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:: {{xt|If you avoid including copyvios in your work, that shouldn't be a problem, surely?}} Nobody has yet confirmed that I've added anything close to a copyvio to any article, so it's not an established problem that requires the constant supervision. {{!xt|I really dislike the mindset that views other editors as "detractors"}} I'm 99% positive that they would self-identify as my detractor. {{xt|If you've got a genuine problem with a piece of content, and if you would have noticed and acted on that problem regardless of the editor who added it, then by all means raise it as an issue.}} I saw the article on the main page and ran it through the copyvio and dupe detectors, and that's how I identified several examples of close paraphrasing and possible plagiarism. {{xt|a perceived enemy}}, surely there are times when one editor is truly out to get the other, and it's not a AGF fail in those cases to be concerned, and that's how I feel about this particular person. [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 15:40, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
:: {{xt|If you avoid including copyvios in your work, that shouldn't be a problem, surely?}} Nobody has yet confirmed that I've added anything close to a copyvio to any article, so it's not an established problem that requires the constant supervision. {{!xt|I really dislike the mindset that views other editors as "detractors"}} I'm 99% positive that they would self-identify as my detractor. {{xt|If you've got a genuine problem with a piece of content, and if you would have noticed and acted on that problem regardless of the editor who added it, then by all means raise it as an issue.}} I saw the article on the main page and ran it through the copyvio and dupe detectors, and that's how I identified several examples of close paraphrasing and possible plagiarism. {{xt|a perceived enemy}}, surely there are times when one editor is truly out to get the other, and it's not a AGF fail in those cases to be concerned, and that's how I feel about this particular person. [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 15:40, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
:: FTR, I have diffs of eight different editors advising them to leave me alone, and several go so far as to suggest that they are stalking me. [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 16:07, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
:: FTR, I have diffs of eight different editors advising them to leave me alone, and several go so far as to suggest that they are stalking me. [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 16:07, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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:::{{tps}} Two wrongs do not make a right. You ''are'' being stalked to some degree, and they are "detractor" pretty much by self-admission, but it is best not to rise to it and certainly not to do something that might be perceived as retaliation. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 17:59, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
:::{{tps}} Two wrongs do not make a right. You ''are'' being stalked to some degree, and they are "detractor" pretty much by self-admission, but it is best not to rise to it and certainly not to do something that might be perceived as retaliation. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 17:59, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
:::: I won't retaliate. I promise. All I want is for it to stop, so I can build content without the distraction of constant accusations and stalking. [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 18:02, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
:::: I won't retaliate. I promise. All I want is for it to stop, so I can build content without the distraction of constant accusations and stalking. [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 18:02, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
:::::Sitush puts it better than I could. I'm not disagreeing that you have been targeted by other editors (or editor; I think we all know who we're talking about here), and that's to their shame, but you aren't going to clear the air by adopting similar tactics. [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Yunshui|<sup style="font-size:90%">雲</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<sub style="font-size:90%">水</sub>]] 19:22, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


== Not understanding an action ==
== Not understanding an action ==

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Joan Fontaine

hello Yunshui, you sent me a message regarding my changes to Joan Fontaine's page. She was my neighbor on Lower Walden rd. in Carmel highlands California. My reference is a primary reference. however I am sure there are many other places where the information can be found. Joan Fontaine did not live in Carmel, but rather lived and died in Carmel Highlands california on Lower Walden rd. Clayton.

mistake?

in this dif you deleted the AfD notice at Michael Stelzner - your edit note said "substantially different to previously deleted version in 2006; the new AFD needs to run its course." Perhaps you thought you were deleting a speedy G4 tag? Jytdog (talk)

I was - compare the two revisions of the page. Yunshui  11:33, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 29 April 2015

DYK for Zhifang waiji

Harrias talk 17:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

citations

Thank you for directing me to the essay you wrote. It surely did help me put the citations and references. :) Littlegliff (talk) 19:27, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome; let me know if you need any further help. Yunshui  10:27, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your help with my User's Page

A quick note to thank you for your explanatiin to elaborate my User's page the right way.

I definitely will use the part you provided as an example and will apply corrections to my page soon.

I really didn't grasp what was wrong with it.

