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== A barnstar for your patience in helping people ==
== You are amazing ==

I just looked at the history of [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2022/Candidates/Guide|Candidates/Guide]], and it struck me just how much work you do behind the scenes to make Wikipedia happen. So, take this:


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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | You have the patience of Job when you help editors with technical problems, and I thought you deserved some formal recognition for it.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 12:29, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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== Pronunciation ==
== A barnstar for you ==


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Hi xaosflux - I was communicating with another editor, and your name came up in reference to something we wouldn't need to do because you'd done it. However, this was overshadowed by a far more crucial issue: that we had each been confidently sure we knew how to pronounce your name since we'd been editing Wikipedia, and our two ways were different. So, tl;dr: how do you pronounce your username? [[User:Nosebagbear|Nosebagbear]] ([[User talk:Nosebagbear|talk]]) 23:39, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
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:@[[User:Nosebagbear|Nosebagbear]] I think this is the right markup: {{IPA|/ˈzeɪ.as.flʌks/}}. I'm not super picky since I rarely hear it aloud! — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:55, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
::(c.f. [[:testwiki:User talk:Xaosflux/phonos]]). — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:57, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
:::I didn't suspect three syllables. It was always just two in my head. [[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 01:04, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
::::@[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] think back in the day I derived it from the words "chaos" and "flux", and may have been inspired by the animated series [[Æon Flux]]. I've been called "Zous" by some. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 01:08, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
::::Don't worry about it, Joe. As a [[WP:Talk page stalker]] here, I thought it was just using the "X" for a Greek [[Chi (letter)|Chi]] and have always pronounced it as "Chaos Flux" in my head. TIL. [[User:Vanisaac|Van]][[User talk:Vanisaac|Isaac]], GHTV<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Vanisaac|cont]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex"><small>[[WP:WPWR|WpWS]]</small></sub> 01:49, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
:::::(That was my method, too, @[[User:Vanisaac|Vanisaac]]!) :) [[User:Nosebagbear|Nosebagbear]] ([[User talk:Nosebagbear|talk]]) 10:09, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
::::::Once we get the phonos extension installed, maybe we can make a new "hear my username" userbox! — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:15, 12 December 2022 (UTC)


== 8TV (Malaysian TV network) needs to be protected from unregistered users ==


== Thank You ==
Hello there. I wanted to tell and concern about this. [[8TV (Malaysian TV network)]] is suffering from vandalism and needs to be protected from the unregistered users because of the false information/gibberish into pages. There's no news about ceasing it's operation and it is proven to be false or just fake news. [[User:GlorysiaMelodyYT|GlorysiaMelodyYT]] ([[User talk:GlorysiaMelodyYT|talk]]) 10:16, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

:Oh yeah, don't forget about [[8FM]], it is also suffered from vandalism before I undo it. [[User:GlorysiaMelodyYT|GlorysiaMelodyYT]] ([[User talk:GlorysiaMelodyYT|talk]]) 10:19, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
::Third one: [[List of programmes broadcast by 8TV (Malaysian TV network)]] were also got hit, I trying to stop the vandalism but the unregistered users won't stop spreading fake news. [[User:GlorysiaMelodyYT|GlorysiaMelodyYT]] ([[User talk:GlorysiaMelodyYT|talk]]) 10:30, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
:::@[[User:GlorysiaMelodyYT|GlorysiaMelodyYT]] Hello, to request a page be protected please post at [[Wikipedia:Requests for page protection]]. Best regards, — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:14, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

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== [[User talk:UBX/Text formatting|"Admins can do CSS"]] ==

What do you mean by that? As far as I can tell only interface admins have the right to implement my request because it requires editing CSS in someone else ("User:UBX")'s userspace, which uses the <code>editusercss</code> right, which per [[Special:ListGroupRights]] only iadmins have. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 16:44, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

:@[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] yes, the target of that probably should have been the userpage, not the template - it was showing up on the wrong report, looks like the entire thing has been speedily deleted now though so nothing to do. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

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== 2FA security key ==

Hi - do you think this would be useful for my Google authenticator? Just in case? Don't want to loose access![https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yubico-Security-USB-Factor-Authentication-Blue/dp/B07M8YBWQZ/ref=d_pd_sbs_sccl_4_2/262-1376425-2726907?pd_rd_w=zN6qw&content-id=amzn1.sym.e915a13f-380a-44c0-b87a-2bc42d7457b9&pf_rd_p=e915a13f-380a-44c0-b87a-2bc42d7457b9&pf_rd_r=90YM2RQ09N2QS2RNSW9A&pd_rd_wg=ZX7WC&pd_rd_r=10c36cbc-da30-4313-993d-8c6d94caea6c&pd_rd_i=B07M8YBWQZ&th=1]
Thanks. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 15:55, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
: I have two [[Yubikey]] 5's I use. -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] ([[User talk:Avraham|talk]]) 16:11, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
::@[[User:Avraham|Avraham]] any idea what the difference is between the cheaper one that I linked and the one that you have? Thanks [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 16:30, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
::: See [https://www.reddit.com/r/yubikey/comments/adzfqb/yubco_security_key_nfc_vs_yubikey_5_nfc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/yubikey/comments/adzfqb/yubco_security_key_nfc_vs_yubikey_5_nfc/]. The 5 has more methods. You could put GPG keys on it, for example. Or you could use the YubiAuth App with the key for TOTP (like Authy or Google Authenticator). -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] ([[User talk:Avraham|talk]]) 11:38, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
:@[[User:Doug Weller|Doug Weller]] I don't recommend it here. From what I see that would mean you'd convert your 2FA from TOTP to WebAuthn; WMF has even less support for WebAuthn than for it's almost non-existent TOTP support system. There is currently no self-service recovery for WebAuthn failures. I use TOTP, and set it up on 2 devices, that way if one device fails I still have it on the other. The easiest way to do this is to register them both at the same time (turn off TOTP and set it up again). Additionally, ensuring that you safely store your scratch codes for TOTP is important. If your authentication device fails it can take up to 2 scratch codes to turn off 2FA until you can re-enroll. I have used some of the hardware keys with other systems, but they are ones where I register my real-world identity to them and have various built-in recovery mechanisms. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:07, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
::I have two keys that I use for my FIDO2, including Wikipedia, and they work fine. But I have two in case I lose one. That's the downside of the increased security of a physical device: no virtual back door. I consider that a feature, not a bug. -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] ([[User talk:Avraham|talk]]) 11:40, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks. I have my codes. It’s on my android phone so unless that dies before I replace it I can transfer it to a new phone. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 17:10, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Doug Weller|Doug Weller]] if you have a secure computer, you could also install a software TOTP client. It won't help in the "your computer was taken over" type of attack, but still provides multifactor security from external cracking. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:13, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
::::good idea I can add Google Authenticatior to Chrome.. Thanks. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 17:19, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

== 2FA - 2 devices, 2 different OSs ==

Hello, Xaosflux! I wanted to write a question [[:Help talk:Two-factor authentication|here]] but I got a notice saying it didn't get many watchers so I thought about asking you personally given that you had answered quite some questions there. (The question above me is also about 2FA. Strange coincidence...)<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>I use a PC and a laptop to edit Wikipedia. The PC uses Windows and the laptop is on Linux. I want to activate the 2 factor authorization but I'm not sure as to what would be the best way to act on this case. Do I really have to get 2 different groups of scratch codes by 2 different programs? Is there "a better way"? Sorry if I'm not clear. I'm a bit confused by the whole 2FA thing.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1671713036192:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:43, 22 December 2022 (UTC)</span>
:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] 2FA isn't related to the devices that you use to log on. 2FA (sticking to the TOTP model here) requires an authenticator, which is software that can take an initial secret seed, the time of day, and output a short-lived code. Most people that use our TOTP use a smartphone app as their authenticator. When you activate 2FA it will give you your initial registration seed, at that point you can use that seed to register multiple authentication devices (I use a software application on a trusted computer, and a software application on a smartphone). You shouldn't store that seed as it could be used to impersonate you. During registration you will get a set of scratch codes. These are attached to your account, not to your authenticator or any computer you log on to. They should be used only in the even of a broken authenticator, and only to unenroll from 2FA until you can set it up again. Does that answer your questions? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:06, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
::To be 100% clear, you can never have "2 different groups of scratch codes"; the only way to get scratch codes is to activate 2FA, and the only way to get another set is to deactivate it (invalidating the old scratch codes) and reactivate it. There is not currently support to register multiple TOTP instances with different seeds and scratches. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:10, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
:::{{Tq|1=During registration you will get a set of scratch codes. ''These are attached to your account, not to your authenticator or any computer you log on to.''}}<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Aha! Okay then. That was my dilemma. Thank you! :))<span id="Klein_Muçi:1671724905475:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 16:01, 22 December 2022 (UTC)</span>

== Seasons Greetings ==

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==Merry Christmas!==

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{{font|text=''Hello, Xaosflux! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a [[Merry Christmas]] and a [[Happy New Year]]!''|font=Times New Roman|size=19px}}<br />[[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 19:15, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
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== Happy New Year, Xaosflux! ==
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'''Xaosflux''',<br />Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable [[New Year]], and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
<br />[[User:Abishe|Abishe]] ([[User talk:Abishe|talk]]) 21:50, 31 December 2022 (UTC)<br /><br />
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==Happy New Year!==
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;">'''<u>Xaosflux</u>,'''<br>'''Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a [[Happy New Year]] to you and yours!'''</span> <!--Template:Happy New Year-->[[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 22:14, 31 December 2022 (UTC)</div>
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:– <small>Send New Year cheer by adding {{tls|Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.</small>
[[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 22:14, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

== Inactivity criterion 2 desysop notifications ==

Hi xaosflux. It would be best to use {{tl|inactive admin 2}} instead of {{tl|inactive admin}}. —&thinsp;[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]]&thinsp;<small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 02:13, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]] thanks, good thing I'm doing these in batches! — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 02:17, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==


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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | You deserve this barnstar because of your hard work at [[Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023]]. Great work! [[User:Sarrail|<span style="color: aqua">'''Sarrail'''</span>]] [[User talk:Sarrail|(talk)]] 03:31, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
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'''Xaosflux''',<br />Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable [[New Year]], and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
<br />[[User:Sarrail|<span style="color: aqua">'''Sarrail'''</span>]] [[User talk:Sarrail|(talk)]] 03:34, 1 January 2023 (UTC)<br /><br />
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== Precious anniversary ==
== ''The Signpost'': 1 January 2023 ==
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--[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 08:02, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
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'''Xaosflux''',<br />Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable [[New Year]], and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
<br /><span style="color: blue">—</span> [[User:Moops|<span style="color: green ">Moops</span>]] <sup><span style="font-size:80%">⋠[[User talk:Moops|<span style="color: indigo">'''T'''</span>]]⋡</span></sup> 17:07, 2 January 2023 (UTC)<br /><br />
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== Suspension of my administrative permissions ==

Thank you for notifying me on my user talk page that my admin permissions have been suspended due to inactivity. Sadly, I have been too busy with other projects to do much Wikipedia editing in recent years. I still think Wikipedia is a great resource and a shining example of volunteer collaboration. Best wishes and Happy New Year.

--Sheldon Rampton [[User:Sheldon Rampton|Sheldon Rampton]] ([[User talk:Sheldon Rampton|talk]]) 19:42, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

== Administrators' newsletter – January 2023 ==

[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (December 2022).

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|[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Extraordinary Writ|Extraordinary Writ]]
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1126174243#Resysop request (Stephen)|Stephen]]
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|[[Special:PermanentLink/1124879890#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2022#December 2022|Andrew Yong]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1124879890#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2022#December 2022|Dbenbenn]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1124879890#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2022#December 2022|DESiegel]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1124965336#Removal of admin permissions (GlassCobra)|GlassCobra]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1126715472#Resignation of administrative privs|Joe Decker]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1124925762#Suspension of admin privs - Nancy|Nancy]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1124894056#Removal of admin permissions (Pathoschild)|Pathoschild]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1125435591#Request removal of Admin permissions for StuffOfInterest|StuffOfInterest]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1130368896#Please remove my admin rights (William Pietri)|William Pietri]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1128518473#Resigning adminship (Wwwwolf)|Wwwwolf]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1124879890#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2022#December 2022|Xdamr]]
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== Tech News: 2023-42 ==
[[File:Wikipedia Interface administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Interface administrator changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:Permalink/1130211469#Inactive interface administrators 2022-12-28|Nihiltres]]
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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2023/42|Translations]] are available.


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'''Recent changes'''
* The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Unified login|Unified login]] system's edge login should now be fixed for some browsers (Chrome, Edge, Opera). This means that if you visit a new sister project wiki, you should be logged in automatically without the need to click "Log in" or reload the page. Feedback on whether it's working for you is welcome. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T347889]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1128960189#2023 Arbitration Committee|Moneytrees]]
* [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Interface/Edit_notice|Edit notices]] are now available within the MobileFrontend/Minerva skin. This feature was inspired by [[w:en:Wikipedia:EditNoticesOnMobile|the gadget on English Wikipedia]]. See more details in [[phab:T316178|T316178]].


'''Changes later this week'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] {{hlist|class=inline
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.1|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-17|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-18|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-19|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1129340349#Change to the Checkuser team|Ivanvector]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1128960189#2023 Arbitration Committee|SilkTork]]
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'''Future changes'''
* In 3 weeks, in the Vector 2022 skin, code related to <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>addPortletLink</nowiki></code></bdi> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>#p-namespaces</nowiki></code></bdi> that was deprecated one year ago will be removed. If you notice tools that should appear next to the "Discussion" tab are then missing, please tell the gadget's maintainers to see [[phab:T347907|instructions in the Phabricator task]].
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] {{hlist|class=inline
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*[[WP:CSD|Speedy deletion criterion]] [[WP:A5|A5]] (transwikied articles) has been repealed following an [[Special:Permalink/1130280550#A5. Transwikied articles - Wiktionary|unopposed proposal]].


== ''The Signpost'': 23 October 2023 ==
[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
* Following the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2022#Results|2022 Arbitration Committee elections]], the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: {{Noping|Barkeep49}}, {{Noping|CaptainEek}}, {{Noping|GeneralNotability}}, {{Noping|Guerillero}}, {{Noping|L235}}, {{Noping|Moneytrees}}, {{Noping|Primefac}}, {{Noping|SilkTork}}.
* The [[WP:CT2022|2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review]] has [[Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard#Contentious_topics_procedure_adopted|concluded]] with many changes to the [[WP:AC/DS|discretionary sanctions]] procedure including a change of the name to "contentious topics". The changes are being implemented over the coming month.
* The arbitration case ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Stephen|Stephen]]'' has been closed.


<div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-10-23}} </div><!--Volume 19, Issue 20--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * '''[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost|Read this Signpost in full]]''' * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2023-10-23|Single-page]] * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe|Unsubscribe]] * [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 07:02, 23 October 2023 (UTC) <!-- Sent via script ([[User:Evad37/SPS]]) --></div></div>
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* '''Tech tip''': You can view information about IP addresses in a centralised location using [https://bullseye.toolforge.org/ bullseye] which won the Newcomer award in the recent [[:m:Coolest Tool Award|Coolest Tool Awards]].
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== Tech News: 2023-43 ==
==Bureaucrat chat - invitation to participate==
The [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/MB|RfA for MB]] has gone to a bureaucrat chat. Please [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/MB/Bureaucrat chat|join in the discussion]]. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 15:02, 8 January 2023 (UTC)


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== Re: License & wiki footer ==
Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2023/43|Translations]] are available.

Just a ping that I answered you at: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License&diff=1132579220&oldid=1132570362&diffmode=source although commenting on your discussion because we probably should move the discussion somewhere more centralized -so others can participate, too-, either on wiki or [[phab:T317169|on Phabricator]]. :-) I pinged legal already and I am waiting for their advice, too on how flexible we can be. Regards, and thank you for answering! --[[User:JCrespo (WMF)|JCrespo (WMF)]] ([[User talk:JCrespo (WMF)|talk]]) 15:17, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:JCrespo (WMF)|JCrespo (WMF)]] thanks; are there ''other'' wikitext pages that are being monitored that may also need to be dealt with similarly? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:20, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
::Let me check the code and will get back to you. --[[User:JCrespo (WMF)|JCrespo (WMF)]] ([[User talk:JCrespo (WMF)|talk]]) 15:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
::As far as Mediawiki-content controlled pages for enwiki, I found only 2: <code>check_legal_html!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page</code> and <code>check_legal_html!https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page</code>, and then wikibooks, aside. Only contents in [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyright]] are checked(and the main page redirect should not be moved without also updating that code)- but after rendering into the Main page. We should wait for legal to answer first, maybe the check is not needed anymore in the current form. Or maybe we could change the alert to just check the links exist and that would give you more flexibility, rather than forcing you to notify us every time. --[[User:JCrespo (WMF)|JCrespo (WMF)]] ([[User talk:JCrespo (WMF)|talk]]) 15:38, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:JCrespo (WMF)|JCrespo (WMF)]] thanks, this seems somewhat useless if [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyright]] being the same is enough, as it links to the actual license external from that page! (Either a local copy such as we have at [[Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License]] - and could just edit. Or completely outside of our control such as when it links to [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/] and could be changed or corrupted there. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:43, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
::::I don't necessarily always understand the lawyer's requests, but I am sure to follow their advice to avoid legal problems. :-) My guess is that at some point in the past, the footer disappeared due to a software bug/html rendering issue and that could have had legal consequences for us. I believe things like the license and the privacy policy are important enough to merit alerting over not having them! I don't know the details- what I know is that we (system administrators) get an alert when the footer is edited and want to make that better for us, in the most reasonable manner possible! Our lawyers understand the wiki, and they will know the best way to keep things editable while minimizing risk, I have no doubt- this is not about closing up things! --[[User:JCrespo (WMF)|JCrespo (WMF)]] ([[User talk:JCrespo (WMF)|talk]]) 15:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
::::In any case, removing the alerts is one of the possible outcomes indeed, in which case you wouldn't be affected at all. --[[User:JCrespo (WMF)|JCrespo (WMF)]] ([[User talk:JCrespo (WMF)|talk]]) 16:01, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
:::::I gave you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License&diff=1133197853&oldid=1132579645&diffmode=source a personal thank you], in addition to mentioning it publicly on the ticket, for your role giving feedback on how to improve this particular legal check. Regards. --[[User:JCrespo (WMF)|JCrespo (WMF)]] ([[User talk:JCrespo (WMF)|talk]]) 17:26, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

== Tech News: 2023-02 ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2023/02|Translations]] are available.


'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* There is a new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Language engineering/Newsletter/2023/October|Language and internationalization newsletter]], written quarterly. It contains updates on new feature development, improvements in various language-related technical projects, and related support work.
* You can use tags to filter edits in the recent changes feed or on your watchlist. You can now use tags to filter out edits you don't want to see. Previously you could only use tags to focus on the edits with those tags. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174349]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] Source map support has been enabled on all wikis. When you open the debugger in your browser's developer tools, you should be able to see the unminified JavaScript source code. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T47514]
* [[Special:WhatLinksHere|Special:WhatLinksHere]] shows all pages that link to a specific page. There is now a [https://wlh.toolforge.org prototype] for how to sort those pages alphabetically. You can see the discussion in the [[phab:T4306|Phabricator ticket]].
* You can now use the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Thanks|thanks]] function on your watchlist and the user contribution page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51541]
* A wiki page can be moved to give it a new name. You can now get a dropdown menu with common reasons when you move a page. This is so you don't have to write the explanation every time. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325257]
* [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Matrix.org|Matrix]] is a chat tool. You can now use <code>matrix:</code> to create Matrix links on wiki pages. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T326021]
* You can filter out translations when you look at the recent changes on multilingual wikis. This didn't hide translation pages. You can now also hide subpages which are translation pages. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T233493]


'''Changes later this week'''
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:In [[Special:Redirect/logid/1738597|2006]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:06, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
* The Structured Content team, as part of its project of [[:commons:Commons:WMF support for Commons/Upload Wizard Improvements|improving UploadWizard on Commons]], made some UX improvements to the upload step of choosing own vs not own work ([[phab:T347590|T347590]]), as well as to the licensing step for own work ([[phab:T347756|T347756]]).

* The Design Systems team has released version 1.0.0 of [[wmdoc:codex/latest/|Codex]], the new design system for Wikimedia. See the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Design_Systems_Team/Announcing_Codex_1.0|full announcement about the release of Codex 1.0.0]].
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== Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard Accidental revert ==

My apology for reverting your edit as it had nothing to do with your change. I was trying to select the "diff" link on a page in my watchlist and I accidentally clicked the "revert" link on your edit instead. I undid the revert as soon as I realized what I had done. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] ([[User talk:RedWolf|talk]]) 23:39, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

:No worries, accidents happen. Cheers! — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:40, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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'''Problems'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The URLs in "{{int:last}}" links on page history now contain <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>diff=prev&oldid=[revision ID]</nowiki></code></bdi> in place of <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>diff=[revision ID]&oldid=[revision ID]</nowiki></code></bdi>. This is to fix a problem with links pointing to incorrect diffs when history was filtered by a tag. Some user scripts may break as a result of this change. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243569]


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* Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a [[:w:en:International Components for Unicode|library]]. For a brief period on 2 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for many languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Technical Operations/ICU announcement|read more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T345561][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267145]
* Some [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability|changes to the appearance of talk pages]] have only been available on <code>{{ns:1}}:</code> and <code>{{ns:3}}:</code> namespaces. These will be extended to other talk namespaces, such as <code>{{ns:5}}:</code>. They will continue to be unavailable in non-talk namespaces, including <code>{{ns:4}}:</code> pages (e.g., at the Village Pump). You can [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion|change your preferences]] ([[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures|beta feature]]). [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325417]
* Starting November 1, the impact module (Special:Impact) will be upgraded by the Growth team. The new impact module shows newcomers more data regarding their impact on the wiki. It was tested by a few wikis during the last few months. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T336203]
*On Wikisources, when an image is zoomed or panned in the Page: namespace, the same zoom and pan settings will be remembered for all Page: namespace pages that are linked to a particular Index: namespace page. [https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage/+/868841]
* The Vector 2022 skin will become the default for the English Wikipedia desktop users. The change will take place on January 18 at 15:00 UTC. [[:en:w:Wikipedia:Vector 2022|Learn more]].


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* The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Community_configuration_2.0|edit MediaWiki configuration directly]]. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. [[phab:T349757|A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.]]


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== [[mediawiki:Newpages-summary]] ==
== The best dude 2023 ==


Hi Xaosflux, thanks for protecting and editing my fork of the Page Curation script. I noticed that you had edited the MediaWiki page to include the script, but I think you might have substituted the wrong link. The fork is of [[User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js|this script]] which is linked in the sentence "A user script for accessing the Page Curation tool is also available". Could you link it there instead please? All the best and thanks for your IntAdmin work. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Schminnte|'''Schminnte''']]</span> <sup>&#91;[[User talk:Schminnte|''talk to me'']]&#93;</sup> 19:15, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
I don't believe you actually processed the unblock for {{np|The best dude 2023}}. :) -- [[User:Yamla|Yamla]] ([[User talk:Yamla|talk]]) 16:15, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


:@[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] if I didn't make the block, I wouldn't have, and I don't have high hopes but figured a little [[WP:ROPE]] will tell. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:17, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Schminnte|Schminnte]] hi there, sorry if I got the wrong link somewhere and I'll certainly work to fix it. I'm not exactly what needs to be changed though, could you clarify? Which page needs to be edited, and which text should be changed to which new text? Best regards, — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:24, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
::Certainly :)
::Sorry, I meant I believe that user is still blocked. You are of course welcome to lift the block, I just think you haven't done that yet. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] ([[User talk:Yamla|talk]]) 16:18, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
::* The page that needs to be edited is [[MediaWiki:Newpages-summary]],
:::@[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] oooooooo, thanks for that - done. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:20, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
::* The line at the bottom ({{TQ|An alternative [[User:Schminnte/PageCuration|script]] is available for the same.}}) should be reverted back to {{TQ|An alternative [[User:Lourdes/SpecialNewPages|script]] is available for the same.}} as this is a different script from the one in forking,
::::Fingers crossed this person justifies your good faith in them. Have a great day! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] ([[User talk:Yamla|talk]]) 16:21, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
::*The link in the fmbox ({{TQ|A [[Wikipedia:PageCuration script|user script]] for accessing the Page Curation tool is also available.}}) should either be changed to link to [[User:Schminnte/PageCuration]], or the redirect should be re-targeted to that page.
:I had meant to, but collided with my rename. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:21, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks again, <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Schminnte|'''Schminnte''']]</span> <sup>&#91;[[User talk:Schminnte|''talk to me'']]&#93;</sup> 19:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Schminnte|Schminnte]] thank you!
:::#I reverted my change
:::#I changed [[Wikipedia:PageCuration script]] to point to [[User:Schminnte/PageCuration]]
:::# (unrelated) I deleted <code><nowiki>An alternative [[User:Lourdes/SpecialNewPages|script]] is available for the same.</nowiki></code> all together, as that script is unmaintained now.
::::Miss anything? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:41, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
::::Don't think so, thanks for everything! <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Schminnte|'''Schminnte''']]</span> <sup>&#91;[[User talk:Schminnte|''talk to me'']]&#93;</sup> 20:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC)


== Not so weird flex ==
== Help ==


Hello!
Hello, Xaosflux! I find myself in need of your technical advice. I was updating the SqWiki main page some days ago when I noticed that it doesn't render nice on mobile. Then I tried seeing what happened with EnWiki (I'm not an avid mobile wikiuser myself so I hadn't concentrated on such details before) and there I saw that the whole page layout changed, its "blocks" being rearranged in a very optimized column manner. Trying to replicate the same effect, I was searching around the source code to see what made this happen and eventually I learned about the existence of flexing in CSS. Given that I just learned about it I haven't been able to achieve much yet. Can you help me make SqWiki's main page behave in a similar manner as EnWiki's does in regard to that? - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 07:21, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] sorry, I don't have the cycles to work on that right now. You can try asking for a volunteer over at [[WP:VPT]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:30, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
::It's okay. Apparently the problem is far more complex than just using Display:Flex as I was hoping when I wrote that. Experimented a bit around. Maybe it should wait a bit.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1674135180560:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 13:33, 19 January 2023 (UTC)</span>


Any idea what could be going wrong in [[sq:Stampa:Artikulli i javës|here]]? It shows a file broken link but not sure where that is coming from. I've spent like 6 hours checking everything but still have no clue. - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 22:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
== all images on wikipedia do not work ==
:Better now? I null edited the dependent templates to force them to recalculate. Way too much dynamic loading going on in my opinion. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 22:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
::Ah... So nothing was wrong per se... Thank you!<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Yeah... I know what you mean. I've tried making things as easy/automatic as I've can. Everything comes with a drawback. If things get heavy I'll start changing them back. Thank you again! {{Smiley|:-)}}<span id="Klein_Muçi:1699053450714:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt">—&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 23:17, 3 November 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::Can you please take a look at the link above again and our main page and tell me what is going on with the border and padding? Is this a still a problem arising from the aforementioned dynamic loading? Is the specific chosen photo problematic? It's been 2 days now trying to solve it, ever since you fixed the problem with the broken link, but nothing seems to work. <br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>This is the CSS page: [[sq:Stampa:Artikulli i javës/styles.css|Link]]<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>The photo is supposed to have an inline border and align with the text body with a small padding in-between.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1699184953898:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 11:49, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</span>
::::I'm not exactly sure and don't have time to delve in to all of it. First thing to check, it looks like some of that image is getting styles with multiple template style loads on the template, but only one of those is on the main page (is what you are missing in: Stampa:Artikulli i javës/styles.css ?) — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 12:00, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::That works in unifying the looks but all sections have their own CSS page. Do they all need to be included in the Main Page? I thought it was enough to include it on the local template page and if you transcluded it, it would come with the associated styles as well. Am I wrong in that assumption?<span id="Klein_Muçi:1699186163835:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:09, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</span>
::::::Apparently with the other cases the inclusion doesn't make a difference but with that template it does. Hmm...<span id="Klein_Muçi:1699186363609:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:12, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::::::It looks like on the template, you have the templatestyles in the "noinclude" section, so they would not be used when the template is called. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 12:17, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Why would I do that... :'( You are right. That solved the problem. Now I just need to give them the correct styling I suppose. Thank you very much!<span id="Klein_Muçi:1699187047295:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:24, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</span>


== Request ==
Hi for some all images on wikipedia do not work please help me fix it
thank you [[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] ([[User talk:The best dude 2023|talk]]) 16:19, 19 January 2023 (UTC)


I've started a revamp of [[Wikipedia:Tools/Optimum tool set]].
:@[[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] what happens if you try to load an image directly, such as [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Pacific_oyster_from_Brofjorden_on_a_chopping_board_in_Tuntorp.jpg by this link]? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:47, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
::It will not load at all... [[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] ([[User talk:The best dude 2023|talk]]) 14:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
:::Not sure, sounds like a problem on your client - possibly with an extension. Try another browser. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
::::I use safari [[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] ([[User talk:The best dude 2023|talk]]) 15:37, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] yes, try another browser, ensure it is a current release, ensure your operating system has current TLS/SSL support. Nothing else I can really do for you from here; you can try asking over at [[:commons:Commons:Village pump/Technical]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:40, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
::::::It loaded but it says Restricted Site [[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] ([[User talk:The best dude 2023|talk]]) 15:52, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
:::::::No idea, sounds like something on your network in your browser; if you can verify that the "restricted site" message is coming '''from''' a WMF server (not just something your browser generated) you can open a bug report [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/43/ here]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
::::::::I do work for a organization so maybe they blocked it [[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] ([[User talk:The best dude 2023|talk]]) 15:58, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::That happens, sometimes it isn't a direct block, but an extension that is blocking it too - if you don't control your network and computer you should start by contacting your org helpdesk. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:32, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::Ok thank you for your help [[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] ([[User talk:The best dude 2023|talk]]) 19:14, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Sorry for wasting your time. [[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] ([[User talk:The best dude 2023|talk]]) 16:10, 20 January 2023 (UTC)


Please take a look and let me know if there are any essential techniques or must have tools that you think should be included.
== Account hacked ==


Thank you.
Hi I am reporting a hacked account [[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] ([[User talk:The best dude 2023|talk]]) 15:17, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
:Are you saying your account was hacked? Please review [[WP:COMPROMISED]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] ([[User talk:Yamla|talk]]) 15:21, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
::No my friend got hacked [[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] ([[User talk:The best dude 2023|talk]]) 15:23, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
:::Please provide the account name and evidence of this so we can block the compromised account. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] ([[User talk:Yamla|talk]]) 15:25, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
::::And do so at [[WP:ANI]], not here. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:31, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
:::::Sorry but the account name is Dummy boy 2.0
:::::and here is evidence "Ha ha ha i hacked this account no one can stop now lol lol lol" [[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] ([[User talk:The best dude 2023|talk]]) 15:35, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] see above, post this at [[WP:ANI]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:38, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Ok i did it sorry [[User:The best dude 2023|The best dude 2023]] ([[User talk:The best dude 2023|talk]]) 15:46, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
::::::::OP blocked as a vandal sock. ― [[User:Blaze Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze&nbsp;Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze&nbsp;Wolf#6545</sub> 17:28, 23 January 2023 (UTC)


Sincerely, <span class="nowrap">&nbsp;&nbsp; &mdash; ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|The&nbsp;Transhumanist]]''&nbsp;&nbsp; </span> 06:40, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
== Tech News: 2023-04 ==


== Watchlist messages ==
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So, rather than go ahead and kill even more electrons on [[MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-messages]] with the clearly-excessive 37-step repro I have written up,<sup>&dagger;</sup> is there ''any'' way I can convince you to just turn on the gadget (if you have it off), reload your watchlist, and type <code>mw.storage.get('hidewatchlistmessages')</code> into a console? Not getting 596 in the results anymore despite having dismissed the RFA message is 95% of the proof, and I suppose I could demonstrate the rest over on testwiki if it's kosher to hand out interface-admin there. —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] 00:38, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
'''Problems'''
::<sup>&dagger;</sup>{{small|Too many of the steps started to look like}}
* Last week, for ~15 minutes, all wikis were unreachable for logged-in users and non-cached pages. This was caused by a timing issue. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incidents/2023-01-17_MediaWiki]
::*{{small|"click on 'skip this survey' and dismiss the popup and all the other not-very-welcoming stuff we inflict on new users", and}}
::*{{small|"stop to chat with the userspace police, who've [[User talk:Very obvious temporary account|shown up on your usertalk to complain]] that the account name you picked is illegal despite you only existing for half an hour, you've never made an edit, and [[WP:USERNAME]] says nothing of the sort", and especially}}
::*{{small|"you might want to stop now, unless you want to find out what happens when the zero-edit account you've just granted extended-confirmed with your admin goes ahead and disrupts RFA ''and'' everybody's watchlist to prove this point".}}
:Regarding that test, same result before and after disabling the notice:
:<syntaxhighlight lang=js>
:>mw.storage.get('hidewatchlistmessages')
:<null</syntaxhighlight>
:However I have no recollection of what I may or may not have recently dismissed. It does sound like the 'empty the storage' may be running when it shouldn't, and I pinged in the last script developer who had requested changes to the conversation on the wl talk page. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:01, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::There's a fallback in the gadget js, <code>mw.storage.session.get('hidewatchlistmessages')</code>, that's used if mw.storage.get(...) fails. I had thought it was intended for old versions of MediaWiki, or perhaps minority or mobile browsers - both of the ones I tested with use mw.storage; I didn't try on mobile - but [https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/js/#!/api/mw.storage.session it's documented to last only the lifetime of the open browser tab]. Try that?{{pb}}Anyway, the gadget is mostly doing what it says it should do: it removes old cookie-ids that are no longer referenced. (It fails to do that if there are no hidden or hideable messages at all, so it forever stores the last one to expire, maybe intentionally, maybe not; in practice, there's always another watchlist message between RFAs.) The problem is the way we've been abusing it with the RFA message, which removes itself entirely - not just makes itself invisible - when there are no RFAs, and updates itself immediately when the number of RFAs changes. Even ''if'' nobody looks at their watchlist or is irritated enough to complain about it between when a new RFA starts and when the cookie is manually updated, it's still going to say "there are 2 rfas open" as soon as a second one opens to people who haven't dismissed the message yet, no matter that we wait a half a day to bump the number on [[Mediawiki:Watchlist-messages]] a second time. —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] 15:50, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Seems like the fix needs to be to not purge the old values, waiting for the response from the last script writer that I expect is related to that. As far as the edge case of:
:::# There is a visible RFA that has a new cookie
:::# You don't dismiss it
:::# A second simultaneous RFA opens saying "there are n RFA's"
:::# You dismiss it during the window before its cookie gets incremented by an admin
:::# The RFA cookie gets incremented
:::# The WLN shows
::::I don't think that alone is going to get solved while being able to maintain some of the automation; but it is quite a small edge case.
:::— [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:15, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::::I wasn't particularly concerned about this case, no, other than that some of the options for dealing with my complaint would also fix that. We're not really saving much effort from the automation anyway since we're still manually updating the cookie numbers. I'd be happy to take over maintenance of the rfa messages if we went to an more-manual method, btw, so this isn't entirely a "This doesn't working exactly how I want! You, over there, do more unpaid labor for me!" complaint.{{pb}}[https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/js/#!/api/mw.storage Documentation for mw.storage] warns that the space is limited - albeit in the context of old keys, I don't know if it also applies to their values - so I don't know whether leaving all the values in there forever is wise. Not a webdev. —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] 16:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::Agree, also think there is something else going on here - I still haven't been able to replicate the actual problem even if I can replicate some of the signals. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:44, 6 November 2023 (UTC)


== ''The Signpost'': 6 November 2023 ==
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If you use <nowiki>{{Special:NewPages|namespace=0|limit=1}}</nowiki> you get this result:
== OMG ==
{{Special:NewPages|namespace=0|limit=1}}


If you inspect its classes you'll see that the talk and contribute links are inside a single class called "mw-usertoollinks" but article history and edit are not. The parentheses, space and pipe characters are plain text, outside of the classes themselves. Therefore, if you decide to hide them, like I tried [[sq:Stampa:Artikuj të rinj|here]], you'll get left with those characters with no way to target them (JS aside). Is this considered a bug? Can I talk with someone for this to be changed? I can of course just open a phab ticket but not sure how to report the problem in a clear way without using live examples like I did here. - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:55, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
You are the [[Nut hand|man]]. (ref this [[Special:Diff/1135488182]]) Thank you very much, for everything you do and thank you very much for the things you've helped me with. {{smiley}} - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 00:21, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
:Just saying :P - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 00:23, 25 January 2023 (UTC)


:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] this does not appear to be a bug, just something that doesn't exist. It appears to be the mediawiki default behavior as well. You can open a [[WP:BUG|feature request]] at phabricator. Leave out anything superfluous (such as "if you use x in a transclusion" - as this happens on the native output as well). Your request would be something like
== Reply as opposed to Edit ==
:*Story: I want to be able to target the group of page tool links on Special:NewPages with css to style them differently.
:**Then as a comment, perhaps a suggestion to "add a span element with a unique class to the output of Special:NewPages between the '.a with class mw-newpages-pagename' and '.span with class mw-newpages-length'".
:— [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)


== Tech News: 2023-45 ==
In other words, Reply works properly, but Edit is totally screwed up. [[User:Milkunderwood|Milkunderwood]] ([[User talk:Milkunderwood|talk]]) 02:39, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[<nowiki/>[[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)|reply]]]


