of the way. With practice it becomes easy. When I bought my first stick-shift car I took it to a deserted hilly area at night and just did it over and over again until I got it.

I'm one of those weird people (at least in the U.S.) who prefers stick shifts; currently I'm driving a six-speed rather than a five. You have better control, acceleration, and economy, and it gives you an excuse not to answer the phone. Antandrus (talk) 17:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Get a car with a hill-holder. Would be a nice option on all stick-shifts. --hydnjo talk 20:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One final tip: if you're an American abroad who can't find an auto transmission vehicle to hire, and you're not confident with a manual, hire a diesel if you have a choice. Not only will it be much cheaper to run, diesel engines are much less likely to stall. And, finally, it's not that hard. If you can't master a manual transmission, IMNSHO you lack sufficient coordination and concentration to drive a car safely. --Robert Merkel 22:13, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They may have had sufficient concentration if they could pay attention to the road, instead of having to pay attention to shifting in a strange car. StuRat 22:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 28

A question to which I have not found an answer. Think back to the night scene aboard the Orca, when the men were swapping stories about injuries, and Quint gave the immortal speech about the USS Indianapolis. What kind of watch was Richard Dreyfuss' character Hooper wearing in this scene? Thanks!! Captain Fog 01:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)Captain Fog[reply]

i'm buying a heater for my betta whose in a 10 gallon tank. does anybody know the cost of one that is pretty cheap but still ok? i went to "breeding bettas" and other sites, but they're not very specific. -Dixie48

• Try the classifieds in your local newspaper or on craigslist for a used one. -THB 03:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's a really small heater, and you're local Walmart (whatever!) will have good ones. --Zeizmic 14:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC) thanks![reply]

Hello, everybody. I just want to know one thing. I am planning to go to Philmont Scout Ranch in July of 2007 (this coming summer). My Scoutmaster advised me to go look at what kinds of poisonous plants are in that area. I immediatly thought of this place. Please help out as much as you can. Thanks and have a good day!!--Chilifix 03:03, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Try Category:Poisonous plants. Probably the ones your scoutmaster is thinking about poison ivy, poison oak, and poison sumac. Please don't forget to practice Leave No Trace ethics, and have fun! -THB 03:12, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• • Oh, and to remember about the poisonous plants, "Leaves of three, let it be". -THB 03:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• • • Thank you very much, THB!!! And yes, I will try to follow the Leave No Trace thing.--Chilifix 03:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is going to be pretty obscure - but can anyone supply the price range of a Fender Stratocaster in 1967? I'm not asking what it'll be worth today, but what it would've cost then, in US dollars of course.

Someone with a late 60s' Fender catalogue would be of much help, or anyone else who's willing to help.

Thanks Harwoof 03:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not exactly but sorta [26]. This looks like the bible, maybe your local library has it or can get it on library exchange [27]. --Justanother 13:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its true that in DVD of Doom (film), you can do something to watch the ENTIRE moving in fps view???

No, that's silly. They would have had to film the entire movie twice. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 04:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would you eat crow if they really had done that? --Kjoonlee 09:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Crow can be tasty when prepared correclty. :) X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 08:16, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I vividly recall a line from a Broadway Musical that was said by the lead, unfortunatedly I cannot recall the name of the show, the year, or the character. The line is"...the Mexican Avenue Express?" Can anyone help me? Thanks John (email removed)

Are you sure it's Mexican and not Lexington? User:Zoe|(talk) 19:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

should education be concerned with question of values, personal convictions or with only descriptive knowledge in specialized areas like physis economics etc..?

To educate is to give "intellectual, moral and social instruction" Concise Oxford. Meredith----

values and personal convictions cannot be taught, they can only be decided on by the individual. parents and societal institutions such as schools can influence those decisions through positive and negative stimuli, and i think each has an obligation to provide young people with tools to examine their values, and evaluate philosophical arguments in general, but after about age 5 it's extremely difficult to indoctrinate most people into any particular belief system or system of values. Lrpelkey 11:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think that anybody else's answer to your 'should' question will be of any greater weight than your own answer? --ColinFine 13:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you(Lrpelkey) say after age 5? Surely later than that. I was a hardcore libertarian for years until recently I became staunchly anti-libertarian.(I'm in my 20's now)