Grateful thanks, Michelle 70.80.69.82 (talk) 23:46, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. By way, in editing here while logged out, you've exposed your IP address - since you're fairly open about your identity I doubt this is a problem, but if you'd like it expunged for any reason, please let me know. Yunshui  10:29, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Yunshui. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
A special thanks for your help at Ek Thi Reeta. Kaayay (talk) 08:04, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No problem at all - thanks very much! Yunshui  08:08, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

also a request to hide edits on my talk page. Babita arora 09:32, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Materialscientist has already slammed the blockdoor on them; I've redacted the edits to your talkpage as well. Yunshui  11:35, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Yunshui: Thank you very much. :) Babita arora 11:52, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Yunshui: Can you revoke this user's access to his own talk page? Babita arora 09:25, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Abso-flippin'-lutely; I've also deleted the page. What a thoroughly unpleasant character.
By the way, no need to ping me on my own talkpage - I get a big orange message whenever someone posts here! Yunshui  09:30, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Again Thanx; Actually I was so upset by these abusive messages. It has been going on since the past month. Now I am feeling a little bit better. Babita arora 07:08, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]


this edit shows that AHLM13 could have created all those multiligual socks. Everybody was blaming ZORDANLIGHTER. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.79.38.155 (talk) 06:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Action re-play?

A while ago, there were some problems with socks on Kirkwall Ba game; there seems to be an action re-play taking place. I've reverted a couple of times but haven't put any comments on the the editor's talk page as it looks like another obvious sock - to me anyway! As you dealt with it previously, I thought I'd pester you again. SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:02, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @Sagaciousphil: What are you doing here? I thought you were indeffed after this SPI OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:26, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Eric=Phil. It's obvious when you think about it, they have the same number of letters. Latest Elliotness sock blocked. Yunshui  11:45, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:37, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
We have another obvious one - Britmax has reverted but maybe we need another block? Is it worth considering protecting it again for a while? I know you're not generally around at the weekends but there's no hurry, unless, of course, Drmies is looking to earn an extra dollar? SagaciousPhil - Chat 07:56, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Drmies will have to earn his pocket money somewhere else; I've blocked the latest sock and protected the page again. Yunshui  09:10, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, much appreciated. SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:09, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 06 May 2015

Recreation of Sujit Meher Fake Designer Wikipedia page

--Rohtak camp (talk) 20:28, 8 May 2015 (UTC)Admin please note this article is not meeting Wikipedia notability guidelines and was deleted 3 times . But with same IP address and fake ID article was created again and again . I request you please block all fake editors which was created same day after deletion with Same IP address . I request you please block all IP address which was used or may be use tomorrow or day or so to recreate this page . Thanks --Rohtak camp (talk) 20:28, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've actually salted this page, so it can't be recreated by anyone who isn't an administrator. There's some probable sockpuppetry going on there as well, but I'm hoping that locking the page against recreation will solve the problem. Yunshui  06:53, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unplanned America

Hey, so I was looking up Unplanned America, which is a show that runs on the non-commercial Australian network SBS and is now streaming on Netflix. I saw that the page had been shutdown by you. I was curious as to why & how that occurs when almost every single US & UK TV show along with many from Australia have WIKI Articles, especially when it's existence and authenticity can be so readily verified. Even in other Wiki Articles like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_in_Australian_television

or websites such as: http://www.unplannedamerica.com/ http://www.sbs.com.au/programs/unplanned-america/

I'm a regular user of Wiki, but about to contribute so I'm more curious than ever as to how things work.