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: When you go to that preferences page, which skin is currently selected? — [[User:Xaosflux|'''xaosflux''']] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|Talk]]</sup> 12:43, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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'''Recent changes'''
:: Frankly, I don't know -- I just accepted all the defaults. I use WP just to look up information, and edit only to the extent of making small corrections to obvious spelling or grammatical problems. I've never bothered to figure out the jargon here, such as "skins". In the meantime, Edit seems to work more or less properly, except when it doesn't, jumping to top of page instead of to the correct Section.
* In the Vector 2022 skin, the default font-size of a number of navigational elements (tagline, tools menu, navigational links, and more) has been increased slightly to match the font size used in page content. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T346062]
::(This is a copy/paste from our original discussion, to your talkpage. I very much appreciate your help and interest, but I'm another distressed user who wishes that far better than "good enough" had been left alone. If there were a way for users to choose the look and feel of WP as it used to be, I'd definitely be there instead.) [[User:Milkunderwood|Milkunderwood]] ([[User talk:Milkunderwood|talk]]) 10:04, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
:::Oh, and also, both times I've gone to Preferences, the Save button has been grayed out. [[User:Milkunderwood|Milkunderwood]] ([[User talk:Milkunderwood|talk]]) 10:09, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
::::The save button will always be greyed out until you make a change. I asked you to go there and look so I could try to guide you, but you never answered. If you want to reset '''all''' your options to the current default, you can go to these two pages and confirm: [[Special:Preferences/reset]] / [[Special:GlobalPreferences/reset]]. Note, there is no way to "undo" a preference reset. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:16, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
:::::You may first want to actually check that Skin setting. It is right at the top of the page here: [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering]], it says "Skin" and only one can be selected at a time. The new default is "Vector (2022)", the older default that you may want to try is "Vector legacy (2010)". — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:18, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
::::::Hey, it works! Thank you! I never understood what all that gobbledygook was, other than giving me a headache. (If I didn't reply, I don't live on WP, but just visit when I need to. Most questions I might ask are never responded to.) [[User:Milkunderwood|Milkunderwood]] ([[User talk:Milkunderwood|talk]]) 16:15, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Good to hear you are fixed! — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:48, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, I am so happy now! Thank you again! [[User:Milkunderwood|Milkunderwood]] ([[User talk:Milkunderwood|talk]]) 00:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

== [[WP:CBAN]] ==

Hi, there's a community ban discussion going on at [[WP:AN#User:Doug Coldwell]]. Just before the votes, it says:
:Per WP:CBAN, "discussions may be organized via a template to distinguish comments by involved and uninvolved editors". Please declare prior involvement and post in the "Involved" section only if you were previously involved.
I looked at the policy and saw no guidance on what makes an editor "involved". I was hoping you might know how this works, in practice if not policy. Also, how does an "involved" editor's vote compare to an "uninvolved" editor's vote when the discussion is closed? The whole thing seems pretty odd to me, but I don't generally vote - or even pay that much attention to - these discussions. Thanks.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 16:32, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] creating such a section doesn't appear to be required by policy, in general declaring involvement is beneficial so this may just make it easier. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:53, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
::Beneficial to whom? Other editors? The closer? I still don't get it, but it's not important, thanks for your reply.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 21:02, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] the purpose of the CBAN is to determine if the community should ban someone - so if someone is in a personal dispute with the subject they may still have something to contribute but could be biased, and the closer could take that in to consideration. It is likely a short way to help someone just call that out instead of starting threaded comments about the other participants possible involvements. I don't think it is used often like that. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 21:09, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

== Tech News: 2023-05 ==

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'''Problems'''
'''Problems'''
* Last week, for ~15 minutes, some users were unable to log in or edit pages. This was caused by a problem with session storage. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incidents/2023-01-24_sessionstore_quorum_issues]
* Last week, there was a problem displaying some recent edits on [https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=dblists/s5.dblist a few wikis], for 1-6 hours. The edits were saved but not immediately shown. This was due to a database problem. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T350443]


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* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.4|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-11-07|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-11-08|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-11-09|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* The Growth team will reassign newcomers from former mentors to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Structured mentor list|the currently active mentors]]. They have also changed the notification language to be more user-friendly. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T330071][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T327493]


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'''Why you are misusing your admin powers to take other admins blocking legacy forward? I had appreciated you by calling you a helpful admin. I praised you while talking to my friend user. You can ask to verify. My friend is not given adminship yet otherwise I wouldn't be facing these difficulty. Read above message and join me as soon as possible. Call your boss and take special permission to discuss with me you find less time for it. Apply a sick leave, accident leave or marriage leave, whatever reason doesn't matter false , give and free yourself for this. I am awaiting Mr/Ms/Mrs XOASFLUX. 📢'''[[Special:Contributions/2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309|2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309]] ([[User talk:2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309|talk]]) 22:30, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== Minor template space cleanup ==
:I'm sorry, you will need to be more specific, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A2409%3A4081%3AAC14%3ABD4E%3A0%3A0%3ACC4A%3A7309 that address] has never been blocked. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::'''What does Wikipedia want me do?'''[[Special:Contributions/2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309|2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309]] ([[User talk:2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309|talk]]) 00:53, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
::'''What does Wikipedia want me do? Why did you delete my content that I wrote yesterday night ? Why my mobile phone's more than 50 screenshots are having you proving you blocked me?''' [[Special:Contributions/2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309|2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309]] ([[User talk:2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309|talk]]) 00:59, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
::'''You better know who needs to be more specific, me or Wikipedia? I would suggest you not to assume who was what instead give my questions answer. Be honest. I don't care if you are going to murder me but do inform . I can lose myself to honest people. I neither can give nor take a second if you are a cheater/lier/dishonest/cruel/irresponsible/undiciplined. Egnore bad English not me I am more bad than it.'''[[Special:Contributions/2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309|2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309]] ([[User talk:2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309|talk]]) 01:12, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:::I have no idea what you are talking about. If you have a question about a block I made, see the list of them [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=block&user=Xaosflux&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist here], be specific as to exactly which block you are asking about. Note, I haven't blocked anyone here on the English Wikipedia in almost 2 months. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 02:29, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
::::Send your WhatsApp number lier. I'm sending you all photos. Instead of accepting what you did you are protecting yourself. I don't like this nature. I never hide if I do wrong. I don't care if people hate me. I am not a people pleaser. What specific?? Wikipedia needs to be specific, I don't. Mind it and eat your mind in regret. !! God sees all. I trust him. [[Special:Contributions/2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309|2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309]] ([[User talk:2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309|talk]]) 02:46, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
::'''Fight with me whole day. I challenge you for full time one to one combat. Later you can take all your gangs with you to counter me like Ganiac, Fr33man, Daniel, LS35 and many more with your entire brigade and I alon this side. I never forget name and face. I never forget what wrong I did to someone and what wrong someone did to me. Remember I am not who compromise or surrender without knowing the truth. I win or I lose I don't care but I do care what I am yet to know inspite of losing everything in attempts of knowing it. Do you have any idea how critial my situation was that became again a Suicidal state against I was already fighting a battle without medicine and doctor. I lost my students. I shut my classroom that I had started after lock down breakdown of almost 3 years. My half family members was in different hospitals. I was in Emergency of another hospital. Rest were permanent paitent of something already. Do you want proof? I can send all.I always worshipped knowledge and Wikipedia broke me like no other. I was about to hang this time for final successful result. Could it be worse?? 😭😭😭 Wikipedia blocked me in emails long ago. Who does this ?? No one today replies also except very few master pieces who says day's name if you ask them vegetable name !! How many emails for help which are not received yet ?? Any idea ??? I again gave Wikipedia money in toughest time. No confirmation no reply of anything. I am in war with thier email donor company Zendesk, you know? And many more, much more. You are admin but butcher in nature. Why this death plan wasn't in Wikipedia's work culture ?? I can bet thousands of innocent users would have killed themselves just because of this harrasment treat of Wikipedia. Remember not anyone is me. Why Wikipedia can't feel the pain, loneliness, guilt feel and hundreds of self harming acts of a victim in such case ?? Will Wikipedia give me students, books to write for thousands if school teachers and bear my all medical expenses?? Why this terror. Doesn't anyone from Wikipedia ever cry over sorrows??😭😭😭 My Wikipedia friend user is not allowed to reply me and I am told that user I am bad !! Already I don't have any friend in life. Where should I go then ?? Heaven or hell? Will Wikipedia buy poison for me to travel there?? Block me from commenting , it will be good for Wikipedia and you and every other admins in your gang. Not just book writing , classroom, government project I lost film writing work too. Who works in such Suicidal state ?? Others may be working but I can't. I am not a super man. I need positive and happy mind to perform anything. I would love to share each proofs what I'm telling about. 😭😭😭 [[Special:Contributions/2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309|2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309]] ([[User talk:2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309|talk]]) 02:39, 7 November 2023 (UTC)'''
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== Administrators' newsletter – November 2023 ==
Do you have plans for {{tl|Uw-ublock-nonsense/doc}}? It looks like the parent template uses shared documentation. If some random editor had created it, I would TFD it, but I figure that you either have plans for it or know how to use CSD G7. Thanks. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 17:24, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (October 2023).
:@[[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] deleted. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:55, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


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== Administrators' newsletter – February 2023 ==

[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (January 2023).

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[[File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Administrator changes'''
[[File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Administrator changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1135563899#Resysop request Gimmetrow|Gimmetrow]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/0xDeadbeef|0xDeadbeef]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{hlist|class=inline
:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1180981757#Resysop request (Tamzin)|Tamzin]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1178946582#Remove admin bit please (Dennis Brown)|Dennis Brown]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1135232320#Desysopping Bjelleklang|Bjelleklang]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1130801209#Voluntary desysop request (Bob the Wikipedian)|Bob the Wikipedian]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1134250050#Removal of Admin status (Leithp)|Leithp]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1134994151#Request desysop (WhisperToMe)|WhisperToMe]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1130829197#January 2023|100 inactive admins]]
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|[[Special:PermanentLink/1130563660#Outgoing members of the 2022 Arbitration Committee|BDD]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1182816986#Inactive interface administrators 2023-10-28|Ragesoss]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1130563660#Outgoing members of the 2022 Arbitration Committee|Bradv]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1182799651#Please_remove_interface_admin_(TheresNoTime)|TheresNoTime]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1130563660#Outgoing members of the 2022 Arbitration Committee|Donald Albury]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1130563660#Outgoing members of the 2022 Arbitration Committee|Maxim]]
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[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
*Following [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_178#Removing_blocks_made_with_the_summary_"Appeal_is_only_to_the_Arbitration_Committee"_from_the_Admin_Policy|an RfC]], the [[Wikipedia:Administrators#Special situations|administrator policy]] now requires that prior written consent be gained from the [[WP:AC|Arbitration Committee]] to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
*Following [[Special:Permalink/1131222469#Massive_off-wiki_campaign_aimed_at_disrupting_Wikipedia|a community discussion]], consensus has been found to impose the [[WP:ARBECR|extended-confirmed restriction]] over the topic areas of [[Wikipedia:General sanctions/Armenia and Azerbaijan|Armenia and Azerbaijan]] and [[Wikipedia:General sanctions/Kurds and Kurdistan|Kurds and Kurdistan]].


[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
* The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Community_configuration_2.0|edit MediaWiki configuration directly]]. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A [[phab:T349757|technical RfC is running]] until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
* The Vector 2022 skin has become the default for desktop users of the English Wikipedia.
* There is [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph/Plans#Roadmap|a proposed plan]] for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal [[mw:Extension_talk:Graph/Plans#c-PPelberg_(WMF)-20231020221600-Update:_20_October|is requested]].


[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
* Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023|in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections]].
*The arbitration case ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Armenia-Azerbaijan 3|Armenia-Azerbaijan 3]]'' has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
* {{noping|Xaosflux}}, {{noping|RoySmith}} and {{noping|Cyberpower678}} have been appointed to the [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023/Electoral Commission|Electoral Commission]] for the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023|2023 Arbitration Committee Elections]]. {{noping|BusterD}} is the reserve commissioner.
*In December, the [[WP:CTOP|contentious topics procedure]] was adopted which replaces the [[WP:OLDDS|former discretionary sanctions system]]. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial [[WP:CT2022/I|implementation period]]. There is [[WP:DSVSCT|a detailed summary]] of the changes and [[Wikipedia:Contentious topics/Administrator instructions|administrator instructions]] for the new procedure. The arbitration clerk team are taking suggestions, concerns, and unresolved questions about this new system at [[WT:AC/C|their noticeboard]].
* Following [[Special:PermanentLink/1179537633#Arbitration motion regarding the Prem Rawat case|a motion]], the contentious topic designation of ''Prem Rawat'' has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
* Following [[Special:PermanentLink/1180835750#Arbitration motion regarding Unused Contentious Topics|several motions]], multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the ''Editor conduct in e-cigs articles'', ''Liancourt Rocks'', ''Longevity'', ''Medicine'', ''September 11 conspiracy theories'', and ''Shakespeare authorship question'' cases.
* Following [[Special:PermanentLink/1180835750#Arbitration motion regarding Unused Contentious Topics|a motion]], remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the ''Macedonia 2'' case have been rescinded.
* Following [[Special:PermanentLink/1180835750#Arbitration motion regarding Unused Contentious Topics|a motion]], remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the ''The Troubles'' case has been amended.
* An arbitration case named ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Industrial agriculture|Industrial agriculture]]'' has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

[[File:Info Simple bw.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Miscellaneous'''
[[File:Info Simple bw.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Miscellaneous'''
* The [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/November 2023 Backlog Drive|'''Articles for Creation backlog drive''']] is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets|the Gadgets settings]]. [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/November 2023 Backlog Drive/Participants|'''Sign up here to participate!''']]
*Voting in the [[:meta:Stewards/Elections 2023|2023 Steward elections]] will begin on 05 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC). The [[:meta:Stewards/Confirm/2023|confirmation process]] of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically [https://meta.toolforge.org/accounteligibility/67 check your eligibility] to vote.
* Voting in the [[:meta:Community Wishlist Survey 2023|2023 Community Wishlist Survey]] will begin on 10 February 2023 and end on 24 February 2023. You can submit, discuss and revise proposals until 6 February 2023.
*'''Tech tip''': [[m:Community Tech/Wikitext editor syntax highlighting|Syntax highlighting]] is available in both the 2011 and 2017 Wikitext editors. It can help make editing paragraphs with many references or complicated templates easier.

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== Gadget tags for sister projects ==
== Verified account ==


Howdy. I noticed that a couple years back we got some new tags for the gadgets, like "default", "sister", etc. I was wondering if there were any relevant discussions about the introduction of those tags that I could look at for some of the reasoning behind introducing them? Thank you. [[User:Enterprisey|Enterprisey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Enterprisey|talk!]]) 22:32, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
@[[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]] Hello, can you give me a verified account flag? [[User:GlazaLubvi|GlazaLubvi]] ([[User talk:GlazaLubvi|talk]]) 21:20, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
:Replied on your talk. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 21:32, 2 February 2023 (UTC)


:@[[User:Enterprisey|Enterprisey]] not a lot, there is some discussion in [[phab:T65598]] about the (E) marking - and I sort of took that upon myself to start doing something to try to mitigate some of those concerns. The (D) default one is half-implemented in software now (it displays in [[Special:Gadgets]] but not yet in [[Special:Preferences]] ([[phab:T51501]] may one day implement that). The S, and U were things I came up with mostly in isolation to help our users make better risk decisions for themselves. I'm wide open to any feedback, additional improvements or workshopping overhauls if you would like. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:41, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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== Tech News: 2023-06 ==
Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2023/46|Translations]] are available.

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2023/06|Translations]] are available.


'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* Four new wikis have been created:
* In the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements|Vector 2022 skin]], logged-out users using the full-width toggle will be able to see the setting of their choice even after refreshing pages or opening new ones. This only applies to wikis where Vector 2022 is the default. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T321498]
** a Wikipedia in [[d:Q7598268|Moroccan Amazigh]] ([[w:zgh:|<code>w:zgh:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T350216]

** a Wikipedia in [[d:Q35159|Dagaare]] ([[w:dga:|<code>w:dga:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T350218]
'''Changes later this week'''
** a Wikipedia in [[d:Q33017|Toba Batak]] ([[w:bbc:|<code>w:bbc:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T350320]
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.40/wmf.22|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-02-07|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-02-08|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-02-09|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.40/Roadmap|calendar]]).
** a Wikiquote in [[d:Q33151|Banjar]] ([[q:bjn:|<code>q:bjn:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T350217]
* Previously, we announced when some wikis would be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. These switches will not be announced any more, as the read-only time has become non-significant. Switches will continue to happen at 7AM UTC on Tuesdays and Thursdays. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292543#8568433]
* Across all the wikis, in the Vector 2022 skin, logged-in users will see the page-related links such as "What links here" in a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements/Features/Page_tools|new side menu]]. It will be displayed on the other side of the screen. This change had previously been made on Czech, English, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T328692]
*[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey 2023|Community Wishlist Survey 2023]] will stop receiving new proposals on [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1675706431 Monday, 6 February 2023, at 18:00 UTC]. Proposers should complete any edits by then, to give time for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Help_us|translations]] and review. Voting will begin on Friday, 10 February.

'''Future changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] Gadgets and user scripts will be changing to load on desktop and mobile sites. Previously they would only load on the desktop site. It is recommended that wiki administrators audit the [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition|gadget definitions]] prior to this change, and add <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>skins=…</code></bdi> for any gadgets which should not load on mobile. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T328610 More details are available].

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== Tech News: 2023-07 ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2023/07|Translations]] are available.


'''Problems'''
'''Problems'''
* On wikis where patrolled edits are enabled, changes made to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Communities/How to configure the mentors' list|mentor list]] by autopatrolled mentors are not correctly marked as patrolled. It will be fixed later this week. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T328444]
* Last week, users who previously visited Meta-Wiki or Wikimedia Commons and then became logged out on those wikis could not log in again. The problem is now resolved. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T350695]
* Last week, some pop-up dialogs and menus were shown with the wrong font size. The problem is now resolved. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T350544]


'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
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Can you please help me understand and adapt a specific part of {{tl|Sandbox heading}}? I just want to know how the button to "reset the sandbox" works. What are those pages and those edit id numbers? What exactly would I need to put for my homewiki if we are using this page as a sandbox: [[sq:WP:Livadhi]] ? - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 11:58, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
==Surprise!!!==
:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] those are just some "know good versions" from the history of those various sandboxes, e.g: [[Special:Permalink/1152694269]] is a known good version of [[Wikipedia talk:Sandbox]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:38, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Xaosflux. I was somewhat surprised, to say the least, to receive a notification that {{noping|The Night Watch}} is my new mentor, because you have removed {{noping|Kaleeb18}} from mentorship. <big><big>🤔</big></big> [[User:JBW|JBW]] ([[User talk:JBW|talk]]) 17:18, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
::So to adapt it for my homewiki I just set it to a known good old version of our page? What exactly happens with those versions? Are they edited? Restored? What happens when you edit an old version of a page as I've never tried that before. Just asking so I don't end up ruining page histories in general.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1699969746977:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 13:49, 14 November 2023 (UTC)</span>
:{{re|JBW}} you must be opted-in to being a mentee - probably from one of the early experiments, {{re|Kaleeb18}} was your prior mentor who has retired from WP; I removed them as a mentor so that people sending "ask my mentor" questions wouldn't go to him anymore, when this happened all of his prior mentees were pseduorandomly assigned to new mentors. You probably don't need mentoring at this point in your wiki career :) As an admin, I think you can claim yourself as a mentee at [[Special:ClaimMentee]] if you want to stay opted-in, but avoid that sort of thing in the future, or you can always poke The Night Watch and ask for some suggestions on articles to edit ;) — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:43, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
:::It makes a link with the <code>&oldid</code> parameter, which is the same if you go to a page, go to the history, and open an old version. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:56, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
:: I have no memory whatever of opting in to be a mentee, and if I did ever opt in then I certainly never followed that up and actually became a mentee. Perhaps, however, I should take it up now: there may be a benefit of advice from someone newer, with a fresh outlook, instead of the jaded and worn-out approach that I have probably fallen into. <big><big><big>🥱</big></big></big> [[User:JBW|JBW]] ([[User talk:JBW|talk]]) 18:40, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
::::Thank you! {{Smiley|:-)}}<span id="Klein_Muçi:1699972131506:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt">—&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 14:28, 14 November 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::{{re|JBW}} there is also a chance that you got hit with [[phab:T301981]]. Some people that never opted in get a notification anyway when their mentor changes (everyone has a mentor, but for most established users they are never used for anything). I'll keep following up on that ticket to avoid noise for people that don't need it. You are welcome to use the feature if you want! — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:45, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
:::: "Everyone has a mentor"? Really? Why? [[User:JBW|JBW]] ([[User talk:JBW|talk]]) 20:49, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:JBW|JBW]] it is just the way the system got initiated, something about not having null entries in the database tables. Most existing users never got opted-in, so it doesn't do anything - except for now possibly give people annoying notifications until that gets fixed! — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 22:07, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
:::::: For me, the notification was not at all annoying, in fact I found it more amusing than anything else. Anyway, thanks for the explanation. [[User:JBW|JBW]] ([[User talk:JBW|talk]]) 08:25, 20 February 2023 (UTC)


== Adding template ==
Mentoring still exists on Wikipedia? I thought all those old processes went inactive years ago. That's nice to know. I always thought that peer mentoring was a good concept. - <b>[[User:Jc37|jc37]]</b> 19:11, 19 February 2023 (UTC)


Hello @[[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]] I have seen that you have interface-admin right here so I am confirmed that you have some knowledge of CSS or JavaScript so can you help adding protected page template to Public Test Wiki. [[User:Nexovia|Nexovia]] ([[User talk:Nexovia|talk]]) 12:44, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Jc37|Jc37]] the old "mentoring" process ([[Wikipedia:Mentorship]]) sort of is still around, the new process that this log event was related to is primary targeted at brand new editors and is described at [[Wikipedia:Growth Team features]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:43, 19 February 2023 (UTC)


:[[:testwiki:Template:Pp]] already exists. Keep in mind, it is just for testing things we don't actually mark up every protected page with it there. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:32, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
::Interesting! Thank you for the information. Learn something new every day : ) - <b>[[User:Jc37|jc37]]</b> 03:37, 20 February 2023 (UTC)


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:@[[User:Asparagusus|Asparagusus]] {{done}} you may want to follow up with that editor on copyvios, COI, and USERNAME issues. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:18, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
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My username is [[User:IntegerSequences|IntegerSequences]]. I added the code of Wikibreak Enforcer to [[User:IntegerSequences/common.js|my common.js page]] but later found that it was a mistake but only me and interface admins can edit that page. Please help! 10:20, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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:{{done}} — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:33, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks. [[User:IntegerSequences|<span style="font-family:courier;color:red">Integer</span><span style="font-family:copperplate;color:springgreen">Sequences</span>]] ([[User_talk:IntegerSequences|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/IntegerSequences|contribs]]) 12:04, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

== You mistyped ==

Your userpage says User Boxen instead of Userboxes, it must have 1 capital and no typos, also you must join the two words [[User:UrSUS529|UrSUS529]] ([[User talk:UrSUS529|talk]]) 17:20, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

:Thanks for the suggestion, I like it how it is. Best regards, — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:28, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
::{{U|UrSUS529}}, this is an inside joke for computer nerds from the old days of computing. The joke is that "oxen" is the plural of "ox", so "boxen" should be the plural of "box". – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 17:56, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
:::Really? I always thought it was a German thing. What do oxen have to do with computers? Or is it that computers were sometimes called boxes? Still, I like Xaosflux's answer - it's so polite.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 18:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
::::Yes, "Unix box" or "Linux box" is jargon, where "box" means "computer" or "server". The [[Jargon File]] says that "boxen" originated as an analog of "VAXen" (multiple VAX computers), which came from "oxen". It's just a jokey [[Morphology (linguistics)|mapping of a morphological pattern]] onto a place where it does not belong. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 20:40, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
:::::I don't suppose they had cows in mind when they created the VAX acronym. My knowledge of Latin is not scholarly, but rather through my knowledge of French (vache), if I happen to think about it.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 21:02, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
::::::See more language tips in [http://catb.org/jargon/html/overgeneralization.html this mirror] of the jargon file! — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 22:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
::Okay, that's fine [[User:UrSUS529|UrSUS529]] ([[User talk:UrSUS529|talk]]) 17:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

== Interface message suggestion ==

Hi Xaosflux! When I recently tried to move [[Draft:Pete Sutherland]] to [[Pete Sutherland]] (currently a redirect to a soap opera character), it gave me the normal error, as non-admins cannot overwrite a page. I'm about to submit a request to [[WP:RM#TR]] to usurp the title, but I noticed that the interface message does not point to it, or indeed even suggest that usurping is possible; it just says {{tq|The page could not be moved, for the following reason: A redirect already exists at [[Pete Sutherland]], and it cannot be deleted automatically. Please choose another name.}} Telling editors unilaterally to choose another name when sometimes usurping is the right course of action is bad advice (and reinforces systemic bias to the extent it gives precedence to older articles), so I think it should be changed. I couldn't find where that message is stored, as searching doesn't turn it up and I'm not able to add <code>uselang=qqx</code> to the URL in the middle of submitting. You tend to be knowledgeable about this area — would you be able to help me find and modify the message? Cheers, <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 05:31, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Sdkb|Sdkb]] The common move move fails messages should be: [[MediaWiki:Cannotmove]] as the first line, followed by a "reason" such as [[MediaWiki:Articleexists]] or [[MediaWiki:Redirectexists]]. I think you hit the last one there. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:14, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
::That's it; thanks! Requested the edit there. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 22:51, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

== Open meeting for patrollers ==

Hello, Xaosflux and friendly talk-page stalkers.

The [[mw:Editing team]] is starting a new project, [[mw:Edit check]]. They are particularly seeking the views of RecentChanges patrollers and other reviewers. One of the open questions is: When should the visual editor encourage people to add a citation?

The meeting will be this Friday, 3 March 2023. More information is available at [[mw:Editing team/Community Conversations#3 March 2023]]. I hope that you will be able to attend, but if you aren't, please consider leaving your advice to the team on the talk page. They would particularly value hearing about the citation standards at different Wikipedias, and also what you think the biggest problem is with the first edits made by new editors. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 18:21, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

==[[User:Xaosflux/Sandbox44]]==
Hello, Xaosflux,

Your user page is showing up on [[User:AnomieBOT III/Broken redirects/Userspace|the broken redirects page]] as a page to be deleted or fixed because, well, it is a broken redirect. But I see in the page history that it is a test edit. So, I'm unsure what to do here. We delete broken redirects or at least remove or correct them from the page they are on but we also don't generally mess around with user pages of editors who have as much experience and advanced privileges as you have. But these error pages get updated every 6 hours and until the page is either deleted or the content altered, it will keep showing up as an error that needs to be dealt with.

So, maybe you could finish up with your test or alter the content so that it links to an existing page before my mild OCD kicks in. Thank you! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 21:05, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Liz|Liz]] blanked it for now, was a quick test for [[phab:T44899]] - but any that need to stay live I'll drop on testwiki. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 21:55, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

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* All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 1. This is planned for [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1677679222 14:00 UTC]. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server_switch]
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I tried to create a candidacy statement, and I think that my candidacy statement is in some sort of limbo. Do I need to start over, or is there somewhere that I can pick up the pieces and continue the process in the next eight hours? Thank you. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 16:06, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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:@[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] thank you for self-nominating. Your statement was created and is located here: [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023/Candidates/Robert McClenon/Statement]]; the minimum needed to complete the nomination is to transclude it to the candidates page. Edit this section of this page: [[Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2023/Candidates#Standing_candidates]] and insert your candidate page along with the others. There may be some other pages to clean up (talk pages, the questions page, etc - but those can be cleaned up after). — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:50, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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::Thank you. I didn't know that I was allowed to do that. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 18:38, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1141310223#Resysop Request (The Wordsmith)|The Wordsmith]]
:::You're in; any other cleanups someone else may handle. Best regards, — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:45, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{hlist|class=inline
::::Yep, the coordinators can assist and getting all the other pages set up. Thanks for applying. - 🔥[[User:Illusion Flame|𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆]] [[User talk:Illusion Flame|(𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)]]🔥 19:55, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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Dear Xaosflux, Hello, I'm going to accept an draft submission [[Draft:Environmental issues in Myanmar]] but I saw this topic is already exist in article namespace and redirect to [[Myanmar]], so, I request to you please delete [[Environmental issues in Myanmar]] and I will be able to accept this submission only after this page is deletion, I'm waiting for deletion of this page under [[WP:G6]]. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 14:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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:@[[User:Aviram7|Aviram7]] not sure why you looked for me on this one, but I've gone ahead and deleted [[Environmental issues in Myanmar]] under the CSD. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:20, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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:Dear Xaosflux, Thanks for about that. :) ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 14:57, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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== Tech News: 2023-48 ==
*Congratulations on your election! I hope you find the work interesting. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 03:33, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Liz|Liz]] thank you, there is a lot to it, but there is a good team! — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:29, 3 March 2023 (UTC)


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I was just archiving my old talk page and noticed you had welcomed me back. Thank you! &mdash;[[User:Siroxo|siro]][[User talk:Siroxo|''&chi;'']][[Special:Contributions/Siroxo|o]] 05:42, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

== Tech News: 2023-10 ==

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* The Community Wishlist Survey 2023 edition has been concluded. Community Tech has [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Results|published the results]] of the survey and will provide an update on what is next in April 2023.
* On wikis which use [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Writing_systems|LanguageConverter]] to handle multiple writing systems, articles which used custom conversion rules in the wikitext (primarily on Chinese Wikipedia) would have these rules applied inconsistently in the table of contents, especially in the Vector 2022 skin. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T306862]


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* A search system has been added to the [[Special:Preferences|Preferences screen]]. This will let you find different options more easily. Making it work on mobile devices will happen soon. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T313804]
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== Tech News: 2023-49 ==
== Block an account from creating accounts? ==


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Hello, Xaosflux! Is there a way one can block an account from creating other multiple accounts? If you check [[w:sq:Speciale:Log/newusers]] and search the page for ''Të paret e Llapit'' you'll see that they have wrongly created 4 new accounts now, maybe attempting to write an article (they've also tried using their user page as an article page). Any function that can block this functionality from an account? - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 10:25, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
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:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] yes, see [[:testwiki:Special:Redirect/logid/358666|this example block]] (just do partial, and only select creating accounts. There are of course many many many ways around that (including just logging out). — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:10, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
::Can you give me temporary admin access on TestWiki for 1 week so I can unblock and reblock your 2nd account and thus learn what option to use for that? We have the interface badly translated in Albanian in such a way that most options don't make any sense for us. I need to retranslate them.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1678800928253:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 13:35, 14 March 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] since youre a prod sysop it can be indefinite there :D And block your own account :D — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:44, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
::::Thanks a lot! Small curiosity: I'm not familiar with the expression "''prod'' sysop". What exactly does ''prod'' stand for?<span id="Klein_Muçi:1678848293266:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 02:44, 15 March 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] sorry for the jargon, "prod" = "production". We generally will give any permeant sysop of a production public wiki admin access on testwiki to test things. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 09:26, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::Oh, okay. That's what I was thinking but I couldn't find the definition anywhere explained. Do these rules apply to the interface admin role as well? I was thinking that maybe testing and localizing new gadgets there before getting them to run on SqWiki would be a good thing but currently I'm not working with any gadgets.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1678892419414:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 15:00, 15 March 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::::::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] basically yup, if you need it there feel free to ping me. We generally do remove it from people not actively using it after a while. The one sort of gadget test we don't normally like much of on testwiki is default gadgets, so if your gadget is for logged-out-users, you can test it QUICKLY, then turn it right off (otherwise it can interfere with lots of other people's tests). If it is a gadget for users (even if you will make it default elsewhere) - don't make it default, and just turn it on to test it (and once done, delete it). — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:09, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you for information!<span id="Klein_Muçi:1678893512973:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 15:18, 15 March 2023 (UTC)</span>

== LOL OMG ==

[[Special:Diff/1144416168/1145032640|Thank you so much]], I have no idea why I couldn't figure this out, I'm just no good on working in variables. I will use this, {{small|if you don't mind}} :P - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 22:31, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

:Think I'm done messing around with it now, have fun! — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 22:34, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

::Thank you for all you do, you're a legit project gem. Cheers, - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 22:41, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

== Question for edit filter manager ==

Hi @[[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]]

While responding to [[Wikipedia:Edit_filter/False_positives]], I came across [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/225 Abuse Filter 225] which looked like it missed something. After putting it in Regex it looked like <code>!summary rlike ("/\* .*" + match + ".* \*/")</code> misses something. Would <code>!summary rlike ("\/\* .*" + match + ".* \*\/")</code> fix it? [[User:1AmNobody24|1AmNobody24]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|talk]]) 09:26, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:1AmNobody24|1AmNobody24]] which FP item is that regarding? (Suggest moving this to [[WP:EFN]] with exact examples). — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:01, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]] I found it while I was on [[WP:Edit_filter/False_positives#2603:9001:3203:E1A0:D8D6:E880:B403:A488|this]], but that one was a different problem. Since it isn't really connected with a FP i wasn't sure if [[WP:EFN]] is the right place for it. [[User:1AmNobody24|1AmNobody24]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|talk]]) 10:07, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
:::EFN is fine for any filters you think have an error, especially if you have an example and a proposed fix - worse case nothing happens :) — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:17, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
::::Got it I'll take it there then. {{thank}} for the fast replies. [[User:1AmNobody24|1AmNobody24]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|talk]]) 10:24, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:1AmNobody24|1AmNobody24]] (also I don't want it to get lost here - I won't have time to work on that for a couple days, but someone else may!) — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 12:38, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]] I got it already sorted out at [[WP:EFN]]. The / was used as text for detecting the automatic summary not as a delimiter that has to be escaped, but escaping it would still work, so it makes no difference if changed or not. [[User:1AmNobody24|1AmNobody24]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|talk]]) 12:44, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

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'''Problems'''
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* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] A link to the user's [[{{#special:CentralAuth}}]] page will appear on [[{{#special:Contributions}}]] — some user scripts which previously added this link may cause conflicts. This feature request was [[:m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Admins and patrollers/Add link to CentralAuth on Special:Contributions|voted #17 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey]].
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] The [[{{#special:AbuseFilter}}]] edit window will be resizable and larger by default. This feature request was [[:m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Anti-harassment/Make the AbuseFilter edit window resizable and larger by default|voted #80 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey]].
* There will be a new option for Administrators when they are unblocking a user, to add the unblocked user’s user page to their watchlist. This will work both via [[{{#special:Unblock}}]] and via the API. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257662]

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== Multi-level transclusion ==

Hello, Xaos! Can you help me solve something in SqWiki? This is our template for creating RFAs: [https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrata/Administrator%C3%AB/Kandidatura/InputInit Link]. It works fine in itself ([https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrata/Administrator%C3%AB/Kandidatura/Berishasinan recent example]) but look what happens when you transclude it on the main page where people are expected to see RFAs: [https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrata#Votimet Link]. The problem is with <nowiki>{{User|{{SUBPAGENAME}}}}</nowiki>. I think I should be using {{tl|safesubst}} somewhere over there to solve it but I'm not sure where exactly. - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 19:51, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] I think I understand what you want, is it this: When someone makes a new application (such as it would appear [https://sq.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&create=Create+the+candidacy&preload=Wikipedia%3AAdministrata%2FAdministrator%C3%AB%2FKandidatura%2FInputInit&title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrata%2FAdministrator%C3%AB%2FKandidatura%2FXaosflux in this link]) all those SUBPAGE values should be subst'd in on to the new page they are creating? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:20, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
::I suppose so. I was talking only about the first SUBPAGE value because that is what is bringing problems but maybe all of them should be subst'd.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1679516630278:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 20:23, 22 March 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] yup, do them all. QND example [https://sq.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&create=Create+the+candidacy&preload=P%C3%ABrdoruesi:Xaosflux%2Fsandbox%2F2&title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrata%2FAdministrator%C3%AB%2FKandidatura%2FXaosflux link] - just wrap them in something like I did here: [[:w:sq:Përdoruesi:Xaosflux/sandbox/2]], that's what we usually do. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:27, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
::::Thank you, that solved it.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1679519465149:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 21:11, 22 March 2023 (UTC)</span>

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'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* The [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AbuseFilter|AbuseFilter]] condition limit was increased from 1000 to 2000. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309609]
* The spacing between paragraphs on Vector 2022 has been changed from 7px to 14px to match the size of the text. This will make it easier to distinguish paragraphs from sentences. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T351754]
* The "{{int:Visualeditor-dialog-meta-categories-defaultsort-label}}" feature in VisualEditor is working again. You no longer need to switch to source editing to edit <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:...}}</nowiki></code></bdi> keywords. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337398]
* [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Global AbuseFilter#Locally disabled actions|Some Global AbuseFilter]] actions will no longer apply to local projects. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332521]
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'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
* There is no new MediaWiki version this week. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.2|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-03-28|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-03-29|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-03-30|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.40/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* On 6 December, people who have the enabled the preference for "{{int:Discussiontools-preference-visualenhancements}}" will notice the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability|talk page usability improvements]] appear on pages that include the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>__NEWSECTIONLINK__</nowiki></code></bdi> magic word. If you notice any issues, please [[phab:T352232|share them with the team on Phabricator]].