So you changed from hardcore to staunchly. Not that big a change, I'd say. :) Hopefully, with the years, the insight will come that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. DirkvdM 06:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

School should not teach a specific set of values, religion or such because there are loads of varieties. In stead, if it does deal with the subject, it should give an overview of at least the major ones and inspire pupils to think about them through discussions. DirkvdM 06:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

where can i find a font that will accurately display music notation found in Wikipedia pages? is this something i can enable my browser to do automatically, or is there some central location on this site for system/browser utilities specific to Wikipedia content?

little blank boxes are driving me nuts. thanks in advance, and PEACE --10:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)~

• Hi, are you using Internet Explorer, by any chance? If your main font doesn't include the necessary characters, IE will not display them properly. Mozilla Firefox can make use of substitute characters from other fonts, if necessary. So you can either:
  1. Switch to a font that has more characters, such as Arial Unicode MS or Lucida Sans Unicode or DejaVu fonts
  2. Install more fonts and move to a browser with a "character fallback" feature --Kjoonlee 14:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone know who made the first model representation of a Porsche sports car?

RALPH.

Isn't a Porsche sports car a model of a Porsche sports car? Vitriol 00:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

what is this game? ive heard that its an eye toy game for the PS2.Will it ever be released in North America?thanks

Try Google. Guessing by the hits, I say it's very doubtful it will see a NA release. —Mitaphane _talk 18:51, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

one time i was reading a manga.The main charcter had meet an American kid,and whenever that American kid spoke, there was these signs;< >.For example:<oh what a lucky hit that was!>.But after a while those things stopped appearing,but they kept appearing on other American kids in that manga series.

I think it's a visual indication that the character is supposed to be speaking a foreign language. When you read the manga translated to English, the characters still speak in Japanese, only you get to read it in English. The <> thing means the character really is speaking English, or another non-Japanese language. It was the same way in 1980s Marvel comics. <> meant the character was speaking a non-English language. JIP | Talk 13:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a comics convention, see Speech_balloon#Foreign_languages. It's mainly an American thing (I think it originated and was standardized in 70's-80's Marvel comics) and was likely added by the American editor. 惑乱 分からん 13:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

–Price Chopper headquarters is identified as being in Rotterdam, New York, Can you provide full address including zip code?

From the whois

  Registrant:
  The Golub Corporation   
  501 Duanesburg Road 
  Schenectady, NY 12306 

Also switchboard.com is best for searching but I will leave that up to you. --Justanother 17:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is it legal to sell yourself into slavery.

To the degree that slavery is illegal I imagine it doesn't matter who does the selling as I think it is the owning of slaves that is usually prohibited. --Justanother 17:14, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the U.S. in the colonial period and perhaps after, many immigrants came over "on credit" without haveing the money for passage. After arriving, the ship captain gave a list of passengrs to the customs house. There were no immigration restrictions, so it was legal for anyone to come without papers). The arrivals who owed for passage were then auctioned off as indentured servants for a term such as 7 years to the highest bidder, to reimburse the shipping company. Sometimes some of the children might be sold this way, and some of the family remained free. The indentured servants were slightly better off than slaves during the indenture, in the sense that they had more legal rights, but worse off in others, in that the owner had no real incentive to keep them alive for the long run, and did not own their offspring, so didn't care if they were well enough to reproduce. If they ran away, they could be whipped and time added to their indenture. Today, illegal immigrants from some Asian countries are smuggled into the US in cargo containers and basically sold to people such as factory or restaurant owners for a very high cost of passage, and are made to live in horrible conditions until their debt is paid. Other people worldwide are trafficked for sex work and treated as slaves, sometimes with a payment to their families. So it used to be done in the 18th and 19th century under color of law, and it is still done and the laws not enforced.Edison 17:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indentured servitude was quite different from slavery. Also, it was rare for the term of service to extend as long as seven years. Three or four years was more common. Durova 23:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. See prostitution. --Shantavira 18:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you could, who would get the money? 8-)--Light current 18:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yourself or your family presumably --froth^{T C} 19:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not in the US, all slavery is forbidden by the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. —Mitaphane _talk 19:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What if you're wearing a mask? --Trovatore 20:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