Thanks much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rugbypunk (talk • contribs) 03:33, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rugbypunk, welcome to Wikipedia. First up, you won't hear me disagreeing that the show is almost certainly notable and worthy of a Wikipedia article - I'm pretty certain we should have a page about it. However, the version of the page that I deleted had two problems. Firstly, large amounts of it appeared to have been copied verbatim from existing text on other websites - because of the way Wikipedia is licenced, that's a copyright violation, and so it needed to be deleted. Secondly, the way the piece was worded was highly promotional - it read like a press release advertising the TV series, which is not acceptable on Wikipedia.
I've nothing against someone recreating the page with new content, and if you'd like to do that, you'd be very welcome - we have a tutorial and a specific help page for creating your first Wikipedia article, so please feel free to check them out and have a go. Yunshui  06:58, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. You made the initial block of this user, so I'm going to you for this; however, I'm also putting this on Floq's talk page because he removed their talk page access. Wakalaka123 is apparently caught in Micah's blocked IP. I was a bit suspicious when Wakalaka came to me with no previous interaction about his article Chip64, but I let it go. However, Our dad wants us protected!! My brother is upset. Why! im way different than him! UNBLOCK ME! demonstrates the same lack of maturity which got the first account blocked. (Also, what should be done with Chip64? It has no references and reads like an advertisement, and a google search shows a blog review and a barely-arguable notability-establishing article.) Origamite 12:54, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User blocked by Floquenbeam. Origamite 16:55, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nowt left for me to do here except endorse Floq's actions... Yunshui  06:59, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Punisher

The Punisher page is being vandalized, IP address users (or one user) is deleting links and putting info were it's not needed with no explanation.[1][2][3].-108.82.5.50 (talk) 19:01, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't look like vandalism to me, more like an inexperienced editor (or editors) trying to make good-faith changes. What you have there is a content disputre - I suggest you take it to the article's talkpage. Yunshui  07:04, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting My Page

I was not finish editing my page and you just deleted it. It was creditable.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iddoss26 (talk • contribs) 08:03, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you are referring to Isiah Doss, then you had been working on the page for almost an hour without providing any evidence that the subject is notable. You also removed a speedy deletion template, after being specifically told not to. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, and we do not host articles on anyone and everyone. Without references to multiple, reliable, independent source that discuss the subject in some detail, the article is not suitable for Wikipedia.
If you wish to try and recreate the page, I recommend you use the Article wizard to submit it for review before it is published. However, since it seems likely that you are, in fact, the article's subject, you should not be writing about yourself anyway; please wait for someone else to establish that you are sufficiently notable for Wikipedia and write an article about you. Yunshui  08:10, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete this offensive edit history

This is written with uncivil words in Urdu using English letters Please delete the edit History and also hide the comments.--112.79.35.45 (talk) 08:25, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nice. Duly deleted. Yunshui  11:43, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For you

Plum-blossom
Some Spring Plum-blossom for you. Take care of the dogs. Hafspajen (talk) 14:05, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty, thanks Hafs. I hope you change your mind. Yunshui  14:10, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Question about protocol

One of my detractors has been following my work pretty closely and trying to identify copyvios and/or close paraphrases in my writing. My question is this: am I allowed to do the same to them, or would that be seen as inappropriate? I identified some pretty serious issues in one of their FAs, but I don't want to edit that talk page and be accused of impropriety. What should I do? RO(talk) 21:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you avoid including copyvios in your work, that shouldn't be a problem, surely? As for retaliatory nit-picking, yes, that would be inappropriate, unless you've identified an unambiguous copyright violation. I really dislike the mindset that views other editors as "detractors", by the way: with the exception of a small handful of trolls and vandals we are all here to make the encyclopedia better, and this habit of personalising disputes and setting up other editors as the "opposition" is one of the most harmful habits on Wikipedia. If you've got a genuine problem with a piece of content, and if you would have noticed and acted on that problem regardless of the editor who added it, then by all means raise it as an issue. If you only found the problem because you were meticulously searching through a specific editor's contributions for ammunition against them, then you shoud consider whether you're engaged in improving Wikipedia or just point scoring against a perceived enemy. Yunshui  07:26, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you avoid including copyvios in your work, that shouldn't be a problem, surely? Nobody has yet confirmed that I've added anything close to a copyvio to any article, so it's not an established problem that requires the constant supervision. I really dislike the mindset that views other editors as "detractors" I'm 99% positive that they would self-identify as my detractor. If you've got a genuine problem with a piece of content, and if you would have noticed and acted on that problem regardless of the editor who added it, then by all means raise it as an issue. I saw the article on the main page and ran it through the copyvio and dupe detectors, and that's how I identified several examples of close paraphrasing and possible plagiarism. a perceived enemy, surely there are times when one editor is truly out to get the other, and it's not a AGF fail in those cases to be concerned, and that's how I feel about this particular person. RO(talk) 15:40, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
FTR, I have diffs of eight different editors advising them to leave me alone, and several go so far as to suggest that they are stalking me. RO(talk) 16:07, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) Two wrongs do not make a right. You are being stalked to some degree, and they are "detractor" pretty much by self-admission, but it is best not to rise to it and certainly not to do something that might be perceived as retaliation. - Sitush (talk) 17:59, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I won't retaliate. I promise. All I want is for it to stop, so I can build content without the distraction of constant accusations and stalking. RO(talk) 18:02, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sitush puts it better than I could. I'm not disagreeing that you have been targeted by other editors (or editor; I think we all know who we're talking about here), and that's to their shame, but you aren't going to clear the air by adopting similar tactics. Yunshui  19:22, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not understanding an action