'''Future changes'''
'''Future changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The Toolforge [[wikitech:News/Toolforge Grid Engine deprecation|Grid Engine shutdown process]] will start on December 14. Maintainers of [[toolforge:grid-deprecation|tools that still use this old system]] should plan to migrate to Kubernetes, or tell the team your plans on Phabricator in the task about your tool, before that date. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/VIWWQKMSQO2ED3TVUR7KPPWRTOBYBVOA/]
* You will be able to choose [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor/Diffs|visual diffs]] on all [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Page history|history pages]] at the Wiktionaries and Wikipedias. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T314588]
* Communities using [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Structured_Discussions|Structured Discussions]] are being contacted regarding [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Structured_Discussions/Deprecation|the upcoming deprecation of Structured Discussions]]. You can read more about this project, and share your comments, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Structured_Discussions/Deprecation|on the project's page]].
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The legacy [[mw:Mobile Content Service|Mobile Content Service]] is going away in July 2023. Developers are encouraged to switch to Parsoid or another API before then to ensure service continuity. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/4MVQQTONJT7FJAXNVOFV3WWVVMCHRINE/]


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== Protection of [[Template:CatAutoTOC]] ==
I guess I finally figured this out [[Special:Contributions/2600:1702:1F8D:1010:681:1CFE:77F4:2250|2600:1702:1F8D:1010:681:1CFE:77F4:2250]] ([[User talk:2600:1702:1F8D:1010:681:1CFE:77F4:2250|talk]]) 13:38, 28 March 2023 (UTC)


I would like to clarify [[Special:Diff/1188777839]] – removal of protection from [[Template:CatAutoTOC]]. Per [https://linkcount.toolforge.org/index.php?project=en.wikipedia.org&page=Template%3ACatAutoTOC transclusion counter], it has more than half a million transclusions. It seems that the removal of protection was done by accident. Perhaps it was supposed to be upgraded from template protection (it was protected since [[Special:Diff/886660825|2019]]) to full protection? —⁠[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 20:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
== Categories ==


:@[[User:Andrybak|Andrybak]] thank you for your vigilance. I had indeed intended to move that the other way (to FP); this should now be resolved. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 21:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Xaosflux!<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/><br/>I was wondering if you could provide some practical advice on matters related to categories. My homewiki has always been a mess in regard to categories. Now we're trying to put our attention to that area a bit. Any advice on how to start attending to the category-tree so we can provide a well-structure hierarchy? From what I've seen, we've started dealing from the branches: Users translate articles and with them, they create the missing categories (and sometimes their parent categories) they find on EnWiki on those articles. This makes maintenance/technical categories almost non-existent when compared with their content homologues.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/><br/>Bonus question: Why can't we have redirects work on category pages? I was thinking of asking about such a thing in the technical wishlist but I thought that it looked as a too obvious request so I thought that maybe there must be a reason why that doesn't exist.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1680530741201:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 14:05, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</span>
:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] for the second part, [[phab:T5311]] is ~20 years old, it may never happen for a pile of reasons. For the first part, there are lots of philosophies, and it depends what your community wants. Categories do not need to be a "tree" (and they seldom only are) - they are more of a "web". For example take the article, [[:w:sq:Banka_e_Shqip%C3%ABris%C3%AB]], it is in [[:w:sq:Kategoria:Ekonomi]] - is that useful? Who is it useful to? Categories may be used in different ways by different people (editors vs readers for example). In general, I think that very large categories are not useful for readers. For example our [[:Category:Scientists]] would be unwieldy if it was fully populated, but with only 54 entries [[:w:sq:Kategoria:Shkencëtarë]] could still be useful for your readers. [[Wikipedia:Categorization]] contains the guidelines that we use here on enwiki. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
::Yes, I've read those guidelines. I just don't know how I would start applying them practically. I mean, I was searching for a way I can "supervise from the top" the web-creating process, if that makes any sense. Utilizing tools and mass-changes. Creating a standard. Because now everyone just creates the categories needed for their article and as you said everyone is using different philosophies.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/><br/>That's a bit sad to read. Some main reasons why that cannot happen?<span id="Klein_Muçi:1680534855974:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 15:14, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::On the concept, a community discussion about what you want and what you don't want is where to start. Good background would be any deletion or merge discussions you may have had about categories in the page. Do you want your category pages to contain their own content as well, or not (such as an overview of the topic) - do you want them to just be for navigation, or also for content?
:::On the redirects, one of the primary reasons is that categories are primarily managed by wikitext on the screen, and what to do if a category is moved (and how to do it), especially during category splits or merges. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:26, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
::::I'm sorry but I fail to understand what you mean about redirects. :/<span id="Klein_Muçi:1680538389715:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 16:13, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</span>


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'''Recent changes'''
* The system for automatically creating categories for the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Babel|Babel]] extension has had several important changes and fixes. One of them allows you to insert templates for automatic category descriptions on creation, allowing you to categorize the new categories. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211665][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64714][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170654][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184941][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T33074]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.3|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-04-04|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-04-05|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-04-06|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* Some older [[w:en:Web browser|Web browsers]] will stop being able to use [[w:en:JavaScript|JavaScript]] on Wikimedia wikis from this week. This mainly affects users of Internet Explorer 11. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can try to upgrade to a newer version. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178356]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The deprecated <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>jquery.hoverIntent</code></bdi> module has been removed. This module could be used by gadgets and user scripts, to create an artificial delay in how JavaScript responds to a hover event. Gadgets and user scripts should now use jQuery <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>hover()</code></bdi> or <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>on()</code></bdi> instead. Examples can be found in the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_(users)#jquery.hoverIntent|migration guide]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T311194]
* Some of the links in [[{{#special:SpecialPages}}]] will be re-arranged. There will be a clearer separation between links that relate to all users, and links related to your own user account. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T333242]
* You will be able to hide the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Replying|Reply button]] in archived discussion pages with a new <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>__ARCHIVEDTALK__</nowiki></code></bdi> magic word. There will also be a new <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>.mw-archivedtalk</code></bdi> CSS class for hiding the Reply button in individual sections on a page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249293][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T295553][https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/DiscussionTools/+/738221]

'''Future changes'''
* The Vega software that creates data visualizations in pages, such as graphs, will be upgraded to the newest version in the future. Graphs that still use the very old version 1.5 syntax may stop working properly. Most existing uses have been found and updated, but you can help to check, and to update any local documentation. [[phab:T260542|Examples of how to find and fix these graphs are available]].

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[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (March 2023).

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:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Aoidh|Aoidh]]
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1142190725#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#March 2023|KillerChihuahua]]
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|[[Special:PermanentLink/1183114562#Requesting removal of my tools (Lourdes)|Lourdes]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1182884772#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#November 2023|Mairi]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1182884772#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#November 2023|RockMFR]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1182884772#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#November 2023|Somno]]
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1145821747#Changes to the functionaries team|Ferret]]
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* A [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Moving_forward:_Deferring_GENSEX_cases_to_AE|community RfC]] is open to discuss whether reports primarily involving [[WP:GENSEX|gender-related disputes or controversies]] should be referred to the [[WP:AE|Arbitration enforcement noticeboard]].


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[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
* Following a [[Special:Permalink/1183144832#Are admins required to have notifications enabled?|talk page discussion]], the [[WP:ADMINACCT|Administrators' accountability policy]] has been updated to note that while it is considered best practice for administrators to have [[help:Notifications|notifications]] (pings) enabled, this is not mandatory. Administrators who do not use notifications are now strongly encouraged to indicate this on their user page.
* Some older [[web browser]]s will not be able to use [[JavaScript]] on Wikimedia wikis starting this week. This mainly affects users of [[Internet Explorer 11]]. ({{phab|T178356}})
* The [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Rollback of Vector 2022|rollback of Vector 2022 RfC]] has found no consensus to rollback to Vector legacy, but has found rough consensus to disable "limited width" mode by default.
* A link to the user's [[{{#special:CentralAuth}}]] page will now appear in the subtitle links shown on [[{{#special:Contributions}}]]. This was voted #17 in the [[:m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Results|Community Wishlist Survey 2023]].


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[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
* Following [[Special:PermanentLink/1184642656#Arbitration motion regarding the extended confirmed restriction|a motion]], the [[WP:ECR|Extended Confirmed Restriction]] has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
* The ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Armenia-Azerbaijan 3|Armenia-Azerbaijan 3]]'' case has been closed.
* The Arbitration Committee has [[Special:PermanentLink/1184772491#Call for Checkusers and Oversighters|announced]] a call for Checkusers and Oversighters, stating that it will currently be accepting applications for CheckUser and/or Oversight permissions at any point in the year.
* A case about [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland|World War II and the history of Jews in Poland]] has been opened, with the first evidence phase closing 6 April 2023.
* [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023#Election timeline|Eligible users]] are invited to '''[[Special:SecurePoll/vote/806|vote on candidates]]''' for the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee|Arbitration Committee]] until ''23:59 December 11, 2023 (UTC)''. Candidate statements can be seen [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023/Candidates|here]].


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== Tech News: 2023-50 ==


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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2023/50|Translations]] are available.


'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* On Wikimedia Commons, there are some minor user-interface improvements for the "choosing own vs not own work" step in the UploadWizard. This is part of the Structured Content team's project of [[:commons:Commons:WMF support for Commons/Upload Wizard Improvements|improving UploadWizard on Commons]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T352707][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T352709]
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] In the visual editor, it is now possible to edit captions of images in galleries without opening the gallery dialog. This feature request was [[:m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Editing/Editable gallery captions in Visual Editor|voted #61 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190224]
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] You can now receive notifications when another user edits your user page. See the "{{int:Echo-category-title-edit-user-page}}" option in [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo|your Preferences]]. This feature request was [[:m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Anti-harassment/Notifications for user page edits|voted #3 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3876]


'''Problems'''
'''Problems'''
* There was a problem with all types of CentralNotice banners still being shown to logged-in users even if they had [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-centralnotice-banners|turned off]] specific banner types. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T331671]
* There was a problem showing the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Personalized first day/Newcomer homepage|Newcomer homepage]] feature with the "impact module" and their page-view graphs, for a few days in early December. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T352352][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T352349]


'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
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* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.9|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-12-12|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-12-13|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-12-14|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
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== Nomination of [[:Santa Claus machine]] for deletion ==
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The article will be discussed at '''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Santa Claus machine]]''' until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Not sure if anyone saw [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=1137189936 this edit], but the bot still has the flag, so I'd guess not. Could you action? [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 16:44, 12 April 2023 (UTC)


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:@[[User:Izno|Izno]] {{done}}, thanks for the note. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:10, 12 April 2023 (UTC)


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'''Tech News'''
== Help about a template problem ==
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'''Changes later this week'''
Hello, Xaosflux! I find myself a bit confused as how to handle a certain situation.
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.10|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-12-19|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-12-20|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-12-21|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]). There is no new MediaWiki version next week. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
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If you look at [[sq:Marrëdhëniet e jashtme të Maqedonisë së Veriut]], you'll see that there are some empty sections and some other strange behaviors in it. After a bit of investigation I found out that this was coming from {{tl|Pb}}. In EnWiki PB=Paragraph break but in SqWiki PB=Përdorues i bllokuar (Blocked user).
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If you search for Template:Pb in SqWiki you'll see that apparently that is a really old template we would use to notify users about their blocks. If you check its transclusions you'll see that it has been used less than 50 times in all these years. Now normally I want our Pb template to serve the same purpose as the one here. Most of our new articles are CX translations and for CX to work correctly it needs to have the same technical infrastructure in templates. The problem is that I don't know how to handle those ~40 old transclusions. I can use AWB for massediting but what change would I need to do exactly? - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:56, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
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:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] have you fixed one "manually" (diff?) If so I might be able to tell you what to put in AWB. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:55, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
::No, that's the problem: I don't know how to handle the situation. Should I just remove all those ~40 cases? Should I create another template and use that in those? Maybe I should just substitute the code there in those cases? A completely different solution? I don't know what would be the best choice in such situations dealing with these kinds of conflicts.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1682187557386:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 18:19, 22 April 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ah ok, so there are a few options. Yes you should remove those from those pages, as they certainly don't belong there. As far as exactly what to do, this will depend a bit on how your project standardizes style (or doesn't). It looks like you have [[:w:sq:Stampa:Quote]] that you may convert things to, or you can just use plain wiki text, something like [https://sq.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=P%C3%ABrdoruesi%3AXaosflux%2Fsandbox&diff=2547273&oldid=2547261 this]. It really comes down to how much and what type of templates/wikitext/etc you want to be on your page sources. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:03, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
::::Hello, Xaosflux! Sorry it took me so long to get back to this but I took a wiki-break and now I'm just starting to slowly ease myself in into work again. I tried converting them to quotes but the whole thing is a mess. Check the last post in here: [[:w:sq:Përdoruesja diskutim:Rrjedha]]<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Hitting ''Edit'' on it sends you to edit the template itself. I've come to the conclusion that I should remove them completely from the talk pages. Any idea how to quickly remove such sections with AWB?<span id="Klein_Muçi:1683280789818:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 09:59, 5 May 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] maybe, send me a link of a diff of an edit that makes the change from broken to "fixed" made manually. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:17, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::[[:w:sq:Special:Diff/2550895/prev|Përdoruesja diskutim:Rrjedha (Diff ~2550895)]]<span id="Klein_Muçi:1683282178553:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 10:22, 5 May 2023 (UTC)</span>


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@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] OK so you want to:
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That seems overly complicated, are you sure? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:40, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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:Well, yes. I can always remove them manually if it seems too much for regex. We're talking about only 40 cases in total. I was expecting for something greedy like .* if you understand what I mean. Basically if that template is in a section all that section must go.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1683284218964:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 10:56, 5 May 2023 (UTC)</span>
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::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] why are you trying to match unordered lists that happen to be following that template? Just matching the PB template and their content is one thing, but the second part gets complicated - how many levels of unordered lists are you also trying to capture? (What is the identifier to know when to stop including text?) To be clear, I'm asking about how you are '''also''' removing the text in that diff that starts with this: <code><nowiki>:Gjithashtu të hoqa edhe nga grupi i përd</nowiki></code>. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:01, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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:::Note: even only the PB's would need to be manually reviewed, as the ending delimiter would be the <nowiki>}}</nowiki>, but you have to watch for cases where another template is inside of that template. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:02, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
::::Yes, I'm aware of that.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>I'm matching the whole discussion. The template notifies one that they are blocked. Sometimes a discussion issues after that "Why was I blocked? Because you did this. No, I did not!" The whole section must be removed so maybe the delimiter would be <code>==</code>, the starting point for the next section?<span id="Klein_Muçi:1683285401566:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 11:16, 5 May 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] that's beyond what I normally do in AWB, you can ask over at [[Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks]]. For what it's worth this would likely be completely disapproved here: removing/replacing a broken template would always be fine - but just deleting user discussions as a side affect of a "template cleanup" would not be. Of course, how your project operates is up to your community, but I suggest you use a good edit summary so it doesn't appear you are trying bury discussion removals under the guise of template repair. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:10, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I'm aware of that. That's why I tried finding a workaround but I was literally unable to find a solution for quite some days now so I'm going for the "good edit summary" way. :/ And no problem about AWB. I only said that after your initial suggestion. I can remove them manually if that is the only solution. - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 13:26, 5 May 2023 (UTC)


== Tech News: 2023-16 ==
== Happy holidays, ya filthy animal. ==


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* You can now see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Kartographer#Show_nearby_articles|nearby articles on a Kartographer map]] with the button for the new feature "{{int:Kartographer-sidebar-nearbybutton}}". Six wikis have been testing this feature since October. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Geoinformation/Nearby_articles#Implementation][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334079]
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'''Problems'''
* At Wikimedia Commons, some thumbnails have not been getting replaced correctly after a new version of the image is uploaded. This should be fixed later this week. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T331138][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T333042]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] For the last few weeks, some external tools had inconsistent problems with logging-in with OAuth. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332650]


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== Tech News: 2023-17 ==
== ''The Signpost'': 24 December 2023 ==


<div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24}} </div><!--Volume 19, Issue 24--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * '''[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost|Read this Signpost in full]]''' * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2023-12-24|Single-page]] * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe|Unsubscribe]] * [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 10:00, 24 December 2023 (UTC) <!-- Sent via script ([[User:Evad37/SPS]]) --></div></div>
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== badge ==
'''Recent changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] The date-selection menu on pages such as [[{{#special:Contributions}}]] will now show year-ranges that are in the current and past decade, instead of the current and future decade. This feature request was [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Miscellaneous/Change year range shown in date selection popup|voted #145 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334316]


Thanks for replying, but the page you recommend:: (https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org)
'''Problems'''
is the very one I I get when I click login. And I've never prohibited scripts etc. [[User:JohnWheater|John Wheater]] ([[User talk:JohnWheater|talk]]) 15:07, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
* Due to security issues with the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|Graph extension]], graphs have been disabled in all Wikimedia projects. Wikimedia Foundation teams are working to respond to these vulnerabilities. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334940]
* For a few days, it was not possible to save some kinds of edits on the mobile version of a wiki. This has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334797][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334799][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334794]


:@[[User:JohnWheater|JohnWheater]] would you please contact TWL people directly via: {{email|wikipedialibrary|wikimedia.org}}. Thank you, — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:11, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
'''Changes later this week'''
* All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on April 26. This is planned for [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1682517653 14:00 UTC]. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server_switch]
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.6|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-04-25|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-04-26|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-04-27|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).


== A barnstar for you! ==
'''Future changes'''
* The Editing team plans an A/B test for [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability|a usability analysis of the Talk page project]]. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability/Analysis|planned measurements are available]]. Your wiki [[phab:T332946|may be invited to participate]]. Please suggest improvements to the measurement plan at [[mw:Talk:Talk pages project/Usability|the discussion page]].
* [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2023-2024|The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input]] until May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023 on Meta-wiki.


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== Hidden ToC dis-appeares on it's own during scrolling ==
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== Feedback request: Wikipedia style and naming request for comment ==


Sorry, a little late.
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With "Zebra 1" the scrolling is OK, i.e. I can scroll down to the bottom.
== ''The Signpost'': 26 April 2023 ==


[[User:Steue|Steue]] ([[User talk:Steue|talk]]) 06:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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:@[[User:Steue|Steue]] thanks for the update, this should have been rolled out for the fix without having to use the Zebra feature parameter now as well. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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==Merry Christmas!==
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<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#01902a; background-color:darkred; border-width:3px; text-align:center; padding:3px; width:800px;" class="plainlinks">[[File:Christmas tree sxc hu.jpg|196px|right]]
'''Recent changes'''
{{font|text='''<nowiki>~~~</nowiki> Merry Christmas! <nowiki>~~~</nowiki>'''|font=Century Gothic|size=30px|color=gold}}<br />{{font|color=gold|text=''Joyeux Noël! ~ Buon Natale! ~ Vrolijk Kerstfeest! ~ Frohe Weihnachten!<br />¡Feliz Navidad! ~ Feliz Natal! ~ Καλά Χριστούγεννα! ~ Hyvää Joulua!<br />God Jul! ~ Glædelig Jul! ~ Linksmų Kalėdų! ~ Priecīgus Ziemassvētkus!<br />Häid Jõule! ~ Wesołych Świąt! ~ Boldog Karácsonyt! ~ Veselé Vánoce!<br />Veselé Vianoce! ~ Crăciun Fericit! ~ Sretan Božić! ~ С Рождеством!<br />শুভ বড়দিন! ~ 圣诞节快乐!~ メリークリスマス!~ 메리 크리스마스!<br />สุขสันต์วันคริสต์มาส!'' ~ Selamat Hari Natal! ~ Giáng sinh an lành! <br> Весела Коледа! ~ Meri Kirihimete!|font=Times New Roman|size=19px}}</div>
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] The content attribution tools [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Who Wrote That?|Who Wrote That?]], [[xtools:authorship|XTools Authorship]], and [[xtools:blame|XTools Blame]] now support the French and Italian Wikipedias. More languages will be added in the near future. This is part of the [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Reading/Extend "Who Wrote That?" tool to more wikis|#7 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243711][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T270490][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334891]
{{font|text=''Hello, Xaosflux! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a [[Merry Christmas]] and a [[Happy New Year]]!''|font=Times New Roman|size=19px}}<br />[[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 18:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
* The [[:commons:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons|Video2commons]] tool has been updated. This fixed several bugs related to YouTube uploads. [https://github.com/toolforge/video2commons/pull/162/commits]
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* The [[{{#special:Preferences}}]] page has been redesigned on mobile web. The new design makes it easier to browse the different categories and settings at low screen widths. You can also now access the page via a link in the Settings menu in the mobile web sidebar. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Moderator_Tools/Content_moderation_on_mobile_web/Preferences]


== Happy New Year 2024! ==
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.7|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-05-02|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-05-03|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-05-04|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
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Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary [[blister]]s.<br><br>[[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 18:56, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (April 2023).

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[[File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Administrator changes'''
[[File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Administrator changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Spicy|Spicy]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Clovermoss|Clovermoss]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{hlist|class=inline
:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1188231933#Sysop bit restored, please|Dennis Brown]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{Hlist|class=inline
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1147764485#Inactive admin for April 2023|Ale jrb]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1148362766#Arbitration motion regarding Dbachmann|Dbachmann]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1191590740#Removal of my admin rights|Julia W]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1192513359#Time to hand in my admin hat. (Marasmusine)|Marasmusine]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1149188301#DGG|DGG]] ([[Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2023#DGG|deceased]])
|[[Special:Permalink/1187734086#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#December 2023|PBS]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1149611986#Statement by Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]]
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[[File:Checkuser Logo.svg|20px|alt=]] '''CheckUser changes'''
[[File:Checkuser Logo.svg|20px|alt=]] '''CheckUser changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1149611986#Statement by Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] {{Hlist|class=inline
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Aoidh]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|HJ Mitchell]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Sdrqaz]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1190025825#Checkuser candidates appointed (December 2023)|Spicy]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|ToBeFree]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1190025825#Checkuser candidates appointed (December 2023)|Vanamonde93]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Z1720]]
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Maxim]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{Hlist|class=inline
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Enterprisey]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Izno]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|SilkTork]]
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[[File:Oversight logo.png|20px|alt=]] '''Oversighter changes'''
[[File:Oversight logo.png|20px|alt=]] '''Oversighter changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1149611986#Statement by Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] {{Hlist|class=inline
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Aoidh]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Firefly]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Sdrqaz]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|ToBeFree]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Z1720]]
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Maxim]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{Hlist|class=inline
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Enterprisey]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|Izno]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192580292#2024 Arbitration Committee|SilkTork]]
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[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
* A [[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC on a procedural community desysop|request for comment]] about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.

[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
* Progress has started on the [[Wikipedia:Page Curation/2023 Moderator Tools project|Page Triage improvement project]]. This is to address the concerns raised by the community in their [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination/2022 WMF letter|2022 WMF letter]] that requested improvements be made to the tool.


[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
* Following the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023#Results|2023 Arbitration Committee elections]], the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: {{Noping|Aoidh}}, {{Noping|Cabayi}}, {{Noping|Firefly}}, {{Noping|HJ Mitchell}}, {{Noping|Maxim}}, {{Noping|Sdrqaz}}, {{Noping|ToBeFree}}, {{Noping|Z1720}}.
* The proposed decision in the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland|World War II and the history of Jews in Poland]] case is expected 11 May 2023.
* Following a [[Special:Permalink/1187982425#Arbitration motion regarding Ireland article names - required location of move discussions rescinded|motion]], the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were [[Special:Diff/296047880#Request to amend prior case: Ireland article names|enacted in June 2009]].
* The arbitration case ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Industrial agriculture|Industrial agriculture]]'' has been closed.


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[[File:Info Simple bw.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Miscellaneous'''
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== Blocked user restriction ==
== Happy New Year, Xaosflux! ==
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'''Xaosflux''',<br />Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable [[New Year]], and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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According to policy, when a user is blocked, the ''only'' page they can edit is their Talk page, but something came up on a blocked user's Talk page that I've never seen before, and I wanted to confirm the language in [[WP:OPTIONS]]: "'''Sitewide block''' will prevent the user from editing ''any'' page on Wikipedia with the exception of their own user talk page." (emphases in original). Can a blocked user change their Preferences? Thanks.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 11:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


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:@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] yes, sitewide blocked users can do things like change their own preferences and update their watchlist, however your quote above isn't wrong {{tq|"... the user from <em>editing any page</em>..."}} - those type of actions are not considered "edits" and the targets of those actions are not "pages". Such a block would prevent pseudo prefernces such as a [[Special:MyPage/twinkleoptions.js]] from being updated. Does something else seem amiss? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:58, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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::There are two ways I know of to change your watchlist. One is to "view and edit" it and the other "edit raw watchlist". Although both use the word "edit", it seems like the latter is more like editing a "page". Assuming a block user can do either, what is the point of all this? Why should they be permitted to do it? And although it may seem obvious to a technical user like you, I would favor clarifying the policy section, although I'm not sure how it should be worded.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 14:04, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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:::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] I suppose the key part there is that neither of those are "pages". They are made up of system messages (which are on pages, that they can't edit) - and private data.
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:::Blocking is a control that we use to stop disruption, preferences and watch lists can be used for adjusting ones "reading" experience, thus they are not prevented from being maintained during a block (There isn't an option to turn that on either in the current software).
'''Xaosflux''',<br />Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable [[New Year]], and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
:::We don't have a specific local "policy" about this, I think that section of the policy page is just meant to be informational, perhaps you could clarity what "edit"s are there by linking to [[Help:Editing]].
<br />[[User:Abishe|Abishe]] ([[User talk:Abishe|talk]]) 14:31, 1 January 2024 (UTC)<br /><br />
:::You could also add a statement that clarifies that blocked users may still manage their user settings. There are lots of reasons that should still be allowed - for one blocks are not necessarily indefinite, and being able to do things like: change your notifications, mute abusive users, fix things like a bad signature that got you blocked in the first place, etc - should certainly be allowed.
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:::If a user does manage to create special disruption via their private preferences (which the local admins wouldn't be able to detect and would generally have a sysadmin and a security task involved), their account can be [[:meta:Global locks|locked]] to prevent them from logging in at all. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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::::What you're saying with respect to the ''why'' makes a lot of sense to me, thanks. As for clarifying the policy, I don't see where Help:Editing says anything that elaborates on what is a "page" and what is not (I skimmed it - it's awfully long). Would a steward lock a user just because of the private preference subterfuge? I always thought locks were generally available only for cross-wiki abuse. As an aside, I'm not sure what kind of private preference you're referring to.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 14:48, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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:::::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] such a lock would likely come from WMF T&S or a sysadmin, hypothetical example - a vulnerability exists that if someone loaded some exact combination of things in to their watchlist it caused system disruption, they may be locked for TOS violation (and people would be scrambling to patch the vulnerability), other times locks have been temporarily used were when someone was causing disruption by abusing the read API (things that are transparent to project admins).
:::::[[:mw:Help:Page]] is a redlink, the technical aspects of "what is a page" are here: [[:mw:Manual:page table]]. In high-level "edit" is an action that create a revision to a "page". Things like: what your signature is, the contents of your watchlist, what your password is, etc - are certainly not 'pages' and don't have revision entries. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:04, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::I'd only add mw:Manual:page table to the blocking policy if I was really pissed and wanted to torture anyone who read it. :p --[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 15:09, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] wrapping back to the start - I'm assuming there is some confusion of "why can a blocked account edit their preferences", it's just because they can. Perhaps adding "Blocked users are not prevented from managing their [[Special:Preferences|preferences]]." to the end of that information line would be your fix? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:15, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::::That would certainly be the simplest and smallest change. I don't like making any significant changes to policies without first obtaining a consensus. I'll think about it. Given this issue has never come up until now after all these years of blocking editors, maybe it's unnecessary to do anything. FYI, the issue came up because of one of your examples above (changing one's signature). In closing, I just wanted to say that I ''always'' learn a lot when having these kinds of discussions with you, and I appreciate it.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 15:24, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] you are welcome, hope I helped without getting too technical; for the specific situation, think I've dealt with such a user once or twice. They had a non-compliant signature (something with templates or images I think), asked them to change it, they wouldn't, blocked them until they said they changed it, unblocked. FYI: [[phab:T306574]] is a feature request that would allow admins to forcibly reset someone's signature. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:34, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::You helped ''and'' got very technical (smiling), but if the answer ''is'' technical, what can you do? Besides, you do a good job of teaching. This user wasn't blocked for their signature, although editors complained about it. In case you're interested, see the block of {{noping|ChiserYT}} and the post-block discussion about their sig.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 15:43, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
*A bit off-topic. You changed the blocking policy on partial blocks to include a third option: "or from performing a specific set of actions". I looked at the block form, and I don't see any way to do that or even what you mean. Could you clarify?--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 15:04, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] just reverted myself there, thought that feature was here, but isn't quite live yet. PBlocks will be able to be used against only specific types of actions soon (see example block here: [[:testwiki:Special:Redirect/logid/360996]]). — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:09, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
*::Although I'm not a fan of partial blocks generally, that feature looks kinda cool.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 15:11, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
*:::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] goal of that is just to give admins choices, I agree that often a pblock isn't very effective against a user that wants to be disruptive. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:17, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


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'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* [https://mediawiki2latex.wmflabs.org/ mediawiki2latex] is a tool that converts wiki content into the formats of LaTeX, PDF, ODT, and EPUB. The code now runs many times faster due to recent improvements. There is also an optional Docker container you can [[b:de:Benutzer:Dirk_Hünniger/wb2pdf/install#Using_Docker|install]] on your local machine.
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] Last week, Community Tech released the first update for providing [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Better diff handling of paragraph splits|better diffs]], the #1 request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. [[phab:T324759|This update]] adds legends and tooltips to inline diffs so that users unfamiliar with the blue and yellow highlights can better understand the type of edits made.
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] When you close an image that is displayed via MediaViewer, it will now return to the wiki page instead of going back in your browser history. This feature request was [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Reading/Return to the article when closing the MediaViewer|voted #65 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236591]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The way that Random pages are selected has been updated. This will slowly reduce the problem of some pages having a lower chance of appearing. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309477]
* The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:SyntaxHighlight|SyntaxHighlight]] extension now supports <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><code>wikitext</code></bdi> as a selected language. Old alternatives that were used to highlight wikitext, such as <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><code>html5</code></bdi>, <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><code>moin</code></bdi>, and <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><code>html+handlebars</code></bdi>, can now be replaced. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T29828]
* [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Creating pages with preloaded text|Preloading text to new pages/sections]] now supports preloading from localized MediaWiki interface messages. [https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martin_Urbanec_(WMF)?action=edit&section=new&preload=MediaWiki:July Here is an example] at the {{int:project-localized-name-cswiki/en}} that uses <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>preload=MediaWiki:July</nowiki></code></bdi>. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T330337]

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* Graph Extension update: Foundation developers have completed upgrading the visualization software to Vega5. Existing community graphs based on Vega2 are no longer compatible. Communities need to update local graphs and templates, and shared lua modules like <bdi lang="de" dir="ltr">[[:de:Modul:Graph]]</bdi>. The [https://vega.github.io/vega/docs/porting-guide/ Vega Porting guide] provides the most comprehensive detail on migration from Vega2 and [https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Graph:PageViews&action=history here is an example migration]. Vega5 has currently just been enabled on mediawiki.org to provide a test environment for communities. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334940#8813922]


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* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] Until now, all new OAuth apps went through manual review. Starting this week, apps using identification-only or basic authorizations will not require review. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67750]


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* During the next year, MediaWiki will stop using IP addresses to identify logged-out users, and will start automatically assigning unique temporary usernames. Read more at [[m:Special:MyLanguage/IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Updates|IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Updates]]. You can [[m:Talk:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation#What should it look like?|join the discussion]] about the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Updates#What will temporary usernames look like?|format of the temporary usernames]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332805]
* There will be an [[:w:en:A/B testing|A/B test]] on 10 Wikipedias where the Vector 2022 skin is the default skin. Half of logged-in desktop users will see an interface where the different parts of the page are more clearly separated. You can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements/Updates/2023-05 Zebra9 A/B test|read more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T333180][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T335972]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] <code>jquery.tipsy</code> will be removed from the MediaWiki core. This will affect some user scripts. Many lines with <code>.tipsy(</code> can be commented out. <code>OO.ui.PopupWidget</code> can be used to keep things working like they are now. You can [[phab:T336019|read more]] and [[:mw:Help:Locating broken scripts|read about how to find broken scripts]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T336019]


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== Transfer of user's right ==
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Citing you (from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)&diff=prev&oldid=1194949323 here]) that ''"There is no technical mechanism to "transfer" access from one account to another. Users with the ability to manage permissions may technically add and remove permissions groups from accounts individually. ..."'' That's what transfer means to my mind when submitting the question and the possibility of it was what I meant to ask. Thanks for ensuring that this is possible. {{br}}Moreover, I asked about that on [[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)|Village pump (policy)]] because I guessed it's part of Wikipedia policy regarding the transfer possibility. It's not like I was asking if there's a magical button to enable instant transfer that could make me asking about this (possibility of right transfer) on [[Wikipedia:Village pump (Technical)|Village pump (Technical)]] or [[Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)|Village pump (Idea lab)]]. [[User:Natsuikomin|Natsuikomin]] ([[User talk:Natsuikomin|talk]]) 22:12, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
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Hey, yeah sorry my talk page is large. I've been waiting on the mediawiki team working on enhancing talk page experience to roll out automated page management which preserved linking to the topic headers. Possibly that is supported now? Seeing now that my talk page can't be saved, I wouldn't mind the help. I still think this should be solved by the Mediawiki configuration and not by ad-hoc user scripts and bots as this is a core function of communication and linking should be preserved. See my previous note [[User talk:Wolfgang8741#Archiving]] though I'm not opposed to getting some help. I don't have time at the moment to move some of the automated newsletter posts like "[[User talk:Wolfgang8741#Wikidata weekly summary #430|Wikidata weekly summary #430]]" and " [[User talk:Wolfgang8741#This Month in GLAM: September 2020|''This Month in GLAM'': September 2020]]" to their own subpages and probably the largest offenders for space. I don't link to those posts typically, but do reference them and do link to other conversation on and off wiki. I just don't remember where those newsletters are configured to fix where they post and would love if they linked back to manage that so users can find it easier. Sorry for not managing this, I was hoping it would be fixed by the system updating to something that didn't break links and broadly implement pagination. [[User:Wolfgang8741|Wolfgang8741 says: If not you, then who?]] ([[User talk:Wolfgang8741|talk]]) 19:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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:@[[User:Wolfgang8741|Wolfgang8741]] it happens, and it isn't a huge deal. I agree that scripts and bots can be problematic in this matter! I can give your page a try to just get it easily usable in the short-term with a one-time archive (and if you don't like it just revert we are a wiki after all! Technically the mass-message newsletters reveal their list, but it is in the form of a hidden comment on the page source (e.g. that one is [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Wikidata here]). Hope you don't think I'm singling you out here, someone linked your page in an example of very large pages in another discussion and I thought you could use some help. Things are certainly easier if editors can just worry about making the encyclopedia better and not this technical stuff! — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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== My issue is not solved by the help pages ==
Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2024/03|Translations]] are available.
{{resolved|Was a commonswiki issue. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 09:11, 16 May 2023 (UTC)}}
Hello, I was blocked, possibly auto-blocked with no appeals process in place, while providing a source of information for citation as requested. I tried to reset the password on my account but the one sent to my email did not work. I am still logged in here. I am mentally disabled, and have been accused of multiple wrongdoings, all of which are not true and there being no appeals process, I am beginning to grow concerned over the validity of Wikipedia's editing processes. Please unblock. [[User:TENROU9999|TENROU9999]] ([[User talk:TENROU9999|talk]]) 21:44, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:TENROU9999|TENROU9999]] this account is not blocked. If you have a question about a block that '''*I*''' made here, please reply with more details. Else, please see [[Wikipedia:Appealing a block]] for help. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 22:25, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks for your feedback. I am looking at a page that says I am blocked, and it says Im blocked for reasons which do not make sense to me. I cannot properly navigate this web of decentralized editing procedures due to my disabilities, and I am seeking help from a person rather than a help page. i have already looked at the help page and it did not answer my question, as I h
::followed the instructions and I was blocked for a longer period of time instead. Can you please direct me to a person that can help? [[User:TENROU9999|TENROU9999]] ([[User talk:TENROU9999|talk]]) 22:43, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:TENROU9999|TENROU9999]] what makes you think that you are blocked? What '''exactly''' is the message you are seeing? Blocks generally include the name of the administrator that made the block, and as you are not blocked (as you are able to post this message) you can also post a message to the administrator that made the block. For a general support type question, you may visit [[Wikipedia:Teahouse]] where volunteers can help you. If you prefer to get help by (much slower) email, you may email {{email|info-en|wikimedia.org}}. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:10, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::::Thank you for the redirect to someone who can help. Have a great day! [[User:TENROU9999|TENROU9999]] ([[User talk:TENROU9999|talk]]) 23:33, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::::I don't know how to share screenshots here. The page that says I am blocked will not let me copy and paste the text to here. It is accessible in my Edits tab [[User:TENROU9999|TENROU9999]] ([[User talk:TENROU9999|talk]]) 23:37, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::::Here is a rough copy of the text for reference. The user who blocked me appears to be engaging in biases which are too complicated to unpack here. "The account has been blocked from Editing Wikipedia. This does not affect your ability to read Wikipedia pages" The account TENROU9999 has been blocked (disabled) by Achim55 for the following reason(s): Vandalism on 10 other projects blocked up to 5 years" [[User:TENROU9999|TENROU9999]] ([[User talk:TENROU9999|talk]]) 23:40, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::I disagree with the misnomer of Vandalism on these pages as I was providing necessary removal of other's vandalizing those pages using biased editing processes. My block is being done to me by someone with a clear bigotted bias. [[User:TENROU9999|TENROU9999]] ([[User talk:TENROU9999|talk]]) 23:42, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::The user you mentioned, Achim55, is not an administrator here on the English Wikipedia. They are an admin on Wikimedia Commons, a different project. Your userid is not blocked on any project. If you email full screen shots of your entire screen, with the error message, to {{email|info-en|wikimedia.org}} someone will be able to look in to it further. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 00:01, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
*Notes for self, [[phab:T336721]] opened about this being the wrong message - root cause: commonswiki failed to autocreate account due to underlying network block. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 01:08, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
*:Thank you for the updates. I apologize for the trouble this has caused you. I appreciate your help. [[User:TENROU9999|TENROU9999]] ([[User talk:TENROU9999|talk]]) 01:40, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

