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== ''The Bugle'': Issue 218, June 2024 ==
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== Hyderabad ==
;Comments
Here is a list of the editors in chronological order (the number of edits is live edits - quite a few have deleted edits)
*[[Special:Contributions/Dibyanand02]], 22 edits between 2 and 5 September 2012. Created [[:Draft:Nand Nama]], also edited [[:Lakhisarai]] and [[:Lakhisarai district ]].
**Also edits Commons.<sup>[https://guc.toolforge.org/?by=date&user=Dibyanand02]</sup>
*[[Special:Contributions/Lal chowk Ramchandrapur Lakhisarai]], 1 edit on 24 May 2015. Article edited: [[:Lakhisarai]]
*[[Special:Contributions/Lal chowk Ramchandrapur]], 5 edits on 8 June 2015. Articles edited: [[:Lakhisarai]] and [[:Draft:Nand Nama]]. The main effects of the edits to [[:Draft:Nand Nama]] were to remove the infobox and change the name from Nand Nama to Ramchandrapur.
*[[Special:Contributions/Gopalkrsingh10]], 3 edits between 14 July and 1 August 2017, 10 edits between 12 January and 24 February 2019, and 1 edit on 3 February 2021.
**Also edits Commons.<sup>[https://guc.toolforge.org/?by=date&user=Gopalkrsingh10]</sup>
*[[Special:Contributions/Thakur Love Chauhan]], 17 edits between 6 September and 19 August 2021 and 1 edit on 22 July 2022.
**Also edits Commons and Hindi Wikipedia.<sup>[https://guc.toolforge.org/?by=date&user=Thakur+Love+Chauhan]</sup>
*[[Special:Contributions/Atharva Pratap Singh Chauhan]], 25 edits between 26 March and 27 December 2022.
*[[Special:Contributions/Rajesh Chauhan87]], 36 edits between 26 April and 6 September 2022.
**Also edits Commons.<sup>[https://guc.toolforge.org/?by=date&user=Rajesh+Chauhan87]</sup>
*[[Special:Contributions/Guddu Chauhan Official]], 14 edits between 6 and 8 September 2023.
**Also edits Commons and Hindi Wikipedia.<sup>[https://guc.toolforge.org/?by=date&user=Guddu+Chauhan+Official]</sup>
*[[Special:Contributions/Its Guddu Chauhan]], 96 edits between 6 September and 2 October 2023.
**Also edits Commons and Hindi Wikipedia.<sup>[https://guc.toolforge.org/?by=date&user=Its+Guddu+Chauhan]</sup>


Can you simply tell me why you are not allowing me to add updated images? [[User:Ustadeditor2011|Ustadeditor2011]] ([[User talk:Ustadeditor2011|talk]]) 09:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
It seems likely that ''Lal chowk Ramchandrapur Lakhisarai'' and ''Lal chowk Ramchandrapur'' are the same person because of the similarity of name and interests, but their edits were eight years ago. Checkuser will not help unless they have been logging in but not editing (and possibly not then).


;Images
It seems unlikely that ''Dibyanand02'' is ''Lal chowk Ramchandrapur Lakhisarai/Lal chowk Ramchandrapur''. ''Dibyanand02'' called the place ''Nand Nama'', but ''Lal chowk Ramchandrapur Lakhisarai'' tried to change the name in the article to Ramchandrapur.


tell me directly why you are not allowing me to update the images [[User:Ustadeditor2011|Ustadeditor2011]] ([[User talk:Ustadeditor2011|talk]]) 09:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
The name suggests that all the ''Chauhan'' accounts might be the same person.
:<small>edit conflict</small>
:You are allowed to add updated images to the infobox. But they need to be as a montage, not a collection of separate images in a gallery. See [[:Talk:Hyderabad#Infobox images change with new pictures & latest features]].


:And it would help if you added the [[alt attribute]], as has been done in the existing montage. The way to add the alt attribute is <code><nowiki>| image1 = Charminar sumeet photography 3.JPG {{!}} The Charminar during the Ramzan night bazaar</nowiki></code> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 10:05, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
You need to explain why you think these accounts are the same person (other than the similarities of some of the account names and their interests).
::So you make a montage with updated images by me, why are you rubbing 15 year old images in the article in the name of no montage. [[User:Ustadeditor2011|Ustadeditor2011]] ([[User talk:Ustadeditor2011|talk]]) 10:10, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
*Do they have similar editing patterns?
:::The population crossed 10 million in bangalore and hyderabad but there is no official census after 2011. statista un reliable source even for bangalore. [[User:Ustadeditor2011|Ustadeditor2011]] ([[User talk:Ustadeditor2011|talk]]) 10:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
*Have different accounts made the same mistakes?
*Or similar ways of phrasing things.