THats not funny!--Light current 20:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeesh, I hate to explain my jokes. But it occurred to me that this exchange will be archived, and people won't remember the context, so I'd better. The context is that there has been a rash of trollish questions where the questioner asks if some outrageous thing is legal, like beating someone to death with a cactus. Then he asks if it's legal if you're wearing a mask when you do it. --Trovatore 20:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Im well aware of that. But we must not now be funny on pain of blocking. See my talk page 8-(--Light current 21:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I dont think its possible to sell yourself in to slavery. THe question is ill posed.--Light current 20:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not so. In ancient Rome people in debt would sell themselves into slavery to pay off their debt. Plautus wrote about this as the basis for some of his comedies. Of course, you could also buy yourself out of slavery at a later date of you could generate enough money to do so (so you were not perpetually enslaved). Selling oneself into perpetual slavery is an interesting philosophical proposition. John Stuart Mill considered this in On Liberty (1859):

"By selling himself for a slave, he abdicates his liberty; he foregoes any future use of it beyond that single act. He therefore defeats, in his own case, the very purpose which is the justification of allowing him to dispose of himself.... The principle of freedom cannot require that he should be free not to be free. It is not freedom to be allowed to alienate his freedom"

In other words, Mill refuses to allow a person voluntarily to sell himself into perpetual slavery. However, one could infer, he probably would permit one to sell oneself into some type of contractual slavery (as the Romans essentially did). Rockpocket 21:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Contractual slave = indentured servant. StuRat 00:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey thats not funny. So its allowed 8-)--Light current 00:24, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is not allowed if owning slaves is illegal. --Justanother 02:20, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there an article which shows, with good overview, IN WHAT PARTS OF THE WORLD, at which times, clocks are set back/forward? Is America's one-hour-back happening this weekend, or next..? 81.93.102.3 19:51, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spring forward, fall back. Seriously 8-)--Light current 20:14, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That really doesn't answer his or her question, LC. In the US the clocks go back to standard time on the last Sunday in October (October 29, 2006). The time is adjusted at 2 AM. Our article on Daylight saving time is pretty comprehensive in covering the subject globally. Rockpocket 20:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I should add, of course, that there are variations in different states (see here) and that in 2007 the date changes to the first Sunday in November (November 4, 2007). Rockpocket 20:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well in the UK we change at 2.00 AM 29 October. I think well then be back on GMT (we have been ob BST) No joke!--Light current 20:42, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the plan is to change the spring forward/fall back dates next year in the US. Personally, I think time zones (and especially daylight savings times) are all just foolishness, and we should all use UTC, instead. StuRat 23:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They are done for reasons that I cant quite remember now. 8-|--Light current 23:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You should try visiting Russia - where all the railway timetables show Moscow time, even though local time can be up to 9 hours different! -- Arwel (talk) 15:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any relation between UFO's and F-14's? Any encounters? Any UFO's that turned out to be a F-14? Thanks, Myth

Look at the article UFO.--Taida 20:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

moved to Help desk--Light current 22:32, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a n antivandalbot didn't revert you this time! ^_^ Hyenaste ^(tell) 23:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yers!. It did the last time. Id forgotten about that!--Light current 00:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is the name for (and is there a Wikipedia article on) the sound that is sometimes used when music is "cut off". The only example I can think of is in the infamous tastless 9/11 tribute on YouTube (the sound between the Enya song and Yakety Sax). It sounds a bit like when you're turning the dial on a radio. Thanks. --Adam (Talk) 22:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's probably the sound made when the needle on a turntable is carelessly pulled off a vinyl record. If you hear that sound, then the record has been scratched. Thus, the sound indicates that somebody was more concerned with stopping the record immediately than with preserving the record. StuRat 22:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Anyone know where I can download this sound off the Web? --Adam (Talk) 23:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Google is your friend. —Mitaphane _talk 20:03, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is it like a rough sounding upward glissando sound?--Light current 00:44, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 29

got bumped from a fliight and I got a voucher. how do I use it when booking online? (american airlines)