== A barnstar for your patience in helping people ==

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== How do I get my location unblocked? ==

:Hi Xaosflux, could you help me unblock my location? And also, why did I get blocked? I'm just using my account in another location so I could add this.[[User:UserAV666|UserAV666]] ([[User talk:UserAV666|talk]]) 08:36, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:UserAV666|UserAV666]] your account has never been blocked here on the English Wikipedia. Some network ranges are blocked, but they are not specific to you. To look in to that, we would need the exact details of the block message you are seeing. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 09:27, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
::::Oh...Well yes I checked and I'm not blocked anymore!:D I was blocked a few days or weeks ago, but now I'm not. The only thing that I remember is that it said that most people who see this did nothing wrong. Then I only understood that my location or account was blocked and I tried to edit in another area of where I live and it worked. So I thought my location was blocked. Now I can edit in where I live. And also, where did you see that "I've never been blocked before"? [[User:UserAV666|UserAV666]] ([[User talk:UserAV666|talk]]) 11:30, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:UserAV666|UserAV666]] see [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy]] for a lot of information about blocks. In general there are 2 main types of blocks: (a) Blocks of a user account; (b) Blocks of a network address. Blocks of a user account are about a specific user - you can see your own block log (it is empty) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=block&user=&page=User%3AUserAV666&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=review&wpfilters%5B%5D=thanks&wpfilters%5B%5D=patrol&wpfilters%5B%5D=tag&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist here at Special:Logs]. Blocks of a network address impact anyone that happens to be using that address, and can happen for many reasons - depending on how you access the internet your network address could be shared with thousands of other people or more - especially if using a VPN or other "private browsing" software. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:12, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

== Translations ==
{{tracked|T337201}}
Hi there @[[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]],

Once again, I want to thank you for your reply on TSventon's talkpage. Even though I could not figure it out, I think it was good advice. I do want to ask about machine translation, as I'm not sure what my problem is. Basically, I'm in the process of translating articles from the Russian Wikipedia onto here, but even though I try my best to work the phrases/sentences into logical English, it still shows up as being "machine translated". For example, I have one translation in progress that is 60% complete, but it shows 100% machine translated. As a disclaimer, I use Google Translate for assistance but only when I absolutely have to. Is there a way to find out why it's being flagged like this? Please let me know. Thanks again for any help you can provide. [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 05:33, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

:"machine translation" isn't enabled here, so I'm a bit confused you are seeing that specific warning here. Are you seeing that inside of the translation page? Check the address, does it start with <code>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ContentTranslation?</code>? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:50, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
::No, it does not appear to be that specific one. Here is the exact link I have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ContentTranslation#draft
::When I hover my mouse above a translation, it will have two numbers: "x% translated, y% from machine translation". It's weird because for some translations that I check multiple times, I will have 0% machine translation one time and then all of a sudden it shows I have part of it machine translations. Seeing that machine translation isn't available here, I'm also confused. [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 17:43, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Losipov|Losipov]] are you sure you are translating '''to''' English? I would expect that if you are translating in to another language. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:43, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
::::Yes. All of the translations I've done (and are currently doing) are to English. [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 20:06, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Losipov|Losipov]] that is odd, as machine translation isn't enabled here. When you started the translation, were you on another project (such as the source project)? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:50, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::If by "project source" you mean editing other articles in different tabs, most likely not (at least not that I can recall). I don't know what I'm doing wrong for it to happen. Do translations have to be extremely precise? Because on the Russian Wikipedia the articles are written in a different way than here. So, it's not exactly in that style but still I try to translate as accurately as I can. [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 00:19, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Losipov|Losipov]] I'm trying to duplicate the issue, but need to know the exact steps you are doing that lead to where you are. When you decide to translate something, can you tell me what you do, step by step? For example: (a) Go to the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple (b) Click Translate (c) .... ;; especially if (a) is starting on another site such as https://ru.wikipedia.org
:::::::Thank you! — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 01:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Here's an example. I go to "Contributions" and click on "Translations", and pick articles to go through. If you want, the article "Artik & Asti" from the Russian Wikipedia might be the easiest to show my problems (in fact, that's the article I was referring to when I said 60/100% in the original comment. I click "add translation" for some sections like the tables, and just fix them up with English translations wherever necessary. When I exit and hover over the progress bar, it shows that it's somehow machine translated (for that specific article, it shows 100% machine translated). Is it a problem with the templates? I'm not sure. But those are some of the steps.
::::::::Here's the article, by the way: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artik_%26_Asti [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 03:02, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::@[[User:Losipov|Losipov]] that may be a display bug, we don't have machine translation turned on here (it's not automatically trying to translate the text is it?). Will it let you continue? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 03:38, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::You could get the error about "unmodified text" that has a comment about {{tq|Automatic translation is provided only as a starting point. Make sure that the content is accurate and reads naturally in your language. Your translation cannot be published without further editing.}}, if there are many templates/etc. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 03:41, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::Before I respond to your latest replies, I do want to point out something that happened very recently. I published the page [[Sayonara detka]] within the past hour, and up until the moment I published it, it showed "80% translated, 0% from machine" or something like that. I made one final translation of something minor there, and when I go back to check out the final result in Content Translation, it shows "88% translated, 20% from machine" (or something like that). Keep in mind it's a short article, so I don't know what the problem is.
:::::::::::Now to your latest replies:
:::::::::::1) Yes, I can keep working on that translation. 99% of time it doesn't automatically translate; only for some templates it does (Example: On the Russian Wikipedia for the article Lesha Svik, it shows critics reviews. And those almost always automatically translate if I click on "add translation". Here's the article: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BA,_%D0%9B%D1%91%D1%88%D0%B0)
:::::::::::2) I do get that message constantly. I always make it go away with edits though (ie: I translate enough to the point of it going away automatically). Again, it's confusing why the machine translation message is there even when its disabled. [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 03:59, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::::@[[User:Losipov|Losipov]] if you look at [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal]], under internationalization, what is your language set to here? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 04:01, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::::It's English.
:::::::::::::By the way as a side note, thanks for trying to help me. I greatly appreciate it. [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 04:03, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Would you upload a screen shot of the warning that says machine translation please? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 09:49, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::[[File:Machine Translation warning.jpg|alt=A screenshot of a translation showing 60% translated, 100% from machine translation|thumb|Artik & Asti translation progress bar]] [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 15:36, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::I apologize if the screenshot comes out wonky, but that's what I'm seeing. Is this normal? Let me know if you can't see the screenshot by the way, or if you need more of them. [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 15:37, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
*{{re|Losipov}} thank you for the screenshot, this appears to be a software bug. I've opened bug ticket: [[phab:T337201]], you may subscribe to that for updates. You may be able to publish your draft translations even if that value is still there. I suspect what is happening is that the label on that is wrong, and it is actually reporting the "unmodified text" value, not the "machine translated text" value. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:50, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
*:So there is nothing "wrong" with my translations correct? That isn't supposed to happen? From the looks of it it shouldn't. I had another question in the meantime. Oftentimes when I do translations and leave the articles, the place of the text will move to the wrong spot. For example, if there's a section titled "Music videos" and I made another section name somewhere else in the article (like "History" or something). This happens pretty frequently and I'm not sure why that is. It's not that big of a deal, but do you know of a solution to this? [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 19:19, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
*::@[[User:Losipov|Losipov]] the draft translations are private, so I can't see if there is something "wrong" or not, but I'm guessing that counter is counting something else. If you reuse a section that is the same template with the same template content, it may say it is 'untranslated'. I'm not sure how the section titles work in that tool, I haven't done much in that area. I would expect that almost anything coming out of the translate tool would require some manual cleanup once it is published -- why it is always best to publish to a sandbox first, finish the cleanup, then move the article to mainspace in my opinion. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:57, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
*:::@[[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]] Ok, I get what you're saying. If I publish it in the sandbox, will it still have the article attribution (ie: It shows that the article was translated from another Wiki)? That might be a better route, now that I think about it. It's just that the charts/tables I put in get messed up somewhere along the line, and other editors are able to fix them. Not all hope is lost there lol. [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 05:34, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
*::::@[[User:Losipov|Losipov]] oh yes, it will be exactly the same if you publish initially to a sandbox or mainspace. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 09:03, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
*:::::@[[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]] so one of my translated articles was deleted, but I asked the editor who deleted it to bring it back into a draftspace. If I edit the translation and publish it into my draftspace, will that create a duplicate or will it replace what currently exists there? If you know, of course. Thanks again. [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 21:06, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
*::::::And I apologize if this thread is unnecessarily long lol. I did not envision it being this way. I do appreciate your advice though; it's very helpful. [[User:Losipov|Losipov]] ([[User talk:Losipov|talk]]) 21:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
*::::::@[[User:Losipov|Losipov]] you should wait for them to undelete it and move it, then you should just edit it directly. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 22:35, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

== Testwiki ==

Hey, can you restore my testwiki +sysop again? I want to do some tests related to [[MediaWiki talk:Captcha-addurl-whitelist#Protected edit request on 11 April 2021]] (and a few other things). [[User:Suffusion of Yellow|Suffusion of Yellow]] ([[User talk:Suffusion of Yellow|talk]]) 19:23, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Suffusion of Yellow|Suffusion of Yellow]] {{done}} — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:44, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks again! [[User:Suffusion of Yellow|Suffusion of Yellow]] ([[User talk:Suffusion of Yellow|talk]]) 19:46, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
:::...aaaand it seems link handling on testwiki is totally broken, see [[phab:T337149]]. I guess I'll try again later. [[User:Suffusion of Yellow|Suffusion of Yellow]] ([[User talk:Suffusion of Yellow|talk]]) 20:40, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Suffusion of Yellow|Suffusion of Yellow]] of course it is .... — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:42, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::At risk of hat collecting, can I ''also'' have +sysop on test2wiki? I'm not totally sure of the answer to [[Special:Diff/1156139831|this question]]. But assuming my theory is right, test2wiki should be unaffected. [[User:Suffusion of Yellow|Suffusion of Yellow]] ([[User talk:Suffusion of Yellow|talk]]) 19:43, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Suffusion of Yellow|Suffusion of Yellow]] ok. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:52, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

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'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] The "recent edits" time period for page watchers is now 30 days. It used to be 180 days. This was a [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Notifications, Watchlists and Talk Pages/Change information about the number of watchers on a page|Community Wishlist Survey proposal]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T336250]
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* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Gadgets|Gadgets]] and personal user scripts may now use JavaScript syntax introduced in ES6 (also known as "ES2015") and ES7 ("ES2016"). MediaWiki validates the source code to protect other site functionality from syntax errors, and to ensure scripts are valid in all [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Compatibility#Browsers|supported browsers]]. Previously, Gadgets could use the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>requiresES6</nowiki></code></bdi> option. This option is no longer needed and will be removed in the future. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75714]
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* You can now [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Thanks|thank]] edits made by bots. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T341388]
* An update on the status of the Community Wishlist Survey for 2024 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey/Future Of The Wishlist/January 4, 2024 Update|has been published]]. Please read and give your feedback.


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I found a user advertising in this talk page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yello_Mobile please remove it, thanks [[User:Notrealname1234|Notrealname1234]] ([[User talk:Notrealname1234|talk]]) 16:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC)


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:@[[User:Notrealname1234|Notrealname1234]] that doesn't require an administrator, see [[Help:Reverting]] for how to undo something. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:11, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
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== Feedback request: Wikipedia technical issues and templates request for comment ==
* A bug in UploadWizard prevented linking to the userpage of the uploader when uploading. It has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T354529]


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== Tech News: 2024-05 ==
Hello Xaos! :)


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Can you help me with a small change related to an interlink?
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Check [[sq:Stampa:Faqja kryesore/Mbyllja]] and click ''Wiki-Burimet''. It sends you to the general mainpage of the Wikisource mainpage. It should instead send you to [https://wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page/Shqip this]? I'm not well informed on Wikisource and that link above does look strange but maybe that is the right place where it should lead? (Shqip=Albanian) If so, any idea how to change change the template? - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 02:01, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] looks like that is getting links from [[:w:sq:Stampa:Sisterprojects layout]]; unlike some of the other links there, there is no "sqwikisource" project so you should probably format that one like you did for the wikispecies link. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 02:20, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
::Can you try doing the said change? I lowered the protection from that template. I've tried doing that in the past but failed to accomplish it. :/<span id="Klein_Muçi:1685253325861:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 05:55, 28 May 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] looks like that is only used on [[Faqja_kryesore]], you just want the wikisource link to go to that page on wikisource? Or is this template going to be used on many pages and need dynamic output? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:58, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
::::You are right. That template serves only as the main page footer for the sister projects of Wikipedia.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1685275993140:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:13, 28 May 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] I tried a little bit, but didn't solve this yet - no more time right now. Looks like some problems in [[:w:sq:Stampa:Sisterprojects layout]]. I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do there, it looks like you are trying to send your readers to all sorts of different links on the sister projects based on their interface language (as opposed to just linking to the sq-xxxx projects). Is that your intention? If not those templates look severely over complicated. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:51, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::I'm not really sure... I remember I've copied that template from somewhere with the exact same name (maybe EnQuote). The idea is to send readers to the Albanian versions of localized projects (and to the general ones if no localized versions exist, like in the case of Commons, Wikidata, etc.) I don't know what exactly is going on with Albanian Wikisource...<span id="Klein_Muçi:1685291935262:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 16:38, 28 May 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::::::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] may want to simplify that, all that copy-paste dragged a lot that you don't need in there. You mentioned "Albanian Wikisource", however there ''is no such thing''. For example, there is an [[:s:en:Main page|English Wikisource]] and a [[:s:fr:Wikisource:Accueil|French Wikisource]]. You are wanting to just link to some subpages on the interlanguage-wikisource. (wikisource.org). — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:58, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::::I would simplify it if I knew how to do that while preserving the current state. As for the Albanian Wikisource... So that's only a weird experiment someone has done in the past ? :P If that's the case, maybe linking to the wikisource.org is good enough.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1685295931677:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 17:45, 28 May 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::::::::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] I'm not familiar with how language groups organize on wikisource, may want to ask someone over there. As far as your template, I don't think you need any of those conditionals, layered project names, etc - since all you want is a set of static links, someone from your project may be better off forking to a new page instead of trying to drag all that overhead from some other project over. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:03, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

== Editor Interaction Analyzer ==

Hi, lately I've noticed problems with the above tool. Take a look at [https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Dr-Vivoo&users=Mr.+Baslamntlish&users=&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki this comparison]. It says that there is no page intersection, which is wrong. I'm not sure how many, but here are two: [[Draft:Riyad Al-Qasbaji]] and [[User talk:Dr-Vivoo]]. Is this a known problem? Should I report it and, if so, where? Thanks.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 14:16, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] it looks like that tool is maintained by {{noping|Σ}}, they would be the only person that appears to be able to help with it. You may want to try this similar tool that has more maintainers: [[:meta:Community health initiative/Interaction Timeline]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:37, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
::This stuff really wears me out. Σ hasn't edited in almost a year. With great difficulty, I set up the so-called health tool, and it shows "no results". See [https://interaction-timeline.toolforge.org/?wiki=enwiki&user=Dr-Vivoo&user=Mr.%20Baslamntlish&startDate=1675209600&endDate=1685318399 here]. Did I do the set-up wrong?--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 16:15, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] I'm assuming you are expecting to find [[Hassan El Asmar]]? It may be not showing as the [https://replag.toolforge.org/ replication lag] is almost 3 days behind right now. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:20, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
::::I assumed I'd find more intersection than that, but after glancing at some other pages, the intersections occurred on May 26, at the earliest. I can't interpret the link to the lag you provided, but I'll take your word for it. Wouldn't that also affect the EIA? Is the lag unusually behind recently because that might explain why EIA has been working intermittently lately.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 16:34, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] yes, 83 hours is ''unusually long'', it will likely settle down during the week. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:53, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::So, should I take from this that EIA's results may be incomplete depending on the lag? When you say it will probably settle down, do you mean that the lag will go back to "normal", or is there a new longer normal? Just trying to figure out what to expect.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 17:41, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] if I recall correctly, the tool data base replica is ''usually'' <12 hours. Check back with that link above later in the week - if it persists being many days long for a while we can open a ticket. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:01, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::::As usual, many thanks.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 20:07, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

== Tech News: 2023-22 ==

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'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* Starting Monday January 29, all talk pages messages' timestamps will become a link. This link is a permanent link to the comment. It allows users to find the comment they are looking for, even if this comment was moved elsewhere. This will affect all wikis except for the English Wikipedia. You can read more about this change [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/01/29/talk-page-permalinks-dont-lose-your-threads/ on Diff] or [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:DiscussionTools#Talk_pages_permalinking|on Mediawiki.org]].<!-- The Diff post will be published on Monday morning UTC--> [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302011]
* Citations can once again be added automatically from ISBNs, thanks to Zotero's ISBN searches. The current data sources are the Library of Congress (United States), the Bibliothèque nationale de France (French National Library), and K10plus ISBN (German repository). Additional data source searches can be [[mw:Citoid/Creating Zotero translators|proposed to Zotero]]. The ISBN labels in the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:VisualEditor/User_guide/Citations-Full#Automatic|VisualEditor Automatic tab]] will reappear later this week. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T336298#8859917]
* There are some improvements to the CAPTCHA to make it harder for spam bots and scripts to bypass it. If you have feedback on this change, please comment on [[phab:T141490|the task]]. Staff are monitoring metrics related to the CAPTCHA, as well as secondary metrics such as account creations and edit counts.
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] The page [[{{#special:EditWatchlist}}]] now has "{{int:watchlistedit-normal-check-all}}" options to select all the pages within a namespace. This feature request was [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Notifications, Watchlists and Talk Pages/Watchlist edit - "check all" checkbox|voted #161 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334252]

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* For a few days earlier this month, the "Add interlanguage link" item in the Tools menu did not work properly. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337081]


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* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.16|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-01-30|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-01-31|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-02-01|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] On February 1, a link will be added to the "Tools" menu to download a [[w:en:QR code|QR code]] that links to the page you are viewing. There will also be a new [[{{#special:QrCode}}]] page to create QR codes for any Wikimedia URL. This addresses the [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Mobile and apps/Add ability to share QR code for a page in any Wikimedia project|#19 most-voted wish]] from the [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Results|2023 Community Wishlist Survey]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T329973]
* VisualEditor will be switched to a new backend on [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki-config/browse/master/dblists/small.dblist small] and [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki-config/browse/master/dblists/medium.dblist medium] wikis this week. Large wikis will follow in the coming weeks. This is part of the effort to move Parsoid into MediaWiki core. The change should have no noticeable effect on users, but if you experience any slow loading or other strangeness when using VisualEditor, please report it on the phabricator ticket linked here. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T320529]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Gadgets|Gadgets]] which only work in some skins have sometimes used the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>targets</code></bdi> option to limit where you can use them. This will stop working this week. You should use the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>skins</code></bdi> option instead. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T328497]


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==You've got mail!==
== My Three May Requests ==
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– [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 15:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)


:I didn't get an email, however if this is in reference to [[ticket:2024012510010752]] - it is open and being discussed still. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
I did NOT clogged up the edit request queue. I made three requests in the span of three days with very reasonable, clearly described, X to Y requests, and have had multiple successful requests to other protected, active admin pages. [[User:AnomieBOT/PERTable]] has not had more than 11 active protected page requests at one time. Hardly a busy list.


== ''The Signpost'': 31 January 2024 ==
On the request instructions, it states {{tq|"If you have noticed an error or have a suggestion for a simple, non-controversial change, you can submit an edit request by clicking the button below and following the instructions. An administrator may then make the change on your behalf. Please check the talk page first in case the issue is already being discussed".}} It does NOT state that admin pages are off limits. Nor should it. Admin pages should be held to the same standard as other userpages, and if an issue is known, there should be an avenue to rectify the issue. These protected page requests ARE this avenue.


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== Administrators' newsletter – February 2024 ==
I know there is procedural denial for requesting pp reduction for admin pages, but requesting valid fixes are 100% permitted, as demonstrated by the multiple, unquestioned, similar clean syntax requests in the past month I've made to '''active admin''' pages. '''ALL''' of which were accepted, by '''multiple administrators''':


[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (January 2024).
Accepted by Izno: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CJCurrie#Protected_edit_request_on_21_May_2023 (CJCurrie)], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Materialscientist/Awards#Protected_edit_request_on_24_May_2023 (Materialscientist)], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nihonjoe/Userboxen/Interests#Protected_edit_request_on_20_May_2023 (Nihonjoe; some discussion)], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SpacemanSpiff#Protected_edit_request_on_21_May_2023 (SpacemanSpiff)], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cactus.man/Talk/Main_header&oldid=1157437933 (Cactus.man)]


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Accepted by MSGJ:
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Starblind#Protected_edit_request_on_25_May_2023 (Starblind)]
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mojo_Hand&oldid=1157115895 (Mojo_Hand)]
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Versageek/Talk/Archive/1#Protected_edit_request_on_25_May_2023 (Versageek)]

Timotheus_Canens himself: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timotheus_Canens#Protected_edit_request_on_25_May_2023 (Timotheus_Canens)]

Other than the three pages you've marked 'not done', I've had '''NO''' rejected admin page correction requests.

I've cleared over three thousand of these Tidy Font errors on Wikipedia the past few months. My edits are clean, nonproblematic, and noncontroversial. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Lint_errors/tidy-font-bug Mediawiki's] July 2018 change to RemexHtml rendered the <nowiki><font>[[link]]</font></nowiki> format of coloring links broken on many browsers (browsers affected default back to normal blue instead of displaying the user specified colors), and this issue is a highpriority [[WP:LINT]] error to fix.


If you disagree with the side note inquiry on [[User:Versageek/Talk/Archive/2]], that's fine, it may be ignored. That's why I noted it as a side comment and not directly part of the request. I was surprised MSGJ lowered Versageek/Talk/Archive/1 since Versageek is Admin, but thought since there were the same errors on 2, 3, and 4 of the same user, I'd at least inquire if the same reasons for lowering 1 held for 3 and 4 so that I wouldn't need to make additional protection requests for this issue on those pages later on.

Nihonjoe has [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nihonjoe/Userboxen/Interests&oldid=1156821823 already permitted] this type of request on his pages. If he wishes to directly review [[User talk:Nihonjoe/Award list‎|this change]] too, I welcome it. My request to one of his other pages earlier in May was the only one I've ever made that needed a discussion to pass, and it was due to our views and knowledge on <nowiki>''' vs <b></nowiki>. This discussion was smoothly resolved, and my requests was permitted with his approval. I don't see his Award list being any different.

Sure, [[User_talk:MastCell/Barnstars]] is a bit longer of a request, but one request for 7 X to Ys to clear a longer page of all issues seemed reasonable opposed to the idea of multiple single X to Y requests over a longer period of time. I consider and weigh my requests so they are reasonable. This is why I did not request changes to all the other, lesser issues on [User talk:Versageek/Talk/Archive/2]].

I ask that you reconsider these three requests, as I've followed the rules at [[WP:EDITXY]] as I have for all other requests, and these three requests are in line with others I've made for all admin pages; clearly defined, noncontrovertial syntax corrections that fix visually broken issues.

Thank you for your time,
[[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] ([[User talk:Zinnober9|talk]]) 07:03, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

:The edit request queue serves as an important check against the protection policy, so patrolling it is an important workflow for other admins. I'm not saying there is anything intrinsically wrong with asking for these changes, but it would be more appropriate to just ask on the base usertalk page of the user - especially when you are creating an entire new talk page that will unlikely ever be used for anything else ever - just to hold that request. If the user is inactive, you could add an administrator edit request there (or if they are lengthy inactive, perhaps the page doesn't need protecting anymore and it would be better to request its unprotection). — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 09:21, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
::Since you didn't object to change reason, just the method of how I went about requesting it, I wish you had just completed the requests and messaged me this info instead of declining them (because now I need to reference this conversation to confirm I'm not adminshopping on MastCell's and on Versageek's). But I will proceed with AERs on the talk pages for the remaining 5 protected pages with this error in User: space per your request of method used. Thank you for the reply. [[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] ([[User talk:Zinnober9|talk]]) 23:29, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

== bot and page mover right ==
Hello. I was just wondering, do bots on enwiki have page mover access similar to auto-patrol? (on mrwiki bots have page mover access, but there is no special page-mover or "extended-mover" user-group there). Also, can bots move categories as well? or do they need to get page-mover flag? —usernamekiran [[User talk:usernamekiran|(talk)]] 17:01, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Usernamekiran|Usernamekiran]] you can see all the permissions per group here: [[Special:ListGroupRights]]; if we have an approved bot that also needs something else, we usually just add the bot to additional groups. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:57, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
::thanks. I looked at [[WP:User access levels]], but I couldn't find the info there. ListGrouRights had that info. Apparently, bots are not added to "page movers" by default, but they can move category pages. Thanks again, —usernamekiran [[User talk:usernamekiran|(talk)]] 18:11, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Usernamekiran|Usernamekiran]] Comparing Page Movers to Bots, bots do not have: move, delete-redirect, move-subpages, or tboverride. However in practice bots will generally also be in the autoconfirmed group, so they would pick up "move" from there. If a bot needed some of the other permissions, for example [[Special:UserRights/ProcBot]], it will also be added to other groups. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:34, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

== Upload rights ==

Hi Xaosflux. I was hoping to upload an updated version of [[:File:South Moravian Region CoA CZ.svg]] to Commons (per the request in the description), but it appears I don't have the requisite set of rights to do so. Could I kindly request the right to upload a newer version of that file on Commons? Much appreciated! [[User:Algum|Algum]] ([[User talk:Algum|talk]]) 09:02, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Algum|Algum]] go to [[:commons:File:South_Moravian_Region_CoA_CZ.svg]], check to make sure you are still logged in, then there is an upload new version control. If that isn't working, you will have to ask for help on commonswiki, perhaps here: [[commons:Commons:Help_desk]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:36, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

::Hmm, I still cannot overwrite the file, unfortunately. I will ask for help on Commons, thank you! [[User:Algum|Algum]] ([[User talk:Algum|talk]]) 18:32, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

== Hello ==

Hi,I am anonymous user. [[User:बॉट|बॉट]] has also added a description of Bangladesh Congress President [[Shirin Sharmin Chaudhury]] as acting president, even though he has not served as president.Others have added English to the official language of Equatorial Guinea. Other notes were added that [[Muhammad Ahmad Mahgoub]], the Prime Minister of the Republic of Sudan, had served as President after I confirmed that he had never served as President. please pay attention to बॉट. By the way, it has progressed to an editing war. Please really help me. [[User:240F:31:3402:1:44C6:DFA8:21CE:17C0|240F:31:3402:1:44C6:DFA8:21CE:17C0]] ([[User talk:240F:31:3402:1:44C6:DFA8:21CE:17C0|talk]]) 06:32, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

:To report a disruptive user, please see [[WP:ANI]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
{{cot|bot-related nonsense}}
:Another good way to bypass IP ban is to simply get a new IP address. One way to do this is to use a trusted proxy or VPN service, which will mask your IP address and your apparent internet connection.
:The most common scenario of getting blocked by your server is trying to log in too quickly or with the wrong credentials too many times. Setting a time limit for the number of login attempts in most servers [[User:बॉट|बॉट]] ([[User talk:बॉट|talk]]) 07:09, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

In this article, we'll examine IP bans in-depth and provide you with some helpful tips on how to prevent them [[User:बॉट|बॉट]] ([[User talk:बॉट|talk]]) 07:14, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

:What are you talking about.[[User:240F:31:3402:1:44C6:DFA8:21CE:17C0|240F:31:3402:1:44C6:DFA8:21CE:17C0]] ([[User talk:240F:31:3402:1:44C6:DFA8:21CE:17C0|talk]]) 06:32, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

IPv6 पते को IPv4 पते में बदलने का कोई तरीका (*) नहीं है क्योंकि उन दो प्रणालियों का स्वतंत्र रूप से उपयोग किया जाता है। (* बहुत ही विशेष मामलों को छोड़कर जो बहुत कम ही लागू होते हैं, नीचे देखें।)
आप वास्तव में IPv6 पते को IPv4 पते में क्यों बदलना चाहते हैं? बेहतर समझ के लिए एक मोटा सादृश्य लैंडलाइन बनाम मोबाइल फोन हो सकता है। कुछ लोगों के पास दोनों हो सकते हैं और आप उन तक पहुंचने के लिए उनके निर्दिष्ट नंबर (आईपी पते) दोनों का उपयोग कर सकते हैं, कुछ लोगों के पास केवल एक मोबाइल फोन है और कोई लैंडलाइन नहीं है (या इसके विपरीत)। आप IPv4 और IPv6 पतों की तरह एक लैंडलाइन नंबर को एक मोबाइल नंबर में "रूपांतरित" नहीं कर सकते हैं और इसके विपरीत।
वे "6to4 नोटेशन" और "IPv4-मैप्ड नोटेशन" IPv6 के शुरुआती समय से विशेष उपयोग के मामलों के बारे में हैं। IPv4 लिंक पर IPv6 को टनल करने के लिए 6to4 संकेतन का उपयोग किया गया था, और IPv4- मैप किए गए संकेतन का उपयोग IPv6 नोड्स को IPv4-केवल नोड्स का प्रतिनिधित्व करने के लिए आंतरिक प्रतिनिधित्व उद्देश्यों के लिए किया जाता है। ऐसा कुछ भी नहीं है जो आपके लिए मददगार हो।
आपके उद्देश्यों के लिए, लंबे IPv6 पते पुराने, छोटे IPv4 पतों की तरह ही हैं। वे एक ही उद्देश्य की पूर्ति करते हैं, वे बहुत बड़ी पता सीमा के कारण अधिक लंबे होते हैं। [[User:बॉट|बॉट]] ([[User talk:बॉट|talk]]) 07:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
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== Remembering password when IP is blocked ==

Hello Xaos!

In one of my wikiworkshops some weeks ago I remember encountering a rather unexpected behavior in 2 of my attendees: They had forgotten the password and were trying to go through the "I forgot the password" method to log in with the email method. However they weren't being allowed to go through with that because apparently the IP they were using was part of an IP range block. I've tried researching a bit about this phenomenon around meanwhile but couldn't find much information. Is this a well-known thing? Is it "accepted"? It looked rather disturbing to me that one basically may lose control of their account if they have forgotten their password and had the bad luck of being part of an IP range block. Of course, one may ask an exemption and then go through with that but people who have forgotten passwords usually aren't that calm and no new user really knows how and where to ask for an exemption because they don't understand what's going on in the first place, or as they put it, "why was I blocked???". In my case both users ended up opening a new account straight away, without even letting me time to intervene and help. - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 09:29, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] it is the expected behavior. There has a been a little bit of discussion about changing it in [[phab:T109909]], mostly stalled that there would need to be a global discussion in support. Password reset requests may be used to harass other users. It most cases, IP range blocks aren't "anonymous only" - meaning they won't be able to contribute even if they did log in. There are a few workarounds: (a) if the user has access to a non-blocked range, they can use that. (b) if the block is only on one project, they could use another project to do the reset (not useful for global ip blocks). (c) they could request someone else reset their password for them via off-wiki channels such as VRT or UTRS. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:59, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
::I see... Unfortunately none of those options work for new users. They literally have no idea what's going on on the first place; I'd need to write novellas as system messages to explain to them what IP editing is, what IP range blocks are and how, because of technical reasons, they somehow can't request a password change, which maybe I would but that would kind of defeat the purpose of the block as it would come paired with instructions on how to evade it. ([[Security through obscurity]] is not the best way but it has been working for us in this matter.)<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>In the last 5 years, we have had only 1 IP range block active (we have discussed about it together in the past, if you remember). It is annonymous only. That has been enough for me to get contacted every 2-3 months on my social medias privately by random users who get the message "You are blocked by Klein Muçi" and get confused a lot when they see it. It takes me around 45 minutes to explain what IP editing and IP range blocks are and how they can solve what they're experiencing by just logging in (or creating an account), considering that the block is anonymous only. With the added variable of the blocked password reset the task becomes almost impossible, especially when considering people of a rather old age that have difficulties to use the computer to begin with.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>And we're talking only about people that actually put in the effort to track me down online. There are many, many users that just give up as soon as they see the block message. This is a problem of IP range blocks themselves but the password thing makes it worse.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>But anyway, I'll have to continue this conversation on the phab task, you already helped me in the right direction. Thank you!<span id="Klein_Muçi:1685952896388:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 08:14, 5 June 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] yup, personally I think that we probably should either split that, or tie it to the "account creation" block flag there. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 09:23, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] if that goes nowhere, may want to bring this up at metawiki. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 09:50, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] just some notes workflow wise: if your ip is blocked and you can't do a password reset, the [[Special:passwordreset]] link shouldn't show on the log in page. Everyone gets the [[MediaWiki:userlogin-helplink2]] link, which goes to [[:mw:Help:Logging in]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:02, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
::::::What would be the general workflow for the Meta request though? Forum post referencing phab task? I've tried posting in Meta before but I've failed acquiring much attention in general.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1685962740790:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 10:59, 5 June 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::::::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] to get anywhere you'd probably need a global [[:meta:Requests for comment]] - specifically asking for some sort of new standard. You could workshop it somewhere and ask for input at [[:meta:Wikimedia Forum]] and various village pumps first. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:20, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Tried with WM Forum. Let's see...<span id="Klein_Muçi:1686041077322:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 08:44, 6 June 2023 (UTC)</span>

== ?? ==
Nice to meet you, Im a anonymous user. I have never created an account.Do you have any questions about me. [[User:240F:31:3402:1:44C6:DFA8:21CE:17C0|240F:31:3402:1:44C6:DFA8:21CE:17C0]] ([[User talk:240F:31:3402:1:44C6:DFA8:21CE:17C0|talk]]) 10:01, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
:You may want to see [[WP:TEAHOUSE]] for help as a new user. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:50, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

== ''The Signpost'': 5 June 2023 ==

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== Remove [[User:Pahunkat]] from mentor list ==

Pahunkat hasn't edited since last year and is not on break. [[Special:ManageMentors]] [[User:Sungodtemple|Sungodtemple]] ([[User talk:Sungodtemple|talk]] &#8226; [[Special:Contributions/Sungodtemple|contribs]]) 01:51, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Sungodtemple|Sungodtemple]] would you please drop [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AGrowth_Team_features%2FMentor_list&preload=Template%3ASubmit+an+edit+request%2Fpreload&action=edit&section=new&editintro=Template%3AEdit+protected%2Feditintro&preloadtitle=Protected+edit+request+on+5+June+2023&preloadparams%5B%5D=edit+fully-protected&preloadparams%5B%5D=MediaWiki%3AGrowthMentors.json an edit request here] for this; I or someone will get to it. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 09:27, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

== Administrators' newsletter – June 2023 ==

[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (May 2023).

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[[File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Administrator changes'''
[[File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Administrator changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ingenuity|Ingenuity]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] {{Hlist|class=inline
|[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Red-tailed hawk|Red-tailed hawk]]
|[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Robertsky|Robertsky]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{hlist|class=inline
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|[[Special:PermanentLink/1156929596#Resignation as Administrator|Ddstretch]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{Hlist|class=inline
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1152612226#Request|Prodego]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1152891429#Admin privileges (Resolute)|Resolute]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1198163833#Desysop|Ameliorate!]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1193155124#Desysop (Ancheta Wis)|Ancheta Wis]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1193949086#Deceased administrator, Anthony Bradbury|Anthony Bradbury]] ([[Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/2024#Anthony Bradbury (Anthony Bradbury)|deceased]])
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192900858#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2024#January 2024|Cobi]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1192900858#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2024#January 2024|Ev]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1194493000#Desysop request for Moondyne|Moondyne]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1194569776#Desysop for WTT|Worm That Turned]]
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[[File:Wikipedia bureaucrat.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Bureaucrat changes'''
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:Permalink/1194752334#Desysop for WTT|Worm That Turned]]

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[[File:Checkuser Logo.svg|20px|alt=]] '''CheckUser changes'''
[[File:Checkuser Logo.svg|20px|alt=]] '''CheckUser changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1154948881#Change to the Checkuser team|Courcelles]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:Diff/1201048570#Change to the CheckUser team, January 2024|Wugapodes]]


[[File:Wikipedia Interface administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Interface administrator changes'''
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{Hlist|class=inline
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1200495852#Inactive interface administrators 2024-01-28|Enterprisey]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1193040631#Remove INTADMIN from Izno|Izno]]
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[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
* An [[Wikipedia talk:Interface administrators#RFC: Increase inactivity requirement|RfC]] about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.
* Following [[Special:Permalink/1155694672#RfC on a procedural community desysop|an RfC]], editors indefinitely site-banned by [[WP:CBAN|community consensus]] will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
* As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's [[m:IP Masking|IP Masking]] project, a [[foundation:Policy:Access to temporary account IP addresses|new policy has been created]] that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An [[m:Access to temporary account IP addresses FAQ|associated FAQ]] has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.


[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
* Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. ({{phab|T326065}})
* Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of [[m:IP masking|IP masking]]. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until ''at least'' October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Wikipedia until some time in 2024.