;I am asking you
I think there might be something in that many of the accounts also use Commons, and some also use Hindi Wikipedia. But you need to find some similarities in their edits/uploads there if you want to use that as evidence.<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 15:53, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
Learn to reply fast [[User:Ustadeditor2011|Ustadeditor2011]] ([[User talk:Ustadeditor2011|talk]]) 10:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


:{{tps}} @[[User:Ustadeditor2011|Ustadeditor2011]] Perhaps you need to learn to be patient before asking others to reply fast. — [[User:DaxServer|DaxServer]] ([[User talk:DaxServer|t]]·[[Special:Contributions/DaxServerOnMobile|m]]·[[Special:Contributions/DaxServerEverywhere|e]]·[[Special:Contributions/DaxServer|c]]) 10:02, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Toddy1|Toddy1]] I have given more evidences. Shown connection between English Wikipedia and Commons. Also I have corrected one mistake that you made. Please see. '''[[User:Shaan Sengupta|<span style="color: #FF7518;">Shaan Sengupta</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Shaan Sengupta|<i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i>]]</sup> 16:44, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
:::If you want sensible replies that link to previous talk discussions and explain policies, you are going to have to accept that it takes time to construct the replies.
::What is it that would make admins think that [https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Dibyanand02&users=Its+Guddu+Chauhan&users=Guddu+Chauhan+Official&users=Thakur+Love+Chauhan&users=Gopalkrsingh10&users=Lal+chowk+Ramchandrapur&users=Lal+chowk+Ramchandrapur+Lakhisarai&users=Atharva+Pratap+Singh+Chauhan&users=Rajesh+Chauhan87 these nine] are the same person but [https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Shaan+Sengupta&users=Toddy1&users=&startdate=20230101&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki these two] are not? This does not come across at SPI. It needs to.


::In an SPI I did yesterday I showed that the two accounts had made {{tq|1=the same error with putting an image in the infobox of an article.<sup>[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ramdas_Kathiababa&diff=prev&oldid=1173399910 Srabanta Deb] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nimbarkacharya&diff=1178081815&oldid=1175922068 Radha Krishna Nama]</sup>}} Can you find stuff like that to support your SPI?<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 18:06, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
:::Regarding a new montage - why not try creating one at [[:Talk:Hyderabad#Infobox images change with new pictures & latest features]]. Remember, montages do not have captions for individual images that comprise the montage. And it would be good if you added alt text to each image.<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 10:15, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
::::But for Bangalore there is no montage, why seperate policies for Hyderabad article. Even census data is wrong in Bangalore there is no official sources of census data in India. [[User:Ustadeditor2011|Ustadeditor2011]] ([[User talk:Ustadeditor2011|talk]]) 10:19, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


:::If you think statista is a reliable source, you need to make the case for that on the article talk page.<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 10:18, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
== Have a look ==
::::I am saying satista if not reliable should not be considered for Bangalore. There is no official data after 2011 census in Indian citites, so only 3 cities qualify as Mega cities Delhi, Mumbai & Kolkata. [[User:Ustadeditor2011|Ustadeditor2011]] ([[User talk:Ustadeditor2011|talk]]) 10:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


;Hyderabad Montage
Have a look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pandit_Deen_Dayal_Upadhyaya_Junction_%E2%80%93_Kanpur_section&diff=1178272949&oldid=1174421246 this], shouldn't we have an official name as discussed by you [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pandit_Deen_Dayal_Upadhyaya_Junction_%E2%80%93_Kanpur_section#Requested_move_1_July_2023 here]? - [[User:Fylindfotberserk|Fylindfotberserk]] ([[User talk:Fylindfotberserk|talk]]) 17:04, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
:Thanks. I have reverted the IP editor and explained in (1) the edit summary, and (2) the editor's talk page.<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 17:47, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