If their web page offers you no option for this, you may need to call their reservations office.  --Lambiam^Talk 05:16, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should I buy Oblivion for the PS3? Somebody is inevitably is going to answer "Well, it's your choice". I know that, I just want to know if people think it will be a good game. Яussiaп F 01:03, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Compared to the expectations it is somewhat disappointing (but thats to be expected of all overhyped games). Compared to other RPGs its great. The 2 biggest complaints there has been about the game has been lvl scaling, and too extensive handholding, whether you like that or not is up to yourself. Joneleth 02:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The reference desk is for asking about factual matters only, not gathering opinions. Try Gamespot or something -Elmer Clark 10:24, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When looking at a page like List of Nunavut birds the syllabics show fine in Firefox but in in Maxthon or IE7 I just see the little boxes. If I copy and paste from Maxthon into MS Word to edit, then the syllabics show up fine. The strange thing is that it's just on my home computer, all of the work computers show everything fine in both browsers. How do I get the syllabics back? Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:20, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might try this question at the Computing/IT desk. -THB 05:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Don't know why I posted here, except the answers tend to be stranger. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 05:39, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I recently downloaded a 7.5GB .torrent of PDF bootlegs of recent Dungeons & Dragons books, magazine articles, web supplements and stationery. Most of it is from WotC, but some is from third-party publishers. I found the folder organization incomplete and slipshod...

You get what you pay for, eh? —Steve Summit (talk) 15:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(with many supplements and tracking sheets filed under "Core Rulebooks"), and several duplicate and triplicate books. I'm trying to reorganize and edit the torrent's contents for burning to a DVD±R for my club's use, and also to create a new version of the torrent. My questions are as follows:

• The torrent contains both 3.0e and 3.5e material. Most of the optional rulebooks, setting books (e.g. Forgotten Realms) and modules don't specify which edition they're for. In this case, can I assume they work with either post-THAC0 edition?
• In the books of which there are multiple copies, I'll sometimes have one with higher-resolution scans of the artwork, one with proofread OCRed text, and one with sections and tables bookmarked. Is there an easy way to combine all these into one file, assuming perfect page-to-page correspondence between them, and eliminate redundant data?
• I'm thinking it might be best to include shortcuts, to make more than one sorting scheme available without duplicating files. (So for instance, I could sort by publisher first, edition first, function first or setting first, and also make A-Z indices of races, classes, spells etc.) Will the shortcuts likely be retargeted as necessary by BitTorrent and the DVD-burning software? Will .lnk shortcuts work (or easily be converted) on Macs and Linux systems? (I'll be creating the DVD and torrent from Windows.)

NeonMerlin 02:18, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you should try this question over at the Computing/IT desk. -THB 05:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The first question isn't computing/IT, even if it's the computing/IT people who would know the answer. NeonMerlin 14:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1. No idea 2. You can not easily combine PDFs. You have to convert them from PDF and then back again and the conversion will probably produce garbled results or will not even be possible. 3. .lnk files do not really work in linux nor mac (I think) and the standard unix link files do not work in windoze. Probably the easiest way to organise these files would be a simple HTML file. The 'pooting desk may offer better ideas for home-made solutions or suggest a e-book cataloguing application. MeltBanana 15:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm a student studying at Mount Roskill Grammar School in New Zealand. Does anyone know what is required to be a prefect at that school?

-upperclassman -trustworthy -honest -non-biased -at least slightly charismatic

good luck!

Surely you would be better off asking the teachesrs. 8-|--Light current 07:09, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

how much, within $5-$10, will it cost me to ship a document in 24 hours half-way across the USA?

fedex's system was down, they can't give me a quote!

Probably about $25, that would be if you have your own shipping account, if you go to fedex/kinkos, might be more like $40. --Mattarata 03:24, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am interested in knowing how Mr. Shyamalan came up with the name, Merrill Hess, and that character's baseball background for this movie. Thank you........

M. S . Hess

what is the best way to vandalise wikipedia?— Preceding unsigned comment added by SoulSceptre (talk • contribs)

By asking questions at the reference desk and not signing them. -THB 05:55, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I could tell you but I'd be violating WP:BEANS. --WikiSlasher 07:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Posting joke questions on the RDs 8-|--Light current 07:12, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no "good" way to vandalize Wikipedia. Any and every way is bad. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 08:12, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

get a popular television show and instuct your viewers to edit a random article and watch what happens. Jon513 11:18, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

go here [28] and see what these people did by clicking on their contributions. I think this one's pretty good. [29]Taida 18:19, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i heard that it is more tyring to travel from west to east than from west to east. is it true and if yes what is the reason behind it.