[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
* Following a [[Special:Permalink/1193639157#Motion: Reliable source consensus-required restriction|motion]], the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
* The arbitration case ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland|World War II and the history of Jews in Poland]]'' has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.
* Community feedback is [[Special:Permalink/1200584793#Feedback requested for AE's "Information for administrators" section|requested]] for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at [[WP:AE]].


[[File:Info Simple bw.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Miscellaneous'''
[[File:Info Simple bw.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Miscellaneous'''
* Voting in the [[:meta:Stewards/Elections 2024|2024 Steward elections]] will begin on 06 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 27 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC). The [[:meta:Stewards/Confirm/2024|confirmation process]] of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically [https://meta.toolforge.org/accounteligibility/70 check your eligibility] to vote.
* Following [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy/Proposed amendment (May 2023)|a community referendum]], the [[WP:ARBPOL|arbitration policy]] has been modified to remove the ability for users to appeal remedies to {{noping|Jimbo Wales}}.
* A vote to '''ratify the charter for the [[:m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C)]]''' is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via [[:m:Special:SecurePoll/vote/395|Secure Poll]]. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found [[:m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter/Voter information|here]].
* Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the [[:m:Community Wishlist Survey|Community Wishlist Survey]]. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. [[:m:Community Wishlist Survey#January 4, 2024: Shaping the Future of the Community Wishlist Survey|Read more]]
* The [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/February 2024|Unreferenced articles backlog drive]] is happening in February 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{tl|Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/February 2024|'''Sign up to participate!''']]


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== Tech News: 2023-23 ==
== SWMT ==


Dear Xaosflux, Hi and can you add my [[:m:User:Aviram7~alt|alternative]] account's name on SWMT Whitelist on per my request.😊~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 14:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2023/23|Translations]] are available.


:That seems fine, but I don't normally deal with that - can you link me to the whitelist page you are referencing? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
'''Recent changes'''
* The [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:RealMe|RealMe]] extension allows you to mark URLs on your user page as verified for Mastodon and similar software.
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] Citation and footnote editing can now be started from the reference list when using the visual editor. This feature request was [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Citations/Allow citations to be edited in the references section with VisualEditor|voted #2 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54750]
* Previously, clicking on someone else's link to Recent Changes with filters applied within the URL could unintentionally change your preference for "{{int:Rcfilters-group-results-by-page}}". This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202916#8874081]


::Dear Xaosflux, thanks for reply, <s>I've sending you an screenshort of SWMT whitelist</s> My this account is added by mahler on my request before 1 year. 😊~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 14:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
'''Problems'''
:::Sorry, I don't understand exactly what you are asking. Is there a page you want me to edit? If so, please provide a link. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* For a few days last week, some tools and bots returned outdated information due to database replication problems, and may have been down entirely while it was being fixed. These issues have now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337446]


::::Dear Xaosflux,I'm talking about the whitelist that [[:m:Small Wiki Monitoring Team]] looks like, which can only be put on the list by stewards, Bureucrats or administrators, you see at the top a picture of a Small Wiki Monitoring Team I see, I understand by giving you an example-On whitelist added by loftyabyss: No reason reason. 😊~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 14:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
'''Changes later this week'''
:::::@[[User:Aviram7|Aviram7]] if you don't give me a link to list you want me to edit, I can't do anything for you. If you don't know this, please follow up at [[:meta:Talk:Small Wiki Monitoring Team]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:11, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.12|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-06-06|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-06-07|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-06-08|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* Bots will no longer be prevented from making edits because of URLs that match the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:SpamBlacklist|spam blacklist]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T313107]


:::::Ok, I'm ready to following you as you on [[:meta:Talk:Small Wiki Monitoring Team]]. 😊~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 15:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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== AN/I report ==
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Hi, [[User:GoutComplex]] has been reported at AN/I [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27 noticeboard/Incidents#User:GoutComplex's noncompliance with WP:RS|here]] and a month ago [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1145#Use of sources by User:GoutComplex|here]], but neither the user or any admin have responded. I think that the user's continuing use of poor sources is a problem and that they should be encouraged to respond to the advice on [[User talk:GoutComplex]]. I have added some diffs to the latest report. Do you agree or am I expecting too much from them? I posted here because you were on the list of recently active admins. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 15:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
== Request Regarding Global Usurpation ==


:@[[User:TSventon|TSventon]] I'm not familiar with this issue and don't have time to work on it now. Other patrolling admins at ANI will check on it for you. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Xaosflux, can I email you about a special request involving global usurps? [[User:Les Yper-Sound|Les Yper-Sound]] ([[User talk:Les Yper-Sound|talk]]) 22:02, 6 June 2023 (UTC)


::Thank you, I fear that patrolling admins at AN/I have already indicated by their silence that they do not see a major problem. On the other hand, GoutComplex joined the AN/I discussion shortly after I mentioned them on your talk page. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 15:59, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Les Yper-Sound|Les Yper-Sound]] sure, though I may refer you to renamers@wikimedia.org or somewhere. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 22:17, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
::Understood. Thanks! [[User:Les Yper-Sound|Les Yper-Sound]] ([[User talk:Les Yper-Sound|talk]]) 23:41, 6 June 2023 (UTC)


== Image requested template ==
== Tech News: 2024-06 ==


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Hi, I saw you were one of the main contributors to the '''{{'''[[Template:Photo requested|Photo requested]]'''}}''' template. I'm new to templates so was hoping you could help me with something. Specifically, adding a parameter for satellite images and adding a category for ''Satellite images requested''. I've been uploading a lot of Sentinel-2 satellite images recently and I'd be nice to have a category for requests. I'm also sending this message to [[User:Swpb|Swpb]]. [[User:PalauanLibertarian|PalauanLibertarian]]<sup>[[User talk:PalauanLibertarian|🗣️]]</sup> 12:45, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2024/06|Translations]] are available.

:@[[User:PalauanLibertarian|PalauanLibertarian]] the place to discuss improvements to that template is [[Template talk:Photo requested]], you could also ask a [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Photography]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:00, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks [[User:PalauanLibertarian|PalauanLibertarian]]<sup>[[User talk:PalauanLibertarian|🗣️]]</sup> 15:27, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

== Tech News: 2023-24 ==

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'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
*The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. If you hear of any problems relating to mobile history usage please point them to [[phab:T353388|the phabricator task]].
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] The content attribution tools [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Who Wrote That?|Who Wrote That?]], [[xtools:authorship|XTools Authorship]], and [[xtools:blame|XTools Blame]] now support the Dutch, German, Hungarian, Indonesian, Japanese, Polish and Portuguese Wikipedias. This was the [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Reading/Extend "Who Wrote That?" tool to more wikis|#7 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334891]
*On most wikis, admins can now block users from making specific actions. These actions are: uploading files, creating new pages, moving (renaming) pages, and sending thanks. The goal of this feature is to allow admins to apply blocks that are adequate to the blocked users' activity. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community health initiative/Partial blocks#action-blocks|Learn more about "action blocks"]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242541][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T280531]
* The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Structured Data Across Wikimedia/Search Improvements#Search Preview panel|Search Preview panel]] has been deployed on four Wikipedias (Catalan, Dutch, Hungarian and Norwegian). The panel will show an image related to the article (if existing), the top sections of the article, related images (coming from MediaSearch on Commons), and eventually the sister projects associated with the article. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T306341]
* The [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:RealMe#Verifying_a_link_on_non-user_pages|RealMe]] extension now allows administrators to verify URLs for any page, for Mastodon and similar software. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T324937]
* The default project license [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimediaannounce-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/7G6XPWZPQFLZ2JANN3ZX6RT4DVUI3HZQ/ has been officially upgraded] to CC BY-SA 4.0. The software interface messages have been updated. Communities should feel free to start updating any mentions of the old CC BY-SA 3.0 licensing within policies and related documentation pages. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T319064]

'''Problems'''
* For three days last month, some Wikipedia pages edited with VisualEditor or DiscussionTools had an unintended <code><nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki></code> (or its localized form) added during an edit. There is [[mw:Parsoid/Deployments/T336101_followup|a listing of affected pages sorted by wiki]], that may still need to be fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T336101]
* Currently, the "{{int:Visualeditor-dialog-meta-categories-defaultsort-label}}" feature in VisualEditor is broken. Existing <code><nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:...}}</nowiki></code> keywords incorrectly appear as missing templates in VisualEditor. Developers are exploring how to fix this. In the meantime, those wishing to edit the default sortkey of a page are advised to switch to source editing. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337398]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] Last week, an update to the delete form may have broken some gadgets or user scripts. If you need to manipulate (empty) the reason field, replace <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>#wpReason</code></bdi> with <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr" style="white-space: nowrap;"><code>#wpReason > input</code></bdi>. See [https://cs.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AGadget-CleanDeleteReasons.js&diff=22859956&oldid=12794189 an example fix]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337809]


'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.13|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-06-13|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-06-14|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-06-15|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.17|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-02-06|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-02-07|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-02-08|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
* Talk pages permalinks that included diacritics and non-Latin script were malfunctioning. This issue is fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T356199]
* VisualEditor will be switched to a new backend on English Wikipedia on Monday, and all other [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki-config/browse/master/dblists/large.dblist large] wikis on Thursday. The change should have no noticeable effect on users, but if you experience any slow loading or other strangeness when using VisualEditor, please report it on the phabricator ticket linked here. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T320529]


'''Future changes'''
'''Future changes'''
* [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/ReferencePreviews#24WPs|24 Wikipedias]] with [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reference_Tooltips|Reference Tooltips]] as a default gadget are encouraged to remove that default flag. This would make [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Reference_Previews|Reference Previews]] the new default for reference popups, leading to a more consistent experience across wikis. For [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/ReferencePreviews#46WPs|46 Wikipedias]] with less than 4 interface admins, the change is already scheduled for mid-February, [[m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/ReferencePreviews#Reference Previews to become the default for previewing references on more wikis.|unless there are concerns]]. The older Reference Tooltips gadget will still remain usable and will override this feature, if it is available on your wiki and you have enabled it in your settings. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/ReferencePreviews#Reference_Previews_to_become_the_default_for_previewing_references_on_more_wikis][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T355312]
* From 5 June to 17 July, the Foundation's [[:mw:Wikimedia Security Team|Security team]] is holding a consultation with contributors regarding a draft policy to govern the use of third-party resources in volunteer-developed gadgets and scripts. Feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome at [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Third-party resources policy|Third-party resources policy]] on meta-wiki.


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== GUTENN MORGAN MEIN GUT FRIENDS ==
== CSS help - section transclusion ==


Hey Xaos! Can you help me with something UI related?
YOU NAME GUD ME NME BED BAD SORRRRY NO ENGLIS HEHE ME NO COOCl [[Special:Contributions/64.90.240.78|64.90.240.78]] ([[User talk:64.90.240.78|talk]]) 12:51, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
:Hallo. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 12:56, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
::Nice German skills Xaosflux, I know a bit myself, Hallo. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] &#124; [[User talk:Zippybonzo|Talk]] (he&#124;him) 16:58, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
:::Danke, Ich lerne. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:18, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


In our Albanian village pump we have these "windows", called "Dritare", which you can check for yourself [[w:sq:WP:Kuvendi|here]], just below the main header. The idea is to have our VP act as a central hub where admins/experienced users can quickly check the main pages of our community through the so-called "windows" and interact with them to solve any issues without having to leave the page. This is achieved through section transclusion and it works rather fine on its own. Been using it for quite some months now. I was recently thinking to enhance it by introducing a new feature: "Non-empty" windows will have red backgrounds to indicate their backlog status and hopefully draw the attention of interested volunteers. Is there a way you think this can be achieved using only CSS? The problem lies on the "non-empty" part because they're never empty per se, having HTML tags and Mediawiki templates in them. I mean "non-empty" as in "not having any sections/issues open". I'm not sure how to handle targeting in this case or if it is even possible. Maybe that's not achievable using only CSS? - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 11:55, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
== ''The Signpost'': 19 June 2023 ==
:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] sorry, can't think of a pure CSS route for that. Also, it looks like you are really transcluding those entire page contents? (e.g. [[:w:sq:Wikipedia:Administrata/Votimet/Kandidatura për administratorë/Kandidatura nga të tjerë]] not just a section of the page) - so page transclusion may be smoother then section tranclusion (which is known to be buggy). As you have these collapsed, I'm assuming you actually want to color the collapsed titles in [[:w:sq:Wikipedia:Kuvendi/Hyrja]]? (Because otherwise the user still would have to bother expanding it to see the 'red' - and at that point they would already be seeing the 'empty'. So that means you'd be stuck with some javascript - to check for the presence of some sub.sub element, then have it change the class of the area to recolor. Short answer: CSS can't do complex conditionals. Potential workaround could be procedural, "when clearing this page, uncomment the {{tl|empty}} line" - which could emmit something. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:27, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
::The reason I went with sections instead of pages is because in that page you linked (admin-related one) the sections are supposed to always be there and that wouldn't show the usual "empty appearance" in the window while also showing the section titles forever in the VP's TOC. And yes, I want the background of the collapsed titles to be red. That's what I thought. Is there a way to have page-related JS instead of utilizing the common.js page? Similar to using page/styles.css for CSS styling? - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 13:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Not yet. But if the target for who needs to see that color change is very low, you could use an opt-in gadget. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:14, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
::::Ah, interesting idea. Hadn't thought of that approach. Well, I guess that answers all my questions. Just one more thing out of personal curiosity: You say "not ''yet''". Am I to understand there are on-going Phab requests about this? Or was it just in the general sense? - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 14:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::[[phab:T241524]] is the closest. If you don't mind a button click, you could make a dashboard that you click a load button on the top of, and it can call a gadget with the load (sort of how this page works: [[WP:MYIP]]). — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:30, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::Hmm... This goes a bit heavily on the gadget element. I was hoping for a more direct approach towards scripts in general. While one might argue that there isn't any difference between the two words, I believe in practice there is. For example, some time ago I was forced to use JS to solve an issue on our main page (removing some pipes and parentheses, we've talked about it together too). It would seem a bit weird to call this script "a gadget" and have it stand aside on the Mediawiki NS. It's just a script used to modify a single accompanying page. Anyway, this is just tangentially related to the topic's discussion.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Thank you for your suggestion! Unfortunately, knowing my community, any form of interaction diminishes the chance for help volunteering. The red background thing was thought precisely after the windows themselves still weren't enough to solve some issues which have been left open for years now. Nonetheless thank you for your help!<span id="Klein_Muçi:1707421978714:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 19:52, 8 February 2024 (UTC)</span>


== ITN recognition for [[Kelvin Kiptum]] ==
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== ''The Signpost'': 13 February 2024 ==
There is a new bullet on account contributions pages:


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• JavaScript-enhanced contributions lookup 0.2 enabled. You may enter a CIDR range or append an asterisk to do a prefix search. For IPv6, you must use capital letters for gadget matching; native contribution matching is not case-sensitive.
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== Tech News: 2024-07 ==
I don't understand what it's for. Was it announced or explained anywhere?--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 13:45, 19 June 2023 (UTC)


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:@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] I'm pretty sure that is coming from an opt-in gadget you have enabled, {{tq|Allow /16, /24 and /27 – /32 CIDR ranges on Special:Contributions forms, as well as wildcard prefix searches (e.g., "Splark*")}} You can turn that of in preferences if you don't want it. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:56, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
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::Probably so, but I'm 99% certain the bullet wasn't there before on named accounts, and fairly certain it wasn't even there on IP contribution pages. I ''do'' use it on IPs to change the single IP contributions to a range, e.g., from 103.73.183.199 to 103.73.183.0/24 by clicking on the "Search for contributions" drop-down and typing in the range. But what would be the purpose of a CIDR range on a named account? And how exactly are you supposed to do a prefix search with an *? Are we talking about something like changing Xaosflux to Xaosflu*, meaning it would find all named account starting with Xaosflu? I kind of do that now but using "User rights" and not using the asterisk, meaning I would just put in Xaosflu, and it should retrieve all accounts starting with that. The gadget isn't new, and I knew I had it enabled as well, but the display is.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 14:05, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] hmm, ok - I can confirm it is coming from that gadget, I don't recall it showing on "named account" contribution pages previously, so this is likely a [[WP:ITSTHURSDAY]] thing. Please report issue at [[MediaWiki talk:Gadget-contribsrange.js]]; it doesn't look like there is an active maintainer for that gadget - but someone may be monitoring that page. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:11, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
::::Okay, I put a pointer to this discussion on that page. Feel free to elaborate there if you wish. Thanks.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 14:24, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
:::::I'm taking it back here for a moment because I don't think others are necessarily interested in my quasi-personal comments. I don't know what has to be done, if anything, to the gadget. My ''suggestion'' is that at least the instructions be clarified. Personally, I don't see the point of using the * feature, but I'll continue to specify CIDR ranges as always. To do that, I must keep the gadget on, which means putting up with the irritating bullet, but I'm sure I'll get over it. :-) --[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 16:26, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
::::::The * feature is really useful for IPV6's — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:01, 19 June 2023 (UTC)


'''Recent changes'''
== Recreating a deleted page ==
* The [[d:Wikidata:SPARQL query service/WDQS graph split|WDQS Graph Split experiment]] is working and loaded onto 3 test servers. The team in charge is testing the split's impact and requires feedback from WDQS users through the UI or programmatically in different channels. [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:SPARQL_query_service/WDQS_graph_split][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T356773][https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Sannita_(WMF)] Users' feedback will validate the impact of various use cases and workflows around the Wikidata Query service. [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_query_service/WDQS_backend_update/October_2023_scaling_update][https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_Query_Service/User_Manual#Federation]


'''Problems'''
Hi, I'd like to re-create a previously deleted page. The article is about a well-known Indian television actress. Please assist.
*There was a bug that affected the appearance of visited links when using mobile device to access wiki sites. It made the links appear black; [[phab:T356928|this issue]] is fixed.

'''Changes later this week'''
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* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] As work continues on the grid engine deprecation,[https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Toolforge_Grid_Engine_deprecation] tools on the grid engine will be stopped starting on February 14th, 2024. If you have tools actively migrating you can ask for an extension so they are not stopped. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portal:Toolforge/About_Toolforge#Communication_and_support]


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==[[:Category:Spree killers]] has been nominated for merging==


<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg|48px|alt=|link=]]</div>[[:Category:Spree killers]] has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the [[Wikipedia:Categorization|categorization]] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at '''[[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 18#Category:Spree killers|the category's entry]]''' on the [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion|categories for discussion]] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. [[User:PARAKANYAA|PARAKANYAA]] ([[User talk:PARAKANYAA|talk]]) 15:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Arjunsoumithran|Arjunsoumithran]] the history of that page had half of one sentence on it, not worth recovering. However you are welcome to start an article on that subject. If you follow [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&create=Create+new+article+draft&editintro=Template%3AAfC+draft+editintro&preload=Template%3AAfc+preload%2Fdraft&summary=--+Draft+creation+using+the+%5B%5BWP%3AArticle+wizard%5D%5D+--&title=Draft%3AIndira+Krishnan <u>'''this link'''</u>] it will help you get started. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:05, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you very much for helping me. [[User:Arjunsoumithran|Arjunsoumithran]] ([[User talk:Arjunsoumithran|talk]]) 18:15, 19 June 2023 (UTC)


== Tech News: 2023-25 ==
== Tech News: 2024-08 ==


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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2024/08|Translations]] are available.


'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* If you have the "{{int:Tog-enotifwatchlistpages}}" option enabled, edits by bot accounts no longer trigger notification emails. Previously, only minor edits would not trigger the notification emails. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T356984]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] Flame graphs are now available in WikimediaDebug. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/JXNQD3EHG5V5QW5UXFDPSHQG4MJ3FWJQ/][https://techblog.wikimedia.org/2023/06/08/flame-graphs-arrive-in-wikimediadebug/]
* There are changes to how user and site scripts load for [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Vector/2022| Vector 2022]] on specific wikis. The changes impacted the following Wikis: all projects with [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Vector|Vector legacy]] as the default skin, Wikivoyage, and Wikibooks. Other wikis will be affected over the course of the next three months. Gadgets are not impacted. If you have been affected or want to minimize the impact on your project, see [[Phab:T357580| this ticket]]. Please coordinate and take action proactively.
*Newly auto-created accounts (the accounts you get when you visit a new wiki) now have the same local notification preferences as users who freshly register on that wiki. It is effected in four notification types listed in the [[phab:T353225|task's description]].
*The maximum file size when using [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Upload_Wizard|Upload Wizard]] is now 5 GiB. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191804]


'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.19|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-02-20|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-02-21|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-02-22|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
* There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
* There is now a toolbar search popup in the visual editor. You can trigger it by typing <code>\</code> or pressing <code>ctrl + shift + p</code>. It can help you quickly access most tools in the editor. [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Visual_editor_toolbar_search_feature.png][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66905]


* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] Selected tools on the grid engine have been [[wikitech:News/Toolforge_Grid_Engine_deprecation|stopped]] as we prepare to shut down the grid on March 14th, 2024. The tool's code and data have not been deleted. If you are a maintainer and you want your tool re-enabled reach out to the [[wikitech:Portal:Toolforge/About_Toolforge#Communication_and_support|team]]. Only tools that have asked for extension are still running on the grid.
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* The CSS <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>[https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/filter filter]</code></bdi> property can now be used in HTML <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>style</code></bdi> attributes in wikitext. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308160]
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* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The Action API modules and Special:LinkSearch will now add a trailing <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>/</code></bdi> to all <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>prop=extlinks</code></bdi> responses for bare domains. This is part of the work to remove duplication in the <code>externallinks</code> database table. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337994]


== Hey there! Could you help me? ==
'''Problems'''
* Last week, search was broken on Commons and Wikidata for 23 hours. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T339810][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incidents/2023-06-18_search_broken_on_wikidata_and_commons]


I have made a phylogeny tree for [[Jaklapallisaurus]] but I'm facing a couple problems:
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.15|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-06-27|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-06-28|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-06-29|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The Minerva skin now applies more predefined styles to the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>.mbox-text</code></bdi> CSS class. This enables support for mbox templates that use divs instead of tables. Please make sure that the new styles won't affect other templates in your wiki. [https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/skins/MinervaNeue/+/930901/][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T339040]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] Gadgets will now load on both desktop and mobile by default. Previously, gadgets loaded only on desktop by default. Changing this default using the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>|targets=</code></bdi> parameter is also deprecated and should not be used. You should make gadgets work on mobile or disable them based on the skin (with the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>|skins=</code></bdi> parameter in <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition</bdi>) rather than whether the user uses the mobile or the desktop website. Popular gadgets that create errors on mobile will be disabled by developers on the Minerva skin as a temporary solution. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127268]
* All namespace tabs now have the same browser [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Keyboard_shortcuts|access key]] by default. Previously, custom and extension-defined namespaces would have to have their access keys set manually on-wiki, but that is no longer necessary. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T22126]
* The review form of the Flagged Revisions extension now uses the standardized [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Codex|user interface components]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191156]


1) I've tried SO HARD lol to get the basal most genus to be bagualosaurus but it doesn't show up :/
'''Future changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] How media is structured in the parser's HTML output will change in the coming weeks at [[:wikitech:Deployments/Train#Thursday|group2 wikis]]. This change improves the accessibility of content. You may need to update your site-CSS, or userscripts and gadgets. There are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Parsoid/Parser_Unification/Media_structure/FAQ|details on what code to check, how to update the code, and where to report any related problems]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T314318]


2) "Massopoda" should be sister to unaysauridae + plateosauridae BUT it doesn't wanna budge :/ it's right now sister to unaysauridae only [[User:DNB XD|DNB XD]] ([[User talk:DNB XD|talk]]) 14:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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:@[[User:DNB XD|DNB XD]] I'm not very familiar with that template, however you need to avoid duplicating template variable values inside each template call (the x=y part). For example, you have {{tl|clade}} being used, but have multiple "1=x" on the same entry. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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::Oh, thank you! [[User:DNB XD|DNB XD]] ([[User talk:DNB XD|talk]]) 02:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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'''Recent changes'''
== CSS question ==
* The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor_on_mobile|mobile visual editor]] is now the default editor for users who never edited before, at a small group of wikis. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor_on_mobile/VE_mobile_default#A/B_test_results| Research ]] shows that users using this editor are slightly more successful publishing the edits they started, and slightly less successful publishing non-reverted edits. Users who defined the wikitext editor as their default on desktop will get the wikitext editor on mobile for their first edit on mobile as well. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T352127]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/ResourceLoader/Core modules#mw.config|mw.config]] value <code>wgGlobalGroups</code> now only contains groups that are active in the wiki. Scripts no longer have to check whether the group is active on the wiki via an API request. A code example of the above is: <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>if (/globalgroupname/.test(mw.config.get("wgGlobalGroups")))</code></bdi>. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T356008]


'''Changes later this week'''
Hi!
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.20|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-02-27|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-02-28|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-02-29|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]


'''Future changes'''
Can you take a quick look at SqWiki's main page? The body is made up of 4 blocks which can have dynamic content (especially the 2 on the left side of it). Is there a way I can make them be always aligned with CSS? (Maybe by making them auto-increase the padding around content on the smallest blocks to match the content on the bigger blocks?) - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 10:08, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
* The right to change [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Tags|edit tags]] (<bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>changetags</code></bdi>) will be removed from users in Wikimedia sites, keeping it by default for admins and bots only. Your community can ask to retain the old configuration on your wiki before this change happens. Please indicate in [[phab:T355639|this ticket]] to keep it for your community before the end of March 2024.
:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] do you mean the vertical alignment of the left 2 with the right 2, such that they are a grid while they are in a 2x2 format? (Do you want the boxes to grown larger with a bunch of whitespace at the bottom of some of them if their side neighbor is much larger?) — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:20, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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::Yes. Maybe the whitespace can be evenly distributed on both sides, top and bottom. Whatever is better for the eyes, really. I've tried reading around about finding a way on how to achieve this but I haven't been able to find much so I haven't tested anything to know what would work better visually.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1687947917337:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 10:25, 28 June 2023 (UTC)</span>
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:::@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] I don't know of any "quick" answers to this. Suggest you build a VERY simple page with just 4 squares of various heights, a basic css, load the page with a ?withcss type argument --- so that you get a working sandbox not also tied in to everything else on the main page, then you could ask over at [[WP:VPT]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:37, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
::::Okay, I will do that if I find the time to recreate that environment. Thank you for letting me know! {{Smiley|:-)}} -<span id="Klein_Muçi:1687949832063:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 10:57, 28 June 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::I suggest searching online for references on CSS grid. As per the name, it's the best way to layout elements in a grid ;-). [[User:Isaacl|isaacl]] ([[User talk:Isaacl|talk]]) 21:46, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


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Only one hour until the voting portion of the Steward elections end! I wanted to give you an early congratulations for the 100% keep ratio. You did a great job last year and I hope you continue with the amazing work! -- [[User:Grapefanatic|<span style="color: #0B0087">Grapefanatic</span>]] ([[User talk:Grapefanatic|<span style="color: #BA0000">Talk</span>]]) 13:14, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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== Administrators' newsletter – March 2024 ==

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[[File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Administrator changes'''
[[File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Administrator changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Novem Linguae|Novem Linguae]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] {{Hlist|class=inline
|[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Sdkb|Sdkb]]
|[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/The Night Watch|The Night Watch]]
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|[[Special:PermanentLink/1157946362#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#June 2023|Deckiller]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{Hlist|class=inline
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1157946362#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#June 2023|Electionworld]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1157946362#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#June 2023|MBisanz]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1201596272#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2024#February 2024|East718]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1210532424#Desysop request (Isabelle Belato)|Isabelle Belato]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1157946362#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#June 2023|Penwhale]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1204281845#Arbitration motion regarding Mzajac|Mzajac]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1157946362#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#June 2023|Raul654]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1157946362#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#June 2023|Roadrunner]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1201596272#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2024#February 2024|Staecker]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1201923983#Desysop request (Stan Shebs)|Stan Shebs]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1157946362#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#June 2023|Viridae]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1157946362#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#June 2023|Yannismarou]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1201596272#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2024#February 2024|Sugarfish]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1208474988#Resignation (Tamzin)|Tamzin]]
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[[File:Wikipedia bureaucrat.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Bureaucrat changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1157946362#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#June 2023|MBisanz]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[m:Special:Permalink/26246943#SilkTork@enwiki|SilkTork]]

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[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
* [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I|Phase I]] of the 2024 [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review|RfA review]] is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the [[WP:RFA|requests for adminship process]].
* Contributions to the English Wikipedia are now released under the [[Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License|Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License]] (CC BY-SA 4.0) license instead of [[Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License|CC BY-SA 3.0]]. Contributions are still also released under the [[Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License|GFDL license]].
* Following [[Special:Permalink/1210946192#RFC: Increase inactivity requirement|an RfC]], the inactivity requirement for the removal of the [[Wikipedia:Interface administrators|interface administrator]] right increased from 6 months to 12 months.


[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
* The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. ({{phab|T353388}})
* [[:meta:Talk:Third-party resources policy|Discussion is open]] regarding a proposed [[:meta:Third-party resources policy|global policy regarding third-party resources]]. Third-party resources are computer resources that reside outside of Wikimedia production websites.


[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
[[File:Info Simple bw.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Miscellaneous'''
* The 2024 appointees for the [[:m:Ombuds commission|Ombuds commission]] are [[m:User:だ*ぜ|だ*ぜ]], [[m:User:AGK|AGK]], [[m:User:Ameisenigel|Ameisenigel]], [[m:User:Bennylin|Bennylin]], [[m:User:Daniuu|Daniuu]], [[m:User:Doǵu|Doǵu]], [[m:User:Emufarmers|Emufarmers]], [[m:User:Faendalimas|Faendalimas]], [[m:User:MdsShakil|MdsShakil]], [[m:User:Minorax|Minorax]], [[m:User:Nehaoua|Nehaoua]], [[m:User:Renvoy|Renvoy]] and [[m:User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] as members, with [[m:User:Vermont|Vermont]] serving as steward-observer.
* Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong|Scottywong]] case and 9 July 2023 for the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/AlisonW|AlisonW]] case.
* Following the [[meta:Stewards/Elections 2024|2024 Steward Elections]], the following editors have been appointed as stewards: [[:meta:Stewards/Elections 2024/Statements/Ajraddatz|Ajraddatz]], [[:meta:Stewards/Elections 2024/Statements/Albertoleoncio|Albertoleoncio]], [[:meta:Stewards/Elections 2024/Statements/EPIC|EPIC]], [[:meta:Stewards/Elections 2024/Statements/JJMC89|JJMC89]], [[:meta:Stewards/Elections 2024/Statements/Johannnes89|Johannnes89]], [[:meta:Stewards/Elections 2024/Statements/Melos|Melos]] and [[:meta:Stewards/Elections 2024/Statements/Yahya|Yahya]].


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== An Official Investigation ==

=== Disappointed ===


== A kitten for you... ==
I want to submit an official investigation into what happened today regarding the two articles [[Draft:Khaled Al Saif]], [[Draft:Sultan Bin Abdulaziz Humanitarian City]] and either the result of the investigation is that I am guilty and I am banned from editing on Wikipedia, or that the editors who treated me disrespectfully apologize to me and take back the article and a clear and frank apology on my talk page.


[[File:Youngkitten.JPG|left|150px]]
What happened was the clear disregard of the editors for people's minds and the use of their absolute power and acting as if Wikipedia belonged to them after fulfilling the conditions for the articles and talking to the help section in Wikipedia, and in the end they agreed with me on the note of the two articles. The editors come here and their words and their dealings differ. '''After advising the user @[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] to apply for a revision of the draft to become an article, he deletes the draft and recklessly thinks about it. Is this a trap or what?''' After adding all the sources they want, he says that this is a paid article. As for the second article, he did not find anything that says except that this article was written by me in a publicity way. Deleting it from the beginning of the post I will not be sad, but I am saddened by the lack of respect he found here. I don't care about the two articles as much as I care about a clear and frank apology.
...for your wonderful work :)


– [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 16:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Here the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User%20talk:Mcmatter answer] from the User and the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#02:56,_2_July_2023_review_of_submission_by_John.GGVV advice] from him. [[User:John.GGVV|John.GGVV]] ([[User talk:John.GGVV|talk]]) 19:38, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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:{{Re|John.GGVV}} Hello. I'm not volunteering to get involved in this matter. Here are some next steps for you: (a) If you have questions about [[WP:CSD|speedy deletions]] the first step is to ask the deleting administrator. You may see this in the [[Special:Log|deletion log]]. Please note, as neither of the users you mentioned above are administrators, neither can delete pages. (b) You may also ask for page restoratio at [[Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion]]. To discuss the new page review process you may ask at [[Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers]]. Best regards, — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:41, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


== ''The Signpost'': 3 July 2023 ==
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== Tech News: 2023-27 ==
== Tech News: 2024-10 ==


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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2023/27|Translations]] are available.
Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2024/10|Translations]] are available.


'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* The <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>Special:Book</code></bdi> page (as well as the associated "Create a book" functionality) provided by the old [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Collection|Collection extension]] has been removed from all Wikisource wikis, as it was broken. This does not affect the ability to download normal books, which is provided by the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Wikisource|Wikisource extension]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T358437]
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] As part of the rolling out of the [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Multimedia and Commons/Audio links that play on click|audio links that play on click]] wishlist proposal, [https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=dblists/small.dblist small wikis] will now be able to use the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Phonos#Inline audio player mode|inline audio player]] that is implemented by the [[mw:Extension:Phonos|Phonos]] extension. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T336763]
* [[m:Wikitech|Wikitech]] now uses the next-generation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Parsoid|Parsoid]] wikitext parser by default to generate all pages in the Talk namespace. Report any problems on the [[mw:Talk:Parsoid/Parser_Unification/Known_Issues|Known Issues discussion page]]. You can use the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:ParserMigration|ParserMigration]] extension to control the use of Parsoid; see the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserMigration|ParserMigration help documentation]] for more details.
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] From this week all gadgets automatically load on mobile and desktop sites. If you see any problems with gadgets on your wikis, please adjust the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Gadgets#Options|gadget options]] in your gadget definitions file. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T328610]
* Maintenance on [https://etherpad.wikimedia.org etherpad] is completed. If you encounter any issues, please indicate in [[phab:T316421|this ticket]].
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=| Advanced item]] [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Gadgets|Gadgets]] allow interface admins to create custom features with CSS and JavaScript. The <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>Gadget</code></bdi> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>Gadget_definition</code></bdi> namespaces and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>gadgets-definition-edit</code></bdi> user right were reserved for an experiment in 2015, but were never used. These were visible on Special:Search and Special:ListGroupRights. The unused namespaces and user rights are now removed. No pages are moved, and no changes need to be made. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31272]
* A usability improvement to the "Add a citation" in Wikipedia workflow has been made, the insert button was moved to the popup header. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T354847]


'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.16|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-07-04|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-07-05|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-07-06|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.21|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-03-05|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-03-06|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-03-07|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]


'''Future changes'''
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* All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 20. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T358233]
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* The HTML markup of headings and section edit links will be changed later this year to improve accessibility. See [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Heading_HTML_changes|Heading HTML changes]] for details. The new markup will be the same as in the new Parsoid wikitext parser. You can test your gadget or stylesheet with the new markup if you add <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>?useparsoid=1</code></bdi> to your URL ([[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserMigration#Selecting_a_parser_using_a_URL_query_string|more info]]) or turn on Parsoid read views in your user options ([[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserMigration#Enabling_via_user_preference|more info]]).
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==New message from Aaron Liu==
Is there a way to see a list of all former administrators, or, better still, all desysopped administrators, or, even more precisely, all desysopped, blocked/banned administrators? I'm trying to remember the username of an admin who was blocked for socking (a good while ago) and, IIRC, said the reason he socked was because he was "bored". I ''think'' the username was a common Anglo-Saxon first name followed by some numbers.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:30, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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[[User:Aaron Liu|<span style="color:#0645ad">Aaron Liu</span>]] ([[User talk:Aaron Liu#top|talk]]) 15:28, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


== Editor experience invitation ==
:@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] Current admins with blocks would show at [[Special:Listusers/sysop]]. For the rest of what you are asking: not programmatically. Locally, we do have records maintained by editors at [[Wikipedia:Former administrators]]. You might be thinking of Edgar181. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 08:17, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
::Yes, Edgar181, I was close, I even thought the username started with an E, but the name that kept sticking in my head was Eric. Thanks! That aside, the first link in your reply just shows current administrators - I don't see how it shows current administrators with blocks. Something I'm missing?--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 13:02, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] on Special:Listusers, anyone that happens to be blocked will have <code>(blocked)</code> listed on their line. There is nothing automatic on-wiki for "list only users that are blocked and are also in group x" - that could be done on quarry. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:50, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
::::As far as I can tell, unsurprisingly, none of them is blocked. "Quarry"?--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 17:54, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] a database query tool, example output (only good for 1 day from now) [https://quarry.wmcloud.org/query/33102 here]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:34, 4 July 2023 (UTC)


Hi Xaosflux :) I'm looking for people to interview [[User:Clovermoss/Editor reflections|here]]. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 17:15, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
== A barnstar for you ==


== Tech News: 2024-11 ==
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | I don't remember whether I've ever given you a barnstar before; if not, it's long overdue. Thank you so much for helping me time and time again, as well as helping many other users.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 17:19, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
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== Tech News: 2023-28 ==
Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2024/11|Translations]] are available.

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2023/28|Translations]] are available.

