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I'm not a native arabic speaker so I can't understand every word but I've been studying Arabic and I can read. I did mention on that edit summary that I wasn't sure because many of the English translations in the Internet was saying different than my native language translation. So after that I had to dig deep to find the original detailed hadith where Salim's quote is present, so I added it to the page and mentioned it in the later edit summary. I hope now you can understand me brother. If you still think it's not reliable then I think it'd be best if you contact a native Arabic speaker who has read the original hadith. Thank you. [[User:Ishan87|Ishan87]] ([[User talk:Ishan87|talk]]) 11:34, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
I'm not a native arabic speaker so I can't understand every word but I've been studying Arabic and I can read. I did mention on that edit summary that I wasn't sure because many of the English translations in the Internet was saying different than my native language translation. So after that I had to dig deep to find the original detailed hadith where Salim's quote is present, so I added it to the page and mentioned it in the later edit summary. I hope now you can understand me brother. If you still think it's not reliable then I think it'd be best if you contact a native Arabic speaker who has read the original hadith. Thank you. [[User:Ishan87|Ishan87]] ([[User talk:Ishan87|talk]]) 11:34, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
:What you are doing is covered by [[:WP:OR]], which says that "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation."<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 11:44, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

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The Aafī (talk) 08:05, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Stop undoing other people's edits for no reason!

Wikipedia is not your inherited property. Stop undoing other's edits just because of your personal obsession. If you cause further unnecessary edit wars, your ID will be reported to the authority. You will be banned from editing again. So please respect other people's works and try to help making articles better instead of being being obsessed about something minor. Ishan87 (talk) 14:12, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ishan87, "your ID will be reported to the authority"? Who do you think runs Wikipedia? Pol Pot? Drmies (talk) 14:14, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Drmies I never said I run it or anything. Just giving him a warning Ishan87 (talk) 14:19, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • No, that's not a valid warning. And Toddy1 will not be banned from editing. Cool your jets. Drmies (talk) 14:27, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User Ishan87 Vandalism

I have noticed User:Ishan87 has been vandalsing pages all over with no motivation to reform please issue a ban on such users. SPQR10 (talk) 03:42, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you that he/she is a problem user. But I am not an admin, so I do not have the ability to block or ban him/her.-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:55, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't falsely accuse me! Not a single edit that I made without the intention to make it better. If you have any objections about any topic in particular, I'm open for discussion. If you blaspheme me again without any evidence, I'll be forced to contact admins. Ishan87 (talk) 05:38, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fascinating.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:58, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddy Brother are a Muslim? I'd like to discuss with you before editing the same pages whenever we have diaputes over an issue, and I do not want to go to any edit war. I hope you can help me with my edits and if I make any mistake, please feel free to discuss with me before undoing my edits. Ishan87 (talk) 13:55, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Please do not ask personal questions.
  2. It is clear from your edit summary at Umm Kulthum bint Abi Bakr that you have not a clue about whether it was the woman or the child who got sick, but nevertheless you persist in reverting back to your change from the woman getting sick to the child getting sick. Arabic Wikipedia has the woman getting sick, which was what English-language Wikipedia said before you changed it to say otherwise. I suggest that you self-revert.
-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:50, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddy1 After the edit I've studied the issue more deeply and I've now no doubt that it was Salim who got sick. It's clearly mentioned in the hadith and I've provided a link of an original Arabic version of that text where salim himself mentioned that- "I got sick". Most of the English translations that are available in net are shortened version of the text where Salim's quoting was excluded, and thus the English translation was false. You can read the original Arabic version of the hadith if you want. If you cannot read or understand Arabic then ask someone who's an expert of classical Arabic. Btw, if you're not a Muslim then I don't understand your intentions or obsession with these islamic pages. Mind sharing? Anyway, hopefully this topic is clear to you now. Ishan87 (talk) 11:03, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

But you have admitted that you cannot understand classical Arabic, so you cannot be sure what the original means.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:15, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a native arabic speaker so I can't understand every word but I've been studying Arabic and I can read. I did mention on that edit summary that I wasn't sure because many of the English translations in the Internet was saying different than my native language translation. So after that I had to dig deep to find the original detailed hadith where Salim's quote is present, so I added it to the page and mentioned it in the later edit summary. I hope now you can understand me brother. If you still think it's not reliable then I think it'd be best if you contact a native Arabic speaker who has read the original hadith. Thank you. Ishan87 (talk) 11:34, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What you are doing is covered by WP:OR, which says that "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation."-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:44, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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