Please see the penultimate paragraph of jet lag. -THB 05:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And geostrophic wind, if you're in the southern hemisphere.--Shantavira 08:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does weightlifting affect your height? i'm now 15 and i haven't grown an inch since when i was 12. i am still 1.81m

Well, that's possible if you work very hard, I guess, although maybe you weren't biologically predisposed to grow taller, to begin with... (1.81=6"0' approx). 惑乱 分からん 10:18, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

silly Wak, 1.81 m = 6'0"

(Forgive me, I'm Swedish, born and bred in Metric, besides, it's probably closer to 5'11") 惑乱 分からん 17:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a generally held opinion (I don't know if it's ever been verified) that lifting heavy weights before the bones are fully formed can lead to problems with the bone growth due to the constant forces exerted through the enlarged muscles.

However, I've never heard it claimed that it will actually stop the bones from growing at all, and that sounds pretty unlikely to me. You sound like you were a bit of giant for a 12yo, but perhaps that's it and you won't grow any taller, or maybe you'll have another growth spurt. You'd need to see an expert who could more accurately evaluate your personal characteristics (e.g., stage of puberty), family history (e.g., height of parents), etc. We can't evaluate any of that. --jjron 11:13, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wanna to be a football(soccer) analyst.Who can help me to achieve my goals? I mean are there any colleges who can give the education, which is related with these field?

What exactly do you mean by 'analyst'? I don't know of any specific courses, but for what it sounds like you want to do I'd think you'd want to continue in maths (especially statistics) with a strong emphasis on computer applications. That, along with trying to get your foot in the door on a practical level, e.g., by volunteering to keep stats and do analyses for local teams, gradually trying to get yourself involved with teams higher up the scale or with the media in some way. --jjron 11:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is the religion of the people in this photograph? Amish, Quaker, Mormon? --CGP 08:14, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks Amish to me. Natgoo 08:31, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd go with Amish. The article could do with some decent pictures of the people rather than their laundry!--Shantavira 08:41, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another possibility is Mennonite. There are a number of Mennonite communities. I don't know about the Amish but in the one community of Mennonites that I am familiar with they have no problem using modern equipment or going on vacations but they do dress traditionally like in the picture. --Justanother 19:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I used to rent a house from my Mennonite neighbors. Given that the picture is just the back of a bunch of people it would be hard to say that they were either Amish or Mennonite. The style of dress for the two religions is very similar. Dismas|^(talk) 20:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone know the Latitude and Longitude of the continental divide in yellowstone? I know it's a line, but that sign is on a road crossing the divided, and that's the location I'm looking for. --CGP 08:23, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

yellowstone is about 44.4592N, -110.8331W I cannot tell you the exact location of a road sign. Try looking on google earth. Jon513 11:10, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's what I've been doing, trouble is there aren't really identifiable landmarks that I can use to try and narrow the location of the divide down. --CGP 11:18, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

try adding the google earth community layer. it contains contrabutions from different people around the world. beware- it is not always accurate. Jon513 11:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ideally what you need is a good map with that spot height on it. I went to Flickr and searched for "continental divide yellowstone". This returns four results for that particular sign. One of those (click on the "map" link of the guy peeing) gives coordinates of 44°37' 29" N, 110°26' 03" W. From the look of the satellite photo, that would seem to be fairly accurate.--Shantavira 12:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

approximately how long does it take for regular mail to go from one side of the country to the other, ie vancouver to ottawa/montreal?

What is this time during peak months, the christmas holidays? valentines? mothers day? thank you

-jimbo

I'd say that if you're trying to get that Hallowe'en greeting to your friends in Ottawa and Montreal, you're probably too late. My personal experience is three or four business days during normal service. I think that would apply for Valentine's and Mother's day, although a couple of extra days wouldn't hurt. IIRC during the Xmas season (the only time that they actually have an extraordinary load), they say 9 business days for regular mail across Canada, just to be safe, and longer for parcels. In my experience it's usually taken less time than that. Anchoress 11:44, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for answering the question and for such a quick reply!=) -jimbo

At the risk of repeating myself...............