'''Recent changes'''
* The [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Structured Data Across Wikimedia/Section-level Image Suggestions|Section-level Image Suggestions feature]] has been deployed on seven Wikipedias (Portuguese, Russian, Indonesian, Catalan, Hungarian, Finnish and Norwegian Bokmål). The feature recommends images for articles on contributors' watchlists that are a good match for individual sections of those articles.
* [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Global AbuseFilter|Global abuse filters]] have been enabled on all Wikimedia projects, except English and Japanese Wikipedias (who opted out). This change was made following a [[:m:Requests for comment/Make global abuse filters opt-out|global request for comments]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T341159]
* [[{{#special:BlockedExternalDomains}}]] is a new tool for administrators to help fight spam. It provides a clearer interface for blocking plain domains (and their subdomains), is more easily searchable, and is faster for the software to process for each edit on the wiki. It does not support regex (for complex cases), nor URL path-matching, nor the [[MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist|MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist]], but otherwise it replaces most of the functionalities of the existing [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist|MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]]. There is a Python script to help migrate all simple domains into this tool, and more feature details, within [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:BlockedExternalDomains|the tool's documentation]]. It is available at all wikis except for Meta-wiki, Commons, and Wikidata. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337431]
* The WikiEditor extension was updated. It includes some of the most frequently used features of wikitext editing. In the past, many of its messages could only be translated by administrators, but now all regular translators on translatewiki can translate them. Please check [https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:MessageGroupStats?group=ext-wikieditor&messages=&x=D#sortable:0=asc the state of WikiEditor localization into your language], and if the "Completion" for your language shows anything less than 100%, please complete the translation. See [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/D4YELU2DXMZ75PGELUOKXXMFF3FH45XA/ a more detailed explanation].


'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
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* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.22|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-03-12|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-03-13|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-03-14|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
* After consulting with various communities, the line height of the text on the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Minerva Neue|Minerva skin]] will be increased to its previous value of 1.65. Different options for typography can also be set using the options in the menu, as needed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T358498]
* The default protocol of [[{{#special:LinkSearch}}]] and API counterparts has changed from http to both http and https. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T14810]
*The active link color in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Minerva Neue|Minerva]] will be changed to provide more consistency with our other platforms and best practices. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T358516]
* [[{{#special:LinkSearch}}]] and its API counterparts will now search for all of the URL provided in the query. It used to be only the first 60 characters. This feature was requested fifteen years ago. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T17218]
* [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Structured data|Structured data on Commons]] will no longer ask whether you want to leave the page without saving. This will prevent the “information you’ve entered may not be saved” popups from appearing when no information have been entered. It will also make file pages on Commons load faster in certain cases. However, the popups will be hidden even if information has indeed been entered. If you accidentally close the page before saving the structured data you entered, that data will be lost. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T312315]


'''Future changes'''
'''Future changes'''
* All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 20. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T358233][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server_switch]
* There is an experiment with a [[:w:en:ChatGPT|ChatGPT]] plugin. This is to show users where the information is coming from when they read information from Wikipedia. It has been tested by Wikimedia Foundation staff and other Wikimedians. Soon all ChatGPT plugin users can use the Wikipedia plugin. This is the same plugin which was mentioned in [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2023/20|Tech News 2023/20]]. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2023-2024/Draft/Future_Audiences#FA2.2_Conversational_AI]
* There is an ongoing discussion on a [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Third-party resources policy|proposed Third-party resources policy]]. The proposal will impact the use of third-party resources in gadgets and userscripts. Based on the ideas received so far, policy includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, some best practices and exemption requirements such as code transparency and inspectability. Your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on [[m:Talk:Third-party resources policy|on the policy talk page]].


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== RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I ==
== Feedback request: Wikipedia policies and guidelines request for comment ==


Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review|2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review]] is now '''no longer accepting new proposals'''. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship|RfA]]'s structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:
[[File:Internet-group-chat.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]]Your feedback is requested &#32;at [[Talk:Sergei Starostin#rfc_3BFB675|'''Talk:Sergei Starostin'''&#32; on a "Wikipedia policies and guidelines" request for comment]]. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of [[WP:FRS|Feedback Request Service]] subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by [[WP:FRS|removing your name]].</small> <!-- Template:FRS notification --><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> Message delivered to you with love by [[User:Yapperbot|Yapperbot]] :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact [[User talk:Naypta|my bot operator]]. &#124; Sent at 05:30, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 2: Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA|Proposal 2]]''', initiated by {{noping|HouseBlaster}}, provides for the addition of a text box at [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship]] reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
== Feedback request: Wikipedia policies and guidelines request for comment ==
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 3: Add three days of discussion before voting (trial)|Proposals 3]]''' and '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 3b: Make the first two days discussion-only (trial)|3b]]''', initiated by {{noping|Barkeep49}} and {{noping|Usedtobecool}}, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 4: Prohibit threaded discussion (trial)|Proposal 5]]''', initiated by {{noping|SilkTork}}, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal 6c: Provisional adminship via sortition (admin nomination)|Proposals 6c]]''' and '''[[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal 6d: Provisional adminship via sortition (criteria to be determined)|6d]]''', initiated by {{noping|BilledMammal}}, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 7: Threaded General Comments|Proposal 7]]''', initiated by {{noping|Lee Vilenski}}, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 9b: Require links for claims of specific policy violations|Proposal 9b]]''', initiated by {{noping|Reaper Eternal}}, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 12c: Lower the high end of the bureaucrats' discretionary zone from 75% to 70%|Proposals 12c]]''', '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 21: Reduce threshold of consensus at RfA|21]]''', and '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 21b: Slightly reduce threshold of consensus at RfA|21b]]''', initiated by {{noping|City of Silver}}, {{u|Ritchie333}}, and {{u|HouseBlaster}}, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 13: Admin elections|Proposal 13]]''', initiated by {{noping|Novem Lingaue}}, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 14: Suffrage requirements|Proposal 14]]''', initiated by {{noping|Kusma}}, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 16: Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs|Proposals 16]]''' and '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 16c: Community recall process based on dewiki|16c]]''', initiated by {{noping|Thebiguglyalien}} and {{noping|Soni}}, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard|administrators' noticeboard]]; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 16e: Allow the community to initiate recall RfBs|Proposal 16e]]''', initiated by {{noping|BilledMammal}}, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 17: Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions|Proposal 17]]''', initiated by {{noping|SchroCat}}, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 18: Normalize the RfB consensus requirements|Proposal 18]]''', initiated by {{noping|theleekycauldron}}, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 24: Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process|Proposal 24]]''', initiated by {{noping|SportingFlyer}}, provides for a more robust alternate version of the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll|optional candidate poll]].
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 25: Require nominees to be extended confirmed|Proposal 25]]''', initiated by {{noping|Femke}}, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 27: Introduce training/periodic retraining for admins|Proposal 27]]''', initiated by {{noping|WereSpielChequers}}, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
* '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 28: limiting multi-part questions|Proposal 28]]''', initiated by {{noping|HouseBlaster}}, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.


To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals]]. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! [[user:theleekycauldron|theleekycauldron]] ([[User talk:Theleekycauldron|talk]] • she/her), via:
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@[[User:Samral|Samral]] is a sockpuppet pls remove extendedconfirmed rights. @[[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]] [[Special:Contributions/151.135.11.200|151.135.11.200]] ([[User talk:151.135.11.200|talk]]) 13:01, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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:We don't need to bother removing groups from blocked users. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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::He annoys me and other users by cursing at you via email. Can you please turn off the email sending feature? [[Special:Contributions/176.218.17.226|176.218.17.226]] ([[User talk:176.218.17.226|talk]]) 14:06, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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::::I didn't log in so my username wouldn't show up. Pls turn off email sending. He's a sockpuppet and has no place here anymore. [[Special:Contributions/176.218.17.226|176.218.17.226]] ([[User talk:176.218.17.226|talk]]) 14:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] We are now serving 1% of all global user traffic from [[:en:Kubernetes|Kubernetes]] (you can [[wikitech:MediaWiki On Kubernetes|read more technical details]]). We are planning to increment this percentage regularly. You can [[phab:T290536|follow the progress of this work]].

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.18|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-07-18|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-07-19|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-07-20|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] MediaWiki [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:System_message|system messages]] will now look for available local fallbacks, instead of always using the default fallback defined by software. This means wikis no longer need to override each language on the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Language#Fallback_languages|fallback chain]] separately. For example, English Wikipedia doesn't have to create <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>en-ca</code></bdi> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>en-gb</code></bdi> subpages with a transclusion of the base pages anymore. This makes it easier to maintain local overrides. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229992]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>action=growthsetmentorstatus</code></bdi> API will be deprecated with the new MediaWiki version. Bots or scripts calling that API should use the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>action=growthmanagementorlist</code></bdi> API now. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T321503]

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== Community Configuration 2.0 ==

Hello xaosflux

I’m contacting you as you edited Growth features configuration in the past, using [[Special:EditGrowthConfig]]. This page is visible to anyone, but only a selected group of users can edit it and configure Growth features

The Growth team plans to create a [[mw:Community_configuration_2.0|Community Configuration 2.0]], based on Special:EditGrowthConfig.

This new feature will allow local administrators to change settings for Wikimedia Foundation-designed features. This way, they can configure the different features to best suit their wiki’s specific needs. This strategy eliminates the technical barrier for admins, to customize local settings. This also encourages a more inclusive and collaborative product development process.

But, there are currently two primary limitations to Community Configuration:

* Discoverability: Many Administrators are unaware of the existence of Community Configuration.
* Usage Scope: At present, only the Growth features can use Community Configuration.

We plan to integrate Community configuration into MediaWiki, as a default feature. Other Wikimedia Foundation teams and volunteer developers will be able to create Community configurable features. We expect this central place to be more discoverable.

Before the Growth team starts this project, we are seeking feedback, to guide our efforts in the right direction. We are particularly interested in your thoughts on the following:

# How do you feel about more Wikimedia Foundation features that can be configured (enabled, disabled, edited) by Administrators?
#* Do you have any reservations or concerns about this idea?
# What can we do to ensure that all Administrators are well-informed about Community Configuration?
# How confident are Administrators in making changes using Community Configuration?
# Based on your experience editing Special:EditGrowthConfig, are any parts of the procedure unclear or ambiguous?
# Community Configuration should be visible to all. Should it only be modifiable by a select group of experienced Wikimedians?
# Should all configuration options be only editable by Administrators and interface administrators?
#* Should we consider different user access levels for certain configuration options?
# Out of curiosity, do you have any thoughts on how many edits would be made to this community configuration page each year?

Your insights will be invaluable in shaping the trajectory of this project. We look forward to your constructive feedback!

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

All the best, [[user:Trizek (WMF)|Trizek'''_'''(WMF)]] ([[user talk:Trizek (WMF)|talk]]) 15:37, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

== good source ==

This is a really good website, because I like to type and mess around in this website. [[Special:Contributions/50.219.59.3|50.219.59.3]] ([[User talk:50.219.59.3|talk]]) 15:37, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

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== Terms of Use related changes ==

Hi, I saw you commented on a terms of use related edit at [[MediaWiki talk:Wikimedia-copyright#Protected edit request on 8 June 2023]]. Can it go ahead now, or is it still on hold? --[[User:Whym|Whym]] ([[User talk:Whym|talk]]) 03:49, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

== Tech News: 2023-30 ==

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'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* The notice "Language links are at the top of the page" that appears in the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Vector/2022|Vector 2022 skin]] main menu has been removed now that users have learned the new location of the Language switcher. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T353619]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] On July 18, the Wikimedia Foundation launched a survey about the [[:mw:Technical_decision_making|technical decision making process]] for people who do technical work that relies on software that is maintained by the Foundation or affiliates. If this applies to you, [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/885471 please take part in the survey]. The survey will be open for three weeks, until August 7. You can find more information in [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/Q7DUCFA75DXG3G2KHTO7CEWMLCYTSDB2/|the announcement e-mail on wikitech-l]].
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] [[m:Special:MyLanguage/IP_Editing:_Privacy_Enhancement_and_Abuse_Mitigation/IP_Info_feature|IP info feature]] displays data from Spur, an IP addresses database. Previously, the only data source for this feature was MaxMind. Now, IP info is more useful for patrollers. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T341395]

* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Obsolete:Toolforge/Grid][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Toolforge_Grid_Engine_deprecation][https://techblog.wikimedia.org/2022/03/14/toolforge-and-grid-engine/]
'''Changes later this week'''
* Communities can now customize the default reasons for undeleting a page by creating [[MediaWiki:Undelete-comment-dropdown]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T326746]
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.19|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-07-25|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-07-26|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-07-27|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).

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== non-transcluded BRFA ==
Hi. Not sure what to do with [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Hey Didn't]]. I mean, do we close it, or do we speedy it? Bbb has blocked the bot account for "not here", but botop is not blocked. —usernamekiran [[User talk:usernamekiran|(talk)]] 17:38, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

:I G2'd it — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:08, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

== Thank You ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
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== Template talk:Infobox medal templates ==

Hello, this template have been found problems affect its visual appearance on mobile phone screens, however due to different configurations for CSS styles between desktop and mobile view, this would be noticed by our readers. First, the top item of the content occupied this template having a wide grey stripe at the top. Second, the left column occupied half of template width, which looks very inconsistent among different devices. I've made fix in its sandbox page, and you'll see the problems on main template via these screenshots:
*[https://postimg.cc/4796XSzJ This is what I have seen over the years]
*[https://postimg.cc/d77d9xN8 This is my fix as displayed on test cases]
Would you like to apply my fix on main template? Do you have any more idea for this? Thanks. -- [[User:Great Brightstar|Great Brightstar]] ([[User talk:Great Brightstar|talk]]) 15:41, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

:Please open a new edit request at [[Template talk:Infobox medal templates]]; a patrolling template editor will get to it. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:45, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
::OK I did. --[[User:Great Brightstar|Great Brightstar]] ([[User talk:Great Brightstar|talk]]) 17:22, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

== Tech News: 2023-31 ==

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'''Recent changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The [[mw:Synchronizer|Synchronizer]] tool is now available to keep Lua modules synced across Wikimedia wikis, along with [[mw:Multilingual Templates and Modules|updated documentation]] to develop global Lua modules and templates.
* The tag filter on [[{{#special:NewPages}}]] and revision history pages can now be inverted. For example, you can hide edits that were made using an automated tool. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334337][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334338]
* The Wikipedia [[:w:en:ChatGPT|ChatGPT]] plugin experiment can now be used by ChatGPT users who can use plugins. You can participate in a [[:m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2023-2024/Draft/Future Audiences#Announcing monthly Future Audiences open "office hours"|video call]] if you want to talk about this experiment or similar work. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2023-2024/Draft/Future_Audiences#FA2.2_Conversational_AI]


'''Problems'''
'''Problems'''
* [[m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/RevisionSlider|RevisionSlider]] is an interface to interactively browse a page's history. Users in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:RevisionSlider/Developing_a_RTL-accessible_feature_in_MediaWiki_-_what_we%27ve_learned_while_creating_the_RevisionSlider|right-to-left]] languages reported RevisionSlider reacting wrong to mouse clicks. This should be fixed now. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T352169]
* It was not possible to generate a PDF for pages with non-Latin characters in the title, for the last two weeks. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T342442]


'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.20|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-08-01|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-08-02|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-08-03|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.23|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-03-19|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-03-20|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-03-21|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
* All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 20. This is planned at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1710943200 14:00 UTC]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T358233][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server_switch]
* Starting on Tuesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]]" ({{int:project-localized-name-kawiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kaawiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kabwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kbdwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kbpwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kiwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kkwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kmwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-knwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kswiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kshwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kuwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kwwiki/en}}). This is part of the [[phab:T304110|progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias]]. The communities can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Community configuration|configure how this feature works locally]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308135]

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'''Recent changes'''
* Mobile Web editors can now [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Advanced_mobile_contributions#August_1,_2023_-_Full-page_editing_added_on_mobile|edit a whole page at once]]. To use this feature, turn on "{{int:Mobile-frontend-mobile-option-amc}}" in your settings and use the "{{int:Minerva-page-actions-editfull}}" button in the "{{int:Minerva-page-actions-overflow}}" menu. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T203151]

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[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (July 2023).

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[[File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Administrator changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]]
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|[[Special:PermanentLink/1165672654#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/AlisonW closed|AlisonW]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1162761560#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#July 2023|Amberrock]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1162761560#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#July 2023|Closedmouth]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1164718647#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong closed|Scottywong]]
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[[File:Wikipedia Interface administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Interface administrator changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1164329595#Interface administrator request (Novem Linguae)|Novem Linguae]]

[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
* The tag filter on [[Special:NewPages]] and revision history pages can now be inverted. This allows hiding edits made by automated tools. ({{phab|T334338}})
* [[Special:BlockedExternalDomains]] is a new tool that allows easier blocking of plain domains (and their subdomains). This is more easily searchable and is faster for the software to use than the existing [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist|MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]]. It does not support regex (for complex cases), URL path-matching, or the [[MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist|MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist]]. ({{phab|T337431}})

[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
* The arbitration cases named [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong|Scottywong]] and [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/AlisonW|AlisonW]] closed 10 July and 16 July respectively.
* The [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/SmallCat dispute|SmallCat dispute]] arbitration case is in the workshop phase.

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'''Recent changes'''
* The Content translation system is no longer using Youdao's [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Content_translation/Translating/Initial_machine_translation|machine translation service]]. The service was in place for several years, but due to no usage, and availability of alternatives, it was deprecated to reduce maintenance overheads. Other services which cover the same languages are still available. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T329137]

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* Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]]" ({{int:project-localized-name-lawiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-ladwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-lbwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-lbewiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-lezwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-lfnwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-lgwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-liwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-lijwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-lmowiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-lnwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-ltgwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-lvwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-maiwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-map_bmswiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mdfwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mgwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-hywiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kywiki/en}}). This is part of the [[phab:T304110|progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias]]. The communities can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Community configuration|configure how this feature works locally]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308136] <!-- TODO replace wiki codes -->

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== Tech News: 2023-34 ==
== Tech News: 2024-13 ==


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'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] An update was made on March 18th 2024 to how various projects load site, user JavaScript and CSS in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Vector/2022|Vector 2022 skin]]. A [[phab:T360384|checklist]] is provided for site admins to follow.
* The [https://gdrive-to-commons.toolforge.org/ GDrive to Commons Uploader] tool is now available. It enables [[m:Special:MyLanguage/GDrive to Commons Uploader|securely selecting and uploading files]] from your Google Drive directly to Wikimedia Commons. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267868]
* From now on, we will announce new Wikimedia wikis in Tech News, so you can update any tools or pages.
** Since the last edition, two new wikis have been created:
*** a Wiktionary in [[d:Q7121294|Pa'O]] ([[wikt:blk:|<code>wikt:blk:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T343540]
*** a Wikisource in [[d:Q34002|Sundanese]] ([[s:su:|<code>s:su:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T343539]
** To catch up, the next most recent six wikis are:
*** Wikifunctions ([[f:|<code>f:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275945]
*** a Wiktionary in [[d:Q2891049|Mandailing]] ([[wikt:btm:|<code>wikt:btm:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T335216]
*** a Wikipedia in [[d:Q5555465|Ghanaian Pidgin]] ([[w:gpe:|<code>w:gpe:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T335969]
*** a Wikinews in [[d:Q3111668|Gungbe]] ([[n:guw:|<code>n:guw:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334394]
*** a Wiktionary in [[d:Q33522|Kabardian]] ([[wikt:kbd:|<code>wikt:kbd:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T333266]
*** a Wikipedia in [[d:Q35570|Fante]] ([[w:fat:|<code>w:fat:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T335016]


'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.23|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-08-22|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-08-23|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-08-24|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.24|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-03-26|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-03-27|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-03-28|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]


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== User Subpages deletion request. ==
15:23, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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Good day @[[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]] please I would like to delete these redirect pages, some where created unintentionally. Please [[User:Thisasia/common.js/common.js]], [[User:Thisasia/sandbox/common.js]] [[User:Thisasia/Status2User:Thisasia/sandbox]] and these sanebox doc pages, [[User:Thisasia/sandbox/Doc]], [[User:Thisasia/sandbox/doc]] and then with [[User:Thisasia/StatusChanger.js]] Thanks very much. <br/><i style='padding:5px; box-shadow:0 0 1px 1px #ffffff, 0 0 2.5px 2.5px rgba(0,0,0,0.16);'>[[User:Thisasia|<i style='color:darkblue;font-style:italic;font-weight:bold;'>Thisasia</i> ]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Thisasia|(Talk)]]</i> 01:16, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
== Assistance needed with content model changes ==


:@[[User:Thisasia|Thisasia]] looks like someone already did. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 09:03, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
*[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Templates/local.css]]
::Yes indeed. An admin has done that few hours ago, thanks very and have a good time. '''<br/><i style='padding:5px; box-shadow:0 0 1px 1px #ffffff, 0 0 2.5px 2.5px rgba(0,0,0,0.16);'>[[User:Thisasia|<i style='color:darkgreen;'>Thisasia</i> ]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Thisasia|<sup style='color:white;background:blue;'>(Talk)</sup>]]</i>''' 09:09, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
*[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Templates/external.css]]
*[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Templates/master.css]]
Can you change these from normal text to CSS for me? It is necessary to do some repair work on Signpost styling. Thanks. '''[[User:JPxG|jp]]'''×'''[[User talk:JPxG|g]]''' 20:26, 23 August 2023 (UTC)


== ''The Signpost'': 29 March 2024 ==
:@[[User:JPxG|JPxG]] {{done}} — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 21:12, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks {{smiley}} '''[[User:JPxG|jp]]'''×'''[[User talk:JPxG|g]]''' 21:18, 23 August 2023 (UTC)


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== Hi ==
I noticed you removed the <nowiki>{{in use}}</nowiki> tag from [[Islamic Bill of Rights for Women in the Mosque]] even though it was actively being edited. Also, it seems the edit history has been suppressed. May I ask why? There's nothing in the in-use template instructions that says not to use it logged-out.


Hello @[[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]], no one is interested in [[Special:Diff/1216195460|my request]]. Could you please take a look? [[User:Lionel Cristiano|Lionel Cristiano]]<sup>[[User talk:Lionel Cristiano|?]]</sup> 12:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Not saying it's wrong, I genuinely want to understand if there's a policy at play. By way of context, there's a proposal to substantially change the article at the AfD discussion, and these changes seem to be a constructive part of that. [[User:Oblivy|Oblivy]] ([[User talk:Oblivy|talk]]) 10:28, 25 August 2023 (UTC)


:@[[User:Oblivy|Oblivy]] there's a combination of things that went on with a few different admins. The edits made from 20230825T092551 to 20230825T094351 were made by an editor that claimed to be inadvertently logged out - an oversighter removed the username (an IP address) on request under [[WP:OSPOL]] criteria 1. Only the username portion of those edits has been suppressed, the content is available. In this specific case, multiple oversighters, including me, were all working on the suppression request at the same time. As the current version now had no one specific to attribute it to, I reverted to the last published version that had attribution (yours). We let the suppression requester know that if those were their edits, they are welcome to redo them once they are logged in (as is anyone else). Please let me know if you have any other questions on the administrative actions involved here. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 12:17, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Lionel Cristiano|Lionel Cristiano]] someone will get to it, as you can see there are much older requests backlogged on that page right now. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:36, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, I think it makes sense. As I understand it, a otherwise-registered editor didn't want to show up by IP, so their edits were reversed and the IP hidden and they can recreate the edits later. I had seen the original edits, which seemed good-faith, so I was wondering if there was some rule against IP editors putting an in-use template on the article (or something). No need to reply unless I'm totally off base. [[User:Oblivy|Oblivy]] ([[User talk:Oblivy|talk]]) 12:25, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Oblivy|Oblivy]] I'm not aware of any specific policy about the use of [[Template:in use]]. My own personal practice is that if I have to remove attribution from the "current version" of an article, then I revert it -- if someone won't claim the responsibility for what we are presenting to readers, then we probably shouldn't present that revision to readers. Sometimes I make an edit and claim it myself, but in this case I didn't want to. Anyone is welcome to revert my last revert and publish a prior version (taking responsibility for it). In case it wasn't clear, the content of the prior edits is right there in the history for anyone to see still. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 12:34, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
::::Got it. Thanks for the explanation and that totally makes sense. [[User:Oblivy|Oblivy]] ([[User talk:Oblivy|talk]]) 12:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC)


== Administrators' newsletter – April 2024 ==
== Thank you ==
So this is twice now that I've pinged you about that topic. I hope that that's been ok. I don't know where else or who else would be good to point people to. Well, that and I know that when I ask you, I can trust the answer : )


[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (March 2024).
Thanks again for all that you do : ) - <b>[[User:Jc37|jc37]]</b> 12:04, 26 August 2023 (UTC)


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:@[[User:Jc37|Jc37]] always welcome to, if you have a longer question on that you can also post at [[WP:IANB]] (feel free to ping me there too). — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:26, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
::Oh ok, thank you, and thank you : ) - <b>[[User:Jc37|jc37]]</b> 16:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

== Tech News: 2023-35 ==

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'''Recent changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] As part of the changes for the [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Better diff handling of paragraph splits|better diff handling of paragraph splits]], improved detection of splits is being rolled out. Over the last two weeks, we deployed this support to [[wikitech:Deployments/Train#Groups|group0]] and group1 wikis. This week it will be deployed to group2 wikis. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T341754]
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] All [[{{#special:Contributions}}]] pages now show the user's local edit count and the account's creation date. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T324166]
* Wikisource users can now use the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>prpbengalicurrency</code></bdi> label to denote Bengali currency characters as page numbers inside the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki><pagelist></nowiki></code></bdi> tag. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268932]
* Two preferences have been relocated. The preference "{{int:visualeditor-preference-visualeditor}}" is now shown on the [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|"{{int:prefs-editing}}" tab]] at all wikis. Previously it was shown on the "{{int:prefs-betafeatures}}" tab at some wikis. The preference "{{int:visualeditor-preference-newwikitexteditor-enable}}" is now also shown on the "{{int:prefs-editing}}" tab at all wikis, instead of the "{{int:prefs-betafeatures}}" tab. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T335056][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T344158]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.24|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-08-29|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-08-30|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-08-31|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] New signups for a Wikimedia developer account will start being pushed towards <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[https://idm.wikimedia.org/ idm.wikimedia.org]</bdi>, rather than going via Wikitech. [[wikitech:IDM|Further information about the new system is available]].
* All right-to-left language wikis, plus Korean, Armenian, Ukrainian, Russian, and Bulgarian Wikipedias, will have a link in the sidebar that provides a short URL of that page, using the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia URL Shortener|Wikimedia URL Shortener]]. This feature will come to more wikis in future weeks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267921]

'''Future changes'''
* The removal of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:DoubleWiki|DoubleWiki extension]] is being discussed. This extension currently allows Wikisource users to view articles from multiple language versions side by side when the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><=></code></bdi> symbol next to a specific language edition is selected. Comments on this are welcomed at [[phab:T344544|the phabricator task]].
* A proposal has been made to merge the second hidden-categories list (which appears below the wikitext editing form) with the main list of categories (which is further down the page). [[phab:T340606|More information is available on Phabricator]]; feedback is welcome!

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|[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Pppery|Pppery]]
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1170885456#Change to the Functionary team|Bradv]]

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:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1170885456#Change to the Functionary team|Bradv]]

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[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
* An [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Converting all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure|RfC]] is open to convert all current and future [[WP:OLDDS|community discretionary sanctions]] to (community designated) [[WP:CTOP|contentious topics procedure]].
* Following [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#RfC:_Automatically_semi-protect_Today's_Featured_Article|an RfC]], [[WP:TFA|TFAs]] will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
* [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_183#Revision_deletion_and_oversight_for_deadnames|A discussion]] at [[WP:VPP]] about revision deletion and oversight for [[dead names]] found that {{tq|[s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment}}.

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[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
* The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. ({{Phab|T313405}})
* [[Special:Contributions]] now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date. ({{phab|T324166}})

[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
*An [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management|arbitration case has been opened]] to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
* The ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/SmallCat dispute|SmallCat dispute]]'' case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in [[WP:XFD|XfD]] have been reminded to be careful about forming {{tq|local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus}}. Regular closers of [[WP:XFD|XfD]] forums were also encouraged to {{tq|note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful}}.

[[File:Info Simple bw.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Miscellaneous'''
[[File:Info Simple bw.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Miscellaneous'''
* Editors are invited to '''[[Wikipedia:The Core Contest/Entries|sign up]]''' for [[WP:The Core Contest|The Core Contest]], an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve [[Wikipedia:Vital articles|vital]] and other core articles on Wikipedia.
* '''Tech tip''': The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of [[Special:Diff]] can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.

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== Tech News: 2023-36 ==
== Tech News: 2024-14 ==


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'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* Users of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility_for_reading|reading accessibility]] beta feature will notice that the default line height for the standard and large text options has changed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T359030]
* [[m:Wikisource_EditInSequence|EditInSequence]], a feature that allows users to edit pages faster on Wikisource has been moved to a Beta Feature based on community feedback. To enable it, you can navigate to the [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures|beta features tab in Preferences]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308098]
* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] As part of the changes for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Generate Audio for IPA|Generate Audio for IPA]] and [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Multimedia and Commons/Audio links that play on click|Audio links that play on click]] wishlist proposals, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Phonos#Inline_audio_player_mode|inline audio player mode]] of [[mw:Extension:Phonos|Phonos]] has been deployed to all projects. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T336763]
* There is a new option for Administrators when they are changing the usergroups for a user, to add the user’s user page to their watchlist. This works both via [[{{#special:UserRights}}]] and via the API. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272294]
* One new wiki has been created:
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q34318|Talysh]] ([[w:tly:|<code>w:tly:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T345166]
'''Problems'''
* The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:LoginNotify|LoginNotify extension]] was not sending notifications since January. It has now been fixed, so going forward, you may see notifications for failed login attempts, and successful login attempts from a new device. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T344785]


'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.25|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-09-05|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-09-06|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-09-07|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.25|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-04-02|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-04-03|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-04-04|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
* Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]]" ({{int:project-localized-name-mhrwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-miwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-minwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mkwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mlwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mnwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mrwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mrjwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mswiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mtwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mwlwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-myvwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mznwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-nahwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-napwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-ndswiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-nds_nlwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-newiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-newwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-nnwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-novwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-nqowiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-nrmwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-nsowiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-nvwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-nywiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-ocwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-olowiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-omwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-orwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-oswiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pawiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pagwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pamwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-papwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pcdwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pdcwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pflwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pihwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pmswiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pnbwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pntwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pswiki/en}}). This is part of the [[phab:T304110|progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias]]. The communities can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Community configuration|configure how this feature works locally]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308137][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308138]


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== Moomoo ==
I went to look at the [[WP:BAG]] list and saw that you were on it : )


About 4 years ago you put protection on this page as a redirect but the notes say it a was removed.. the redirect seems to be active and i was wondering if you could remove the protection? Thanks [[User:QuantWiz|QuantWiz]] ([[User talk:QuantWiz|talk]]) 18:26, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
I thought I'd ask you here, rather than ping you there, this time, but you are of course welcome to answer here or there (or not) as you prefer.


:@[[User:QuantWiz|QuantWiz]] I actually lowered the protection, though consider it still a vandalism target. If you have an edit request for the page, please use the talk page. Feel free to appeal at [[WP:RFUP]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Anyway, my main question is: I remember (somewhat vaguely) the various messes and Betacommand. And one of the things that I remember being talked about are edit rates, and so on. I'm not sure how they would specifically apply here, but speed of editing and perhaps not being as diligent as some might want, seeems to be the crux of things here. But I'm not sure how serious we should see this to be. For example, how fast is "bot fast"? Do we have any sort of rough benchmarks for semi-automated editing? Basically I want to AGF of the editor here. But if this is a genuine problem, then I'd like to see it faitly addressed. What comes to my mind is the second half of "Be bold, but not reckless".
::Thanks for the quick reply.. the talk page mentions putting a page for Moomoo the trading app in there which is what i was considering. [[User:QuantWiz|QuantWiz]] ([[User talk:QuantWiz|talk]]) 18:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:QuantWiz|QuantWiz]] a good way to do that is to write the page at [[Draft:Moomoo]] then ask for it to be moved over when it is ready. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)


== Tech News: 2024-15 ==
I guess I'm in the spot of: I don't know what I don't know. And I'd like to make a better-informed decision on this. - <b>[[User:Jc37|jc37]]</b> 17:04, 6 September 2023 (UTC)


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:@[[User:Jc37|Jc37]] like most stuff here, ''it depends''. I don't have time to dive in to that whole case, but in general if someone is making repeated "bad edits" - they need to stop and correct their behavior, regardless of if it is tool assisted. AWB bots are free - if the nature of the edits is something that really doesn't require human review, then there is benefit to others by using a flagged account -- that doesn't seem to be the case here, as the original complaint was that these are bad edits. As far as edit rate, back to the first claim - it doesn't matter if the edits are "bad", no rate is OK. Only if all the edits are "good" should rate start to be examined; 1 one time batch of say 100 edits in a minute isn't necessarily a brightline - but doing that every day could be. The reason is that high speed editing can overwhelm the ability for edits to be reviewed by others - and even be disruptive to the process by flooding recent changes and watchlists. Sorry this isn't a super clear response, but it is a nuanced subject. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:39, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
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::Thank you. With what (little lol) I know, that was very informative. I appreciate it. - <b>[[User:Jc37|jc37]]</b> 18:13, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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== Userbox ==
I see that they are semi-inactive, if they aren't around to respond, I can just make a new [[WP:UBX|userbox]] in template-space of you like. - <b>[[User:Jc37|jc37]]</b> 18:01, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

:If no response in a reasonable time, I'll restore it to another space to keep the history - ping me. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
::Oh ok. Wasn't sure if you wanted/needed assistance, so thought I'd offer : ) - <b>[[User:Jc37|jc37]]</b> 18:15, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
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* [[File:Octicons-gift.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Wishlist item]] A new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit Recovery|Edit Recovery]] feature has been added to all wikis, available as a [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|user preference]]. Once you enable it, your in-progress edits will be stored in your web browser, and if you accidentally close an editing window or your browser or computer crashes, you will be prompted to recover the unpublished text. Please leave any feedback on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Edit-recovery feature|project talk page]]. This was the #8 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
* When you are logged in on one Wikimedia wiki and visit a different Wikimedia wiki, the system tries to log you in there automatically. This has been unreliable for a long time. You can now visit the login page to make the system try extra hard. If you feel that made logging in better or worse than it used to be, your feedback is appreciated. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T326281]
* Initial results of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check|Edit check]] experiments [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit_check#4_April_2024|have been published]]. Edit Check is now deployed as a default feature at [[phab:T342930#9538364|the wikis that tested it]]. [[mw:Talk:Edit check|Let us know]] if you want your wiki to be part of the next deployment of Edit check. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T342930][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T361727]
* Readers using the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Minerva Neue|Minerva skin]] on mobile will notice there has been an improvement in the line height across all typography settings. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T359029]


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* New accounts and logged-out users will get the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor|visual editor]] as their default editor on mobile. This deployment is made at all wikis except for the English Wikipedia. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T361134]
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Could you make a similar adjustment on all of the other padlock pages? [[User:Geardona|Geardona]] ([[User talk:Geardona|talk to me?]]) 16:08, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
== ''The Signpost'': 16 September 2023 ==


:@[[User:Geardona|Geardona]] please drop edit requests so your ask doesn't get lost. You don't have to "sandbox" them for just updating that file description - just put what you want in the ER. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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== Tech News: 2023-38 ==
== Tech News: 2024-16 ==


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'''Recent changes'''
'''Problems'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] MediaWiki now has a [[mw:Stable interface policy/frontend|stable interface policy for frontend code]] that more clearly defines how we deprecate MediaWiki code and wiki-based code (e.g. gadgets and user scripts). Thank you to everyone who contributed to the content and discussions. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T346467][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T344079]
* Between 2 April and 8 April, on wikis using [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:FlaggedRevs|Flagged Revisions]], the "{{Int:tag-mw-reverted}}" tag was not applied to undone edits. In addition, page moves, protections and imports were not autoreviewed. This problem is now fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T361918][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T361940]


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* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.43/wmf.1|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-04-16|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-04-17|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-04-18|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.43/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
* [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Magic words#DEFAULTSORT|Default category sort keys]] will now affect categories added by templates placed in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Cite|footnotes]]. Previously footnotes used the page title as the default sort key even if a different default sort key was specified (category-specific sort keys already worked). [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40435]
* All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 20. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|This is planned at 14:00 UTC.]] [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T345263]
* All wikis will have a link in the sidebar that provides a short URL of that page, using the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia URL Shortener|Wikimedia URL Shortener]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267921]
* A new variable <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>page_last_edit_age</code></bdi> will be added to [[Special:AbuseFilter|abuse filters]]. It tells how many seconds ago the last edit to a page was made. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T269769]


'''Future changes'''
'''Future changes'''
* Volunteer developers are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]]. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers/2024-04 CTA|Learn more]].
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* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] Four database fields will be removed from database replicas (including [[quarry:|Quarry]]). This affects only the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>abuse_filter</code></bdi> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>abuse_filter_history</code></bdi> tables. Some queries might need to be updated. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T361996]


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== Tech News: 2024-17 ==
== Short descriptions and settlement infoboxes ==


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Hello! Can you help me understand something better? I was checking [[sq:Speciale:StampaTëDëshiruara|this list]] of needed templates in my homewiki and a lot of them are "shortdescriptions". Apparently they come from {{tl|Infobox settlement}} but I'm not sure how that is supposed to work exactly. You set the type and you get an automatic template? I haven't seen such auto-generated templates in EnWiki. :/ - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 09:53, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
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:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] that template (here at least) is pulling in at least one lua module, which is trying to build short descriptions along the way. By default, the short descriptions from wikidata would otherwise be used. If you don't want that functionality in your template on sqwiki you should remove it; I expect this is one of those "the English Wikipedia volunteers built a very complicated template that probably shouldn't just be imported to another project as-is" sort of things. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:54, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
::It's not a matter whether I want that functionality or not in our template. I literally don't understand what is going on exactly. Can you give me an example here on the English Wikipedia where a similar short description template is auto-created? I want to see the process at work to know how to fine-tune it for us. I have the same number of modules involved in that template with the same identic content.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1695901537072:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 11:45, 28 September 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::Here's an example:
:::*[[Katanga Province]] is an article that uses [[Template:Infobox settlement]]
:::*That templates invokes [[Module:Settlement short description]]
:::**That module builds the description input based off of other parameters that were input with the text calling the template from the article. This is using various string lookups and replacements
:::*Results:
:::**The wikidata description for this page is <code>Katanga was one of the four large provinces created in the Belgian Congo in 1914. It was one of the eleven provinces of the Democratic Republic of the Congo between 1966 and 2015</code>
:::**The local description for this page is <code>Former province in DR Congo</code>
:::*For more help on this, please follow up at: [[Template talk:Infobox settlement]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:25, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
:::**But again, I don't see the said module create templates like it is doing in [[:w:sq:Speciale:StampaTëDëshiruara|here]] for us. :/ This is all I'm asking. I'll ask at the respective talk page.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1695913889853:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 15:11, 28 September 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::**:@[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ah OK, not sure - if I had to guess one of the string handling lines in the lua module are failing on the character set (e.g. not knowing how to change case of "ë" in "Qytezë"). — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:16, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

== Tech News: 2023-39 ==

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'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* Starting this week, newcomers editing Wikipedia [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Positive reinforcement#Leveling up 3|will be encouraged]] to try structured tasks. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Feature summary#Newcomer tasks|Structured tasks]] have been shown to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Personalized first day/Structured tasks/Add a link/Experiment analysis, December 2021|improve newcomer activation and retention]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T348086]
* The Vector 2022 skin will now remember the pinned/unpinned status for the Table of Contents for all logged-out users. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T316060]
* You can [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Coolest Tool Award|nominate your favorite tools]] for the fifth edition of the Coolest Tool Award. Nominations will be open until May 10.