I don't understand why you did what you did with User:Paulkutty — you blocked the username, even though you didn't do anything to the page's creator, User:PaUl KuMaR (paulkutty). The shorter username has never made any edits, and the connection between the two is obvious, so the accounts aren't a violation of WP:ILLEGIT; unless PaUl hasn't been doing something wrong, why block his alternate account? And if he's been doing something wrong, why not block the main username, rather than just blocking the alternate? Nyttend (talk) 03:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll grant that my thinking behind that was somewhat convoluted, and the result was perhaps not what might have been expected. Basically, I identified an editor posting his personal information on multiple userpages in classic WP:NOTFACEBOOK style, and generating multiple accounts in order to do so. Since he'd gone as far as to register the Paulkutty account rather than just creating a page for a non-existent user (with, it would appear, the same modus operandi in mind), I figured blocking it was a quick and simple way of keeping him restricted to one account, with which I could then communicate - and hopefully, of getting his attention. I didn't block the main account becuase I was trying to be nice and encourage him to edit productively, however since literally all he has ever done on Wikipedia, both before and after my message to him, is post his personal profile, I'm not sure whether I shouldn't have blocked that account too, under WP:NOTHERE.
Either way, I have no intention of wasting any further time on the guy - if you want to undo my block, block the other account, or any combination of the two, you have my blessing to do so; I'm happy to trust your judgement on it. Yunshui  07:15, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This all makes sense to me, and now that I understand, I agree with blocking one and not the other. It's just that you treated it as a sockpuppet situation, and I couldn't remember seeing a sockpuppet situation where the self-confessed sock was blocked and the master not. I may unblock and immediately reblock with a different rationale, lest the account owner be confused too. Nyttend (talk) 12:31, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free, though I doubt it will make much difference; I suspect now that he's got "his" Wikipedia page up he'll never bother us again. Yunshui  12:39, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Create album

I do not bother with the greetings and the album under its Gngv single one of Wikipedia administrators create credible sources put the albums on resources.--5.232.45.64 (talk) 13:41, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Yunshui  13:46, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

shokofeha (song)javad ramezani--5.232.45.64 (talk) 13:51, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I realise that's the article you're discussing; I just don't understand what you're trying to say about it. Yunshui  13:55, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I spent three days with other users and cause them to speak in the debate and I prepared this article by 13 .krdym Please re-create another user account--5.232.45.64 (talk) 13:58, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any evidence that you've discussed this with other editors beyond posting the above message to a couple of people's talkpages. Articles about individual songs where the artist is not sufficiently notable for an article don't belong on Wikipedia. Yunshui  14:03, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Starters article panda123456789 can participate in the discussions of the user.--5.232.45.64 (talk) 14:08, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User:Panda123456789 has never edited a Wikipedia article or had a discussion with another user. The article was started by User:Japan123456789, who has also never entered into discussion with any other user. Yunshui  14:13, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

n the debate about the removal of this article described Japan123456789--5.232.45.64 (talk) 14:20, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop adding new headers for every response, it make replying more of a chore. Again, I do not understand what you are saying - are you telling me I should debate the deletion of the article with the user who created it, that User:Japan123456789 has discussed this somewhere (he hasn't), that there was a description of User:Japan123456789 at the AFD discussion which you want to draw my attention to... It's clear that English isn't your first language, and that's perfectly fine, but unless you can express yourself in a way that I can understand, I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to help you. Yunshui  14:25, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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