Weird. The transcluded page doesn't seem to exist. And it hasn't been archived. Probably in the diffs, but I'm too lazy to look. Maybe an archiving error? Maybe the transcluded page is mis-named? Anchoress 12:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No - it's not mis-named. There was an article I was keeping an eye on that is no longer there.

Sorry, I don't understand you. What does one have to do with the other? See, if you look in the edit mode of the Misc page, there's a transcluded page listed for October 27, but it isn't visible. And when I went to look to see what was in the transcluded page, it doesn't exist. So I wondered if the transcluded page was made, but misnamed. Elsewise, it must have been deleted, which is possible, but not likely. Anchoress 12:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - I'm not sure why the archival page wasn't made properly by the bot - my guess is a "loss of edit session data" error in wikipedia. I've manually fixed the error. For future reference, you can look at the bot contribs to see whether the pages have been made. I hope this helps, and I'm looking into a workaroud for the increasingly common error. Thanks for reporting it - Martinp23 14:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Martin, that is much appreciated.

No problem - it's my bot that screwed up :S Martinp23 19:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What would you guys say is the definition of the principle of training?

TAR JOZZALD

OK, I would say that training is instruction in the theory and practice of some subject with the desired end that you be able to duplicate the results of the instructor. In other words training is geared toward competence and doing, not merely knowledge. --Justanother 19:46, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Danke.100110100 16:14, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fashion Institute of Technology

B00P 16:23, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've googled their website, and their course descriptions do not include Fashion History as a 100 level course. I'm confused.100110100 17:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, there are undoubtedly fashion history courses somewhere. I don't know what "What are they?" means, though; Universities can create courses in anything they want and name the course anything they want. There's no standard for what courses should be named and contain. But you're much more likely to find courses in general art and design history than ones specifically devoted to couture. --BluePlatypus 16:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'What Are They?' I meant by the number and institution that offers it. Danke.100110100 17:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

why is it that almost every manga is black and white?i've only seen a blue inked manga once but it was in japanese.But when i bought a box of japanese yugioh cards,it came with a manga paper which had a chapter in the 5th volume inside;it was inked with RED!then when i saw that SAME chapter in English it was white and black!i was so confused.i wonder why most manga are black and white.Thanks for your time.

I think it's simply that it's competition driven and, despite recent advances in printing, black-and-white publications are still a lot cheaper to produce.--Shantavira 18:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, and it's more time-efficient, considering the sheer amount of material produced... 惑乱 分からん 18:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On a footnote, occasional pages of popular series are often colorized when published in magazines, although they're generally reprinted in B/W. You could usually spot them because they have more nuances/shades of grey, and they're often somewhat murky in appearance... 惑乱 分からん 20:16, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a a new paragraph to the page on 'Snuff Bottle' entitled 'Sybolism in Snuff Bottle decoration' and tried to insert a photo. I have tried to follow the instructions provided on the Wikipedia site but cannot make it work. I have finished up with E/Shou character.jpg/thumb/Shou character in words, which is how I understand the instructions, but the picture will not appear.

In the Upload window I get a message that " " is not an acceptable format although the pic is obviously a jpg.

How can I make sure I get the illustration in the article.?

John Battison

I fixed it - you needed to use a | not a / character. Wikipedia:Help desk is a better place to ask this kind of question (although I notice that the header on that page is terribly confusing!) Rmhermen 18:12, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Danke.100110100 17:41, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Orthography or Writing Systems is a part of linguistics. You would likely take your BA is linguistics and perhaps you can find an MA or PhD in Orthography. --Justanother 19:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would appreicate any input to my question. I have been accused of pushing someone. This person is flat out lieing. The Police report states that I extended my "left" arm, and put my "left" hand on his chest and pushed him. I'm right handed, and have argued that I would NEVER use my "left" arm & hand due to my strength and coordination is in my "right." Does anyone out there have a thought in how I may possibly prove my theory to my Attorney????

Joy Justen

Sorry, but it does not take a lot of talent to push someone with your "off" hand. That defense would only work if they said you did something with your left hand that requires a lot of dexterity. Pushing requires almost zero dexterity. I assume, of course, that your left arm is not deformed, injured, or otherwise handicapped. --Justanother 19:36, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do stars have sex on the set when the role requires ? How is Nip Tuck different from porn or is there any kind of rationality between impatience ?

Or is it the consequence of lack of constant application of the mind?