'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.28|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-09-26|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-09-27|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-09-28|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.43/wmf.2|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-04-23|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-04-24|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-04-25|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.43/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The ResourceLoader <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>mediawiki.ui</nowiki></code></bdi> modules are now deprecated as part of the move to Vue.js and Codex. There is a [[mw:Codex/Migrating_from_MediaWiki_UI|guide for migrating from MediaWiki UI to Codex]] for any tools that use it. More [[phab:T346468|details are available in the task]] and your questions are welcome there.
* Gadget definitions will have a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Gadgets#Options|new "namespaces" option]]. The option takes a list of namespace IDs. Gadgets that use this option will only load on pages in the given namespaces.


'''Future changes'''
'''Future changes'''
* This is the last warning that by the end of May 2024 the Vector 2022 skin will no longer share site and user scripts/styles with old Vector. For user-scripts that you want to keep using on Vector 2022, copy the contents of [[{{#special:MyPage}}/vector.js]] to [[{{#special:MyPage}}/vector-2022.js]]. There are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements/Features/Loading Vector 2010 scripts|more technical details]] available. Interface administrators who foresee this leading to lots of technical support questions may wish to send a mass message to your community, as was done on French Wikipedia. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T362701]
* New variables will be added to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AbuseFilter|AbuseFilter]]: <code><bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr">global_account_groups</bdi></code> and <code><bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr">global_account_editcount</bdi></code>. They are available only when an account is being created. You can use them to prevent blocking automatic creation of accounts when users with many edits elsewhere visit your wiki for the first time. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T345632][https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AbuseFilter/Rules_format]


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* You can join the next meeting with the Wikipedia mobile apps teams. During the meeting, we will discuss the current features and future roadmap. The meeting will be on [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1698426015 27 October at 17:00 (UTC)]. See [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Apps/Office_Hours#October_2023|details and how to join]].


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== CHU help ==
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Hey, I can't get any answer @ IRC, I'm working the [[Wikipedia:Changing_username/Simple#Atarinintendo_→_Camila_Vallejo|new request]] at CHU/S and go a <span class="plainlinks">[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Camila_vallejo anti-spoof hit]</span>, if I had this hit at ACC I'd go ahead and create the account, but here (at rename) it seems different, does this request need to go to CHU/U? - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 19:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
== Feedback request: Wikipedia technical issues and templates request for comment ==


:looking. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
[[File:Internet-group-chat.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]]Your feedback is requested &#32;at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Weather#rfc_601B29D|'''Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Weather'''&#32; on a "Wikipedia technical issues and templates" request for comment]]. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of [[WP:FRS|Feedback Request Service]] subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by [[WP:FRS|removing your name]].</small> <!-- Template:FRS notification --><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> Message delivered to you with love by [[User:Yapperbot|Yapperbot]] :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact [[User talk:Naypta|my bot operator]]. &#124; Sent at 01:30, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:FlightTime|FlightTime]] 8 year old, never contributed - I'm not worried about the conflict. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
:::Great, that was my take also. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 19:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
::JJMC89 says (via IRC) go ahead and rename. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 19:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
:::so thats +2 :) — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
::::{{smiley}} Thanx, - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 19:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


== Tech News: 2023-40 ==
== ''The Signpost'': 25 April 2024 ==


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== Sarcasm ==
'''Recent changes'''
* There is a new [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering-advancedrendering|user preference]] for "{{int:tog-forcesafemode}}". This setting will make pages load without including any on-wiki JavaScript or on-wiki stylesheet pages. It can be useful for debugging broken JavaScript gadgets. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T342347]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] Gadget definitions now have a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Gadgets#Options|new "<var>contentModels</var>" option]]. The option takes a list of page content models, like <code><bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr">wikitext</bdi></code> or <code><bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr">css</bdi></code>. Gadgets that use this option will only load on pages with the given content models.


Thank you for your sarcastic response to my mistake. I did not mean to press save on the main page in Rater. [[User:Ktkvtsh|Ktkvtsh]] ([[User talk:Ktkvtsh|talk]]) 22:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.29|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-03|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-04|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-05|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).


:@[[User:Ktkvtsh|Ktkvtsh]] I saw you weren't a newbie so hope that didn't come of BITEy or callous - how about we both split this:
'''Future changes'''
:{{trout}}
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The Vector 2022 skin will no longer use the custom styles and scripts of Vector legacy (2010). The change will be made later this year or in early 2024. See [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements/Features/Loading Vector 2010 scripts|how to adjust the CSS and JS pages on your wiki]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T331679]
::? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 22:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
::Haha sounds good. Just felt the need to explain myself. Glad we can both laugh about it.
::have a great evening! [[User:Ktkvtsh|Ktkvtsh]] ([[User talk:Ktkvtsh|talk]]) 22:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
*Just wanted to say... we were all having a laugh about how our main page is just a weedy little stub on [[WP:Discord|Discord]]. Perhaps we should work to get it to [[WP:FA|featured article]] status. I see it's severely lacking on [[WP:CITE|sources]]! —[[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁</span> ([[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF">Talk</span>]] · [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F">Contributions</span>]]) 03:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2024/18|Translations]] are available.
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== ITN entries ==
Hello. I hope you are doing well.<br />I'm currently working on a bot to archive the ITN entries. So far, I've worked out everything, but there is only one issue now. Basically, the bot covers additions of entries, updates to existing entries (eg death tolls), and removal of entries. The bot can process multiple additions in the same edit, but I haven't been able to process removal if there is an addition at the same time. This always happens when someone updates recent deaths. While removal of death is not very much important, the removal of other news blurb/event should be mentioned in the archive page (e.g. natural disasters, bombings, and similar stuff).<br />So my actual question is: would it be appropriate to request regular ITN updaters to remove only one news blurb in a single edit, and add an invisible comment regarding this in the ITN template? I have created [[special:permalink/1178083244|archive of Sept 2023]]. By taking a look at it, you will realise what I am talking about. Kindly let me know what you think. There is also a longer discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:In the news#Archive of ITN postings]]. —usernamekiran [[User talk:usernamekiran|(talk)]] 02:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)


[[File:Talk_pages_default_look_(April_2023).jpg|thumb|alt=Screenshot of the visual improvements made on talk pages|Example of a talk page with the new design, in French.]]
:@[[User:Usernamekiran|Usernamekiran]] as the pool of people that could update it is so large, and the reason you want this is not for the benefit of readers I don't expect it would get done reliably. The better fix seems to be to improve the bot logic. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 03:10, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
* The appearance of talk pages changed for the following wikis: {{int:project-localized-name-azwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-bnwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-dewiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-fawiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-hewiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-hiwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-idwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-kowiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-nlwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-ptwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-rowiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-thwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-trwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-ukwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-viwiki/en}}. These wikis participated to a test, where 50% of users got the new design, for one year. As this test [[Mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability/Analysis|gave positive results]], the new design is deployed on these wikis as the default design. It is possible to opt-out these changes [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|in user preferences]] ("{{int:discussiontools-preference-visualenhancements}}"). The deployment will happen at all wikis in the coming weeks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T341491]
::yes, I had the same reservations you mentioned. I thought adding an invisible comment along the lines "remove only one news blurb in one edit without adding, or removing anything else", like we already have "Post ongoing items in alphabetical order" would be feasible. I have tried a lot, but because of the way pywikibot processes the diffs, it is proving difficult. I will try again, or maybe I'll come up with some work-around/heuristics. —usernamekiran [[User talk:usernamekiran|(talk)]] 03:47, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
* Seven new wikis have been created:
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q33014|Betawi]] ([[w:bew:|<code>w:bew:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T357866]
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q35708|Kusaal]] ([[w:kus:|<code>w:kus:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T359757]
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q35513|Igala]] ([[w:igl:|<code>w:igl:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T361644]
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wiktionary}} in [[d:Q33541|Karakalpak]] ([[wikt:kaa:|<code>wikt:kaa:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T362135]
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikisource}} in [[d:Q9228|Burmese]] ([[s:my:|<code>s:my:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T361085]
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikisource}} in [[d:Q9237|Malay]] ([[s:ms:|<code>s:ms:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T363039]
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikisource}} in [[d:Q8108|Georgian]] ([[s:ka:|<code>s:ka:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T363085]
* You can now [https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Support#Early_access:_Watch_Message_Groups_on_Translatewiki.net watch message groups/projects] on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/translatewiki.net|Translatewiki.net]]. Initially, this feature will notify you of added or deleted messages in these groups. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T348501]
* Dark mode is now available on all wikis, on mobile web for logged-in users who opt into the [[Special:MobileOptions|advanced mode]]. This is the early release of the feature. Technical editors are invited to [https://night-mode-checker.wmcloud.org/ check for accessibility issues on wikis]. See [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates/2024-04|more detailed guidelines]].


'''Problems'''
== More details about EFH granting requirements and required trust ==
* [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Kartographer|Kartographer]] maps can use an alternative visual style without labels, by using <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>mapstyle="osm"</nowiki></code></bdi>. This wasn't working in previews, creating the wrong impression that it wasn't supported. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T362531]


'''Changes later this week'''
Hello xaosflux! While I regularly help in [[WP:EFFPR]] dealing with false positives by public filters, how could I make sure I could be trusted to have the edit filter helper right? Note that despite reading the granting guidelines [I am currently an extended confirmed user, have a secure password with 2FA enabled, have never been blocked or sanctioned (a clean block log), and can understand the English language (near native ability)], how can the community trust me to have the right?
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.43/wmf.3|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-04-30|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-05-01|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-05-02|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.43/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]


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== Administrators' newsletter – May 2024 ==
:@[[User:64andtim|64andtim]] ''in general'': be active for a while (5 months is likely going to be consider a bit short); participate in areas where this is needed (such a /FP). You should also seek to remedy your blocks on other WMF projects (I see you are blocked on maiwiki). — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:57, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
::It looks like I was unblocked over there due to said block being accidental. And which areas I should participate in FP? (it looks like I should be active for ''at least'' a year or more if they should trust me to get the user right). ''Signed,'' [[User:64andtim|<span style="color:#0024FF">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:darkblue">any problems?</span>]]) 12:02, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
:::Good news on that unblock! [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations]] is another related area. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 12:58, 3 October 2023 (UTC)


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== Administrators' newsletter – September 2023 ==

[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (September 2023).

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[[File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Administrator changes'''
[[File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Administrator changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:Permalink/1220304714#Resysop request (Nyttend)|Nyttend]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{hlist|class=inline
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|[[Special:PermanentLink/1173208815#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#September 2023|Alex Bakharev]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1216602202#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2024#April 2024|JohnOwens]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1216602202#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2024#April 2024|Killiondude]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1175400616#Desysop (CorbieVreccan)|CorbieVreccan]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1218467362#Handing in my mop|MelanieN]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1173208815#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#September 2023|Cyphoidbomb]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1173208815#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#September 2023|Davodd]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1218761294#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management closed|Nihonjoe]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1173887484#Hog Farm|Hog Farm]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1175291288#Removal of admin permissions (JamesR)|JamesR]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1173459212#KnightLago|KnightLago]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1175286540#Desysop request (Mark Ironie)|Mark Ironie]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1173275489#Desysop (Nosebagbear)|Nosebagbear]] ([[Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2023#Nosebagbear|deceased]])
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1176647362#Resignation (Rschen7754)|Rschen7754]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1176506992#Temporary desysop request (Tamzin)|Tamzin]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1177722567#Desysop request (TonyBallioni)|TonyBallioni]]
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[[File:Wikipedia bureaucrat.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Bureaucrat changes'''
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:Permalink/1218761294#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management closed|Nihonjoe]]


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[[File:Checkuser Logo.svg|20px|alt=]] '''CheckUser changes'''
[[File:Checkuser Logo.svg|20px|alt=]] '''CheckUser changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1177228254#2023 CheckUser and Oversight appointments: candidate appointed|DatGuy]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1219467786#Changes to the functionaries team, April 2024|Joe Roe]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] {{hlist|class=inline
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1173281986#Change to the Checkuser team|Ferret]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1174253946#Change to the Functionary team 2|RickinBaltimore]]
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{hlist|class=inline
|[[meta:Special:PermanentLink/25676896#TonyBallioni@en.wikipedia|TonyBallioni]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1175034379#Worm That Turned stepping down|Worm That Turned]]
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[[File:Oversight logo.png|20px|alt=]] '''Oversighter changes'''
[[File:Oversight logo.png|20px|alt=]] '''Oversight changes'''
:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1174253946#Change to the Functionary team 2|RickinBaltimore]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:PermanentLink/1219467786#Changes to the functionaries team, April 2024|GeneralNotability]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{hlist|class=inline
|[[meta:Special:PermanentLink/25676896#TonyBallioni@en.wikipedia|TonyBallioni]]
|[[Special:PermanentLink/1175034379#Worm That Turned stepping down|Worm That Turned]]
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[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
* Phase I of the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review|2024 requests for adminship review]] has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 3b: Make the first two days discussion-only (trial)|creating a discussion-only period]] (3b) and [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 13: Admin elections|administrator elections]] (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 2: Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA|creating a reminder of civility norms]] (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I|full report]].
* [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#RfC:_Required_disclosure_for_admin_paid_advising|An RfC]] is open regarding amending the [[Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure|paid-contribution disclosure]] policy to add the following text: {{tq|Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.}}


[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
* Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. [[phab:T280531|T280531]]
* Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via [[Special:UserRights]] and via the API. ({{phab|T272294}})


[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
* The arbitration case ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management|Conflict of interest management]]'' has been closed.
* [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/WikiProject Tropical Cyclones#MarioProtIV topic ban|Remedy 9 ("MarioProtIV topic ban")]] of the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/WikiProject Tropical Cyclones|WikiProject Tropical Cyclones case]] has [[Special:PermanentLink/1174436142#Arbitration motion regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones|been rescinded]].


[[File:Info Simple bw.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Miscellaneous'''
[[File:Info Simple bw.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Miscellaneous'''
* This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
* The [[WP:CUOS2023|2023 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process]] has concluded with the appointment of one new CheckUser.
* A [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/May 2024|'''New Pages Patrol backlog drive''']] is happening in May 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles in the [[Special:NewPagesFeed|new pages feed]]. Currently, there is a backlog of over 15,000 articles awaiting review. [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/May 2024/Participants|'''Sign up here to participate!''']]
* Self-nominations for the [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023/Electoral Commission|electoral commission]] for the [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023|2023 Arbitration Committee elections]] opens on 2 October and closes on 8 October.
* Voting for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C)]] election is open until 9 May 2024. Read the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024#Voting|voting page on Meta-Wiki]] and '''[[m:Special:SecurePoll/vote/396|cast your vote here!]]'''


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== Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C ==
== en-gb/en-ca messages ==


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I see you deleted [[MediaWiki:Preferences-summary/en-gb]] and [[MediaWiki:Preferences-summary/en-ca]] after we finally got [[phab:T229992]] (yeah!)
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Dear Wikimedian,
Searches [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=50&offset=0&ns8=1&search=intitle%3A%22en-gb%22] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=50&offset=0&ns8=1&search=intitle%3A%22en-ca%22] currently find 67 en-gb or en-ca MediaWiki messages.


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61 duplicate en text (sometimes a little out of sync):
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# Do you think we can just speedy delete the first 63 pages as [[WP:G6]] maintenance or should it go to [[WP:MFD]] before deleting so many pages together?
# Do you know whether our cite error message system will work correctly with fallbacks if the en-gb/en-ca pages are deleted?
# Do you think all problems are gone so the warning at [[Help:Preferences#Internationalisation]] can also be deleted?
[[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 00:29, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


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:@[[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] I expect that we should be able to purge the default messages that have been forked to the variants without issue. That cite stuff is all off local modules, etc - so will need to be investigated more. I doubt it's 100% and we should probably still discourage anyone from setting a variant. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 00:49, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
::The color-colour on the default ones should still be removed; the ones on the local gadget, not sure. I don't think the local gadgets/scripts are helped by the change to the core handling. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 00:50, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
::I started deleting some above, sorted down. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 01:10, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
:::Thanks. I think [[MediaWiki:Gadget-ClassicDiff/en-gb]] would have been displayed by MediaWiki at [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets]] for en-gb users if ClassicDiff had actually been a gadget name listed in [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition]], but it's not, so the page appears to be unused. [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition]] instead lists OldDiff so [[MediaWiki:Gadget-OldDiff]] is used but it has no en-gb/en-ca customization. For comparison, [[MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat/de]] is displayed for de.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences?uselang=de#mw-prefsection-gadgets]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 02:51, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] Looks like a subset of these may still get polluted from translatewiki -- such a hot mess, see the later notes at [[phab:T229992]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 21:52, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::Our MediaWiki messages are not imported live from Translatewiki. Sometimes somebody updates a file and all our MediaWiki defaults are updated with changes since last time. We have customized [[MediaWiki:Blockiptext]]. [[MediaWiki:Blockiptext/qqx]] shows the default en message with "vandalized". Our [[MediaWiki:Blockiptext/en-gb]] has not yet "imported" the deletion of [[translatewiki:MediaWiki:Blockiptext/en-gb]] so it still shows an en-gb message with "vandalised". I assume the deleted Translatewiki message said that but don't have access to check. Oddly, [[translatewiki:MediaWiki:Blockiptext/en-gb]] ''also'' currently says "vandalised". Translatewiki itself is powered by MediaWiki. I guess if they don't currently have a customized en-gb message then their en-gb page shows the current MediaWiki default for en-gb, so they have to wait for an import of their ''own'' deletion before the page will show the en version with "vandalized". That's a bit confusing. English is my second language and I have no stake in spelling issues like -ize/-ise but they apparently matter greatly to some. If somebody made an en-gb version at Translatewiki with a minor spelling change then our local en-gb users get that unless we customize our local en-gb version. I guess it varies whether this is considered good or bad. I think we should keep the current warning in [[Help:Preferences#Internationalisation]] but not reintroduce more prominent warnings in MediaWiki messages like [[MediaWiki:Preferences-summary/en-gb]]. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core/+/63b013c5bfdfe07be20557ce9cc26a79a98cf023/languages/i18n/en-gb.json shows a brief list of en-gb messages but I suspect it's all there are, out of 25000+ MediaWiki messages. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:50, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::Problem is that it isn't really just a translation of our local /en version; our local en version is completely customized away from mediawiki default - and there are still about 100 (of 10000+?) messages that mediawiki is pulling in to /en-gb as default -- but the "use local fallback" fight in that phab ticket is still going on. Short story, still work to do - and it's still useful to actively warn enwiki's users to not pick an /en-xx language setting or they will miss out on localizations. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)


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== Help for the lame ==
Hi Xaosflux. This year if you're one of the top 3 vote getters do you intended to serve or might you step back into the reserve commissioner role as you did last year? Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 08:13, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


I have a script installed (somewhere) that allows me to click on "rollback all". I just invoked it at [[Special:contributions/GauMutra]], and it didn't work. I tried it again in case I misclicked, and it still didn't work. Given that I'm not sure who wrote the script, I'm not sure to whom I should go for help. It might be [[User:Gracenotes]], but if it is, they haven't edited in over a decade (a shame, it's a pretty username). Can you help? Sorry for my shortcomings in this area.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 13:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] I plan to serve the term if selected. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 09:41, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Bbb23}} you have 2 rollback related userscripts:
:#[[User:Gracenotes/rollback.js]] via [[User:Bbb23/vector.js]] (should only load when your skin is set to vector) and
:#[[User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/massRollback.js]] via [[User:Bbb23/common.js]]
:The second of those specifically inserts a "rollback all" link, so I'd start with asking Writ Keeper. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
::Will do; thanks a lot! --[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 16:05, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:::I tried it again just now just in case, and it worked. I don't suppose you know why it didn't work (I use it fairly frequently, so not working is more of an anomaly than working). {{U|Writ Keeper}}?--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 16:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Sorry no, scripts can be tricky - sometimes they race against each other and can cause oddities, especially if you have many scripts from different places. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 00:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::Would it be better to remove the Gracenotes script? I don't think it ever runs, it's not supported, and the WK script works anyway.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::If you're not using vector, it shouldn't run. But I suggest removing any script you are not using. Just put "<code>//</code>" at the front of the line to disable it in case you want to use it again later. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 01:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I ''am'' using Vector (Vector Legacy), but I've disabled it anyway. Given that I don't know what it's supposed to do, I can't really know if it ever runs, but if I find I can't rollback the way I wish to, I can always re-enable it. This whole thing makes me tired, but I ''do'' appreciate your help.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 02:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


== RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins ==
== Tech News: 2023-41 ==


Hi there! Phase I of the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review]] has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:
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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2023/41|Translations]] are available.


* '''Proposals 2 and 9b''' ('''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Reminder of civility norms at RfA|phase II discussion]]'''): [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 2: Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA|Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA]] and [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 9b: Require links for claims of specific policy violations|Require links for claims of specific policy violations]]
'''Recent changes'''
* '''Proposal 3b''' (in trial): [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 3b: Make the first two days discussion-only (trial)|Make the first two days discussion-only]]
* One new wiki has been created: a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q33291|Fon]] ([[w:fon:|<code>w:fon:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T347935]
* '''Proposal 13''' (in trial): [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 13: Admin elections|Admin elections]]
* '''Proposal 14''' (implemented): [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 14: Suffrage requirements|Suffrage requirements]]
* '''Proposals 16 and 16c''' ('''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Administrator recall|phase II discussion]]'''): [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 16: Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs|Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs]] and [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_16c%3A_Community_recall_process_based_on_dewiki|Community recall process based on dewiki]]
* '''Proposal 17''' ('''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Designated RfA monitors|phase II discussion]]'''): [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 17: Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions|Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions]]
* '''Proposal 24''' ('''[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Mentoring process|phase II discussion]]'''): [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 24: Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process|Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process]]
* '''Proposal 25''' (implemented): [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 25: Require nominees to be extended confirmed|Require nominees to be extended confirmed]]
See the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review|project page]] for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. [[user:theleekycauldron|theleekycauldron]] ([[user talk:theleekycauldron|talk]]), via [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.30|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-10|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-11|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-12|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]]" ({{int:project-localized-name-swwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-wawiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-warwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-wowiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-xalwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-xhwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-xmfwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-yiwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-yowiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-zawiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-zeawiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-zh_min_nanwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-zuwiki/en}}). This is part of the [[phab:T304110|progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias]]. The communities can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Community configuration|configure how this feature works locally]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308139]
* At some wikis, newcomers are suggested images from Commons to add to articles without any images. Starting on Tuesday, newcomers at these wikis will be able to add images to unillustrated article sections. The specific wikis are listed under "Images recommendations" [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Deployment table|at the Growth team deployment table]]. You can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add an image|learn more about this feature.]] [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T345940]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] In the mobile web skin (Minerva) the CSS ID <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>#page-actions</nowiki></code></bdi> will be replaced with <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>#p-views</nowiki></code></bdi>. This change is to make it consistent with other skins and to improve support for gadgets and extensions in the mobile skin. A few gadgets may need to be updated; there are [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T348267 details and search-links in the task].


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'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
[[File:Talk_pages_default_look_(April_2023).jpg|thumb|alt=Screenshot of the visual improvements made on talk pages|Example of a talk page with the new design, in French.]]
* The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Unified login|Unified login]] system's edge login should now be fixed for some browsers (Chrome, Edge, Opera). This means that if you visit a new sister project wiki, you should be logged in automatically without the need to click "Log in" or reload the page. Feedback on whether it's working for you is welcome. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T347889]
* The appearance of talk pages changed for all wikis, except for Commons, Wikidata and most Wikipedias ([[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2024/18|a few]] have already received this design change). You can read the detail of the changes [[diffblog:2024/05/02/making-talk-pages-better-for-everyone/|on ''Diff'']]. It is possible to opt-out these changes [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|in user preferences]] ("{{int:discussiontools-preference-visualenhancements}}"). The deployment will happen at remaining wikis in the coming weeks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T352087][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T319146]
* [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Interface/Edit_notice|Edit notices]] are now available within the MobileFrontend/Minerva skin. This feature was inspired by [[w:en:Wikipedia:EditNoticesOnMobile|the gadget on English Wikipedia]]. See more details in [[phab:T316178|T316178]].
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] Interface admins now have greater control over the styling of article components on mobile with the introduction of the <code>SiteAdminHelper</code>. More information on how styles can be disabled can be found [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:WikimediaMessages#Site_admin_helper|at the extension's page]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T363932]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Enterprise|Wikimedia Enterprise]] has added article body sections in JSON format and a curated short description field to the existing parsed Infobox. This expansion to the API is also available via Wikimedia Cloud Services. [https://enterprise.wikimedia.com/blog/article-sections-and-description/]


'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.1|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-17|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-18|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-19|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.41/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.43/wmf.4|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-05-07|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-05-08|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-05-09|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.43/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
* When you look at the Special:Log page, the first view is labelled "All public logs", but it only shows some logs. This label will now say "Main public logs". [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T237729]


'''Future changes'''
'''Future changes'''
* A new service will be built to replace [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|Extension:Graph]]. Details can be found in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph/Plans|the latest update]] regarding this extension.
* In 3 weeks, in the Vector 2022 skin, code related to <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>addPortletLink</nowiki></code></bdi> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>#p-namespaces</nowiki></code></bdi> that was deprecated one year ago will be removed. If you notice tools that should appear next to the "Discussion" tab are then missing, please tell the gadget's maintainers to see [[phab:T347907|instructions in the Phabricator task]].
* Starting May 21, English Wikipedia and German Wikipedia will get the possibility to activate "[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]]". This is part of the [[phab:T304110|progressive deployment of this tool to all Wikipedias]]. These communities can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Community configuration|activate and configure the feature locally]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308144]


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== Tech News: 2023-43 ==
== Tech News: 2024-20 ==


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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2024/20|Translations]] are available.


'''Recent changes'''
'''Recent changes'''
* On Wikisource there is a special page listing pages of works without corresponding scan images. Now you can use the new magic word <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>__EXPECTWITHOUTSCANS__</code></bdi> to exclude certain pages (list of editions or translations of works) from that list. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T344214]
* There is a new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Language engineering/Newsletter/2023/October|Language and internationalization newsletter]], written quarterly. It contains updates on new feature development, improvements in various language-related technical projects, and related support work.
* If you use the [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|user-preference]] "{{int:tog-uselivepreview}}", then the template-page feature "{{int:Templatesandbox-editform-legend}}" will now also work without reloading the page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136907]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] Source map support has been enabled on all wikis. When you open the debugger in your browser's developer tools, you should be able to see the unminified JavaScript source code. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T47514]
* [[mw:Special:Mylanguage/Extension:Kartographer|Kartographer]] maps can now specify an alternative text via the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>alt=</nowiki></code></bdi> attribute. This is identical in usage to the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code><nowiki>alt=</nowiki></code></bdi> attribute in the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Images#Syntax|image and gallery syntax]]. An exception for this feature is wikis like Wikivoyage where the miniature maps are interactive. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T328137]
* The old [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GuidedTour|Guided Tour]] for the "[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit Review Improvements/New filters for edit review|New Filters for Edit Review]]" feature has been removed. It was created in 2017 to show people with older accounts how the interface had changed, and has now been seen by most of the intended people. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217451]


'''Changes later this week'''
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.2|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-24|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-25|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-26|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.43/wmf.5|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2024-05-14|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2024-05-15|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2024-05-16|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.43/Roadmap|calendar]]). [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Train][https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Yearly_calendar]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] The [[{{#special:search}}]] results page will now use CSS flex attributes, for better accessibility, instead of a table. If you have a gadget or script that adjusts search results, you should update your script to the new HTML structure. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T320295]

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'''Recent changes'''
* The Structured Content team, as part of its project of [[:commons:Commons:WMF support for Commons/Upload Wizard Improvements|improving UploadWizard on Commons]], made some UX improvements to the upload step of choosing own vs not own work ([[phab:T347590|T347590]]), as well as to the licensing step for own work ([[phab:T347756|T347756]]).
* The Design Systems team has released version 1.0.0 of [[wmdoc:codex/latest/|Codex]], the new design system for Wikimedia. See the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Design_Systems_Team/Announcing_Codex_1.0|full announcement about the release of Codex 1.0.0]].

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.3|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2023-10-31|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2023-11-01|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2023-11-02|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.42/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a [[:w:en:International Components for Unicode|library]]. For a brief period on 2 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for many languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Technical Operations/ICU announcement|read more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T345561][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267145]
* Starting November 1, the impact module (Special:Impact) will be upgraded by the Growth team. The new impact module shows newcomers more data regarding their impact on the wiki. It was tested by a few wikis during the last few months. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T336203]


'''Future changes'''
'''Future changes'''
* In the Vector 2022 skin, main pages will be displayed at full width (like special pages). The goal is to keep the number of characters per line large enough. This is related to the coming changes to typography in Vector 2022. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T357706]
* There is [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph/Plans#Roadmap|a proposed plan]] for re-enabling the Graph Extension. You can help by reviewing this proposal and [[mw:Extension_talk:Graph/Plans#c-PPelberg_(WMF)-20231020221600-Update:_20_October|sharing what you think about it]].
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Advanced item]] Two columns of the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:pagelinks table|pagelinks]]</code></bdi> database table (<bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>pl_namespace</code></bdi> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>pl_title</code></bdi>) are being dropped soon. Users must use two columns of the new <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>[[mw:special:MyLanguage/Manual:linktarget table|linktarget]]</code></bdi> table instead (<bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>lt_namespace</code></bdi> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>lt_title</code></bdi>). In your existing SQL queries:
* The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Community_configuration_2.0|edit MediaWiki configuration directly]]. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. [[phab:T349757|A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.]]
*# Replace <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>JOIN pagelinks</code></bdi> with <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>JOIN linktarget</code></bdi> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>pl_</code></bdi> with <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>lt_</code></bdi> in the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>ON</code></bdi> statement
*# Below that add <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>JOIN pagelinks ON lt_id = pl_target_id</code></bdi>
** See <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[phab:T222224]]</bdi> for technical reasoning. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T222224][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T299947]


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== [[mediawiki:Newpages-summary]] ==


I felt the need to apologize after i removed your babel. [[Special:Contributions/85.99.19.213|85.99.19.213]] ([[User talk:85.99.19.213|talk]]) 17:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi Xaosflux, thanks for protecting and editing my fork of the Page Curation script. I noticed that you had edited the MediaWiki page to include the script, but I think you might have substituted the wrong link. The fork is of [[User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js|this script]] which is linked in the sentence "A user script for accessing the Page Curation tool is also available". Could you link it there instead please? All the best and thanks for your IntAdmin work. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Schminnte|'''Schminnte''']]</span> <sup>&#91;[[User talk:Schminnte|''talk to me'']]&#93;</sup> 19:15, 2 November 2023 (UTC)


:@[[User:Schminnte|Schminnte]] hi there, sorry if I got the wrong link somewhere and I'll certainly work to fix it. I'm not exactly what needs to be changed though, could you clarify? Which page needs to be edited, and which text should be changed to which new text? Best regards, — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:24, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
:No worries, I occasionally make technical edits there but want to be clear I don't understand the language. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
::Certainly :)
::* The page that needs to be edited is [[MediaWiki:Newpages-summary]],
::* The line at the bottom ({{TQ|An alternative [[User:Schminnte/PageCuration|script]] is available for the same.}}) should be reverted back to {{TQ|An alternative [[User:Lourdes/SpecialNewPages|script]] is available for the same.}} as this is a different script from the one in forking,
::*The link in the fmbox ({{TQ|A [[Wikipedia:PageCuration script|user script]] for accessing the Page Curation tool is also available.}}) should either be changed to link to [[User:Schminnte/PageCuration]], or the redirect should be re-targeted to that page.
::Thanks again, <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Schminnte|'''Schminnte''']]</span> <sup>&#91;[[User talk:Schminnte|''talk to me'']]&#93;</sup> 19:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Schminnte|Schminnte]] thank you!
:::#I reverted my change
:::#I changed [[Wikipedia:PageCuration script]] to point to [[User:Schminnte/PageCuration]]
:::# (unrelated) I deleted <code><nowiki>An alternative [[User:Lourdes/SpecialNewPages|script]] is available for the same.</nowiki></code> all together, as that script is unmaintained now.
::::Miss anything? — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:41, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
::::Don't think so, thanks for everything! <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Schminnte|'''Schminnte''']]</span> <sup>&#91;[[User talk:Schminnte|''talk to me'']]&#93;</sup> 20:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

== Help ==

Hello!

Any idea what could be going wrong in [[sq:Stampa:Artikulli i javës|here]]? It shows a file broken link but not sure where that is coming from. I've spent like 6 hours checking everything but still have no clue. - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 22:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:Better now? I null edited the dependent templates to force them to recalculate. Way too much dynamic loading going on in my opinion. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 22:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
::Ah... So nothing was wrong per se... Thank you!<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Yeah... I know what you mean. I've tried making things as easy/automatic as I've can. Everything comes with a drawback. If things get heavy I'll start changing them back. Thank you again! {{Smiley|:-)}}<span id="Klein_Muçi:1699053450714:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt">—&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 23:17, 3 November 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::Can you please take a look at the link above again and our main page and tell me what is going on with the border and padding? Is this a still a problem arising from the aforementioned dynamic loading? Is the specific chosen photo problematic? It's been 2 days now trying to solve it, ever since you fixed the problem with the broken link, but nothing seems to work. <br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>This is the CSS page: [[sq:Stampa:Artikulli i javës/styles.css|Link]]<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>The photo is supposed to have an inline border and align with the text body with a small padding in-between.<span id="Klein_Muçi:1699184953898:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 11:49, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</span>
::::I'm not exactly sure and don't have time to delve in to all of it. First thing to check, it looks like some of that image is getting styles with multiple template style loads on the template, but only one of those is on the main page (is what you are missing in: Stampa:Artikulli i javës/styles.css ?) — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 12:00, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::That works in unifying the looks but all sections have their own CSS page. Do they all need to be included in the Main Page? I thought it was enough to include it on the local template page and if you transcluded it, it would come with the associated styles as well. Am I wrong in that assumption?<span id="Klein_Muçi:1699186163835:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:09, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</span>
::::::Apparently with the other cases the inclusion doesn't make a difference but with that template it does. Hmm...<span id="Klein_Muçi:1699186363609:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:12, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</span>
:::::::It looks like on the template, you have the templatestyles in the "noinclude" section, so they would not be used when the template is called. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 12:17, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Why would I do that... :'( You are right. That solved the problem. Now I just need to give them the correct styling I suppose. Thank you very much!<span id="Klein_Muçi:1699187047295:User_talkFTTCLNXaosflux" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:24, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</span>

== Request ==

I've started a revamp of [[Wikipedia:Tools/Optimum tool set]].

Please take a look and let me know if there are any essential techniques or must have tools that you think should be included.

Thank you.