I have added Hyderabad montage in talk page, next tell me what to do. Give me the tool link which makes a montage of images. There is no montage in [[Bangalore]] infobox pls remove it and add montage. [[User:Ustadeditor2011|Ustadeditor2011]] ([[User talk:Ustadeditor2011|talk]]) 11:33, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
== Please help ==
:I have replied on the article talk page. If you look at the existing infobox, you can see how a montage is formatted.<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 12:43, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


;Detroit and Bangalore
@[[User:Toddy1|Toddy1]] it seems there is some issue with [[India at the 2022 Asian Games]] article. The sections in the article are open by default and it is not closing. Do you also see the same or is there a problem with me only. Every other article is correct only this seems strange. Can you help? '''[[User:Shaan Sengupta|<span style="color: #FF7518;">Shaan Sengupta</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Shaan Sengupta|<i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i>]]</sup> 16:37, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore. These are not in montage format, then why ru forcing [[Hyderabad]] article to be in montage format? can u be clear I dont understand your views. [[User:Ustadeditor2011|Ustadeditor2011]] ([[User talk:Ustadeditor2011|talk]]) 05:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
:You made a similar point on the article talk page and I have responded there. Please also read [[:WP:LISTEN]]. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 11:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

;Who are you?
who are you? what is your monopoly on wikipoly?
Stop rubbing ur personal views on south Indian articles like [[Amaravati]] and [[Hyderabad]]. The name of Amaravati is from the original Amaravathi site founded by Vasiraju stop rubbing your european tactics on articles related to AP and Telangana, we dont need ur manipulations here [[User:Ustadeditor2011|Ustadeditor2011]] ([[User talk:Ustadeditor2011|talk]]) 07:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024

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The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here.
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Hyderabad

Can you simply tell me why you are not allowing me to add updated images? Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 09:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Images

tell me directly why you are not allowing me to update the images Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 09:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

edit conflict
You are allowed to add updated images to the infobox. But they need to be as a montage, not a collection of separate images in a gallery. See Talk:Hyderabad#Infobox images change with new pictures & latest features.
And it would help if you added the alt attribute, as has been done in the existing montage. The way to add the alt attribute is | image1 = Charminar sumeet photography 3.JPG {{!}} The Charminar during the Ramzan night bazaar -- Toddy1 (talk) 10:05, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So you make a montage with updated images by me, why are you rubbing 15 year old images in the article in the name of no montage. Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 10:10, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The population crossed 10 million in bangalore and hyderabad but there is no official census after 2011. statista un reliable source even for bangalore. Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 10:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am asking you

Learn to reply fast Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 10:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @Ustadeditor2011 Perhaps you need to learn to be patient before asking others to reply fast. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 10:02, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you want sensible replies that link to previous talk discussions and explain policies, you are going to have to accept that it takes time to construct the replies.
Regarding a new montage - why not try creating one at Talk:Hyderabad#Infobox images change with new pictures & latest features. Remember, montages do not have captions for individual images that comprise the montage. And it would be good if you added alt text to each image.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:15, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But for Bangalore there is no montage, why seperate policies for Hyderabad article. Even census data is wrong in Bangalore there is no official sources of census data in India. Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 10:19, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you think statista is a reliable source, you need to make the case for that on the article talk page.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:18, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am saying satista if not reliable should not be considered for Bangalore. There is no official data after 2011 census in Indian citites, so only 3 cities qualify as Mega cities Delhi, Mumbai & Kolkata. Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 10:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hyderabad Montage

I have added Hyderabad montage in talk page, next tell me what to do. Give me the tool link which makes a montage of images. There is no montage in Bangalore infobox pls remove it and add montage. Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 11:33, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have replied on the article talk page. If you look at the existing infobox, you can see how a montage is formatted.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:43, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Detroit and Bangalore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore. These are not in montage format, then why ru forcing Hyderabad article to be in montage format? can u be clear I dont understand your views. Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 05:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You made a similar point on the article talk page and I have responded there. Please also read WP:LISTEN. -- Toddy1 (talk) 11:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Who are you?

who are you? what is your monopoly on wikipoly? Stop rubbing ur personal views on south Indian articles like Amaravati and Hyderabad. The name of Amaravati is from the original Amaravathi site founded by Vasiraju stop rubbing your european tactics on articles related to AP and Telangana, we dont need ur manipulations here Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 07:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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