Sincerely, <span class="nowrap">&nbsp;&nbsp; &mdash; ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|The&nbsp;Transhumanist]]''&nbsp;&nbsp; </span> 06:40, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

== Watchlist messages ==

So, rather than go ahead and kill even more electrons on [[MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-messages]] with the clearly-excessive 37-step repro I have written up,<ref group="aside">Too many of the steps started to look like{{ulist|"click on 'skip this survey' and dismiss the popup and all the other not-very-welcoming stuff we inflict on new users", and|"stop to chat with the userspace police, who've [[User talk:Very obvious temporary account|shown up on your usertalk to complain]] that the account name you picked is illegal despite you only existing for half an hour, you've never made an edit, and [[WP:USERNAME]] says nothing of the sort", and especially|"you might want to stop now, unless you want to find out what happens when the zero-edit account you've just granted extended-confirmed with your admin goes ahead and disrupts RFA ''and'' everybody's watchlist to prove this point".}}</ref> is there ''any'' way I can convince you to just turn on the gadget (if you have it off), reload your watchlist, and type <code>mw.storage.get('hidewatchlistmessages')</code> into a console? Not getting 596 in the results anymore despite having dismissed the RFA message is 95% of the proof, and I suppose I could demonstrate the rest over on testwiki if it's kosher to hand out interface-admin there. —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] 00:38, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:Regarding that test, same result before and after disabling the notice:
:<syntaxhighlight lang=js>
:>mw.storage.get('hidewatchlistmessages')
:<null</syntaxhighlight>
:However I have no recollection of what I may or may not have recently dismissed. It does sound like the 'empty the storage' may be running when it shouldn't, and I pinged in the last script developer who had requested changes to the conversation on the wl talk page. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:01, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
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== Bug? ==

If you use <nowiki>{{Special:NewPages|namespace=0|limit=1}}</nowiki> you get this result:
{{Special:NewPages|namespace=0|limit=1}}

If you inspect its classes you'll see that the talk and contribute links are inside a single class called "mw-usertoollinks" but article history and edit are not. The parentheses, space and pipe characters are plain text, outside of the classes themselves. Therefore, if you decide to hide them, like I tried [[sq:Stampa:Artikuj të rinj|here]], you'll get left with those characters with no way to target them (JS aside). Is this considered a bug? Can I talk with someone for this to be changed? I can of course just open a phab ticket but not sure how to report the problem in a clear way without using live examples like I did here. - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:55, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Xaosflux, thanks for protecting and editing my fork of the Page Curation script. I noticed that you had edited the MediaWiki page to include the script, but I think you might have substituted the wrong link. The fork is of this script which is linked in the sentence "A user script for accessing the Page Curation tool is also available". Could you link it there instead please? All the best and thanks for your IntAdmin work. Schminnte [talk to me] 19:15, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Schminnte hi there, sorry if I got the wrong link somewhere and I'll certainly work to fix it. I'm not exactly what needs to be changed though, could you clarify? Which page needs to be edited, and which text should be changed to which new text? Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 19:24, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly :)
  • The page that needs to be edited is MediaWiki:Newpages-summary,
  • The line at the bottom (An alternative script is available for the same.) should be reverted back to An alternative script is available for the same. as this is a different script from the one in forking,
  • The link in the fmbox (A user script for accessing the Page Curation tool is also available.) should either be changed to link to User:Schminnte/PageCuration, or the redirect should be re-targeted to that page.
Thanks again, Schminnte [talk to me] 19:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Schminnte thank you!
  1. I reverted my change
  2. I changed Wikipedia:PageCuration script to point to User:Schminnte/PageCuration
  3. (unrelated) I deleted An alternative [[User:Lourdes/SpecialNewPages|script]] is available for the same. all together, as that script is unmaintained now.
Miss anything? — xaosflux Talk 19:41, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Don't think so, thanks for everything! Schminnte [talk to me] 20:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Hello!

Any idea what could be going wrong in here? It shows a file broken link but not sure where that is coming from. I've spent like 6 hours checking everything but still have no clue. - Klein Muçi (talk) 22:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Better now? I null edited the dependent templates to force them to recalculate. Way too much dynamic loading going on in my opinion. — xaosflux Talk 22:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah... So nothing was wrong per se... Thank you!
Yeah... I know what you mean. I've tried making things as easy/automatic as I've can. Everything comes with a drawback. If things get heavy I'll start changing them back. Thank you again! — Klein Muçi (talk) 23:17, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please take a look at the link above again and our main page and tell me what is going on with the border and padding? Is this a still a problem arising from the aforementioned dynamic loading? Is the specific chosen photo problematic? It's been 2 days now trying to solve it, ever since you fixed the problem with the broken link, but nothing seems to work.
This is the CSS page: Link
The photo is supposed to have an inline border and align with the text body with a small padding in-between. — Klein Muçi (talk) 11:49, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not exactly sure and don't have time to delve in to all of it. First thing to check, it looks like some of that image is getting styles with multiple template style loads on the template, but only one of those is on the main page (is what you are missing in: Stampa:Artikulli i javës/styles.css ?) — xaosflux Talk 12:00, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That works in unifying the looks but all sections have their own CSS page. Do they all need to be included in the Main Page? I thought it was enough to include it on the local template page and if you transcluded it, it would come with the associated styles as well. Am I wrong in that assumption? — Klein Muçi (talk) 12:09, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently with the other cases the inclusion doesn't make a difference but with that template it does. Hmm... — Klein Muçi (talk) 12:12, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like on the template, you have the templatestyles in the "noinclude" section, so they would not be used when the template is called. — xaosflux Talk 12:17, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why would I do that... :'( You are right. That solved the problem. Now I just need to give them the correct styling I suppose. Thank you very much! — Klein Muçi (talk) 12:24, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request

I've started a revamp of Wikipedia:Tools/Optimum tool set.

Please take a look and let me know if there are any essential techniques or must have tools that you think should be included.

Thank you.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   06:40, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Watchlist messages

So, rather than go ahead and kill even more electrons on MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-messages with the clearly-excessive 37-step repro I have written up, is there any way I can convince you to just turn on the gadget (if you have it off), reload your watchlist, and type mw.storage.get('hidewatchlistmessages') into a console? Not getting 596 in the results anymore despite having dismissed the RFA message is 95% of the proof, and I suppose I could demonstrate the rest over on testwiki if it's kosher to hand out interface-admin there. —Cryptic 00:38, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Too many of the steps started to look like
  • "click on 'skip this survey' and dismiss the popup and all the other not-very-welcoming stuff we inflict on new users", and
  • "stop to chat with the userspace police, who've shown up on your usertalk to complain that the account name you picked is illegal despite you only existing for half an hour, you've never made an edit, and WP:USERNAME says nothing of the sort", and especially
  • "you might want to stop now, unless you want to find out what happens when the zero-edit account you've just granted extended-confirmed with your admin goes ahead and disrupts RFA and everybody's watchlist to prove this point".
Regarding that test, same result before and after disabling the notice:
:>mw.storage.get('hidewatchlistmessages')
:<null
However I have no recollection of what I may or may not have recently dismissed. It does sound like the 'empty the storage' may be running when it shouldn't, and I pinged in the last script developer who had requested changes to the conversation on the wl talk page. — xaosflux Talk 10:01, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There's a fallback in the gadget js, mw.storage.session.get('hidewatchlistmessages'), that's used if mw.storage.get(...) fails. I had thought it was intended for old versions of MediaWiki, or perhaps minority or mobile browsers - both of the ones I tested with use mw.storage; I didn't try on mobile - but it's documented to last only the lifetime of the open browser tab. Try that?
Anyway, the gadget is mostly doing what it says it should do: it removes old cookie-ids that are no longer referenced. (It fails to do that if there are no hidden or hideable messages at all, so it forever stores the last one to expire, maybe intentionally, maybe not; in practice, there's always another watchlist message between RFAs.) The problem is the way we've been abusing it with the RFA message, which removes itself entirely - not just makes itself invisible - when there are no RFAs, and updates itself immediately when the number of RFAs changes. Even if nobody looks at their watchlist or is irritated enough to complain about it between when a new RFA starts and when the cookie is manually updated, it's still going to say "there are 2 rfas open" as soon as a second one opens to people who haven't dismissed the message yet, no matter that we wait a half a day to bump the number on Mediawiki:Watchlist-messages a second time. —Cryptic 15:50, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like the fix needs to be to not purge the old values, waiting for the response from the last script writer that I expect is related to that. As far as the edge case of:
  1. There is a visible RFA that has a new cookie
  2. You don't dismiss it
  3. A second simultaneous RFA opens saying "there are n RFA's"
  4. You dismiss it during the window before its cookie gets incremented by an admin
  5. The RFA cookie gets incremented
  6. The WLN shows
I don't think that alone is going to get solved while being able to maintain some of the automation; but it is quite a small edge case.
xaosflux Talk 16:15, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't particularly concerned about this case, no, other than that some of the options for dealing with my complaint would also fix that. We're not really saving much effort from the automation anyway since we're still manually updating the cookie numbers. I'd be happy to take over maintenance of the rfa messages if we went to an more-manual method, btw, so this isn't entirely a "This doesn't working exactly how I want! You, over there, do more unpaid labor for me!" complaint.
Documentation for mw.storage warns that the space is limited - albeit in the context of old keys, I don't know if it also applies to their values - so I don't know whether leaving all the values in there forever is wise. Not a webdev. —Cryptic 16:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agree, also think there is something else going on here - I still haven't been able to replicate the actual problem even if I can replicate some of the signals. — xaosflux Talk 17:44, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Bug?

If you use {{Special:NewPages|namespace=0|limit=1}} you get this result:

29 May 2024


If you inspect its classes you'll see that the talk and contribute links are inside a single class called "mw-usertoollinks" but article history and edit are not. The parentheses, space and pipe characters are plain text, outside of the classes themselves. Therefore, if you decide to hide them, like I tried here, you'll get left with those characters with no way to target them (JS aside). Is this considered a bug? Can I talk with someone for this to be changed? I can of course just open a phab ticket but not sure how to report the problem in a clear way without using live examples like I did here. - Klein Muçi (talk) 12:55, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Klein Muçi this does not appear to be a bug, just something that doesn't exist. It appears to be the mediawiki default behavior as well. You can open a feature request at phabricator. Leave out anything superfluous (such as "if you use x in a transclusion" - as this happens on the native output as well). Your request would be something like
  • Story: I want to be able to target the group of page tool links on Special:NewPages with css to style them differently.
    • Then as a comment, perhaps a suggestion to "add a span element with a unique class to the output of Special:NewPages between the '.a with class mw-newpages-pagename' and '.span with class mw-newpages-length'".
xaosflux Talk 14:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:04, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Inform before blocking, explain about blocking, guide to avoid blocking.

No clue what this ip wanted, they got blocked elsewise

I invite this page owner to discuss some important isuues to make every moment,user and effort productive and copetative for overall well being of everyone and everything who are part of Wikipedia in any manner. Kindly pay attention and free your time to be with me for a while Mister/Miss/Misses XOASFLUX. Don't you dare to miss it once you did to mess it. Come and start. I am here only. Bring some operations manual given to you for performing adminship along.22:17, 6 November 2023 (UTC) 2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 22:17, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why you are misusing your admin powers to take other admins blocking legacy forward? I had appreciated you by calling you a helpful admin. I praised you while talking to my friend user. You can ask to verify. My friend is not given adminship yet otherwise I wouldn't be facing these difficulty. Read above message and join me as soon as possible. Call your boss and take special permission to discuss with me you find less time for it. Apply a sick leave, accident leave or marriage leave, whatever reason doesn't matter false , give and free yourself for this. I am awaiting Mr/Ms/Mrs XOASFLUX. 📢2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 22:30, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, you will need to be more specific, that address has never been blocked. — xaosflux Talk 23:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What does Wikipedia want me do?2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 00:53, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What does Wikipedia want me do? Why did you delete my content that I wrote yesterday night ? Why my mobile phone's more than 50 screenshots are having you proving you blocked me? 2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 00:59, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You better know who needs to be more specific, me or Wikipedia? I would suggest you not to assume who was what instead give my questions answer. Be honest. I don't care if you are going to murder me but do inform . I can lose myself to honest people. I neither can give nor take a second if you are a cheater/lier/dishonest/cruel/irresponsible/undiciplined. Egnore bad English not me I am more bad than it.2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 01:12, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what you are talking about. If you have a question about a block I made, see the list of them here, be specific as to exactly which block you are asking about. Note, I haven't blocked anyone here on the English Wikipedia in almost 2 months. — xaosflux Talk 02:29, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Send your WhatsApp number lier. I'm sending you all photos. Instead of accepting what you did you are protecting yourself. I don't like this nature. I never hide if I do wrong. I don't care if people hate me. I am not a people pleaser. What specific?? Wikipedia needs to be specific, I don't. Mind it and eat your mind in regret. !! God sees all. I trust him. 2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 02:46, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fight with me whole day. I challenge you for full time one to one combat. Later you can take all your gangs with you to counter me like Ganiac, Fr33man, Daniel, LS35 and many more with your entire brigade and I alon this side. I never forget name and face. I never forget what wrong I did to someone and what wrong someone did to me. Remember I am not who compromise or surrender without knowing the truth. I win or I lose I don't care but I do care what I am yet to know inspite of losing everything in attempts of knowing it. Do you have any idea how critial my situation was that became again a Suicidal state against I was already fighting a battle without medicine and doctor. I lost my students. I shut my classroom that I had started after lock down breakdown of almost 3 years. My half family members was in different hospitals. I was in Emergency of another hospital. Rest were permanent paitent of something already. Do you want proof? I can send all.I always worshipped knowledge and Wikipedia broke me like no other. I was about to hang this time for final successful result. Could it be worse?? 😭😭😭 Wikipedia blocked me in emails long ago. Who does this ?? No one today replies also except very few master pieces who says day's name if you ask them vegetable name !! How many emails for help which are not received yet ?? Any idea ??? I again gave Wikipedia money in toughest time. No confirmation no reply of anything. I am in war with thier email donor company Zendesk, you know? And many more, much more. You are admin but butcher in nature. Why this death plan wasn't in Wikipedia's work culture ?? I can bet thousands of innocent users would have killed themselves just because of this harrasment treat of Wikipedia. Remember not anyone is me. Why Wikipedia can't feel the pain, loneliness, guilt feel and hundreds of self harming acts of a victim in such case ?? Will Wikipedia give me students, books to write for thousands if school teachers and bear my all medical expenses?? Why this terror. Doesn't anyone from Wikipedia ever cry over sorrows??😭😭😭 My Wikipedia friend user is not allowed to reply me and I am told that user I am bad !! Already I don't have any friend in life. Where should I go then ?? Heaven or hell? Will Wikipedia buy poison for me to travel there?? Block me from commenting , it will be good for Wikipedia and you and every other admins in your gang. Not just book writing , classroom, government project I lost film writing work too. Who works in such Suicidal state ?? Others may be working but I can't. I am not a super man. I need positive and happy mind to perform anything. I would love to share each proofs what I'm telling about. 😭😭😭 2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 02:39, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).

Administrator changes

added 0xDeadbeef
readded Tamzin
removed Dennis Brown

Interface administrator changes

added Pppery
removed
  • Ragesoss
  • TheresNoTime

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
  • There is a proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal is requested.

Arbitration

  • Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
  • Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
  • Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
  • Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
  • Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
  • Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
  • An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

Miscellaneous

  • The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:24, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gadget tags for sister projects

Howdy. I noticed that a couple years back we got some new tags for the gadgets, like "default", "sister", etc. I was wondering if there were any relevant discussions about the introduction of those tags that I could look at for some of the reasoning behind introducing them? Thank you. Enterprisey (talk!) 22:32, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Enterprisey not a lot, there is some discussion in phab:T65598 about the (E) marking - and I sort of took that upon myself to start doing something to try to mitigate some of those concerns. The (D) default one is half-implemented in software now (it displays in Special:Gadgets but not yet in Special:Preferences (phab:T51501 may one day implement that). The S, and U were things I came up with mostly in isolation to help our users make better risk decisions for themselves. I'm wide open to any feedback, additional improvements or workshopping overhauls if you would like. — xaosflux Talk 23:41, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2023-46

MediaWiki message delivery 23:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox template

Hello, Xaosflux!

Can you please help me understand and adapt a specific part of {{Sandbox heading}}? I just want to know how the button to "reset the sandbox" works. What are those pages and those edit id numbers? What exactly would I need to put for my homewiki if we are using this page as a sandbox: sq:WP:Livadhi ? - Klein Muçi (talk) 11:58, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Klein Muçi those are just some "know good versions" from the history of those various sandboxes, e.g: Special:Permalink/1152694269 is a known good version of Wikipedia talk:Sandbox. — xaosflux Talk 13:38, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So to adapt it for my homewiki I just set it to a known good old version of our page? What exactly happens with those versions? Are they edited? Restored? What happens when you edit an old version of a page as I've never tried that before. Just asking so I don't end up ruining page histories in general. — Klein Muçi (talk) 13:49, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It makes a link with the &oldid parameter, which is the same if you go to a page, go to the history, and open an old version. — xaosflux Talk 13:56, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! — Klein Muçi (talk) 14:28, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adding template

Hello @Xaosflux I have seen that you have interface-admin right here so I am confirmed that you have some knowledge of CSS or JavaScript so can you help adding protected page template to Public Test Wiki. Nexovia (talk) 12:44, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

testwiki:Template:Pp already exists. Keep in mind, it is just for testing things we don't actually mark up every protected page with it there. — xaosflux Talk 13:32, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :)

Hi

Just wanted to say thanks very much for making me the template on Meta, the request got archived just after you replied so couldn't reply there.

Thanks again

John Cummings (talk) 13:53, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hope it works out for you! — xaosflux Talk 13:56, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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—asparagusus (interaction) sprouts! 14:10, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Asparagusus  Done you may want to follow up with that editor on copyvios, COI, and USERNAME issues. — xaosflux Talk 14:18, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks! :) —asparagusus (interaction) sprouts! 14:19, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 20 November 2023

Tech News: 2023-47

MediaWiki message delivery 00:53, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Assistance ?

I tried to create a candidacy statement, and I think that my candidacy statement is in some sort of limbo. Do I need to start over, or is there somewhere that I can pick up the pieces and continue the process in the next eight hours? Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:06, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Robert McClenon thank you for self-nominating. Your statement was created and is located here: Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023/Candidates/Robert McClenon/Statement; the minimum needed to complete the nomination is to transclude it to the candidates page. Edit this section of this page: Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2023/Candidates#Standing_candidates and insert your candidate page along with the others. There may be some other pages to clean up (talk pages, the questions page, etc - but those can be cleaned up after). — xaosflux Talk 16:50, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I didn't know that I was allowed to do that. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:38, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You're in; any other cleanups someone else may handle. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 18:45, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, the coordinators can assist and getting all the other pages set up. Thanks for applying. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 19:55, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request for deletion

Dear Xaosflux, Hello, I'm going to accept an draft submission Draft:Environmental issues in Myanmar but I saw this topic is already exist in article namespace and redirect to Myanmar, so, I request to you please delete Environmental issues in Myanmar and I will be able to accept this submission only after this page is deletion, I'm waiting for deletion of this page under WP:G6. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Aviram7 not sure why you looked for me on this one, but I've gone ahead and deleted Environmental issues in Myanmar under the CSD. — xaosflux Talk 14:20, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Xaosflux, Thanks for about that. :) ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:57, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:48, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Protection of Template:CatAutoTOC

I would like to clarify Special:Diff/1188777839 – removal of protection from Template:CatAutoTOC. Per transclusion counter, it has more than half a million transclusions. It seems that the removal of protection was done by accident. Perhaps it was supposed to be upgraded from template protection (it was protected since 2019) to full protection? —⁠andrybak (talk) 20:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrybak thank you for your vigilance. I had indeed intended to move that the other way (to FP); this should now be resolved. — xaosflux Talk 21:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – December 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).

Administrator changes

added
removed
  • Ajpolino
  • Lourdes
  • Mairi
  • RockMFR
  • Somno
  • WilyD
renamed BeeblebroxJust Step Sideways

CheckUser changes

removed
  • Beeblebrox
  • Opabinia regalis

Oversight changes

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Guideline and policy news

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Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
  • The Arbitration Committee has announced a call for Checkusers and Oversighters, stating that it will currently be accepting applications for CheckUser and/or Oversight permissions at any point in the year.
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Tech News: 2023-50

MediaWiki message delivery 02:11, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Santa Claus machine for deletion

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Seasons Greetings!

Happy holidays, ya filthy animal.

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The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1(The Garage) 01:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A solstice greeting

❄️ Happy holidays! ❄️

Hi Xaosflux! I'd like to wish you a splendid solstice season as we wrap up the year. Here is an artwork, made individually for you, to celebrate. Looking forward to collaborating more on interface work in the coming year! Take care, and thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia better!
Cheers,
{{u|Sdkb}}talk
Solstice Celebration for Xaosflux, 2023, DALL·E 3. (View full series) Note: The vibes are winter solsticey. If you're in the southern hemisphere, oops, apologies.
Solstice Celebration for Xaosflux, 2023, DALL·E 3.
Note: The vibes are winter solsticey. If you're in the southern hemisphere, oops, apologies.

{{u|Sdkb}}talk 07:11, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 24 December 2023

badge

Thanks for replying, but the page you recommend:: (https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org) is the very one I I get when I click login. And I've never prohibited scripts etc. John Wheater (talk) 15:07, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JohnWheater would you please contact TWL people directly via: wikipedialibrary@wikimedia.org. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 15:11, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Thank you so much for all your work coordinating the elections. It couldn’t have happened without you. From helping with the guide to posting the final results, you did a great job running a smooth election. Thanks! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 01:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hidden ToC dis-appeares on it's own during scrolling

[[41]]

Sorry, a little late.

With "Zebra 1" the scrolling is OK, i.e. I can scroll down to the bottom.

Steue (talk) 06:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Steue thanks for the update, this should have been rolled out for the fix without having to use the Zebra feature parameter now as well. — xaosflux Talk 11:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
Thanks for all your work on the election! -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 09:27, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

Administrator changes

added Clovermoss
readded Dennis Brown
removed
  • Julia W
  • Marasmusine
  • PBS

CheckUser changes

added
  • Aoidh
  • HJ Mitchell
  • Sdrqaz
  • Spicy
  • ToBeFree
  • Vanamonde93
  • Z1720
readded Maxim
removed
  • Enterprisey
  • Izno
  • SilkTork

Oversighter changes

added
  • Aoidh
  • Firefly
  • Sdrqaz
  • ToBeFree
  • Z1720
readded Maxim
removed
  • Enterprisey
  • Izno
  • SilkTork

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


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Tech News: 2024-02

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Transfer of user's right

Citing you (from here) that "There is no technical mechanism to "transfer" access from one account to another. Users with the ability to manage permissions may technically add and remove permissions groups from accounts individually. ..." That's what transfer means to my mind when submitting the question and the possibility of it was what I meant to ask. Thanks for ensuring that this is possible.
Moreover, I asked about that on Village pump (policy) because I guessed it's part of Wikipedia policy regarding the transfer possibility. It's not like I was asking if there's a magical button to enable instant transfer that could make me asking about this (possibility of right transfer) on Village pump (Technical) or Village pump (Idea lab). Natsuikomin (talk) 22:12, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 10 January 2024

Response about my talk page

Hey, yeah sorry my talk page is large. I've been waiting on the mediawiki team working on enhancing talk page experience to roll out automated page management which preserved linking to the topic headers. Possibly that is supported now? Seeing now that my talk page can't be saved, I wouldn't mind the help. I still think this should be solved by the Mediawiki configuration and not by ad-hoc user scripts and bots as this is a core function of communication and linking should be preserved. See my previous note User talk:Wolfgang8741#Archiving though I'm not opposed to getting some help. I don't have time at the moment to move some of the automated newsletter posts like "Wikidata weekly summary #430" and " This Month in GLAM: September 2020" to their own subpages and probably the largest offenders for space. I don't link to those posts typically, but do reference them and do link to other conversation on and off wiki. I just don't remember where those newsletters are configured to fix where they post and would love if they linked back to manage that so users can find it easier. Sorry for not managing this, I was hoping it would be fixed by the system updating to something that didn't break links and broadly implement pagination. Wolfgang8741 says: If not you, then who? (talk) 19:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wolfgang8741 it happens, and it isn't a huge deal. I agree that scripts and bots can be problematic in this matter! I can give your page a try to just get it easily usable in the short-term with a one-time archive (and if you don't like it just revert we are a wiki after all! Technically the mass-message newsletters reveal their list, but it is in the form of a hidden comment on the page source (e.g. that one is here). Hope you don't think I'm singling you out here, someone linked your page in an example of very large pages in another discussion and I thought you could use some help. Things are certainly easier if editors can just worry about making the encyclopedia better and not this technical stuff! — xaosflux Talk 20:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I didn't get an email, however if this is in reference to ticket:2024012510010752 - it is open and being discussed still. — xaosflux Talk 16:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 31 January 2024

Administrators' newsletter – February 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

Administrator changes

added
removed
  • Ameliorate!
  • Ancheta Wis
  • Anthony Bradbury (deceased)
  • Cobi
  • Ev
  • Moondyne
  • Worm That Turned

Bureaucrat changes

removed Worm That Turned

CheckUser changes

removed Wugapodes

Interface administrator changes

removed
  • Enterprisey
  • Izno

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
  • Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

Miscellaneous

  • Voting in the 2024 Steward elections will begin on 06 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 27 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
  • A vote to ratify the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via Secure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found here.
  • Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the Community Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. Read more
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SWMT

Dear Xaosflux, Hi and can you add my alternative account's name on SWMT Whitelist on per my request.😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That seems fine, but I don't normally deal with that - can you link me to the whitelist page you are referencing? — xaosflux Talk 14:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Xaosflux, thanks for reply, I've sending you an screenshort of SWMT whitelist My this account is added by mahler on my request before 1 year. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I don't understand exactly what you are asking. Is there a page you want me to edit? If so, please provide a link. — xaosflux Talk 14:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Xaosflux,I'm talking about the whitelist that m:Small Wiki Monitoring Team looks like, which can only be put on the list by stewards, Bureucrats or administrators, you see at the top a picture of a Small Wiki Monitoring Team I see, I understand by giving you an example-On whitelist added by loftyabyss: No reason reason. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Aviram7 if you don't give me a link to list you want me to edit, I can't do anything for you. If you don't know this, please follow up at meta:Talk:Small Wiki Monitoring Team. — xaosflux Talk 15:11, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'm ready to following you as you on meta:Talk:Small Wiki Monitoring Team. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I report

Hi, User:GoutComplex has been reported at AN/I here and a month ago here, but neither the user or any admin have responded. I think that the user's continuing use of poor sources is a problem and that they should be encouraged to respond to the advice on User talk:GoutComplex. I have added some diffs to the latest report. Do you agree or am I expecting too much from them? I posted here because you were on the list of recently active admins. TSventon (talk) 15:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TSventon I'm not familiar with this issue and don't have time to work on it now. Other patrolling admins at ANI will check on it for you. — xaosflux Talk 15:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I fear that patrolling admins at AN/I have already indicated by their silence that they do not see a major problem. On the other hand, GoutComplex joined the AN/I discussion shortly after I mentioned them on your talk page. TSventon (talk) 15:59, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-06

MediaWiki message delivery 19:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CSS help - section transclusion

Hey Xaos! Can you help me with something UI related?

In our Albanian village pump we have these "windows", called "Dritare", which you can check for yourself here, just below the main header. The idea is to have our VP act as a central hub where admins/experienced users can quickly check the main pages of our community through the so-called "windows" and interact with them to solve any issues without having to leave the page. This is achieved through section transclusion and it works rather fine on its own. Been using it for quite some months now. I was recently thinking to enhance it by introducing a new feature: "Non-empty" windows will have red backgrounds to indicate their backlog status and hopefully draw the attention of interested volunteers. Is there a way you think this can be achieved using only CSS? The problem lies on the "non-empty" part because they're never empty per se, having HTML tags and Mediawiki templates in them. I mean "non-empty" as in "not having any sections/issues open". I'm not sure how to handle targeting in this case or if it is even possible. Maybe that's not achievable using only CSS? - Klein Muçi (talk) 11:55, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Klein Muçi sorry, can't think of a pure CSS route for that. Also, it looks like you are really transcluding those entire page contents? (e.g. w:sq:Wikipedia:Administrata/Votimet/Kandidatura për administratorë/Kandidatura nga të tjerë not just a section of the page) - so page transclusion may be smoother then section tranclusion (which is known to be buggy). As you have these collapsed, I'm assuming you actually want to color the collapsed titles in w:sq:Wikipedia:Kuvendi/Hyrja? (Because otherwise the user still would have to bother expanding it to see the 'red' - and at that point they would already be seeing the 'empty'. So that means you'd be stuck with some javascript - to check for the presence of some sub.sub element, then have it change the class of the area to recolor. Short answer: CSS can't do complex conditionals. Potential workaround could be procedural, "when clearing this page, uncomment the {{empty}} line" - which could emmit something. — xaosflux Talk 13:27, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reason I went with sections instead of pages is because in that page you linked (admin-related one) the sections are supposed to always be there and that wouldn't show the usual "empty appearance" in the window while also showing the section titles forever in the VP's TOC. And yes, I want the background of the collapsed titles to be red. That's what I thought. Is there a way to have page-related JS instead of utilizing the common.js page? Similar to using page/styles.css for CSS styling? - Klein Muçi (talk) 13:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not yet. But if the target for who needs to see that color change is very low, you could use an opt-in gadget. — xaosflux Talk 14:14, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, interesting idea. Hadn't thought of that approach. Well, I guess that answers all my questions. Just one more thing out of personal curiosity: You say "not yet". Am I to understand there are on-going Phab requests about this? Or was it just in the general sense? - Klein Muçi (talk) 14:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
phab:T241524 is the closest. If you don't mind a button click, you could make a dashboard that you click a load button on the top of, and it can call a gadget with the load (sort of how this page works: WP:MYIP). — xaosflux Talk 14:30, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... This goes a bit heavily on the gadget element. I was hoping for a more direct approach towards scripts in general. While one might argue that there isn't any difference between the two words, I believe in practice there is. For example, some time ago I was forced to use JS to solve an issue on our main page (removing some pipes and parentheses, we've talked about it together too). It would seem a bit weird to call this script "a gadget" and have it stand aside on the Mediawiki NS. It's just a script used to modify a single accompanying page. Anyway, this is just tangentially related to the topic's discussion.
Thank you for your suggestion! Unfortunately, knowing my community, any form of interaction diminishes the chance for help volunteering. The red background thing was thought precisely after the windows themselves still weren't enough to solve some issues which have been left open for years now. Nonetheless thank you for your help! — Klein Muçi (talk) 19:52, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Kelvin Kiptum

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The Signpost: 13 February 2024

Tech News: 2024-07

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Category:Spree killers has been nominated for merging

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Tech News: 2024-08

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Hey there! Could you help me?

I have made a phylogeny tree for Jaklapallisaurus but I'm facing a couple problems:

1) I've tried SO HARD lol to get the basal most genus to be bagualosaurus but it doesn't show up :/

2) "Massopoda" should be sister to unaysauridae + plateosauridae BUT it doesn't wanna budge :/ it's right now sister to unaysauridae only DNB XD (talk) 14:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DNB XD I'm not very familiar with that template, however you need to avoid duplicating template variable values inside each template call (the x=y part). For example, you have {{clade}} being used, but have multiple "1=x" on the same entry. — xaosflux Talk 14:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, thank you! DNB XD (talk) 02:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-09

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An early congratulations

Only one hour until the voting portion of the Steward elections end! I wanted to give you an early congratulations for the 100% keep ratio. You did a great job last year and I hope you continue with the amazing work! -- Grapefanatic (Talk) 13:14, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – March 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

Miscellaneous


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A kitten for you...

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The Signpost: 2 March 2024

Tech News: 2024-10

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Editor experience invitation

Hi Xaosflux :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:15, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-11

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RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I

Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:

  • Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
  • Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
  • Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
  • Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
  • Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
  • Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
  • Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
  • Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
  • Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
  • Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
  • Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
  • Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
  • Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
  • Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
  • Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
  • Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
  • Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

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Remove

@Samral is a sockpuppet pls remove extendedconfirmed rights. @Xaosflux 151.135.11.200 (talk) 13:01, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need to bother removing groups from blocked users. — xaosflux Talk 13:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He annoys me and other users by cursing at you via email. Can you please turn off the email sending feature? 176.218.17.226 (talk) 14:06, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As you are not a registered user, you wouldn't be getting email from us and we can't do anything about someone sending you email directly. If a registred user is having an issue, they can post at WP:ANI. — xaosflux Talk 14:09, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't log in so my username wouldn't show up. Pls turn off email sending. He's a sockpuppet and has no place here anymore. 176.218.17.226 (talk) 14:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not working on this, feel free to report to ANI, a checkuser may need to validate the claim. — xaosflux Talk 14:13, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tech News: 2024-12

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MediaWiki message delivery 18:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User Subpages deletion request.

Good day @Xaosflux please I would like to delete these redirect pages, some where created unintentionally. Please User:Thisasia/common.js/common.js, User:Thisasia/sandbox/common.js User:Thisasia/Status2User:Thisasia/sandbox and these sanebox doc pages, User:Thisasia/sandbox/Doc, User:Thisasia/sandbox/doc and then with User:Thisasia/StatusChanger.js Thanks very much.
Thisasia  (Talk) 01:16, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thisasia looks like someone already did. — xaosflux Talk 09:03, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes indeed. An admin has done that few hours ago, thanks very and have a good time.
Thisasia  (Talk)
09:09, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 29 March 2024

Hi

Hello @Xaosflux, no one is interested in my request. Could you please take a look? Lionel Cristiano? 12:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lionel Cristiano someone will get to it, as you can see there are much older requests backlogged on that page right now. — xaosflux Talk 17:36, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

Administrator changes

removed
  • Kbdank71
  • Kosack
  • NrDg
  • TLSuda

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

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Tech News: 2024-14

MediaWiki message delivery 03:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moomoo

About 4 years ago you put protection on this page as a redirect but the notes say it a was removed.. the redirect seems to be active and i was wondering if you could remove the protection? Thanks QuantWiz (talk) 18:26, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@QuantWiz I actually lowered the protection, though consider it still a vandalism target. If you have an edit request for the page, please use the talk page. Feel free to appeal at WP:RFUP. — xaosflux Talk 18:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the quick reply.. the talk page mentions putting a page for Moomoo the trading app in there which is what i was considering. QuantWiz (talk) 18:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@QuantWiz a good way to do that is to write the page at Draft:Moomoo then ask for it to be moved over when it is ready. — xaosflux Talk 18:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-15

MediaWiki message delivery 23:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up from my edit request.

Could you make a similar adjustment on all of the other padlock pages? Geardona (talk to me?) 16:08, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Geardona please drop edit requests so your ask doesn't get lost. You don't have to "sandbox" them for just updating that file description - just put what you want in the ER. — xaosflux Talk 16:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-16

MediaWiki message delivery 23:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Block me

Hello @Xaosflux, may you do me a favor and block me until May 10th? I have a few real-life obligations that Wikipedia is getting in the way of. Thanks! Bremps... 02:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Donexaosflux Talk 09:15, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-17

MediaWiki message delivery 20:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CHU help

Hey, I can't get any answer @ IRC, I'm working the new request at CHU/S and go a anti-spoof hit, if I had this hit at ACC I'd go ahead and create the account, but here (at rename) it seems different, does this request need to go to CHU/U? - FlightTime (open channel) 19:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

looking. — xaosflux Talk 19:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@FlightTime 8 year old, never contributed - I'm not worried about the conflict. — xaosflux Talk 19:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great, that was my take also. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
JJMC89 says (via IRC) go ahead and rename. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
so thats +2 :) — xaosflux Talk 19:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 19:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 25 April 2024

Sarcasm

Thank you for your sarcastic response to my mistake. I did not mean to press save on the main page in Rater. Ktkvtsh (talk) 22:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktkvtsh I saw you weren't a newbie so hope that didn't come of BITEy or callous - how about we both split this:

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.
? — xaosflux Talk 22:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Haha sounds good. Just felt the need to explain myself. Glad we can both laugh about it.
have a great evening! Ktkvtsh (talk) 22:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just wanted to say... we were all having a laugh about how our main page is just a weedy little stub on Discord. Perhaps we should work to get it to featured article status. I see it's severely lacking on sources! —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 03:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).

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Help for the lame

I have a script installed (somewhere) that allows me to click on "rollback all". I just invoked it at Special:contributions/GauMutra, and it didn't work. I tried it again in case I misclicked, and it still didn't work. Given that I'm not sure who wrote the script, I'm not sure to whom I should go for help. It might be User:Gracenotes, but if it is, they haven't edited in over a decade (a shame, it's a pretty username). Can you help? Sorry for my shortcomings in this area.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23: you have 2 rollback related userscripts:
  1. User:Gracenotes/rollback.js via User:Bbb23/vector.js (should only load when your skin is set to vector) and
  2. User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/massRollback.js via User:Bbb23/common.js
The second of those specifically inserts a "rollback all" link, so I'd start with asking Writ Keeper. — xaosflux Talk 15:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will do; thanks a lot! --Bbb23 (talk) 16:05, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I tried it again just now just in case, and it worked. I don't suppose you know why it didn't work (I use it fairly frequently, so not working is more of an anomaly than working). Writ Keeper?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry no, scripts can be tricky - sometimes they race against each other and can cause oddities, especially if you have many scripts from different places. — xaosflux Talk 00:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would it be better to remove the Gracenotes script? I don't think it ever runs, it's not supported, and the WK script works anyway.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you're not using vector, it shouldn't run. But I suggest removing any script you are not using. Just put "//" at the front of the line to disable it in case you want to use it again later. — xaosflux Talk 01:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am using Vector (Vector Legacy), but I've disabled it anyway. Given that I don't know what it's supposed to do, I can't really know if it ever runs, but if I find I can't rollback the way I wish to, I can always re-enable it. This whole thing makes me tired, but I do appreciate your help.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins

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Sorry for bothering you at trwiki

I felt the need to apologize after i removed your babel. 85.99.19.213 (talk) 17:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, I occasionally make technical edits there but want to be clear I don't understand the language. — xaosflux Talk 18:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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